@@Shaihan it's ez pz with a mouse if you control it well and fast Forsome reason I find that I can't control a mouse on a laptop good as on a desktop and I can't work on a laptop but it's quick on dekstop
Just based on the recent trend of videos and continued quality, I can tell this channel is going to blow up like crazy soon. Great video Josh, you deserve it!
I don't disable turbo boost, instead I use Turbo boost Ratio Limit in Throttlestop. So it won't be as slow as entirely disable turbo boost but still manage to be not so hot. :)
For MacOS I can recommend using "Turbo Boost Switcher" to disable Turbo Boost. Now the MacBook runs cooler and longer on battery and with the Pro-Version of the Software you can create a whitelist for programs who need the power of the Turbo Boost.
Elismania I don’t have a Mac, but if you’re able to lower the temps with this, there’s some fan controller app you can download to control the fan speed. So if it’s running cooler, you can make it quieter
@Elismania I didn’t recognize any differences in fan noises. The Notebook is very quiet... well as far as I think it got quieter, because the device doesn’t get so hot.
A great way to disable Turbo Boost on Windows (7, 8, 10) is to enter the advanced power settings, and set maximum processor speed to 99%. No software needed. This option can be set differently for different power profiles. Great if you could add this method in a future guide.
@Futon Entertainment that is really weird and to me it sounds that you actually have some kind of a software bug at your hands. Maybe some registry key is changed/corrupted as those control what is visible in your power options.
You forgot to mention that throttlestop can limit the max frequency of the cpu (which I think is very helpful)...instead of disabling the turbo boost, just limit its max frequency. Also it has 4 profiles to easily switch from.
You are the only RU-vidr who seems to actually USE the devices before reviewing like a normal person would do. The little things end up being the biggest after actual use
The funny thing about undervolting is that when you've undervolted your CPU just a tiny bit too much, the laptop most commonly crashes or freezes not when the CPU is under load but when it's idle. I undervolted my i7-8750H with ThrottleStop to -0.150, and it was stable while stress-testing it. However, the laptop froze up twice during the next three weeks, and both times while it was idling. So I changed the undervolt to -0.145, and it's been running stable for the last 1 1/2 years.
Josh you don't have to disable turbo boost entirely. Instead, you can set max CPU frequency in windows power plan settings to something lower without having to stick to base frequency the entire time. This greatly improved fan noise for me on my XPS 9300. Thanks!
If the setting is not showing up...you can follow these steps to get it. www.tenforums.com/tutorials/95580-add-remove-maximum-processor-frequency-windows-10-power-options.html
You can change the cursor size without a third-party app. It's in the Windows settings. Also, Dell has disabled undervolting for most of its models and currently it's not possible to do it. Can't speak for all models though, you need to check for your own.
Im wondering why you aren't more popular! You and Lisa from mobiletechreview (although in a different way) are the best tech reviewers I know! You complement each other beautifully!
Hey man, just discovered your channel, I love your content! I was wondering if you'd ever look at the Huawei Matebook (13, 14 or 15), since I've heard very polarizing opinions on it and it seems like an attractive option, but I'd like to hear your opinion on it.
Thank you for your amazing detailed laptop reviews. I was wondering if you can have another category for laptop reviews which is budget category but with good or acceptable displays. Thank you
Not sure if anyone has compared the AMD omen linked, but the intel 10750h is hot and loud stock. I repasted (about double the amount it should have) and set bios to disable “fan always on” and now the fan only turns on around 60C. Running the power profile “power saver” and lowering power limits/speed step also help rather than disabling turbo. This helped a bunch, but unfortunately my 2020 omen 15 still has a high pitched whine due to the fan design which I think is impossible to get rid of. Most reviewers only test decibels, but it would be great if they also tested the frequencies that the fans emit.
The 2020 HP Pavillion turns the fans off when under light loads, which means that if you're just browsing the web and watching videos and whatnot, and if you have a Ryzen version, the laptop will basically be completely silent.
He talked about it briefly in his previous video. He didn’t review it because it’s been done a lot by other youtubers and he felt like he couldn’t add anything new to it, so he will review other laptops instead. Honestly, that made me respect Josh even more
Hi Josh, I have the XPS 15 9500, same CPU. From what I've seen Intel XTU and throttlestop undervolts don't stick. Reddit posts seem to confirm this and that this generation of Intel CPUs on laptops can't be undervolted. Just wondering how you managed to get that working on the XPS 13. Cheers
I have a MacBook Pro and I must be one of the lucky few. The fans rarely to never become audible and the laptop never gets what I’d consider to be hot. All while running at decent speeds.
After years of seeing this type of issue, I can't help but wonder why there isn't an after market company that uses better fan technology to make hyper-quiet fans for replacement.
I see you still using your XPS 13?! I remember your video where it seemed you weren’t really thrilled...are you liking it much better now? Great info btw!!
Nice video, but I would recommend against using Cinebench R20 for undervolting and would instead use Prime95 to test stability. Whereas Cinebench is a benchmark tool (used to measure performance), Prime95 is a stress/torture test tool (used to test stability) and would be more effective at finding stability issues and in less time. Specifically, I'd recommend running small FFTs torture test in Prime95 for around half an hour with no errors. If you want to go further, you can also try a blend test overnight. It's worth noting that Prime95 is excessively stressful when compared to even heavy usage of a computer, but it gives confidence (not a garuntee) that your undervolt won't crumble under heavy loads. That said, undervolts can cause problems outside of high stress so running other tests (like cinebench and just using your laptop) also has value. You can also use Cinebench and other benchmarking tools to compare your performance with and without the undervolt (and making sure you aren't losing performance). Also, thank you for your guides and reviews. They're really helpful and they just feel more authentic (I don't know how to describe it) than a lot of other reviews I've seen. Keep up the good work! Edit: Just wanted to add in that lots of people have laptop processors that are more powerful than they need. If you have an expensive laptop, but only do stuff like web browsing, you can try reducing the max processor state (search "Edit power plan" in start menu > Change advanced power settings > Processor power mangement > Maximum processor state > reduce the max. If you notice it feels sluggish, turn it up or leave it at 100%). This can also increase battery life by a fair amount depending on how much you reduce it by. Just remember to turn it up if you ever try something intensive like photo editing or gaming.
Very impressed by your videos and put a lot of trust in your opinion, waiting your review of the coolest and quietest laptops of 2020, and wondering whether you were going to review models of Dell Latitude. I’ll be more than happy to listen to your opinion of the Dell latitude 5410. Greetings from the land of pharaohs, Egypt
@@jef8278 I would be inclined to think it's the exact opposite, and the worse the cooling solution is, the more liquid metal would make a difference? I'm using a XPS 9300 13'
@@Innovate-pq9ci my reasoning is that if the copper pipes, fins, and fans are not sufficient, then adding liquid metal will only slightly delay the inevitable point were the laptop's cooling solution is overwhelmed
Hey josh. I’m struggling really bad and it’s stressing me out. I go to northern Virginia community college and right now I’m just taking general classes but I would like to buy a new laptop cause the one I have right now is awful with zoom and office. What’s a good pick. Hoping to keep for a few years. On a budget of around 600
It is actually not always advicable to update from the chipset/graphic manufacturer's site because my slim 7 doesn't work with Amd Freesync with AMD's latest drivers but it supports AMD Freesync on AMD'd old Drivers installed from Lenovo's site
Fantastic reviews, to the point, no bullshit. Just a question: Do the same graphics cards work differently in different laptops? A 1650 ti in dell XPS 15 or a Thinkpad works different than a gaming laptop, why is that?
They do due to the thermal constraints of the chassis and cooling design, as well as other factors. Sometimes different dedicated graphics can accept more watts in certain laptops (making them more powerful) than others.
Great video as always. I was looking for the Macs Fan Control app for my MacBook Pro 13 and got several results. Would you mind sharing the link to the one that you use for your MBP 16?
Just in case people expect -100mv to just work: 1. Intel Ice Lake undervolt like absolute trash, start with -5mv increment. 2. Intel 10th gen mobile expected undervolt range is lower, personally I would recommend start -50mv instead. 3. You CANNOT undervolt ryzen mobile at all, you can use Ryzen controller to lower turbo ratio, however. Edit: 4. U/Y series undervolt range is also lower, I don't have enough data on them though, just undervolt more carefully.
I am just curious to ask how did you get to 75k+ subscribers you have just 50+ videos on the channel, please give me some ideas and tips to grow my channel! Btw, your videos are very informative!
Sir, just once give a chance to Lenovo ideapad s540 13.3 inch model. It has 16:10 display and i have been using the intel variant of it and it’s fan doesn’t turn on even once in normal day to day usage like playing RU-vid videos and etc. and the raw performance it provides it superb. It maintains 3.40ghz frequency during load.
Please review hp envy x360 15" I think its the best value for money laptop but not quiet sure about it. And there arent much videos about this laptops that are useful for me. Please try to review that too 🙂
josh ive been looking at the hp envy x360 (15") for a while now and i know what u said on ur last vid about uncovered laptops, but can u do a review if possible, its a relatively new laptop and there arent much useful reviews around (except maybe andrew marc david's) so id like ur opinion on that. Anyways, Gr8 videos m8!!
The Display is not very good though, but otherwise it has good fittings and a lot of perfomance! You should consider the 13" Version as it has a very good display with 400nits and 100% sRGB
I really liked this Asus machine at first -- but I have had problems with the fans continually. I had service insurance with Best Buy but it ended last year when the covid struck and I couldn't get service. I paid $1500 for this computer. I have replaced the fans once, and now I have clean them every 30 days or so. My second Asus--but never again.
My Thinkpad X1 Carbon would have me believe there isn't even a fan in the chassis. Runs extremely cool, sometimes as low as 35C for normal web browsing, and no more than 50C when playing videos. This is undervolted running Fedora 32.
Two Feedbacks! (1) You completely ignored the Linux users, who although smaller in number, in the past, but now rising rapidly! Linux has some of the lowest battery life and very weird Fan behavior/controls... Tools like tlp are open-sourced and often not straight forward to use! (2) For Dell XPS series and probably others, applying a Thermal pad on VRMs also helps, to shred the heat through the metal bottom plate. I am not sure about other laptops but aside from repasting, it helped mine...This of course only for laptops with metal bottom and exposed VRMs....
I wouldn't recommend undervolting Intel CPUs at all if you care about security due to PlunderVolt... by that point you might as well disable UAC admin permission prompts and publish your banking details online. Incase you think I'm exaggerating, bare in mind that many Intel 10th gen laptops have undervolting locked/disabled. If it wasn't a big security risk why would they stop their customers from doing it?
Great video with amazing content . So I have dell 9500, and I do light/productivity work for school, the fans are quiet till I connect it to my external monitor Is that normal?why should external monitor makes laptop generate more heat(fans are always when connected to external monitor)?
It’s too complex Josh... I just choked my Zephyrus G14 in power management and it doesn’t go high than 38 Celcius... whatever task it performs... I prefer to wait rather than burn
Beware of pump out effect from the noctua paste, they are too liquidy. You need to use thicker paste for laptops unless you don't mind repasting every 3 month. The thermal grizzly paste is what I'd recommend but all paste has pump out effect.
THE IRONY !! When I’m shopping for a nee laptop having been stuck with Toshiba from 2010 that lost fan function for the past 5 years at least and still “fan noise and heat r the problem of modern laptops” 😑😑😑
