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Fitting & Testing Stiffer Anti-Roll Bars Nissan 350Z (Whiteline Sway Bars) 

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How to fit an anti-roll bar.
This week we fit stiffer anti-roll bars to the Z and the test if that makes her any quicker around the track.
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Комментарии : 98   
@sheldonm3535
@sheldonm3535 4 года назад
Sway bars is such a underrated mod. Did a solid big rear bar for my MK7 GTi what a difference! Just replaced the end links and bar bushings on my daily. No more clunking.
@tylertwotoms9640
@tylertwotoms9640 5 лет назад
Good educational video on the sway bar setups for the Z, Great episode. Can't wait to see future updates on a Plenum spacer, cold air intake, and possibly a tune ;).
@tonyburnett347
@tonyburnett347 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video....I'm new to the Z family, trying to learn much as I can, for weight,tires, and suspension is the golden rule of the game!!
@scarabrae
@scarabrae 5 лет назад
Good to see you back
@rollei35mm
@rollei35mm 5 лет назад
I’ve been looking forward to this, just changed out the fluids on my z yesterday
@dougarnold2121
@dougarnold2121 4 года назад
Great content great straight to point information as always. Love the videos.😀
@chrisbaxter5041
@chrisbaxter5041 5 лет назад
Glad your back A long time coming
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks Chris. Been mega busy but it’s nice to be back.
@jackspencer5676
@jackspencer5676 4 года назад
What you proved here is that you need to have the front and rear bars in balance with each other clearly. If the handling balances and there's minimal body roll, the lowest settings on both seem the most sensible!
@MyBlueZed
@MyBlueZed 5 лет назад
Good job! I put Hotchkiss bars and MOOG drop links on my 2003 Track. I have them both on the stiffest settings; I love how it’s flatter when cornering but I suspect it would be too lively if I went to the track. 😳 The Hotchkiss bars have an extra hole in each. Removing the rear bar is like a puzzle. If you get it angled just right there is no need to remove the exhaust nor brace. 😊
@petewilliams4289
@petewilliams4289 5 лет назад
Really enjoying the channel, great content but given I like the 350Z and M3 E92's this channel was a great find. Looking forward to more videos and thanks for dedicating the time to making the videos, great content.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Many thanks Pete for taking the time to write such a kind comment.
@wakko0hakko
@wakko0hakko 4 года назад
Great shout out to TIYG! Love that place. My SL is in storage there and need to get up to do a bit of work on it.
@Ssengel69
@Ssengel69 5 лет назад
fascinating on how you will tackle with all the rust! Excellent video !!!
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate!
@daveyofyeshua
@daveyofyeshua 5 лет назад
Yes Neil, fantastic video with great info 👍
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate
@Nighthawk745
@Nighthawk745 5 лет назад
Your 350z series is so awesome! It has given me so much inspiration for prepping my 350z for the track! I think your next mod should be an exhaust to bring out the wonderful note of the V6! I highly recommend doing a 'back box delete', I found a welder that did it for me for £100 and it makes the car much louder and makes it sound 100 times better, I don't know why but it makes it 'feel' like you're accelerating faster even though it has minimal effect on acceleration. The stock exhaust does absolutely no justice to the V6.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate. Will check it out!
@jp8950
@jp8950 5 лет назад
I put the same set up, “white line” on my 08 roadster. I noticed the difference, and keep it on the softer setting up front, and middle in the rear. I’m happy with the steering, but need coilovers for the bounce in the car. It gets a little whooshy. Also, at very high speed, I notice the front gets light. Thinking about a front end chin spoiler. Great video.
@s.a.i.v
@s.a.i.v 5 лет назад
Ive been waiting to see a video like this.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate.
@ianmoorcroft3689
@ianmoorcroft3689 5 лет назад
Great video 👍
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
I see your car needs to be introduced to Rustoleum "REFORMER" ...YOU WILL LIKE IT ! Usually replacing worn Sports Car parts makes it handle ,Smartly Again. I mean that factory did a good job....its a Sports Car Really increasing track times, tires and shocks would have helped more. Sway bars are like the end of the chain....almost like if all else fails We have anti sway bars....! Most modern cars , but this is a SPORTS CAR...have good anti sway bars. I would say if you had just replaced worn components , you would have more money in your pocket for some savings towards adjustable shocks. But this was and is a good lesson. Great Video ! On last think , lots of enthusiasts by adjustable components ( more money ) set things close to factory And thats that. Truely unless your car is a track car...so many could save some money well a good chunk of change.... A car like a Z Has performance in its design . Its hard to improve over the wide range of conditions the factory engineered into the car. We all know shocks and tires are most effective ways to improve from the factory/marketing compromises .
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks for the tip!
@beowolf9991
@beowolf9991 5 лет назад
One time i was on track and my rear sway bar link came off and i didnt noticed untill i spun on every corner i thought the weather is not good and the track temperature is some how not good ... But later i found out during some normal inspection that rear sway bar link was not attached .. thats how i know how much difference it made on my car
@ChristianBiggins
@ChristianBiggins 3 года назад
Great vid, thanks! That rust is nuts! Assuming from snow and salt? None of that in Sydney, just sea air! 😭
@a1b3do
@a1b3do 5 лет назад
8:12 love that mid-race goatee swipe
@DaveSouthPhoto
@DaveSouthPhoto 5 лет назад
Nice vid again mate. Are you at Japfest this year with the club?
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate. Would like to but may not get time. We'll see.
@johnnyperez3051
@johnnyperez3051 5 лет назад
Thanks making these Z vids dude.
@yazctr
@yazctr 5 лет назад
put the front on softest setting and rear on hardest setting ;) U will hav a very different car ;)
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
A drift machine!
@darkblueturbo
@darkblueturbo 5 лет назад
This is a good point. I had this white line kit on my old Impreza and wasn’t happy with the extra understeer from the front ARB. In the end I took it off - back to standard - and left the rear on. It was perfect.
@JimBob_1975
@JimBob_1975 5 лет назад
With the exception of the exhaust bolts I've had no problems getting the minimally rusted bolts out of my Boxster 😉 while fitting uprated roll bars.
@blackflagpirate3444
@blackflagpirate3444 5 лет назад
Good move with the anti roll bars buddy.Nice work Guys ! How would this apply to a Quattro 🤔
@davidbates247
@davidbates247 5 лет назад
He's consistent if nothing else
@pippinosborne2372
@pippinosborne2372 5 лет назад
great video, thanks. Pip
@therushden
@therushden 5 лет назад
Nice to see you back. Do you miss the m3?
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate. Yeah, I miss the comfort and performance but it cost a lot to run.
@SmartRacer
@SmartRacer 4 года назад
Great, I will do the same to my roadster
@gleesmj
@gleesmj 3 года назад
Great video. My whiteline kit just arrived this morning so I'm looking forward to fitting it Sounds like soft front and middle setting in the rear would be ok for daily driving?
@Paul-mq5yn
@Paul-mq5yn 3 года назад
go full hard setting on both if the cars only used on the street
@oliverb.7860
@oliverb.7860 5 лет назад
Oh. Having promoted anti-roll bars for your 350Z so much, I am a little ashamed it did not change your car that much for the better as they did mine. I hope you are not too disappointed. Maybe when changing more components of the suspension, the ability to adjust the stiffness to cope with excessive under or oversteer will come in handy. Especially when meeting unexpected weather conditions like heavy rain that adjustable rear sway bar might come in handy. Do you drive with ESP on or off? Is it possible to see when the ESP is active because its dashboard light is blinking? It would be interesting to see whether the ESP works less with better anti roll bars. The better my old M3s overall set up got, the less work the ESP had to do.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Yeah, did think they’d make more difference but glad I swapped them anyway. I turn the ESP off when in track as it cuts in too much. Yeah, I think you are right about changing more components.
@Jake-im2lv
@Jake-im2lv 5 лет назад
The stock bars look quite beefy to begin with.. I put a fat rear swaybar on my Celica when I had it, really transformed the handling and made it turn in really nicely. Made it a bit oversteery especially if you were heavy on the brakes around a corner
@Ji9303
@Ji9303 5 лет назад
Goes to show that the stock sway bars are pretty decent for the Z. But if you are an enthusiast then of course you're going to upgrade. I put Hotchkiss on my Z
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
I agree the improvement in other areas like shocks ( external adjustable ones) and or tires would have contributed to faster lap times better then Sway bars. Sway bars are almost ...the result of tires and shocks --- then the sway bars come into play at the end like a last ditch effort.. Fix. I can only imagine, the state of the shocks , knowing the state of the stock sway bar links and mounts.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Indeed. How did you find the Hitchkiss ones?
@schluesselbundrd
@schluesselbundrd 5 лет назад
Well, oversteer did work fine 😉😄😉 ,that was funny Interesting video, I would have thought there would be more difference. Did you have the feeling of losing a bit of traction when accelerating out of a corner with the stiffer rear setting? Because that's something what can happen, but of course depends on how much difference in stiffness there is. Great video, I like that you also show the difficulties that can happen when doing such work (rusty bolts). Greetings from Bavaria
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Thanks mate. No didn’t have that feeling with the rear but we only had time to test the stiffer rear with stiffer front. Glad to see you liked the “real world” issues with rusty bolts!
@rogermanvell4693
@rogermanvell4693 5 лет назад
those standard bars are quite big only really needed drop links and bushes.
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
Agree the nissan engineers know its baby, is a little chub !
@pushhrodd01
@pushhrodd01 4 года назад
Hello! I’m planning on doing this too and have the exact model and color Z as you! Mine is a bit rusty as well and I’m scared I’ll break the bolts too. How will I go about getting them out of it happens?
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 4 года назад
Use a lot of penetrating fluid on the bolts first. Then use a ratchet by hand and not an impact gun to gently loosen it. Good luck!
@GT-OD
@GT-OD 2 года назад
What is the con of driving with your sway bars on the stiffest settings especially on the road? If there is any.
@davidkasserra184
@davidkasserra184 5 лет назад
So, this is a little off topic, but what are your thoughts on the @007 Z4 Coupe? Looking at one and I am very interested.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
2007 Z4? Nice car. Drive one a few years ago and liked it. The fast ones are still more expensive than the Z as far as I remember? Probably has less rust!
@jnagime
@jnagime 5 лет назад
I think the front Oem sway bars are fine just the back is weak....work on the weight of the car,exhaust,battery,seats and spare tire .
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
Always always ALWAYS work on the weight....such cheap improvements...I completely AGREE.
@gh-cu1jh
@gh-cu1jh 5 лет назад
Yes, typically front sway bars are ok but manufactures tend to cheap out in the back sway bar
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
@@gh-cu1jh its not a cheap out...in the way your thinking. In their mind , its to still, make the car, understeer....which works for 87 % of "wanabe Performance Drivers " They figure real drivers will up grade to Real Performance Equipment , all on their own. Its another reason High Performance cars are so expensive......to keep them out of the hands of "average drivers" that simply can not Drive Competent.
@gh-cu1jh
@gh-cu1jh 5 лет назад
@@MindDezign I never thought of it that way that's interesting and thanks for the info
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
@@gh-cu1jh your welcome...Ive been driving sports cars for a long time...Ive studied sports cars from every angle.
@Sierra747
@Sierra747 5 лет назад
Do you just tap thread into the old snapped stub? Did you try an easy out stub remover first? Just interested as it’s always nice to know a few tips on removing snapped bolts.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
The snapped bolt was captive so we tapped into it.
@Sierra747
@Sierra747 5 лет назад
Road and Race oh right. Captive nuts are a pain if they snap as you can’t always get to the back to stop them spinning.
@d.bray1
@d.bray1 3 года назад
Dang, was really hoping to see it on a setting other than the softest setting.
@davidrichards7722
@davidrichards7722 5 лет назад
Thanks for this ,what is the difference in diameter in the roll bars. because visually there doesn't seem a lot in it.Thanks
@oliverb.7860
@oliverb.7860 5 лет назад
On my car, the Whiteline anti-roll bars where not thicker but made from solid steel while the original anti-roll bars where tubes. I assume being massive also made them stiffer. And heavier.
@davidrichards7722
@davidrichards7722 5 лет назад
@@oliverb.7860 Thanks for this
@filip000
@filip000 2 года назад
@@oliverb.7860 bars being solid instead of hollow doesn't make a difference. Hollow can be just as sturdy. Usually the key difference is having additional bolt holes where you can bring the mounting point closer to the bar itself - thereby giving it different leverage and better stiffness.
@aacar4095
@aacar4095 Год назад
Some suspension mods may make the car feel "better", while not really increase measured performance. This is such an example. I got stiffer sways for my Subie and I liked the feel, but that didn't necessarily translate into better lap times.
@nene6569
@nene6569 8 месяцев назад
The better the “feel” the more confident one can drive pushing the limits which could possibly result in better lap times
@Donkyblocks
@Donkyblocks 5 лет назад
Thinking about getting a Z, I do 12000 miles a year though so kinda scared about the running costs (Petrol & if something goes wrong). Nice videos :)
@MindDezign
@MindDezign 5 лет назад
Motorbooks , get a buyers guide. It will tell you all the pit falls thru the years. Money very well spent. It will make you an expert. You have youtube to show you how to do anything on your car. And the internet to buy parts as low as you can buy..... The only thing to fear , is fear itself. Life is to short....get one enjoy it get it out of your system. But first Get a "buyers guide"
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
It’s a fairly cheap car to buy now but you will need to probably fix a few things (see my other vids!). Only 26 mpg though so expensive in fuel.
@eugenetsen579
@eugenetsen579 5 месяцев назад
Wait... So stiffer rear arb reduce understeer? 🤔🤔
@GTR24
@GTR24 7 месяцев назад
This thing has a tan colored hand brake??
@archangele1
@archangele1 4 года назад
Hmmmmmm. My 04 Z has virtually no sway or roll in hard turns with the stock parts. Your car looks to be in a bit worse shape then mine though. So, an upgrade of the tired bushings would probably be in order. My bar, bushings and struts are in excellent like new condition. It is funny because my car has 127K miles on it and looks like new in comparison. I guess that because I live in Florida USA I don't have the weather issues you all have in the UK.
@Aeneas137
@Aeneas137 2 года назад
it's such a shame seeing all of that rust underneath. I know it can't be helped in some areas like the rust belt of the u.s.. I bought a Z in California and it still looks like new underneath. which I know you're going to say shut up and go away but I'm sympathetic... the lap times aren't improving because you haven't upgraded the rest of the suspension yet.
@stubbk3
@stubbk3 5 лет назад
so you trailored it to the garage or drove with no front anti roll bar ? rusty nissan is a factory option
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
I put the front bar back on but with just 3 out of the 4 bolts on each bracket and nursed it to Oxford.
@hamkaya
@hamkaya 2 года назад
I am quite surprise with the rust condition of the car judging by the age of the car
@lilpettyxbigdiesel9387
@lilpettyxbigdiesel9387 4 года назад
You've probably answered this before, but what ramps are those? They're very flash.
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 4 года назад
Race Ranps mate 👍🏻
@alexhawes6690
@alexhawes6690 5 лет назад
I thought my Alfa was crusty underneath,your Z seems a tad worse
@hdboy8
@hdboy8 5 лет назад
Nice vid , but omg so much rust 😣
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 5 лет назад
what was the time without the ARBs? lol
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 5 лет назад
thx
@BrunoSantos-jw3er
@BrunoSantos-jw3er 5 лет назад
Damn the suspension arms are so corroded they seem closely to snap :/
@Inmysightstarget
@Inmysightstarget 3 года назад
Never seen a 350z rust like that ... Looks like it's drives in salt all day
@mikeherring9639
@mikeherring9639 3 месяца назад
Lol pointy, yeah fatter front bar goes a long way into making turn in quicker 😅
@paolopanetta10011
@paolopanetta10011 5 лет назад
You guys should do videos a little more often, feels like ages between your video posts...
@mantazini
@mantazini 5 лет назад
3 neg front camber , front toe out, 2 neg rear camber , slightly toe In on the rear ... Thank me later .
@heilong79
@heilong79 5 лет назад
You guys in the UK really need to petition your government to stop salting the roads, it is absolutely destroying your cars, In Ireland our cars are much less rusty and if we see a rusty car 9 times out of 10 it is a UK import.
@chrisbaxter5041
@chrisbaxter5041 5 лет назад
She's crying out for a tasty exhaust ???
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Would like to but it’s expensive. We’ll see...
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