First Take reacts to L.A. Times' controversial article on Kim Mulkey & LSU 

Bringing out ? Racist whites already acting on their hate... you just haven't been paying attention As a white guy I was appalled to learn that black babies have 3x mortality rate with white doctors vs black doctors. The same discrepancy does not occur with black doctors .. Google it. .. someone will say I'm pushing hate for telling the truth !!!!

Couldn't agree with you more.

Yep

Orange Man

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Wait till the game tonight gon look like civil war 2

Oh ffs she enabled her team to be classless and disrespectful and they got called out for it. Maybe hop off the victim parade for 30 seconds and learn how to take accountability for your own behavior. Nobody is talking about any other teams as “good vs evil”, and that’s not a coincidence, and it’s certainly not racism or sexism.

media? incite? NAAAWWW

4 ucla starters are black

@@Rushking20nah fr Iowa and Louisiana, and I’m from Mississippi and have felt that lsu and Iowa last year had more to do with white vs black then actually basketball, and both teams are great and loving

Bingo!!!

Her players need to tell her to address the racist part of it.

@@millionairemillennial86nah. It’s her job to do it. Black ppl shouldn’t have to point out racism to white ppl. She’s not dumb.

Because y’all are obsessed with race?

Like Unc pointed out, they may as well have gone full-on Don Imus. They crossed the threshold, just used more “flowery” language. Fkn disgusting

I Googled it without safe search and dirty debutantes is "XXXXXX" rated, if you get my meaning.

My wife thought I was googling spank material when I googled it smh

Yeah, I got adult film results too.

Just googled it. Jesus Christ, people need to chill.

It led to phub

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Bbbbbb Bingo!!!!

Fr 😂 and LA Times publishing it is WILD 😂

The Editor(s) believed that nonsense obviously

Welk the " good" in this case were mostly black just like the " evil" was so how is this racist?

@@jusbertmeza4424its la times, what yall expect lmao

@@soda8736 but It’s still a crazy title for a sports page

That's the thing that's so crazy. You can dislike a team without being sexist and racist, but apparently that was too much to ask for for the dude who wrote this initial column. Sheesh.

I am genuinely curious, what problems does Kim Mulkey have? I think Shannon only said he was not a fan of hers. From my personal perspective the only thing people do not like about her is her lack of filter. I don't see that as a problem but her personality, which is OK for anyone to dislike or not be a fan of. Thanks, and good luck tonight!

GOD said white men is devil people need just see that as fact attacking young women its pure evil

​@@NicholasNewbilland ima fan of kim from a bball perspective but outside of that idk it'd shaky brother

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Of course, the mainstream press continues its agenda to get blacks out of basketball. You hit the black nail on the black head .

It was racist at worst and the paper was ready for whatever back lash was to come. They wanted the publicity and was ready to fight the supposed anti-woke agenda.

You said what everyone has been avoiding.

What game did you watch? Don't you know a black girl when you see one? Betts is biracial. Rice is biracial. The shooting guard is black. UCLA 3, LSU 4 starting lineup. UCLA has a Hispanic guard, Jaquez.

She is homophobic

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Yeah the problem with that is to win a slander lawsuit you need to prove what was said was wrong. All the LA Times would need to do is show a highlight reel of LSU players taunting their opponents and the judge would throw the case out.

Mulkey is trash and recruits players of the same mentality. Mulkey is one of the most disgusting people, as a person, to ever coach. Anybody that plays for her now knowing her history, it says a lot about them & nothing good. She is pure scum.

I would!

They'd have to get in line

Facts

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So the only victims are the black female players here ?😂😂

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS SURPRISING?!? SOME WHITES really think we are below them. They chained us and fought laws that were attempted to be put in place to even the playing field!! UNTIL THEIR MINDS/VIEWS OF US CHANGE, it is what it is!! SIDEBAR: HOW MANY CENTURIES HAS IT BEEN?!?

@@MiguelSosa-oo6ww No. However the statement was made because of the strong presence of the black players on the team.

LSU players definitely played up the antics to earn that villain label. It happens all the time in college basketball, strong team with players leaning into the antics gets hate. The most well known are usually the white guy on Duke teams, Christian Laettner, JJ Redick, Grayson Allen, etc. Those guys played it up and were the villains.

@@limitedbom2206 They adopted that stance only after it was clear that the main focus was NOT on them & all predicated upon the lower seed in Iowa & Caitlyn Clark. Don’t blame them for feeling disrespected if or when their team was better all season long w/less media coverage. Merely pointing out the media creates all of this-Case & Point. Media is/was out of line for this article here

@@limitedbom2206 They played up to it no more than Clark herself did. Clark's antics are numerous and recorded for anybody to see. That said, Clark herself was never the problem. She's a great player and competitor and she never had a problem w/ LSU, as she herself said. Her fans are another story...

​@@keenannorris3309 I agree, Caitlin did the same thing. I think people let her slide because she was a major underdog going up against a powerhouse team. I don't remember an underdog showboating getting hate in the past so it doesn't surprise me. At least, that's my guess.

@@ShadomanG It's not surprising though, all the media attention went to the girl carrying her teams offense game after game. Then that iowa team ran into a brick wall in LSU. But that definitely pushed that label more in my opinion. When the clearly superior team smacks the underdog down and then starts antagonizing them/the fans, it is a one way ticket to villain status. But I'm definitely fine with LSU talking their stuff. By all means, if you're feeling disrespected, you should go out and speak on it. You know how good you are, go dominate.

Thats what i mean. Put the name out there

@@s.k.o.e.2191Ben Bolch beat writer for ucla. As an alumn and huge supporter of our basketball program I’m disgusted and appalled. Let’s get this clown fired. I can take over the column 💯✍🏽

Is it the writer alone? I think the editor owes some explanation and is definitely culpable.

​@user-jh5wv3oo1l sure, but letting it pass by your desk is not the same level of awful as spending your time writing it up. What's going on in that creeps mind?

I mean the writer wrote it, but it went through mamy levels saying it was okay im more mad at the editors and the paper in general.

Exactly

@@chrismalik1579shut up

It was a lot better before Obama became President. And now it's the democrats and Joe Biden that love their racial division.

As long as people are using racism and sexism as an excuse to not be held accountable for their actions, we’ll still have a long way to go

Stop whining. What are you going to do about it?

Angel Reese threatened the first lady last year, was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team this past fall, and taunted the UCLA bench in her last game. Apparently, she hasn't learned her lesson. The refs need to keep an eye on her aggressive behavior and call the Iowa game correctly.

They have been targets and it’s a shame! She’s a great coach and will go to all lengths to protect her girls! Y’all are all wrong about Angel Reese! She’s a great leader of this team! STOP IT! The only difference between CC and AR is color! STOP IT!

Respect Angel Reese after she taunted Caitlyn Clark who basically played them 1v5? That was my first time being introduced to her so she’s never had my respect

@@Zenigundam LMAOOOOOOO

@@aimeesimoneaux6197 the only difference? There are differences and they are far more indicative than something as meaningless as color.

They are adults. Not young girls 😂 goodness.

😂😂😂😂 st to the hub

@@billyyank5807not true and if it was, why would it be justified then?

​@@billyyank5807so makes it better 🤔

​@@billyyank5807so that's ok?

No,He should have used the analogy of "Striking" the statement. After it was already said.

😞Are we really to believe they didn’t know that when they said it? 🙄 They play so dumb when called out. Imagine running everything and also saying “we didn’t know.” Words are your literal business. 👌

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💯 truth. Disheartening to refer to woman of color in this manner.

If it was ever posted but deleted it's still there. Search it up on the way back machine. It's internet archives

I totally agree

I’m trying to figure out how it’s sexist…. Guess racist would have been too much like right😂

lovemycity - the same way affirmative action is mainly for whíte women. Kim can throw herself in this if it’s sexism but she won’t stand there and take the bullets for calling out racísts

It's not racist. It was uncalled for to say but not racist. That slang term is meant for any female.

Thank you

That article came out before the game

@@tonth1383That article was trying to derail the LSU Team😢

@@richardmillee7116Mulkey is trash and recruits players of the same mentality. Mulkey is one of the most disgusting people, as a person, to ever coach. Anybody that plays for her now knowing her history, it says a lot about them & nothing good. She is pure scum.

Yes now that was trash journalism but the Washington post was not

USC or UCLA?

Talking about Iowa not UCLA .

Just because she said something is racist all you are on her side, so predictable

@@soda8736 F word you stay off my feed go find somebody else feed to comment your negative thoughts and opinion .... 🗣️🗣️

​​@@soda8736 Just because you wrote something don't mean we can call you a dumb idiot...

@@soda8736she didn’t even say racist she said sexist

Stephen a smith give me uncle tom vibes said if usa today said this dont see structure these demon monsters white men la times put this out how lsu be villian they won national championship 😂😂😂Guy said White people create stuff in there on perspective look all around world study history white men killed everybody destroyed cultures created perspective how want world see them as Good😂😂😂reality they Devil😂

I think Canes were motivated by that and Fighting Irish was an anti-Catholic epitaph the school turned on its head.

That also happened like 40 years ago. It was definitely wrong then, but it was a different time.

@@Grant112988 ya but the name convicts vs Catholics wasn’t incorrect Miami literally had a bunch of dudes that had been in jail playing against notre dame (catholic school)

Them Catholices aint all good ether ​@@cali1427

Same style of writing……….. ain’t nothing changed bruh

We should've stayed separated💯

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Who’s racist?

Anything California disagree with they immediately call sexist, racist, etc...

But apparently you can act with absolutely no class or respect and when you get called out you can just use racism and sexism as an excuse

I agree the articles choice of wording was horrible, but the good vs evil thing isn't racist. That's happened all the time in the past for college basketball. Past duke teams with Christian Laettner, JJ Redick, Grayson Allen, the fab 5 Michigan team, that gross dude with the long hair on Gonzaga in the 2000s, these were all college basketball "Villains". It's usually the overall best team that plays into the antics to antagonize other teams/crowds gets the villain label. It's nothing new, people usually root against the powerhouse teams.

Debutante has never once in the history of mankind been a racial insult. Using racism as an excuse for acting with no dignity is literally the opposite of Martin Luther King Jr’s dream. He wanted his children to be judged by the content of their character but people like you want to use the color of their skin as a defense to have no character.

@@erikdayne5429well said. I may steal that last line.

Agreed but will never happen, to many racist people for that to occur

​@@limitedbom2206 Thanks for ignoring the CONTEXT...you can't have clearly racist statements, along with good vs evil, in the same article, and claim its not connected

Exactly the thought I had. It’s shameful.

1) It's not defamatory. Do people believe the LSU girls are literally "evil" and literally "dirty debutantes" because of the article this guy wrote? (and thus they are going to suffer actual damages because of it; people won't hire them, they'll get disqualified, they'll suffer so much emotionally they won't be able to step onto the court because they know people believe that they are literally "evil" and "dirty debutantes" because of what this dude wrote) lol Besides in the US you have the First Amendment which protects a lot of speech and this was clearly a free comment opinion column by a writer (i.e. his not reporting facts, he's giving his opinion on a sporting event). 2) This dude is a homer writer (LA Times) writing for the home team (UCLA). If it was (like Don Imus) a neutral party writing for the Denver Post (or as SAS rightfully says, USA Today) than there's more of a case that there was ill intent. The "good versus evil" was clearly hyperbolic, over the top, tongue and cheek. The ONLY real issue here is the "dirty debutante" line (given what comes up on the Google Search). That crossed a line and should've never been used.

libel and slander usually is when you make up an allegation or an untruthful statement as fact.

I was thinking the same thing.

How do you know have you met her

@@bartonfussell6360 her own words on a number of subjects to include her former players say how difficult she is outside of basketball.

lol them people bouta storm the comments

Soft generation the bad boys were called worse but no one mentioned racist. But you can't stop professional victim mentality.

@@rickpersaud7016so just because no one mentioned racism means that there wasn’t racist remarks said to the bad boys? Tell me you are white without saying you are white.

Tell me you a professional victim without being a victim. You must be black.

@@rickpersaud7016I’m sure your mom is also your aunt

You might not think it’s that serious but considering how much hatred and negativity LSU has received since winning that championship last year (Angel Reese even received vile death threats) it actually is serious. Remember, yes it’s sports but these girls are actually human beings. They’re human beings who are just trying to enjoy their lives, and be good at what they do.

The aritcle obvs wasn't serious. It was an article written by a homer from LA writing about the UCLA team. The only legit thing is the "dirty debutantes" line was in poor taste (given what comes up when you search it). These guys on "First Take" say worse about male pro athletes all the time because sports commentary is over the top, tongue in cheek lol

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Haha. Right??? It’s girls basketball.

Do all aricles have to be cool?

@@soda8736 not saying that at all

This kind of media can break the spirit

they lost...

@@gambino48against Iowa. This article was before the UCLA vs LSU game Saturday

They lost

you mean Ed Powers lol

Yes, I blew many a load in my youth to this cinematic masterpiece

it's a series lol

@JakeBayCity You a wild dude😭😭😭😭😭😭

Nah real men act with respect. Little boys chirp and taunt when they win.

So you’re ok,with the name calling?

@@bennyhill1900 we talk junk in sports all the time. What’s wrong with it, the fact girls doing it now. Womens hoops is boring without it. They need that extra umph

@@erikdayne5429 if a man chooses to be humble, that’s on him. If a man chooses to talk then that’s on him. Some people channel that competitiveness and some people let that energy out. Either way it’s still a man, but real men love it either way

That’s the history of Sports in the U.S.

she a debased rodeo clown, embarassing herself and the program

The gayness must stop! Support the women of LSU.

The "Google the phrase" was genius. I wonder if she came up with that herself or LSU has a crack research team lol That was brilliant PR wise

That was exact the point. First person I’ve seen that realized this.

That may be the reason they published it. I had a feeling LA Times did this in retaliation for the Washington Post call out.

There wasn’t anything bad in the Washington Post article. You obviously didn’t read it

The UCLA coach has already apologized for retweeting that article saying she didn’t even read it until after retweeting it. Once she read it, she deleted the tweet.

@@gothard5 If you believe she retweeting an article about her team without reading it then I have a solid gold diamond studded bridge to the moon that I will sell you at a good price.

​@@gothard5U believe that b.s.?

​@@gothard5bs..the title of the article alone she was wrong

Nope! However, I believe the media wrote that and not ND

All of Louisiana.

No. It’s bc they play dirty and are classless.

@@nickcothran3307Play dirty? Classless? Explain yourself.

Black is evil 🖕🏻🧑🏿‍🦱

@@MrHello-nx4xs watch the game tonite. See how Iowa handles it when they beat lsu. Then watch how lsu handled it when they beat Iowa last year. ..maybe it’s just angel Reese who plays dirty , so may not be fair to label whole team.

​@@nickcothran3307nobody on lsu plays dirty, clearly you're the one who don't watch these games

Yea I see how blacks kill white people every day

hug your mom incel

Really? How many instances can you site of men playing in women sports, at the major sport entities that are covered by ESPN, collegiate or professional?

Idm what it was it was wrong

Agreed a lot of fake moral outrage and pearl clutching. You actually see people who were former columnists like Skip and Stephen A have a more nuanced approached (because they've been columnists covering a specific cities team like this homer journo clearly was). SAS is right; if it was a neutral writer from a different city or a national columnists then there'd be an issue. But hyperbolic, over the top, tongue and cheek sports commentary? That's what shows like "First Take" and "Undisputed" are lol They've said worse about male athletes. The only thing here is the "dity debutantes" line (given what comes up on a Google search).

I agree. Add Iowa's coach in there, too.

I think the women are trying to act like men, with the trash talking and stutting and possing. But LSU especially Reese does too much. If people were honest they could admit that , but instead they try to downplay or say she does the same as Clark. Thats a lie showe clark following another player around for 20 seconds doing some gesture while talking trash

South Carolina will Destroy both Iowa and LSU

Why?😮

Yea this situation is WILD

The "good versus evil" comment was obviously hyperbolic and is typical in male sports commentary (especially since this dude was a homer writing for his hometown team). The "dirty debutants" line is where the issue is.

Media coverage can impact NIL monies.

Ikr! Why they got Shannon in the shadows 😬

Interesting. This is the same thing those white people used to say to Bill Russel and Lou Alcindor (KAJ)

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Out. Of. Pocket 😂

You wrong for that😂😂😂.... I will say she is the best looking bald headed woman I've seen..

I'm laughing at the LSU team. It ain't 2020. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The whole world laughing at them now.

You should go to the neighborhood with the blm . I forgot blm don't matter then????

The truth stings but I guess you a professional victim mentality. Blm only matters if non blacks are involved.

lol no

You people call anyone who challenges you or criticizes what you say woke.

Yep it's a tactic to avoid truth

Paragraph of BS

Be quiet clown we know your a racist just come out and say it 😂

@@GriMInc.bruh just Google ‘dirty debutantes’ before going off next time 🙄

Didn't one of y'all "superior" guys marry a woman with 2 heads? 😂😂

Scrappy, blue collar work ethic? 😂😂😂😂 LSU doesn’t have work ethic? lol Just say you’re rooting for the white player over the black players lol

Oh shut up 😂😂

Are you a POC in America?