I imagine they can just bump a new TV out by enough to clear the recess... But yeah it's just not a style I'd ever recommend. Recessing TVs belongs back like 15 years ago when they used fluorescent tubes to illuminate flat panels.
@@slapstra1970 I just realized that it's supposed to be like a clinic desk/room at the end. Idk I still think after like 2010 we shouldn't be recessing TVs, if you want a feature wall, get like architectural panels for the light to play off of.
It’s a pretty small wall all things considered - if you do want a recessed TV why not just frame the entire wall out by 2 inches or whatever and make it straight? (And if you want the diagonal lines pointing at the TV… paint it in different colors of grey.)
Always fun to inherit someone else's mess. The angled wall face could become the popcorn ceiling of the 2020's. I have discovered your videos and I am amazed! Good reasons for your approaches, matched with years of skill. Since I started watching I feather my edges when I put peanut butter on my toast! When you said "I have a bucket of mud on the wall", I thought of "99 buckets of mud on the wall, 99 buckets of mud. You sand one down until there's no crown, 98 buckets of mud on the wall...".
Bro your like the Bob Ross of drywalling love your videos and the work you do you have saved my ass with fixing lathe and plaster jobs and trying to fit in drywall to stubborn plaster and getting to where it needs to be thank you ao much for everything!!!
Fantastic. Biggest mistake I made when I started mudding was thinking things had to look great before I moved on. A lot of videos on mudding are shot from a distance and will leave you wondering what your problem is. Trust your process!
One of the coolest drywall repair vids I've ever seen. All of the info one gets in vids like this, especially for all those newer to the profession, are like free gold.
I have been watching many of your videos for a few months now trying to learn about drywall in order to do a project I had planned. I started the project today and used everything I learned from you. I am in shock at how good it is coming out. Watched others but always come back to yours. Can’t thank you enough for the lessons. I feel very confident in Sheetrock work now. I can finish my garage apartment. Thank you so much!!!
Prime reason for KISS-- (keep it simple stupid) but if required for the job, it's a requirement (by the guys who messed up to learn) the 5P rule: "Prior planning prevents poor performance". You did an awesome job fixing that horrible mess! As always, great job showcasing how it's supposed to be done!
Wow, near perfection can happen! You take the steps needed to get this done right and I appreciate you showing us how it's done. Glad to hear you are working on getting your back fixed up. Take care and thanks for the great info.
Im glad I finally got to see you “drop a blob”. I drop one every time I attempt the hawk. Im much better with the pan and knife as a diy’er. But Im trying to get proficient with the hawk and trowel. Thanks for showing this job. Definitely out of the ordinary.
I have learnt so much from your channel and as I work I can hear your voice over my shoulder saying now feather the edges, now finish passes, now the 6" knife comes in handy.. lol didn't know 6 inch knives are curved, that is a big new tip. thank you!
Really fantastic job Ben. Sure appreciate your determination to do a clean proper job, be a ton of fun to work with you. Ceetainly has to be a rewarding job to make the way it was intended to look! 👍🎉
It's looking awesome. I've tried tape and jointing on a small project I'm doing. Not so common in the UK as we tend to plaster skim fully. It's nice to see how imperfect yours is close up on first coats. Hope my second coat/ skim will iron the walls out nicely like you get!
Glad you're feeling better and taking care of yourself. I appreciate all the knowledge you've dispensed over the years; I've used it in my own home and while the results aren't as good as yours, they're worlds better than they would be without this education. I also always appreciate you ending the video with wishing us well and reminding us that we're just as important as the work that we do.
Very well done. Am I the only one who thought, "A bit of extra time spent framing would have eliminated 90% of the hassle you (and the guy before you) had to go through."? Incompetence seems to roll down hill until it hits someone who doesn't think close is good enough. Either that or the home owner winds up paying for less than they expected.
Couldn't agree more. Somewhere 1/3 to 1/2 my work is framing and that was my first thought as well. I try to treat all my jobs as if Monday morning me has to deal with all of Friday afternoon me's bullshit and that framing was some Friday afternoon BS. Just because you *can* make that buildout entirely out of drywall and mud doesn't mean it gives the best result or is cost-effective. I would've ripped some 2x furring wedges then cut and placed some thin sheet good in an "envelope" cut like you do with large tile on a shower pan. That way the angles and corners are already built in and the hangers can just follow the plywood to get everything to plane out right. It'd still take a good finisher to make it look nice, but ya gotta at least give the next guy a chance.
@@Anytus2007 Yep. Too many framers think speed is the mark of success. They don't ask themselves if they would want their own homes built by someone who cut corners just to save time.
I frame like I'M the one hanging, I hang like I'M the one mudding, and I mud like I'M the one painting and trimming...mostly because I AM, but even if I weren't, it would save time and make a better product.
Great video! Great video! Man that was exactly what I wanted to see. Really put your skills to the test and a good teaching situation. I wish I could show you some pictures from my project. Similar bad framing and bad board hanging but I'm learning from watching your channel and I think it's paying off!
One of your very best videos, for me, This is a difficult and challenging job, invloves some extra skills, and is really well done ! My 1st response when you show the issues at the start , was omg ,,,, Love the way you figured it out as the job progressed. Best wishes, from Victoria
I mean this in the kindest possible way, and with a TON of respect, but you have a Mr Rogers vibe in this video. Super calm, super non-judgmental, always trying to teach. It's your super power bro. Keep up the amazing work!
"Its amazing how much you can do with your 6 inch...it should have a little curve in it" - Vancouver Carpenter I have to round up, but my wife doesn't know the difference.
Thanks for showing this, yeah beyond what most of us have to cope with, but I do have compound curves in a plaster ceiling in a stairwell that might need something someday and now I know some things to avoid in technique.
Funny that when you said "Good enough," you only meant that it was time to leave that coat of mud alone and let it dry. This seems to be an important point to recognize in the mudding process and is quite different from what those who did the awful initial work considered "good enough." Thanks for your many helpful videos!
I love your videos!!! I need more of those ASMR with cool and relaxing music playing, it's therapistic! You're a big professional, always doing the best works
One more reason why I couldn’t do this as a profession. There is no good reason for these ridges. Your craftsmanship is impeccable, but would be better spent building something smart and functional or at least very pleasing to look at. My greatest respect for staying so upbeat about it.
You are awesome! I love your videos man. again sorry it took so long... 1 year later but thank you very much for all your videos. FEEL BETTER!!! Heal that back man!!
I agree. Given that the customer needed/wanted flat screens in those locations, I believe millwork (cabinets or surrounds) would be better suited on what I believe was originally a flat wall. Vancouver Carpenter certainly is not going to say that the pimples were a stupid idea.
Nicely done. I started using steel plate for my rendering. Long story. Plasterers from U.k were telling me how they using a feathering straight edge. From the 1970s onwards, firstly in Australia plasterers used oregan (douglas fern ) to screed off render, float etc. The bricks were fire cooked so only cooked at around 200 to 300 degree Celsius. With this the plasterers used to screed the mortar wet. Later gas fired bricks which were cooked a lot, lot hotter at 3,000 degrees Celsius meant the mortar dried quicker. Straight edges changed from wood to using aluminium box rules and actually scraping the mortar. Also t bar were used. I went from box to t bar back to box as the box a little wider didn't flex so it ensures a more flat finish on large walls etc. Going back to the Plasterers from UK wales and England, I was told about darbies and feathering straight edges. So I bought one and then a newer version. I find on very wet mortar screeding with a box rule removes more than using a feathering edge. That lead me to go to the steel shop and buy off cuts of steel sheeting. 2 mm thick and 2.5 mm thick for longer ones and it works well on very wet work. Your work is quite impressive for a Carpenter. I have worked with carpenter on dry wall fixing. I have done a reasonable amount of flushing and use water with a fine mist on the coats. I bought plaster from an industrial chemist for flushing. I used water with a fine mist to trowel flat then use a topping compound. I can however spend more time and trowel to a finish. I need to then avoid using too much water. The paper external corner tape you have we hardly come across. It a funny thing about formulas as you mentioned around 24 minutes. I have worked with an industrial chemist and gave him feedback. They have scales and use retarders, pearl light and other ingredients I cannot think of at the moment. The mix with the right amount is done by using sensitive scales.I stopped using lime after an industrial chemist said, we consider lime to be no good. It was the best thing I have done. Thankyou for spending the time uploading this video. Edited 2.5mm steel as I left out the dot.
There is no doubt, you are an artist as well as a craftsman. It's rare these days to find craftsman that are as passionate & diligent in their work as you are. It's refreshing to know they still exist, just wish I knew one close by. 😊
I am a wallpaper installer and I can't stress enough how important the prep work is. I have had to paper walls very similar to the ones he corrected. He is a very good teacher. Really appreciate the videos
So is my wife, the best paper hangar on the planet, her dad taught her from childhood, he was from Germany and did banks and big palaces. She is unbelievable and no one in town can do what she does. It's an art form for sure.
The original job seem like they added more mud until they buried the defects in the framing. Just trowel it on the the problem disappears. Nice recovery and landing.
The craftsmanship is excellent, but that design though - drawing all that attention to the fact that you have a huge wall and put a tiny TV on it that will look stupidly out of place - some people just don't have any taste I guess. At least this is some kind of commercial building - at first I thought this was in a house, and was like "WTF??"
*I have worked on Radius Stare Cases, Angles are Difficult* You have done an Excellent job! 👍🏻💥and thank you so much for sharing bye for now take care Ken
I'm going to give you a suggestion for curves like the bottom of the TV square. As a sculptor who has to deal with stuff like this a lot, it is generally best to sand on diagonals with a large block.
Hi Ben! I'm a big fan of your channel. I am a custom automotive painter and have to do bodywork on my jobs. For a kooky project like this, a "guide coat" would help your "sanding to perfection". I use cheap flat black spray paint, or ground up black chalk and smear (dab) the entire surface. The low spots stay dark while the high spots become "highlighted" as the dark chalk gets sanded off. You are a great and talented craftsman! Keep up the good work. Your channel is very educational.
Beautiful. I keep thinking that I am slow because my float jobs never seem to come out as smooth as yours does in every pass, but your videos are helping me see that it isn't always my lack of skill but characteristics of the job and or compounds. Thanks a lot
Masterclass from the Jedi Drywall Master absolutely fantastic insights. You are the one I have to thank for taking my drywall skills to the next level…
Looks fantastic !!! Never could understand how a professional tradesman could leave such horrible work for the guy to fix. Any job you do, should be with the thought of the next trade coming up next. Have respect for your work !!!! But for me, those tv areas are ugly !!!
The line at 27.12 was so satisfying when you finally got to it. It just stood out so much and it was driving me nuts so I was just like, GET THERE FASTER haha.
Watched the whole thing and somebody else's mess is no longer in the building. That took patience and lots of skills. Looks absolutely great now Ben! Regarding your back & physio - have you ever tried Arnica Gel by Boiron? You can get it in cream or gel formula; the gel is just cleaner, less messy. This stuff really works. It's a natural anti-inflammatory and pain relief due to lessened inflammation. It's a staple in my first aid kit. Hope you're doing better now.
Maybe its just me but honestly to avoid any concaves or convex surfaces I would have asked the client to fully reno the poorly assembled wall dynamic. Personally I would have taken the cabinetry down and out of the way, torn out the drywall, added symmetrical dynamic shims to the wall studs compensating for the drywall and mudding layers, applied new drywall and keep the surfaces sharp without having to overload the wall with mud this includes maintaining an symmetrical approach ignoring corners and long distances, using the shortest distance as the focus for symmetrical design.
There is a special kind of hell reserved for those who do a job like this, where they also, like us, will be forced to fix their mistakes for what feels like an eternity
The person who designed that BS needs to be fired. If it was the home owners idea the contractor should have walked. Sometimes the customers vision has a case of anal glaucoma.
I appreciate your videos so much man. I’ve been in carpentry for a long time and just focusing on honing those skills and refused to do Sheetrock and taping because I never learned how so it was very intimidating and it was holding me back from staying busy all winter long. Anywho, thanks to your content, I did a remodel in my basement and learned how to mud and tape. I’m still a novice but I’m past the fear of doing shotty work. Thanks bud!
Wild design some contractor came up with. I hope that you charged appropriately for a labor intensive custom design. Maybe next time that contractor will think twice about the time and cost of doing that again. Love your work. You are the exception in the industry. Someone who actually takes pride in a job well done and not just get-er-done, get paid and move on.
They make a sanding sponge also that's about 10" long a big rectangle like 4x4" diagonally sanded works best. They do sell that mud in the states it's called high density and also labels manufactured home quick set made by hamiltons. Pain to sand, I use the festool ans 40 grit for cutting down too to shape
Great job getting a bungled job of a hideous, ridiculous, failed design of a silly affectation "corrected". A learning moment.. know when to decline a project. Excellent video.
That's every job I do ... I have floated out the worst manufactured homes since I was 15 and I'm 40 now. I have a secret weapon I use for coved seams I use. Makes it as easy as easy can be for them. Spent years struggling with them as ceilings are average 5/8" out where the halves meet. One day after spending an entire day sanding diagonal using your method and making 1000 knives I thought would work. If your interested in seeing it let me know.
I've got pretty good at finishing sheetrock after following yours and your fellow Canadian drywall You Tuber . I won't mention his name because lately, he's just become weird! Anyway, one of the things I've learned is how important the framing is to allow a good final finish. I can't imagine doing this multiple angle sheetrock tv nook. I did a regular rectangular tv nook in my living room, and it took me several attempts to finally get it perfect. This leads me to my question .... could you possibly do a video on how to frame projects like this multiple angle tv nook as an example. I personally want to build a shelving unit recessed in a wall out of sheetrock. Learning how to frame such projects would be very helpful! Thank you! 😊
Agreed, I think framing played a big part. the lack of symmetry kinda forced rounded curves. but with your shelf, a hard corner going back to flat if done properly would look sharp. imo
Nice job, mate - the way you wield that hawk and trowel, I presume that you're good at using gypsum plaster as well - the norm here in the UK. Thanks for all the hints and tips.
Formula changes (mud, paint, detergent, etc.) with no notice (not even a “new and improved). What a pain. And then there’s the lesson in waiting for the right craftsman frequently isn’t a delay.
I do not envy this particular job, that style looked like a nightmare to work with, can't believe they wanted 2 of that same style haha amazing job though, I didn't know how that was going to be salvaged but you did amazing
Great show. For the back pain have you tried a "TENS" device? You put a few pads around where it hurts and it sends small electrical shocks to stimulate the muscles. It doesn't really treat the problem but does make it feel better. For about 20-30 dollars you can't go wrong.
Been watching him for years and I couldn't figure out who he reminded me UNTIL min 10. When hes talking about Plurals it hit me. He is the Mr. Rodgers of Drywalling... 😂
Just wanted to comment to help boost the channel! Keep it up man! Funny how you mentioned you were going to do the job, but you were too busy. Definitely had that happen a few times only to come back and see what happened on the job when I wasn't there! XD
I agree with mud being wetter, I use no pock and last time it only took 1/2 cup of water, mud I used 1 cup of water had to be used on my angles. Tapping mud has been a crap show. Nice job Vancouver.
Good morning bud hope all is well with you and your family also I found your videos last week and they are amazing there so much information and knowledge to be learned
Great video. This level of work is way above anything I would try but so much fun to watch. It’s like watching professional sports that I can do well but only at the amateur level.