Fish Oil Is Causing Heart Disease? | Educational Video | Biolayne 

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Oh, mega fishy...

Fish puns now? Oh cod...

Are you still alive?

Fish oil also goes rancid about 3 months after opening the bottle. At which point it may or may not be less healthy than not drinking it at all. It's easy to tell though because it tastes absolutely awful, vs fresh fish oil which only tastes bad.

Yeah but large RCTs using highly purified EPA have also showed a small but statistically significant increase in AFIB. I believe the STRENGTH trial was ended early because of it. So the risk increase is small but it is there.

Only diet proven to prevent and reverse heart disease is a low fat, whole food, plant based diet.

Because Layne Norton said so ? lol

@@BradSchoenfailed 😐

​@@BradSchoenfailed no.. because humans were eating fish for millions of years and if there was anything wrong with fish we would have been long gone by extinction.

That's a pretty quick shortcut you're taking here. People taking fish oil don't necessarily take it based on their LDL (or any other specific risk factor). You could reasonably argue the exact opposite that people taking fish oil (or supplementing with anything at all) are actually healthier at baseline with lower risk of CVD because they're more health conscious, more likely to exercise, eat a better diet and consume other supplements. I agree that the big issue with all these nutrition and supplementation studies is that there are just too many factors to control for, not to mention that "controlling" for a factor through data analysis after the fact is a very poor control with questionable biological relevance, even if it's the best we can do for something as complex as nutrition. Not only that, but the relative risk are ultimately quite small and almost certainly clinically irrelevant (5-15% increased or decreased risk of something that's very rare in the first place and has very good outcomes even when it happens (you usually don't die from attrial fibrilation). After all, this very same study shows there's zero impact on death.

Fish oil reduces TRG and increases HDL, and increases LDL a little.

​@childofaether8733 I find atrial fibrillation to be an odd endpoint to choose in the first place, considering the primary benefits of fish oils are purported to be related to inflammation and atherosclerosis. My understanding is that a-fib is either generally benign and transient as you mentioned (and related to electrolyte/neuro/hormonal issues) or caused hy structural heart disease, which is a very weak proxy for atherosclerosis.

​​@@childofaether8733 furthermore to group differences: those "health conscious" people taking fish oils are more likely to fuck their electrolytes after a marathon, or exercise at very high cardiac outputs, lift very heavy, and/or take steroids: all of which are risk factors for types of structural heart disease and a-fib (to lay people reading this please note this doesn't contextualize all the other benefits of intense exercise - nothing in life has zero risk and please don't drastically alter your lifestyle based off the comment section)

Is this the study funded by Gates? If so keep your eyes wide open.

What services to you provide, and what was your advice? Thank you.

@@Joseph1NJ Work in Longevity / Concierge Medicine. Just had to basically had to reassure people that their specific program with fish oil was fine, not to over react.

Fish contains mercury though

@@seamussullivan2218 Thank you for the response.

I always worry about this, i take an algae omega 3 supplement.. i figure less polution ​@@leonardodavinci7425

I was going to make this exact comment! 😃

YES RUNNING MARATHONS OR ANYTHING OVER 2 MILES , WILL STRESS THE HEART OUT

Yes suck down that rancid oil, your body will thank you

Oh man, u know nothing

In a nutshell, coronary artery disease (what you are likely referring to as vascular disease) can overtime result in structural remodeling of heart tissue. There are a variety of reasons why this may occur (ischemic scar tissue, dilated atria, etc.), but subsequent to these maladaptive changes, electrical conduction abnormalities such as atrial fibrillation frequently arise. Important to note that it is not always the cause of afib, but a common source as people age. Atrial fibrillation is caused by failure of conduction/disorganized activity by pacemaker cells in the sinoatrial node, leading to “quivering” of the atria, rather than contraction. So to answer your question more succinctly: the two conditions may be, but are not always, related, as you can have afib w/o CAD and vice versa.

Which brand do you take?

I don’t remember the exact number but it was a lot of the most well known brands that they tested the product was rancid. It was a crazy high percentage of products. Very disturbing.

@@ATFstein absolutely. Unregulated supplements. It’s a big problem generally.

Yes pack in that mercury and microplastics! Yum!

​@@Zoe.TheBody360Xtend life has the world best fish oil distilled on molecular levels on site fresh no rancidy toxic heavy metals and bacteria 🦠🧫 Third party tested and in house too . For 20 years I was taking it

Either way there's still heavy metals and high Vitamin A in seafood. But it's your body so eat what you choose

The atoms involved there is potassium, sodium and calsium with magnesium. So the omega 3(DPA/EPA ALA must decrease or increase this, or create an unballance. Hmm hard to belive! I don't think so, but they have to make topic's. Use your own head first! Just a tip

​@@Kjuken69I'm at risk of Heart disease I can't make up my mind I've been taking it for years Do you think I should keep taking it Thanking you.

keep it simple stu! and runny eggs. eat these everyday, first and foremost, and you win the Darwin Award for staying alive and.....wait for it..... for reproducing for a longer period of time. now, who's your daddy? Almost forgot. And Himalayan salt. I just discovered how many micro nutrients is in that stuff. it's a one a day vitamin almost!

I eat my sardines too, but not too often due to the urid acid implications and all the diseases associated with high urid acid levels.

Just don't eat too many at one sitting. Sardines have arsenic in them.

@@uuzoo really? never heard that before

Eggs and sardines everyday, your gas will smell awesome

Shit I don't see the link? Am I dumb?

If you are already taking Xarelto, then you are essentially receiving treatment for atrial fibrillation. Since the main thing that we worry about with any degree of a fib is thrombosis. I would say it is safe to continue taking fish oil in your case, but I don’t know exactly what you were taking so definitely consult with your doctor. Disclaimer: I am a physician, but I am not your physician 😂

Yes, but I'm assuming that wasn't covered in the study. Try Dr. Rhonda Patrick for that info (or google scholar).

Just make sure the oil in the capsule isn't rancid. You'll need to open each capsule before taking it to make sure

@@Brandon-dg9lu certainly possible. A portion of afib is “paroxysmal” meaning that it occurs infrequently and a fib does not always cause symptoms like palpitations so many people can have a low burden of afib activity and not realize it.

Except the "study" has no way of knowing the dosage and consistency, nor EPA/DHA content of the "fish oil" used over 12 years. It's worthless. Both the positives and negatives are meaningless.

The lifelong risk of atrial fibrillation is 20-40% depending on the lifestyle. I don't see a 10% increase in this risk as a game changer given all the other benefits of EPA/DHA supplementation. And the atrial fibrillation risk can be mitigated via other lifestyle choices.

@@EVanDoren that is well put and with most Americans there is some room to maneuver to improve risk of atrial fibrillation otherwise. For me, though, I simply keep the dose to where fairly confident it would still help with dementia risk production if committed to taking over a lifetime, which I amstill remaining below the threshold of notable a trial fibrillation risk which seems to be above the 1000 mg EPA/DHA threshold

​@@DrTomMDWhat about 1000mg of omega 3 a day which some supplements come in? Should one worry? Or is it best to have below 1000mg? I take a premium excellent brand with 700mg DHA and 300mg EPA... Now I'm concerned about this study that confuses scientists even 😆

@@theancientsancients1769 see my original comment. It addressed your question re 1000mg

@@theancientsancients1769 obviously my recommendation has to be that you should discuss this with your license primary care provider. Now, if you’re asking if it was me, would I stop at 1000 mg? No, I would not. I would not go above 1000 mg either, though. And I tend to skip my supplementfor a couple days I have good fatty fish like trout, sardines or salmon. But that’s just me :-)

Fair point about the ratio, though why would you see a protective effect at more advanced stages of the disease. As in, if higher O6/O3 ratio can take you to the disease, why would it then protect you from it.

From what I’ve seen, most people that don’t take ω3 supplement and don’t regularly eat fish, don’t have good ω6/ω3 ratio. So…

@@CharlieFader yeah but didn't they account for this variable in the study? So if what you observed was generally true, people in this study would have consumed loads of O3 to nullify a protective effect of O6 supplementation, but only until the first stages of the disease appeared, and then stop the O3 to a point where a protective effect of O6 can now be observed.

@@PepitoSbezzeguti that’s not what I meant. I was responding to the other comment, that was proposing that maybe healthy people already have a healthy ratio, before supplementing with ω3s. At least when it comes to the ω3 index, it seems that most people that are in the healthy range (of said index) do supplement or eat fish on a regular basis.

@@PepitoSbezzeguti What I have seen more recently was that the whole ratio is irrelevant, and what actually was relevant was getting enough Omega-3 in absolute terms. People that had poor ratio, also had poor absolute intake of Omega-3 so people mistakenly though that the ratio was somehow meaningless when it wasn't.

Or people that think they are at higher risk because of life style or their family genetics simply are more eager to use fish oil compared to people that have no heart disease in their family and live otherwise healthy. Would explain the correlation, it would simply be reverse causality where higher heart disease risk causes higher fish oil consumption when the people self try to compensate for that higher perceived risk.

@@cyberfunk3793Eh I would imagine more likely a healthy user effect of just about any supplement compared to people thinking they can band aid their health with supplements. There’s a lot of information out there telling people it doesn’t work like that, and the unhealthy are probably happy to save money.

I'm sceptical of any food in window displays, that area can get way hotter than recommended storage temperature.

My thought exactly! People with high LDL, high triglycerides, smokers, or diabetic maybe more likely to take fish oil at baseline.