@@anb2456because of vested interests,have a direct conflict of interest because of sponsorship/partnership. It’s more than true,at this point common knowledge.
Not really... 2019: 7th, 2020: copied Mercedes, 2021: 7th, 2022: 7th, 2023: 5th, 2024 so far: 5th. They failed in season upgrades last year and benefitted from Merc/Ferrari dropping the ball to start, but otherwise still trending forward. Also a lot of their new facilities are yet to be meaningfully leveraged; F1 cars don't pop into existence come preseason testing, they're mostly developed the prior year. Their 2025 car is well into development right now and they still don't have the new wind tunnel/simulator.
@tHebUm18 You clearly explained this. I might add that ever since AM got called to the carpet by the FIA for a front "flexi wing", they have never bounced back from that. A flexi front wing is worth three tenths, sometimes more. Also, McLaren's Lead Aerodynamicist was Neweys understudy for years. Hence McLarens amazing strides. Meanwhile Aston has been using Mercedes' wind tunnel and suffered many of the same correlation issus over the same time period.
If Newey really joins this team to lead their technical side with andy and honda working on the powertrain…then they really could take a decent step forward in 2026, and alonso may get his last chance for a win.
@@ChuyR.alonso didn’t randomly come back to f1 to win ‘a race’. He didn’t just keep racing untill 42 at the benchmark level at the highest echelons of motorsport to just “compete” or win “a race”. He’s comeback to throw himself in a title fight atleast,he takes no prisoners,or leaves none.
@@ChuyR.if alonso had been in the mclaren this season hed be leading the drivers championship by well over 50 points, w mclaren far ahead & clear of redbull.he’d have won 6 races at half mark atleast. He’s 43 now, and many people in the paddock will bet the farm on him having the same performance if not better if he was 46. No one has come close to make more out of what the car he drove was capable of and no one ever will. He isn’t unlike vettel or schumacher or lewis to retire due to being slow or driven hard by his teammate.
More likely to buy Boeing, or Blue Horizons, SpaceX is way to successful for ANYONE to be able to buy... not that's its for sale anyway. But $110 million can buy one person one E-ride ticket on a private SpaceX mission, so there's that.
@@qua_lap I get the feeling nobody that bashes this channel for one reason (Because "British Media") or another (Aramco money) is even remotely capable of thinking on this level.
Aston Martin is the NBA Miami Heat of racing. When the Heat acquired LeBron James, with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosch, they basically had an All-Star team with LeBron and Wade declaring "we just not gonna win one championship, two, three, four...." implying they will win multiple. Aston Martin acquired some All-Stars from rivals, including Dan Fallows from Red Bull, Eric Blandin from Mercedes, Andy Cowell from Mercedes, Enrico Cardile from Ferrari, among others and waiting in the wing is design guru Newey. Does Aston Martin have too many Chefs in the kitchen and not enough cooks?
Who exactly posts these sorts of comments? I see way more "He needs to get rid of Lance" posts then those and frankly, they don't exist whenever I look around.
That should be dead after Mike Krack's comments this season. They pretty much admitted the team is built for and around Lance. So anything the team says about considering other options can no longer be trusted now imo.
The problem is: Lawrence Stroll is only in this to make Lance a World Champion. That is almost certainly an impossibility unless all other teams bring literal tractors to the race track in 2026. So what is Lawrence going to do when reality sets in? And how long will this farce keep going? Can he really get 1000 highly paid employees to give their best while he refuses to hire the best drivers to make the most of what his factory turns out?
As far as I know Lawrence doesn’t own majority in the team anymore. In the consortiums eyes I think he’s not doing bad enough to justify kicking him. I agree that he should explore other options in 2026. He could do well in WEC. I have no doubt there will be too many cooks in the kitchen for Lawrence to be able to convince anyone when Honda arrive.
The Strolls really undermine the credibility of the whole project but somehow in spite of this, the team doesn't seem to struggle to attract high profile personnel and partners.
@@professorzoom1497 He signs drivers that Lance can lose to without losing face because they are former world champions. He wouldn't risk Lance getting upstaged by anything less.
Thing is with Toyota, that was typical Corporation ignorance (Down to the stereotypical closeminded "Our way or no way" nonsense, which has never gone horribly wrong....)
If only Stroll's son would put in the same effort his father is doing for the team. Does he feel no shame at all when he can see what his dad is doing day in and day out for the team?
The summary of all this is that in general Aston Martin's potential is there and it is one of the strongest on the grid today. The problem is that to date they have not found an effective way to unleash all that incredible potential they have. Hopefully, when they have all the new generation factories in operation, they will make a big jump. Because, as I have already said, the potential is there and is clearly visible.
The Race: *10 minutes of well-reasoned, if slightly kind commentary on Aston Martin Racing* F1 fans: sTrOlL iS tHe PrObLeM Y'all wanna take a sec and watch the vid before making the call? 'Cause IDK if anyone told you this, but F1 is about far more than just the monkeys pulling paddles. No, Stroll isn't exactly God-tier, but that wasn't what they said. What they SAID was "Aston's got bigger problems".
The race's take isn't that interesting or well-reasoned TBH. Of course AMR has other problems, but the easily solvable problem is the monkey pulling the paddles and that monkey's father. They employ a man named Mike Krack, which you could say is a problem just based on how little attention I pay after you say his name
@@jebidiahcarlyon3543 I'm gonna have to question your reasoning on how someone's name alone can be a problem. I've seen plenty of funny names in Sport that still ended up successful.
Stroll is a massive part of the problem, though. Only a Canadian would suggest otherwise! Stroll has the most underserving seat in F1 next to Latifi, Mazepin and Sargant. And no, his F3 championship bought by his dad back then by buying the team marred in controversy doesn't really make the buck for an F1 seat - skipping F2 entirely. 292 points over 157 races, not one single win and highest third finish. His failure to acknowledge his own mistakes and outright poor awareness levels leading to crashes repeatedly over several years (Safety Car crash this year, swerving into drivers passing him, for example). You could give him the fastest car by a country mile, he's not cutting the first driver material some strange fans of him seem to think he's worthy of. Even AM's Mike Krack explicitly said the team was built around Stroll. This mentality is what will cost them when they have WDC winners racing for them and being used as a thought box over prioritising and maximising their carry of points for the team.
lance stroll's podium and pole don't mean anything : 15 cars retired for his podium and the pole was due to the session being cancelled because of rain. He's by far the worst driver on the field, and given his 7 years experience that makes him even worse than sargeant. Any driver physically assaulting his coach would be fired in the minute, same goes for his "performance". Without even comparing him to alonso.
@@heaveniwnl You're lying though so how are they facts? Now, would you like a tissue? If you can share documented proof of your bs then please send it🤣🤣🤣
- He has 3 podiums not 1, (none of which required 15 DNF’s) - The session wasn’t cancelled he simply out drove everyone on a very slippery/greasy track. - Not even close to “by far the worst driver” considering how Perez is this year. - Shoving his trainer was a very bad look so not much else to say. - Since China he’s been pretty close to or beating Alonso relative to the cars pace. Nothing wrong with not liking the guy, (Lance makes it easy at times) but at least be honest.
I know everyone says "stroll is only in it for his son" but thats good. A guy with mountains of money is investing a fortune into a sport which could do with a new challenger. Would you rather have a new team come in with limited money and scrap for the bottom?
I respect every driver who drives these ridiculous and amazing cars/beasts whether it's Lance, Logan or anyone because it's not easy to do so. But the fact is that their are better drivers who are f2 champions or reserve drivers who deserve a chance. This doesn't mean these guys should retire and end their racing careers. Their are races and teams out their who would love to have an f1 experienced driver behind the wheel and these guys might even become champions there. So it's not that Stroll is a bad driver, it's just that in the same car there are drivers who could generate good results. If Honda says they want Yuki at Aston, then would they dip Lance or a 2 time world champion?
I'm struggling to understand the AMR structure. You've got a bunch of people who report to a load of 'leaders' when really it's Krack or Lawrence calling all the shots. I don't think Lawrence Stroll is the right person to turn this from midfielders into contenders - he's a fashion businessman, not a racer. You can't take what worked in his realm into F1, they're very different demands. Not to mention the fact that just because you hire big names on the technical team doesn't mean they'll all gel. It feels like a team led by cynicism and nepotism - both Lawrence and Lance need to leave if Aston are to be taken seriously. I hope Adrian Newey says no to whatever money is thrown at him.
Why is there never any mention of the sub-optimal correlation between wind tunnel and actual performance that teams using the old Toyota wind tunnel have seen? Mercedes had the same issue and also use that wind tunnel don't they?
Disagree on Lance Stroll. He's a perfectly fine second driver for a team like this. I feel he always get overly criticized because he's there coming from privilege, not merit; but that's an emotional argument. If he gets similar results as other second drivers - and he does - it doesn't matter if he's privileged or not.
If 2026 will be Aston's 6th season then in 2023, in their 3rd season they achieved their goal of being a front-runner (They were 2nd for the first half)
If Aston start winning with BIG difference between the other teams we know Flavio Briatore are in the background with his clever cheats to make Aston Martin perform better.
I don't get all the hate for Lance. He's a decent (not great=Botas, or lousy=Sangent) # two driver. He's pretty equal to what the team is capable of, and I believe if the car was better, Lance would be too.
It doesnt matter what Aston Martin does or throws at the car ... while they have Lance in a seat , its not going anywhere ... they rely far too much on his input and because of that the car will never be good enough. As for Newey , there is no doubt in his design brilliance ... its clear from this years Red Bull , he isnt infallible and just having him on the team designing the car again doesnt mean they will automatically be fast. Red Bull are struggling this year with a car that is no where near as good as last years and Newey doesnt seem to be able to fix his design woes
@@rsf1kirito483 it’s a money pit to him… y would he want to? Lance is the ONLY reason he is all in on them… If lance left today, he would sell tomorrow
They are using licensed footage from teams' filming days, what they cannot show is footage from the races. Sometimes they use the F1 game to simulate that. 😄
Being The Race, I’m surprised they’re not trying to somehow blame it on Alonso. I’m glad more people are recognizing laziness is Lance’s main problem. It’s also a damning one.
I mean other then Lawrence, who is really on Lance's side? That and the race has never been exactly making Lance look like a genius, just far more subtle (The contract mentions are usually funniest examples because its the least obvious way of saying "Yeah, he's not going nowhere")
@@RACECAR The contract announcements are so cringe. It’s like having a press release where your parents confirm you will continue to receive your allowance.
So they came out the blocks flying in 2023, and they didnt have then their new wind tunnel or fancy buildings finished, so we cant use that excuse why they dropped off, so surely its a development issue. The basic car was there, they stuffed up the development pathway and went backwards.
Aston really went from overachieving with the small amount of resources they had to underachieving with the same resources as the big teams.. get the old force India squad together
i am still mad at Honda for leaving F1, and then coming back only to deliver engines for Aston Martin, it´s sad that the LEGENDATY Fernando Alonso is "trapped" in that team with a spoiled brat and his dad.
If Jos bullies Max into signing to AM for 26 The Daddy Stroll would drop Alonso in a heartbeat! There is noway in heck he would drop his boy because the project is all about Lance (unless Max signs then it'll be all about Max!)
They'll never be taken seriously or be able to be a genuine competitor until they get rid of Stroll and have 2 real drivers, doesn't matter how much money you plow in you can't win a championship when one of your drivers is just dead weight as Perez is trying his hardest to prove (and he's significantly better than Stroll).
No actually. He signed wdcs and he actually knows what he is doing. He is most likely going to get newey. He already got Honda. Lawrence stroll is actually competent and makes you wonder how his son is related to him apart from blood
i wish lance would take f1 more seriously because when he’s good he’s good and i think he has a lot more potential if he just tried harder. so he comes across as arrogant and uninterested.
The Race, the channel of F1 pit wall speculation and gossip, but wants to let you know they *think* there are misconceptions about a billion-dollar funded F1 team with a $230M (USD) state-of-the-art wind tunnel facility failing. Aramco obviously pay _very_ well.
You didn't press home the point of AM's clown of a number 2 driver. Nepotism rules and is the only reason Lawrence Stroll bought AM. Lawrence Stroll seems to think he can 'bull' his way into F1 and automatically win a championship. Ain't going to happen.
The number 2 drivers is irrelevant. Redbull had Webber and Perez. Mercedes had Bottas. Ferrari had Barrichello. None of those drivers are capable of winning the title even with a dominant car. Stroll doesn’t deserve a WDC seat but he deserves a seat in F1. His on track results are better than Hulkenberg.
Thank you. Where have these people been? Lance has some talent, but he's not an F1 level driver. Its not even debatable, he's a nepo baby and daddy won't let him fail
Wow Andy cowell is back 😐 quite literally the most successful engine guru, BMW most powerful engine, best V10 and than V8 and 2014 V6. Andy is bigger than Adrian
I suspect those transplants are there for the big payday. I doubt Lawrence will inspire some organic effort to make a championship team. Also, does anyone buy an Aston Martin because of Lance?
@Ciridan Ferrari and McLaren have won races,got podiums and have been/are title contenders since he left. Renault is French so they are a mess no matter what
To be fair, they said "contenders" and not "winners". McLaren were in the hunt during the 2010-2012 seasons, and Ferrari had a title shot in 2017 and 2018. You can argue that Alonso would have gotten more out of those cars than the drivers who actually drove them at those times and potentially pushed the likes of Red Bull and Merc a lot harder. Even Renault - as Lotus - had a regular podium-finishing car in 2012/2013 that won 2x races which was a huge improvement on their post-Alonso era performance
@@richardm5664lmao no. Alonso only almost won 2010 and 2012 because he got lucky with reliability issues for other drivers. Not because he was better. He made as many or more mistakes. He lost 2007 in the best car to his rookie teammate and to a Ferrari driver in a slower car with more reliability issues. The Alonso delusions need to stop. McLaren and Ferrari probably wouldn’t have even been capable of developing a fast car with how toxic he was. He’s the primary reason why Honda left McLaren.
Aston Martin limiting factor is Fernando Alonso and lance Stroll, Fernando keep saying this was his best weekend like he always does even when he is 3 tenths slower than lance stroll in Austria after lance made a last corner mistake. Fernando does zero development work as usual like his alpine and McLaren days which mean they have to rely on daddy Stroll for feedback
Pretending that you can compare Lance's driving to Alonso's is the real problem with AMR. Stop lying to yourself, if Lance is ever faster than Fernando, its because Lance demanded that it appear that way. Lance's only real competition left when Nikita Mazepin was banned. I'd even take Logan Sergeant over Stroll if they had equal machinery
