Fisker Ocean: New Problems, New Software, Bankruptcy? 

Would you take the plunge on a Fisker Ocean? Let us know in the comments!

Nice to know that with the update the key fob is now up to 1998 levels of technology

Fisker has now tested (twice) the notion that vehicles are becoming so commodified that design could be the primary differentiator. This example is actually produced on contract by Magna if I'm not mistaken. But the reviews demonstrate that automaking is still complex enough that success requires more than just great design and a bunch of Tier One suppliers doing your engineering.

BTW in newer keyless cars the car going into park when it thinks you got out of the seat is a fantastic safety feature. There are documented cases of people jumping out of keyless cars with it still in drive and running the outcome of which is someone being killed. Also leaning over to pick something up, you should put it into park as it is very easy for a car to roll forward or back while you are leaning over and have your foot off the brake with vehicle in drive or reverse. Might seem trivial but that pedestrian you just rolled into might not agree.

Agreed, I am rooting for Fisker. However, if they don't make it, they should make the software available as open source and give it to the community and it will soon be the coolest vehicle out there!

Edmunds review is the best, most honest

This is why I only buy used cars. Some people ignore depreciation, thinking they'll drive the car for years. All it takes a wreck or a natural disaster for that car to get totaled. Then you absorb the depreciation all at once. Learned that when my brand-new car got flooded after one year of ownership 24 years ago. Haven't bought new since. And especially with EVs, you get sweet deals by waiting. A two-year old Polestar 2 can be had for well under 30K. I bought an I-Pace for 38,000. It was 85,000 new.

I saw one on the road the other day here in Denver and fell in love. I started watching videos on it this morning, guess I've fallen out of love. :(

Lol, CyberTruck just got recalled for one major safety issue. Let's be honest, no automaker today is releasing a foolproof product. More bells and whistles the more things go wrong.

Headline: Edmunds takes a bath in an Ocean

Thanks for sharing

These bad boys get to 10k I'm buying it

What's the issue with holding the brake pedal down when stopped, most cars require that to not roll on any kind of incline? Is the issue due to the quiet nature of the Ocean when stopped, and some drivers perhaps forget the vehicle is not in Park? Our gasoline Kia Soul can be rather quiet, such that sometimes it might seem not running, but we haven't had issue letting it roll away.

Fisker is my dream car I love it and I hope one day I can afford it🙏

I want one, but I can't really find any which the price has actually come down to levels mentioned in youtube videos

I visited Fisker back in January to test drive the Ocean. Sure enough, they didn't have one available the day I stopped in and I had to come back a week later to drive it. The car drove fine but there were a few issues I had with the car. No ventilated seats. No message seats. No autonomous driving... Nothing deal breaking, but I was only there to drive it - I wasn't interested in buying one. Sure enough, they entered a downward spiral soon thereafter and now their cars are on fire sale.

I have a Fisker Ocean Extreme and I love it. It has some minor issues (which everyone is aware of by now) but key fob responsiveness is the only one that’s annoying for me. However, it’s not a deal breaker and I still enjoy driving it around. I just hope the company survives so they can make improvements and continue to service their cars. Yes, I know it’s not looking good right now but we need more alternatives to Tesla.

My Golf does the parking brake thing too. Sometimes it still surprises me, but overall it's good I guess.

I’d buy this still love the design and company

Imo new and current car manufacturers have looked at Tesla and thought what can we copy and what can we change/make better (worse). Like not having 1 pedal driving?

I don't know why I'm reminded of Edmund Honda, every time I see a video of his.

"There is no way we could have seen this coming". You have GOT to be kidding me. This is the third time that some version of Fisker has gone bankrupt and been dissolved.

I had an order in for a Fisker Ocean and a reservation for a Fisker PEAR. Last fall I canceled both. But I still wanted a small SUV EV, and after extensive research, I decided on either the Kia Niro EV or Hyundai Kona EV. Hyundai sweetened the deal with a $7,500 discount good for the Kona, and I purchased one in February. I'm very happy with the purchase, and have the satisfaction knowing it is from a financially sound company with a strong dealer and service network.

The song that starts at 8:30 is incredibly familiar...would anyone be able to link me to it? Also this vid was top notch! I've honestly been rooting for Fisker and really hope they can get it all figured out.

The hill hold complaint sounds like a super first world issue lol😂. I mean I understand it's to be expected with the competition with other EVs, but hearing it did make me go "mmm....o-kay". Same with the parking break being turned on when leaving the seat, but I understand that it'll be cool if it detects your weight and eyes on the road you can just go. There's still gonna be ICE cars available for awhile , so I hope this type of stuff doesn't create bad safety driving practices.

Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I am really concerned about fisker and their future in the electric autos because I sat in the pear and the Alaskan truck in LA in January

Thoughts and prayers to Fisker owners.

So if you lift your rear end off of the Drivers seat - It goes into park, NICE 😁 I played it safe with a NISSAN LEAF 🌿🌿 But at their current price in the UK it's a bargain as long as it works ok, tyres, brake pads/discs and general maintenance should be fine "off the shelf" parts - definitely tempting although the insurance cost looks very high 🤔

in the meanwhile, why not just make a thorough regular review about performance, charging, range, driving dynamics, etc.?

You could put it in neutral and use it as a trailer.

So what now when you need things fixed!?

don't worry when company comes back with all the bugs fixed price of Oceans will too

Besides the key issue, i failed to see any major issues, what am i missing. I can think of several major brands thinking 'hold my beer'.... It still unacceptable to charge fees for features that aren't there. I wonder what the reception would had been if they just sold it without the assistive driving crap and similar add-ons. Starting simple wasn't an option i guess. Teslas shouldn't be the benchmark.

So I had to write a comment just to say, I am going to watch your video again as I was too busy typing to catch everything. I liked that you were open, honest and pointed out other EV's have teething problems. The big T brought out cars that were poorly built had lots of build issues, then software issues, then lots of promises that are still not here, and those promises were a few years ago already. Yes they get praise after praise, huh? Fisker is fixing issues very quickly it appears and if you put this in perspective. No one is complaining about build quality that I have heard. You basically got a BMW with crappy software, wait, is BMW software any better?, lol. But that can and is being fixed very quickly in fact. I remember buying a brand new Pontiac in 1986 and it went back to the dealer 12 times in the first 3 months to fix an electronic fault it had been delivered to us with. So when folks complain about this and that, what experience are they comparing to? Sorry didn't' mean to start a thread about GM or even GM EV's. Lol.

Yeah I want Fisker to be successful I’d love to own one!!

Where's Edmunds Land Cruiser review? I've seen KBB and MotorTrend's review already

I disagree that this level of depreciation was not foreseeable. More than three months ago the financial state of Fisker was very obvious

Tesla had lots of problems when it launched its first car. Fisker does not have a rabid fan base like Teala, that is anxious to forgive and defend all issues or problems. And Tesla's still do not have F.S.D.

This is why I went with a Mach-E. I'd rather have a car company go techy than have a tech company try to build a car. I just hope the solar roof winds up on other manufacturer's cars as that'd be a neat feature when you can't park for charging consistently.

No matter what Fisker does to improve the cars they will never be able to sell them in any significant quantities in the future. This car is just ruined whether it deserves it or not.

At what point is it good for a full gutting & manual LS Camaro driveline swap? $8k?

oMG yes, if this car is $10000, I would love to buy it.

Get your firesale Ocean for three fiddy. The property tax on your garage floor space is worth more than the vehicle.

That happens when a Rasberri PI is the operating system! 😅😂

If the company goes under will the car lose features? So much of this car is OTA features

I remember playing Minecraft in Alpha it wasnt even close to being completed but now its one of the biggest games out there. I get that a game is not a car but in the end it still comes down to optimization of software.

Imo it looks great Besides I’ve seen much worse EVs. I’d gamble on the fisker over those much worse EVs But over a Tesla or Hyundai Kia? Probably not

It seems if they just focused on a basic commuter car first they wouldnt have all these problems. Most of the issues seem to be all the tech and luxury aspects.

That sucks I really Like that suv

Daym Henrik.

It’s a nice car

Key fob performance (4:07). Haha, sad and funny at the same time when even basic features of a car don't work properly.

They spent so much time making it sound and look special that they completely dropped the ball on its basics. Worry about getting the basics down and THEN worry about features and gee-whiz stuff.

They should have done more quality control testing before selling their vehicles to the public. If they were more reliable from the start, they would have a lot more people wanting to buy. No one wants to buy a new vehicle that has a bunch of known problems and if they have reputation for bad customer service that spells disaster for the company.

$21k is a little ridiculous, 2012 karmas are going for more than that and they've been unsupported for 12 years

Loving my Ocean every day! I look forward to driving it after work daily.

An EV dealer is selling new Oceans for less than a 4yr old I-pace, e-tron SUV and Model Ys. It tells you something

48k down the ocean.

Fisker in 2024: We are bringing a huge major update to the 2.0 version. You press the key fob ONCE (sometimes TWICE) to unlock your car.

I’m just trying to figure out how this guy (Henrik Fisker) has now applied his name to 2 separate electric vehicle endeavors, taken hundreds of millions of dollars from the US government, failed massively at least once (and astoundingly is on his way to another failure in such a short time), and has gotten away with it…

I think you guys don't get the fact that making bad reviews of the Fisker is GETTING OLD. CAN'T YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE....???? 😂 MOVING ON BRUH!!!!!

Firstly why was this car allowed to go on sale if half of the car didn't work, second who in their right mind would have put money down for a vehicle that is half busted, Fiskar should be made to purchase all the vehicles back at full price from the public who bought them, this will teach any further companies a lesson that try to do the same thing.

I was sitting in a FOE with ADAS, ACC, Alexa, Torque Vectoring, Vehicle to Vehicle-Loading, One Pedal Drive, New Solar Sky visualisation. It is all close to get released but the company needs a bit more time.

If someone offers you an Ocean for €20,000 sounds good for exclusivity

Sad thing is u bought an ev from start up.

Fisker is a designer. A good one at that. But he’s no engineer. Bankruptcy is on its way

Now you can afford to buy a second on as a parts car.

I would guess that negotiations are currently ongoing with one or more potential buyers with deep pockets who can give Fisker the time it needs to get the Ocean market ready. It’s a nice looking, well built car that could be viable if its software and distribution issues can be solved, but all the bad publicity will certainly make that a lot harder.

I love Fisker!

You definitely could have foreseen this. I don’t know why anyone would buy a vehicle from a startup, with no proven business model, and a leader with track record of failed car companies, that is that objectively bad upon delivery. If a company releases a bad product, that can be “fixed with software,” it means they are pretty desperate for the income from that product. Otherwise, why would you treat your customers like beta testers? That’s a terrible user experience that is not going to give your users the warm and fuzzies about your brand.

48 k loss MENTAL ,very very painful

RIP Fisker

Fisker will be Push Like Game Stop... And goooo💯🌝

Technological nightmare 😭. Sucks considering how good it looks 🥴

I saw one of these in parking lot of my company yesterday. The wheels looked dirty and tired, I am sure the person had bought it used thinking it was cheap and he/she could afford it. I made sure to park my Tacoma far from it. It does look nice though.

They make great Golf Carts

I have no pity for new EV buyers. All the information is out there and they still bought it. Thank you all beta testers

I'll consider ev when price is below 15k.

Did u buy it or lease it. If the latter you didn’t lose that much..give it back in 2 yrs. If you guys bought it outright… why? Why would Edmunds buy a car. Keep 2-3 years for long term report and move to next car.

That's just a drop in the ocean.

I've been watching these vids and seeing people saying they're actively trying to get one (unsuccessfully) because of the reduced prices. And I'm thinking this is seriously nuts. Even without the bugs and unreliability send uncertainty of the parts but if anything at all happens to it you're screwed. You have a literal paperweight of a car.

Haven't you heard? It's all MKBHD's fault.

why would you buy not properly working ev in the first place?! I mean you kinda asked for it

I'll give you 5k for it as it is!

When you buy a kickstarter/startup car.... I wouldn't touch a Fisker, Karma, Rivian, Lucid etc, I'll stick with established brands.

you win some, you lose some with the 2.0 update

If you financed.. just stop paying on the loan... Take the money ... Save it ..or invest... Buy a new car with cash in a few years... Put the fisker in storage for the next 30 years... It should be a collectors item by then .. sell it for 100k...

BTW people who need hill hold have never driven a manual shift car. Not to mention many automatics will roll back if the hill is steep enough. Lazy. ;) Yes I know it's nice feature that probably all new cars should have. Just don't jump in an old car, you will die! My 90 Z doesn't even have airbags. The hill hold is a lever just behind the shifter. Some people call it a parking brake, and have no idea how to use it, either to park, or on a hill! Good demo of the feature though my friend. I like you reviewing style BTW. It's honest, straight up and clear.

Nope 14,000 now or best offer at the lot.

Could Chrysler Group buy Fisker corporation..? I mean sure they could but why would they..? Or maybe the Fiat group..? Someone, anyone..?

Fisker will survive

Fisker's customer support center in India told me they can't call me back. I thought to myself, if they're not capable of calling back their customers, even in sales phase, I don't want to have to do anything with company.

Do you wake up guys ? Don’t loose your time with such videos. Fisker will be saved at your next video 😂

ALL EV’s have depreciated massively in the past 6-12 months and insurance is through the roof on all EV’s too. Tesla just laid off 14k employees.. EV’s won’t completely go away, they’ll stick around as rich people’s weekend cars for fun.

So the lifetime on that solar roof has created two dollars of electric electricity. This is why pretty much nobody has put solar on roofs. It’s a complete and absolute waste of time and money.

I think Fisker's travails could permanently end the sort of irrational exuberance we're seeing with EV startups. Who is going to want to gamble on an unestablished brand, when your investment could go to zero within month? Next up, Lucid.

Poor sap.😂

I’m willing to bet my bottom dollars if Tesla can make full self driving a reality. All those old vehicles are gonna jump and value overnight and then everybody’s gonna forget about how Tesla drop prices.

Edmunds also loves the CT so take what they say with a grain of salt. I own it and have none of these issues.

I will never buy a Fisker vehicle. My boss has one and left stranded at the airport with the battery losing all its power after being gone for a week on vacation. Needed a Fisker tech to come over since when hooking up to power it wouldn’t charge.