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Fix It Again, Tony! (FIAT No-Crank w/Keith: Super Saturday Special) 

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After Super Saturday, Keith DeFazio of ‪@NewLevelAuto‬ joins me for a mobile diag before heading home.
It's a beached baby whale 2012 Fiat 500 "MultiAir" that one day decided not to start.
After getting towed to two different shops, now it doesn't even CRANK!!
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@GroundedDiagnostics
@GroundedDiagnostics Год назад
nice to see Keith out in the field again. miss your videos has it really been 2 years.
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 Год назад
Glad to see the 2 amigos working together. Boy, boy Keith does have lots of toy scanners!
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 Год назад
@@John-wz3iu Must be real nice!
@bertblue9683
@bertblue9683 Год назад
I've been watching you over a year now and truly impressed with your skills and still don't imagine too many techs doing it to this level. You're setting the new standard.
@atikovi1
@atikovi1 Год назад
On any Multiair engine that's been sitting more than a few weeks, you will have to crank it a good 60 seconds at a time (in 15 second increments to save the starter and battery) in order to pump up the valve train with oil and get the valves to function. That's why it sounded like no compression when you first cranked it.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Год назад
"Multierror engine" sounds more fitting..
@thebiggerman6975
@thebiggerman6975 Год назад
Why do they even bother with crap like that,just another pita seems to me
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Год назад
@@thebiggerman6975 because it’s a genius system that gives amazing amounts of valve control to the ECU. Huge performance and economy for a 1.4.
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 Год назад
@@froggy0162 More stuff to break...I think that's what you meant to say ;)
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Год назад
@@adamtrombino106 Not really. An extra set of solenoids, but one less camshaft and no dephasers. Probably a lower part count than a standard modern 16 valve head.
@charleshenshaw9099
@charleshenshaw9099 Год назад
It's great to see you and Keith out fixing autos.
@JBlake-moon-shdo
@JBlake-moon-shdo Год назад
Keith you have been sorely missed working like this. I really hope you take up a little weekend side hobby of doing cars. At any rate great seeing you again.
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon Год назад
Really enjoyed this TWO-PRONGED ATTACK by you and Keith. What I just witnessed was TWO giant technicians working together ON THE SAME LEVEL. Doesn't get any better than this.
@sblagg527
@sblagg527 Год назад
How could you comprehend anything with them constantly talking over each other? Reminded me of those god awful garage repair shop shows on Velocity
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon Год назад
@@sblagg527527 Sorry, I didn't see it that way. Yes, there were ideas and suggestions flying here and there - but it was totally understandable. I had no difficulty in following the "flow" of ideas and possible solutions. Doing the work they do requires a bit of "mental multitasking." Yes, they were continually introducing different test equipment - it worked well, IMHO. They were constantly asking each other: "Are we looking for a power or a ground" - should that bias voltage be that elevated," and on and on. Reminded me when I was working aircraft Avionics problems on large airplanes. Several techs with SEVERAL binders of wiring diagrams discussing this and that. Yes, it was "busy" then also. But this free flow of ideas is what allowed the problem to be solved. Thanks for your comments.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Год назад
Good to see Keith out in the field getting his hands dirty again. The way you and Eric O. have waxed poetic about his amazing diag skills over the years makes me think this is where he really wants to be
@TheOriginalDaveJ
@TheOriginalDaveJ Год назад
Ivan, you just can't help yourself can you? I thought Keith was doing this job? I hope he's still speaking to you 🤣
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Год назад
Keith has a VERY good command of his automotive knowledge. When you started to operate the starter the first thing that came to mind was the engine has no compression for whatever reason. (Jumped time, valve train problem?) Immediately, Keith says the Multi-Air system is causing that and it sounds like a good engine. IIRC Charles Chips were made in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Great video!
@jeremyah78
@jeremyah78 Год назад
My thought about Keith too! My first impression of that roll over was, “oooh! That ain’t good!” And then Keith pipes in with the knowledge!
@tbelding
@tbelding Год назад
In Houston, we used to have Charles Chips, where they delivered to your house. HUGE metal cans of potato chips. My folks still have one of the cans at home. (It's from the 70's)
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Год назад
@@tbelding I still have our metal can from the '70's. I buy Charles Chips at Cracker Barrel in bags and dump them in the can. I have a co-worker that drove a Charles Chips truck back-in-the-day and had him taste them. He said they tasted the same. I think they are made in New Jersey now.
@tbelding
@tbelding Год назад
@@lvsqcsl I'll have to check a local Cracker Barrel and see if they sell them down here in the Houston area. Thanks for the info!
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Год назад
@@tbelding They have a website, you can order them online. I wouldn't recommend it, though because they get damaged. I got some once that was nothing but dust and crumbs.
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 Год назад
Nice diagnosis. I'll admit I was worried when you sent power to the starter and the motor sounded like it was freewheeling, then Keith explained why, makes sense. I think Keith is getting the "itch" to start vehicle diagnosing in the field again.
@electrolineservicegreece8267
Thanks Ivan an Keith. 5 volt ref ? 99% you check it off camera. Plz Kieth we would like to see you more often. Wish you the best guyz !!!
@jamesmachalik9924
@jamesmachalik9924 Год назад
Always a pleasure to watch two masters at work..
@toddw.9845
@toddw.9845 Год назад
Nice to see Keith again on a video , what sets him apart from most is he never gets caught up in the brand of the car aka chevy , ford, fiat thing he just follows the facts and diagnoses the issue.
@woppini
@woppini Год назад
Thanks for the crank portion, thought for sure blown timing chain. Never would have thought it was ECM controlling the valves. Learn something new every day
@johnwhan7288
@johnwhan7288 Год назад
So cool watching 2 of the best playing around. Unstoppable
@robertdavis6708
@robertdavis6708 Год назад
I use to watch Keit working the Staten Island repair shops. When he showed up with his Dunkin Donut coffee, he acted like, ho hum, just another day to discover troubles that other could not. And man was he swift. He wasn't afraid to tear into wiring harnesses, thinking it was on a Easter egg hunt. But I'm glad he got out of that SH and found a great school for his kid. Nice job on this video fellas.
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Год назад
Nice to see Keith out and about. Good luck with that ECM.
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 Год назад
Wow, seeing you two together, awesome!!
@stevepalmer4072
@stevepalmer4072 Год назад
Great work Ivan. Brilliant to see Keith out with you.
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto Год назад
Nice to see everybody's friend, Keith. I am sure the two of you had a blast working on a few cars together.
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks Год назад
Keith collab videos are always epic. You guys sure saved Tony at the dealership a lot of diagnostic time.
@Malcarper
@Malcarper Год назад
Great video...... Ivan and Keith, trying to outsmart each other, with their tech knowledge and scan tools.
@EDP1
@EDP1 Год назад
thats an amazing service you give to people .
@gfccbgjxvhd874
@gfccbgjxvhd874 Год назад
Salut, Les gars vous former un duo de choc. Je suis content 😁 de vous voir ensemble, pour résoudre une panne compliqué "mais pas pour vous" 😂. J'espère vous revoir très bientôt pour un nouveau challenge 👍
@powayimports4175
@powayimports4175 Год назад
Never knew about the intake valves causing no compression sound. That’s so helpful to know!! Ty!
@willemstreutgers1154
@willemstreutgers1154 Год назад
As always love the way Ivan and "king"Keith are thinking.
@jerryking2418
@jerryking2418 Год назад
Great job guys. Thanks for sharing.
@mikeburdi3464
@mikeburdi3464 11 месяцев назад
Keith seems like such a very chill, humble dude, who possesses a wealth of automotive knowledge. A great person to know.
@michaelkane732
@michaelkane732 Год назад
two great minds at work!!
@thadmachia9873
@thadmachia9873 Год назад
Another awesome diagnostic!
@basshunter428
@basshunter428 Год назад
Great to see the "LEGEND" hunting down gremlins again! Happy Holidays, Keith! Great video, Ivan! 👍
@ginuwine11
@ginuwine11 Год назад
Great diagnosis, and good to see Keith out. I enjoyed his channel and your ride alongs together a few years back. I liked the group pic, I see my “Pico Essentials” instructor, Brian Mann! Ya’ have a good Thanksgiving holiday and stay blessed!
@stevenkerwin4041
@stevenkerwin4041 Год назад
Brian Mann doesn't get enough credit from the algorithm. Always have to search for his content.
@satamanschmidt3428
@satamanschmidt3428 Год назад
Great to see that Keith is alive and well. I can't see him flying a desk for that much longer before Keith's Midnight Diagnostic Services is back in business. You can take the boy out of Stanton Island but you can't take the Stanton Island out of the boy.
@sblagg527
@sblagg527 Год назад
STATEN Island, not "Stanton." 🙄
@tbelding
@tbelding Год назад
@@sblagg527 - Tripadvisor says it's Stanton :) They talk about the Stanton Island Ferry.
@stevemazzarella7212
@stevemazzarella7212 Год назад
You guys are awesome!! Thanks for that video
@kyletuttle9064
@kyletuttle9064 Год назад
Great diag guys always enjoy and learn from you two
@casemotube
@casemotube Год назад
Hey, I’m retired from bending wrenches on electric forklifts, and over three decades, I’ve done my fair share of circuit testing to say the least. That being said, I’d simply like to complement the process of diagnosing that you use, and your procedures for hunting hots and grounds is spotless. Great work on every step! 🫵🏼👍🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@arthurfricchione8119
@arthurfricchione8119 Год назад
Ivan great to see Keith back in the field. Greatly missed. Final diagnosis is engine computer. Interesting to see if one can be located and programmed in todays world. Thanks again to both of you for sharing 👍
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
Good to see you and Keith working side by side (usually he hanged in the background). Great diagnostic on a not-so-easy little car. Too bad it wasn't a NPR, to make it perfect :-)
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 Год назад
Great video .Nice to see Keith out in the sun..
@glenharper3136
@glenharper3136 Год назад
It was GREAT to see Keith. Nice video Ivan.
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 Год назад
Thanks for bringing us along! The amount of scanners on display is crazy lol
@two6s722
@two6s722 Год назад
good to see you, Keith😀
@williamwhite9767
@williamwhite9767 Год назад
Two geniuses at work!
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 Год назад
Good to see Keith out in the field again, nice change of pace for him. Keith sure has a lot of toys. RIP Fiat ECM. Thanks Ivan, very interesting.
@jackrichiedei
@jackrichiedei Год назад
I wait for your videos . LOVE THEM. I'm an old points , plugs and condenser guy. Rice rockets and rock climbing for the pump . Always liked the tracking down of problems . The challenge and satisfaction of completing a job stoked me. I wish I had stayed with it . Thanks for sharing and teaching us all the right way to diagnose . Are you getting into E V repair ?
@jimmartin9440
@jimmartin9440 Год назад
Always the best!
@patriot2164
@patriot2164 Год назад
Hey Keith ! Good Seeing you back with Ivan !
@ofalejandro12
@ofalejandro12 3 месяца назад
man when you said man against car i like that it feels so good just cracking your coconut trying to figure out whats the problem with the car what im trying to say is there's nothing better than do what you enjoy to do while making money thats the best and i keep watching your videos always learn something from even if is just a little bit issssss goood man thanks for sharing that knowledge
@andersonchimukono8498
@andersonchimukono8498 Месяц назад
Great job ❤❤
@weldingjunkie
@weldingjunkie Год назад
Good to see Keith out in the field again. Are you sure he wanted to touch that Zues lol 😂 looks like you guys had a good time
@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO
@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO Год назад
Good to see "The Legend" back in action! Great video. I freaked out a little bit hearing the way that engine cranked 😂Btw maybe a good idea to check the 5 volt refs.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Год назад
Hey how are you doing Eric! Nice to see you in the comments! Happy Thanksgiving bro :)
@TheMajorLeagueGinger
@TheMajorLeagueGinger Год назад
I have a 2012 Fiat 500 with 140k miles on it, regular maintenance and it's still running well enough :] I did my belt and water pump at 120k and recently got the trans drained and filled. It's never left me stranded surprisingly
@sixertogo
@sixertogo Год назад
glad to see keith again!!!!
@petepeabody8905
@petepeabody8905 Год назад
keith good to see you both at work
@elcheapo5302
@elcheapo5302 Год назад
Nice to see Keith in a video again! Really miss his NLA videos.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Год назад
Nice to see keith having time away from teaching, hands on is always good. You bounce your/keith's thoughts and catch the faults faster :-D Handy to have more than one diagnostic computer, different style of programing can show more, or just show things in a better way. Dam i'm stating the obvious again lol.
@SuperM1687
@SuperM1687 Год назад
Two Legends!!!
@rysacroft
@rysacroft Год назад
It's nice to see Keith again.Long time no see!
@jonathanclark7155
@jonathanclark7155 Год назад
Man love your videos. I can watch this all day. Where did you get your training? Self taught? Im a L1 master Tech at a Firestone in Texas. 6 years of experience and this is where i strive to be one day! So motivational
@gijsvanoene8423
@gijsvanoene8423 Год назад
In most pre 2018 Fiat's the BCM holds the coding for all the modules in the car. Simply pug in a new module and it wil code it self with the data from the BCM. After that preform a proxi alignment an it should work.
@scientist100
@scientist100 Год назад
The matco scan tool is just like the launch lol
@awakenotwoke1973
@awakenotwoke1973 Год назад
Found In A Tip! I actually started my time at a stealership with Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Hyundai, and Mazda.
@fixitnowmowers8065
@fixitnowmowers8065 Год назад
Ivan's SUZUKI TO THE RESCUE !
@donaldisrael7147
@donaldisrael7147 Год назад
A lot of Magneti Morelli on my old Alfss too.
@v8motors.
@v8motors. Год назад
The best scanners are Keith & Ivan.👍
@bluejayoutpost9170
@bluejayoutpost9170 Год назад
As soon as you said I may just hold the camera I just knew better lol. Everyone in the comments your cool too. Nice read! sure miss Keith~way to go Happy travels home and Happy Thanksgiving
@TOM2RN
@TOM2RN Год назад
Company was called Magnetti Marelli until a few years ago. A Japanese company bought them out and shortened it to Marelli. They had a plant here in NC in Sanford. Closed it in 2001 due downturn in the economy and moved operation to Mexico. Plant was opened in 1976 in Sanford. Cheaper labor costs won out.
@NoName-yr1jv
@NoName-yr1jv Год назад
Great video 👍
@TheShop10
@TheShop10 Год назад
Holy crap, It's the Chuck Norris of Diagnosticians. That sure is an elusive fellow.
@AP9311
@AP9311 Год назад
Is great video to see Keith on here Anna helping and figuring it out the issues with that fiat 500, lol. That car should go junk yard. Lol. Too many gremlins lol. Great video, Ivan!
@xerxes456
@xerxes456 Год назад
It would be a dream to have 2 of you on my driveway to diagnose a car
@danman9017
@danman9017 Год назад
great video tks
@stigonutube
@stigonutube Год назад
Heya Keith and Ivan, Keith brings da big guns diag tools LOL thinktool pros held it's own Though..Good diag thorough checks of the basics powers and grounds+relays
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 Год назад
I think you two are having too much fun! We are too! Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving. Don't eat too much! (Ha!) Thanks for Sharing!
@PaulysAuto
@PaulysAuto Год назад
Always fun to see Keith back on car...awesome video Ivan, thanks for the video and training gentlemen. Have a wonderful weekend.
@salahabdulselam556
@salahabdulselam556 Год назад
ivaaaaaan i don't know how i missed this vid , getting hyped up ... could you please make a playlist of videos of you and keith doin things together , we would love it
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Год назад
Way ahead of you... See "Staten Island Express" 🙂👍
@salahabdulselam556
@salahabdulselam556 Год назад
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics :D ivan yeah i've seen them all but keith is not always there :D thankyooo for the awesome sorting of playlists tho kudos from Ethiopia
@FixItPhillip
@FixItPhillip Год назад
Is it possible that the 5v reference signal could be shorted causing the pcm to have no com? I know on toyotas that happens, pcm goes into a no com state when 5v ref is shorted to ground. What do you think brotha
@jamieharris74
@jamieharris74 Год назад
I had a 2013 Fiat 500 in 2015. Battery went bad, and jumping the car multiple times knocked the PCM out. Waited weeks for one to get shipped from Italy. Fortunately it was still under warranty-and there was still a relatively local dealer.
@arielatom03
@arielatom03 Год назад
I was waiting for you to manually turn on the asd relay with the ecm plugged in and see if maybe com was restored.
@mandymoo7406
@mandymoo7406 Год назад
got to say it was all pointing to a standard earthing issue at first but then it wasnt,when i worked on fiats i found quite a few suffered from water ingress of the body computers and back then they were actually in the car
@aleskyfinis1025
@aleskyfinis1025 Год назад
Try to do more diagnosing the Keith that’s great
@billziegmond4943
@billziegmond4943 Год назад
WOW I thought Keith was turning into Howard Hughes becoming a recluse. Wish I could have been their.
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 Год назад
Great diagnosis, Keith seems a bit rusty but 2 years is a long time to be out of the game. I may need you to look at my son's 2003 Accord, it's running rough. Will be traveling up from Florida next week back home to Everett, hope I can fix but if not will be in contact- I assume you'll be free on Thanksgiving Day ? 🦃 😉 😂.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Год назад
Keith never gets rusty 😉
@shamessun
@shamessun Год назад
Thank you pin hollow . Thank you kieth
@michael9515
@michael9515 Год назад
Magnetti Marelli does standardised electronics for motoGP. All bikes same ECU-s from them. So they are really big 👌
@samwojek6628
@samwojek6628 Год назад
14:15 You could connect a multimeter on current measuring mode in series with Your “fuse” setup to see how many amps it takes or even easier…get DC clamp meter. Good job anyway👍
@randischwarz5072
@randischwarz5072 Год назад
Ivan, you forgot one thing bout this vehicle...it makes a great boat anchor.
@huntnfishnuts5880
@huntnfishnuts5880 Год назад
A lot of the newer mopar electronics are made by magneti, solid diag, 👍
@floro7130
@floro7130 Год назад
I would also like to see the result (replacing the ecu and starting it) .... because I wonder if it is not the electromotor of the hydraulic pump of the gearbox that is short-circuited and the ecu has nothing broken (if the gearbox is robotic)
@ablackformula
@ablackformula Год назад
I was expecting to see some sort of 5v ref checks, and then was hoping to see the pcm plugged in and to manually close the asd relay. Maybe the pcm just lost that one output which you could "no parts required" fix
@caduceus33
@caduceus33 Год назад
I recall from many, many months ago that Keith was planning to begin working on cars on the side. So I guess that did not happen?
@markrup6369
@markrup6369 Год назад
Did you make sure the ASD relay was good? Could you manually energize the ASD relay and provide power to the three fuses??
@marknaravas318
@marknaravas318 Год назад
It seems Grasshopper is biting at the master in this video!
@ADDAUTOMOBILESERVICES
@ADDAUTOMOBILESERVICES Год назад
Miss the legend
@r.weaver3769
@r.weaver3769 Год назад
My 98 Harley Davidson has Magneti Marelli engine EFI, I think they ran those from 1996 to 2000.
@gaad7938
@gaad7938 Год назад
Magneti Marelli used to supply ECM's to Ferrari for use in their F1 cars. Today I believe all ECMs are standardized in F1.
@user-ke4qc3ki2b
@user-ke4qc3ki2b Год назад
You havent tested the relay control wire for continuity or I didnt saw it? I've seen a lot of euro cars with same problem and a lot of the times is broken control wire of the relay which powers up the ecm. Also you could have put power to those fuses (manually energize the relay) and test if there is communication with the ecm right?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. Год назад
Ivan was fired up, laying down that sweet PHAD sarcasm: "..too bad it's an automatic, I don't know who buys one of these that's automatic." and "Does it do a health report like any modern scanner?" and "..because it has to translate from Italian, to Chinese, to English" and "..that's pretty high mileage for a Fiat, right Keith?" Well done Dynamic Duo!
@kostelectronics
@kostelectronics Год назад
Hey Ivan, what about the 5V Reference? maybe it's shorted?!
@davidk7324
@davidk7324 Год назад
"I don't know who buys one of these in automatic." Maybe the owner standing next to you?😁
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