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Flat Earther proving the globe .... Again! 

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@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 2 месяца назад
Correction: @10:15 regarding the ships distance, I overlooked that Jeran's measurement will be in nautical miles, however is figure is still over 700 miles shorter than the great circle route
@mikefochtman7164
@mikefochtman7164 2 месяца назад
I'm not so sure. Jeran's web site showing the ship's speed in 'mph' "miles per hour". Ships do often work with nautical miles, but then it would show speed in 'knots', the customary units for 'nautical miles per hour' versus 'mph' for 'statue miles per hour.'. It doesn't really change the outcome, but I think that site was showing 'mph' as converted.
@mrcadoia
@mrcadoia 2 месяца назад
ocean currents also influence how many miles travelled.
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 2 месяца назад
@@mrcadoia that's why there are 2 speed measurements: STW (speed through the water) and SOG (speed over ground). in aviation it is even more confusing because air density decreases with altitude, which is why IAS (indicated airspeed), TAS (true airspeed) and GS (ground speed) are all different. it is possible to have less than 300 knots IAS but more than 600 knots GS, with TAS somewhere inbetween
@mrcadoia
@mrcadoia 2 месяца назад
@@mrxmry3264 i didnt know that. interesting. thanks. this is why we let the pro's calculate these things and not youtubers.
@crhkrebs
@crhkrebs 2 месяца назад
@@mrcadoia yep, local weather conditions, wave heights, geographical impediments and, as you say, ocean currents all affect sailing speeds.
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 2 месяца назад
I'd like to take a moment to thank all these flat earthers for going out of their way to demonstrate to us all that the earth is in fact a globe. We salute you.
@jUstSash2207
@jUstSash2207 2 месяца назад
🫡
@Down_is_now_up
@Down_is_now_up 2 месяца назад
I also want to thank them for all the entertainment they give us normal people. And insight into how much it is possible to fail intellectually when you got the wrong mind set.
@RichWoods23
@RichWoods23 2 месяца назад
Maybe we should invite them to stretch their charitable efforts yet further, perhaps with the target of directly raising money for schools by undertaking... oh, I dunno... a sponsored walk to the South Pole.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 2 месяца назад
Flat Earth is the equivalent of trying to kick someone in the arse, but only managing to plant one on your own forehead. Multiple times, and claiming you succeeded.
@wl5420
@wl5420 2 месяца назад
Да 🫡
@bl4cksp1d3r
@bl4cksp1d3r 2 месяца назад
"maps are scaled according to the flat earth, not the globe" ... ehm, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Earth was flat, we didn't have to distort the Map, lol
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
You're correct lol
@K_End
@K_End 2 месяца назад
They should easily be able to give us an accurate map, yet all they have is the Gleason's projection 🤦
@ReValveiT_01
@ReValveiT_01 2 месяца назад
Desk globes debunk FE into the dust. They are the only shape that is linearly scaled. A globe can only scale to a globe.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
@@ReValveiT_01 ain't it grand when a children's toy crushes an idiotic belief?
@ReValveiT_01
@ReValveiT_01 2 месяца назад
@@5peciesunkn0wn It's always fun to watch flerfs run around in circles when I ask them for a scaled flat world map that can be used for the basic task of measuring distances like my desk globe can. The poor mite's get so frustrated.
@claytoncourtney1309
@claytoncourtney1309 2 месяца назад
I find Dave saying being called the best debunker "flattering", very funny. Not because I don't believe it, but because it should be globering and not flattering. You see what I did there. :)
@ReefTheManokit
@ReefTheManokit 2 месяца назад
You have the best comment, here's an award 🏆
@fuery.
@fuery. 2 месяца назад
I CROWN THEE KING OF FATHER HUMOR
@maker0824
@maker0824 2 месяца назад
Exactly what I was thinking about
@Calango741
@Calango741 2 месяца назад
🙃
@chloewright1
@chloewright1 2 месяца назад
😆
@mjjoe76
@mjjoe76 2 месяца назад
How is Jeran still in the flerf community? You’d think other content creators would have labeled him a shill or a mole because he keeps showing the earth isn’t flat.
@zntei2374
@zntei2374 2 месяца назад
I mean, they all do that to some extent.
@wallyman292
@wallyman292 2 месяца назад
World's greatest POE. . . ;)
@itsmeagain7825
@itsmeagain7825 2 месяца назад
Interesting...
@WilliamTaylorIII
@WilliamTaylorIII 2 месяца назад
Now I think Oakley is 100% POE, he has training in acting so he keeps with his Shtick .... brings him a nice income from suckers.
@wallyman292
@wallyman292 2 месяца назад
@@WilliamTaylorIII Exactly. He knew damn well his little experiment on the beach would fail in that doc, and that by failing he'd get the airtime he so craves.
@johnblackmouth
@johnblackmouth Месяц назад
I recently left a flat earther stumped and instead of answering my questions she stated well there’s nothing you can do to change my mind. And walked away. That in a nutshell is their mindset.
@kennydavers3946
@kennydavers3946 Месяц назад
Most people with irrational beliefs that they've invested a lot of years believing in have got the same mindset. I.e. religion, creationism or young earthers
@nedcurfman3486
@nedcurfman3486 Месяц назад
@@kennydavers3946+ diehard sports fans
@aljones75
@aljones75 Месяц назад
You can’t do anything when people are determined to be that ignorant.
@Gedof
@Gedof Месяц назад
it's a good exercise sometimes to pick a belief or opinion you have and think about what evidence would it take for you to change it. If the answer is none, you might have a problem.
@TheSquiggleySpooch
@TheSquiggleySpooch 17 дней назад
really? what did you say?
@synthetic240
@synthetic240 2 месяца назад
You can always be sure that any flat earther claims can be boiled down to: "You're doing it wrong so you can produce the result you wanted."
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
And that's why they never show the math for what they believe (if they could even understand math beyond kindergarten levels) and refuse to tell you what calculators they used to get X result, and instead "Just do your own research!"
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 2 месяца назад
Well, really all conspiracy theory claims, including flat-earth, boil down to "you're being lied to." At the end of the day, that's how they are able to rationalize away any and all evidence to the contrary.
@Kratos-eg7ez
@Kratos-eg7ez 2 месяца назад
They think theyre smarter than steven hawking which was arguably the smartest man in recent history, its not that Surprising they cant do math. I mean seriously, he tried to debunk it using a calculator on the internet that did all the math for him, and he still got it wrong somehow. (Or he intentionally got it wrong, because if he did it right it would prove him wrong. But hey, thats just a wacky conspiracy 😊)
@valuemastery
@valuemastery 2 месяца назад
@@5peciesunkn0wn All calculators are of course infiltrated with NASA code, which modifies them to do calculations in such a way that they always fit a globe, so the "truth" that the earth is flat is hidden. You simply can't trust calculators (and math in general, I'm sure math was invented by a government agency).
@maxdanielj
@maxdanielj 2 месяца назад
​@@5peciesunkn0wn kindergarten would be advanced for some of them
@PaulSchober
@PaulSchober 2 месяца назад
I love how Jeran keeps saying "You're an idiot" or "You're a dumbo", JUST as he's getting everything spectacularly wrong :)
@michaelchance6125
@michaelchance6125 2 месяца назад
People with bad arguments resort to insulting others.
@damaakus
@damaakus 2 месяца назад
That's a flat earther's entire motivation. Every single one of them loves to call others idiots.
@keith726able
@keith726able 2 месяца назад
Typical flerfer.
@andchi2000
@andchi2000 2 месяца назад
What amazes me the most with this flat Earth nonsense is that these people think that every sailor, every pilot, everyone working in aerospace engineering, every physicist, every hobby astronomer, and so many more, are in on this conspiracy. And why? Well, that's never really explained.
@AM-rd9pu
@AM-rd9pu 2 месяца назад
They like to pull the “compartmentalization” card but that leads to some hilarious implications. That means that tons of people are utterly incompetent in their field but what happens when people switch fields. People clearly know how to make buildings, cars, computers, etc. So what happens if one of them goes into aerospace? Or what happens when a supposedly incompetent aerospace engineer leaves for another engineering field?
@magicvide0
@magicvide0 2 месяца назад
@@AM-rd9pu the misunderstanding about all this is that it is not a conspiracy. No one is lying. It’s about no one can prove or have never thought about the shape. It’s about not knowing. Pilot, sailors etc won’t be able to know even if it was a rectangle.
@Aedi
@Aedi 2 месяца назад
also surveyors, a lot of the military (missiles, snipers, etc), the population of the southern hemisphere, a lot of photographers, communications infrastructure engineers. short wave radio operators. theres a lot of jobs and skills that use the curvature of the earth, at some point its such a ridiculous amount of people, more people are going to be "in on it" than not
@magicvide0
@magicvide0 2 месяца назад
@@Aedi no one is in on it. That’s misleading. No one knows and don’t pay attention to it. You have a list, go through that list and start asking people who work in those fields. You are assuming they know anything about the entirety of the shape. Perhaps there is some curvature only because some large land mass is a shape of a mound. The earth is not completely flat. There are areas where it has some “curvature”. But might not be a full spherical shape.
@magicvide0
@magicvide0 2 месяца назад
Sailors would know, physicists wouldn’t know, hobby astronomers wouldn’t know. It about not knowing more than “being in on it”. No one is in on it.
@MrOttopants
@MrOttopants 2 месяца назад
Jeran is trying hard to figure out how to make his channel into a debate channel. He knows Earth isn't flat. He's gotten used to sitting on his butt and getting paid, and doesn't want that to end. Just my opinion.
@sharimeline3077
@sharimeline3077 2 месяца назад
And it's a good opinion.
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 месяца назад
I recall when he filmed the ISS passing in front of the moon. He removed the globe coordinates from the film to avoid doxxing. Nothing you would do if you believed it was flat.
@testep02
@testep02 2 месяца назад
This is true for SO many flat earthers. I can't count how many times (other than in the Behind the Curve documentary) that Mark Sargent has been asked if he would admit the Earth was a globe and give up his role as a leader of flat earth, and he never gives a straight answer. Ever. I don't think Mark was ever a flat earther. He's an attention seeker. He love the notoriety, the money that seems to just keep flowing his way. There's NO WAY he would ever admit that he isn't a real flat earther. And I truly believe the same is true with Jeran.
@sendintheclowns7305
@sendintheclowns7305 2 месяца назад
The ironic thing is that if he did suddenly become honest and admit he was wrong, his channel would actually grow and could become a debate channel. But narcissists never admit they are wrong and all flerfs are narcissists.
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 2 месяца назад
@@sendintheclowns7305 I don't think his fragile ego could cope with the inevitably horrific backlash from the flat earth 'community'.
@jagheterbanan
@jagheterbanan 2 месяца назад
“If you can’t see the implications of this you’re a dumbo” Omg the irony 🤣
@vonwux
@vonwux 2 месяца назад
Jeran seems like a half decent person compared to most of them, so fair play to him. It is quite funny that he has been essentially showing the earth to be spherical since at least the CoolHardLogic days and doesn't show any signs of giving up yet.
@paull8678
@paull8678 2 месяца назад
I agree about him seeming half decent. The only thing that puts me off is when he claims people are stupid for not agreeing with his flawed assumptions.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 2 месяца назад
Oh yeah - do you happen to know what happened to CHL?
@lbernau
@lbernau 2 месяца назад
Oh I miss CHL... He made great videos roasting the Flerfs... He needs to make a comeback.
@mymumbakescakes
@mymumbakescakes 2 месяца назад
Jism
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 2 месяца назад
@@mymumbakescakes cuckoo, cuckoo!
@jkuhl2492
@jkuhl2492 2 месяца назад
Why . . .. why would we need to use the mercator projection at all of the earth was flat? The mercator projection isn't scaled on a flat earth, a flat earth wouldn't need a projection at all.
@dudleyhughbanks9287
@dudleyhughbanks9287 2 месяца назад
Probably because they have nothing else. Don’t they reference the NATO map? Isn’t that also based off a spherical earth projected on a flat surface? 🤣 They try and reinvent the wheel. I think they’re mentally unwell as most in cults are. The similarities are uncanny.
@cosmo9208
@cosmo9208 2 месяца назад
I don't get why are you trying to fool us with this mumbo jumbo. And yeah why do you guys keep on lying about the shape of the Earth? I just don't get it.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
​@@cosmo9208are you saying the Earth is flat? Or a globe and questioning why some Big Scary Shadow Organization is lying about the shape of the Earth?
@cosmo9208
@cosmo9208 2 месяца назад
@@5peciesunkn0wn There's the lying majority, making fun of the truthful minority. But why do you bother?
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
@@cosmo9208 because the lying minority has yet to actually prove anything beyond "hurr durr it lukz flat". No maps, no math, no actual measurements. Just baseless claims and every experiment meant to disprove the globe winds up proving the globe.
@nctpti2073
@nctpti2073 2 месяца назад
He also conveniently is scrolling down over Australia rather than over the Pacific Ocean, where there is no land and no people. Flat Earthers, masters of circular logic!
@jensstalberg8968
@jensstalberg8968 2 месяца назад
And also conveniently avoiding South America where the scale would switch over land, should we guess over Equador...
@nctpti2073
@nctpti2073 2 месяца назад
@@jensstalberg8968 Exactly. And Africa, too
@ExploringNew1
@ExploringNew1 2 месяца назад
I was very confused about the thumbnail. I was like "is Dave a flat earther?"
@GlobeKrusha
@GlobeKrusha 2 месяца назад
Yeap. This is an experiment if he could convince Flat Earthers (as himself being one) that it isn't. I don't know if he was successful in that regards, but he's able to use very convincing/conniving arguements to maintain the Globalist's spells. NASA won't do this because of Liability. So Dave is probably been wagered on for something Globers, would be extremely jealous of, on happenstance he reverts his position.
@midnightninja3268
@midnightninja3268 2 месяца назад
We all are 😂😂
@MintMilk.
@MintMilk. Месяц назад
I didn't know this guy's name is Dave so I assumed we were both thinking of professor Dave.
@sharimeline3077
@sharimeline3077 2 месяца назад
It's so true, the best flat earth debunkers are flat earthers themselves.
@Alex-js5lg
@Alex-js5lg 2 месяца назад
Classy move to apologize and clarify what actually happened with those videos. This flat earth issue exists largely in part due to people refusing to admit they were wrong.
@derekcoaker6579
@derekcoaker6579 2 месяца назад
Yeah for sure, plus the Grifters, I'm not sure which fact holds the blame...being able to Monetize this stuff made it SO much worse ya know?
@bowks1o_o669
@bowks1o_o669 2 месяца назад
Absolutely, and how often do we see Flerfers, despite how many times they are pulled up, continue to take cherry-picked quotes or quotes out of context as their "evidence" for a flat earth? This is where I actually don't mind Jeran, because he is not obnoxious nor does he play the flerf "gotcha" card like the other muppets do.
@andysmith1996
@andysmith1996 2 месяца назад
But Jeran's explanation makes no sense. He said he took the photos, so how could he lose his channel to a false copyright strike from Bart Sibrel? And what were the two other strikes from Sibrel about? Is he saying he stole content from Sibrel twice before?
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 2 месяца назад
@@andysmith1996 You're presuming honesty and accuracy. Those are not abundant traits in the flat earth community; they downright idolize presumptuous persecution and slander. Sibrel is infamous for it, including fraud and wrongful imprisonment.
@TheSteveSteele
@TheSteveSteele 2 месяца назад
It’s kinda funny that one extreme NASA hater filed a copyright strike against another extreme NASA hater. One would think they’d be so infatuated with each other that they’d let anything slide.
@NealVio
@NealVio 23 дня назад
Flat earthers are notorious for proving themselves wrong.
@BerndSchnabl
@BerndSchnabl 2 месяца назад
I wonder how many flat earthers were looking at the solar eclipse on Monday and thinking ...... ...... well ... nothing !
@redditsucksyo
@redditsucksyo 2 месяца назад
Fascinating how the moon wasn't visible before or after the eclipse.
@BerndSchnabl
@BerndSchnabl 2 месяца назад
@@redditsucksyo that's because maybe it wasn't the moon 😂 how comes the appear the same size ? That can't be a coincidence 😂 just asking questions. Do your own research
@ghostlyenigma680
@ghostlyenigma680 2 месяца назад
@@BerndSchnabl The worst part is they never stop to think about how the side facing the earth is the unlit side of the moon during a solar eclipse. 🐱
@TheMisternyan
@TheMisternyan 2 месяца назад
They were definitely thinking: "ow, why do my eyes hurt?"
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 2 месяца назад
Why would the moon be visible before or after the eclipse? It's a new moon? Is the new moon ever visible? NO!
@JohnDlugosz
@JohnDlugosz 2 месяца назад
Tuning in just for the dog. I'm missing mine something terrible.
@sharimeline3077
@sharimeline3077 2 месяца назад
💔
@suzannepottsshorts
@suzannepottsshorts 2 месяца назад
I subscribed for Rusty❤️ I miss my beagles 💔💔
@JohnDlugosz
@JohnDlugosz 2 месяца назад
@@sharimeline3077 Annie: July 20, 2016 - March 25, 2024 Requiescat in Pace, Fidelis Canis 忠诚之伴,愿你灵魂安宁,顺利渡过彼岸。
@DavidSmith-vr1nb
@DavidSmith-vr1nb 2 месяца назад
@DavidSmith-vr1nb
@DavidSmith-vr1nb 2 месяца назад
​@@suzannepottsshorts I subscribed for Dave's photography expertise, I keep coming back for Rusty.
@MysteicVoltronus
@MysteicVoltronus 2 месяца назад
Jeran is the best sleeper agent ever. Can't wait for the full reveal that it was all a 7 year slow science class for Flerfs. Way to go Jeran.
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 2 месяца назад
nah he’s just a grifter, he probably knows it’s not flat. But he’s still an annoying flerf grifter
@SteveLaw-UK
@SteveLaw-UK 2 месяца назад
​@@limitbreak2966he's obviously lying and knows it. Otherwise why would he switch the calculation methods? He's deliberately choosing the wrong one to show that the globe predictions are "wrong". He's not an idiot, he's a liar.
@DanDaMen
@DanDaMen 2 месяца назад
I really like how humbled and polite Dave always is. I wish everyone, flat earther or globe earther, would be like him. Really appreciate the real good content. Always good researched and explained. Thanks 🙏
@Xarou
@Xarou 2 месяца назад
0:17 - One of the best debunkers of flat earth is in fact a flat earther; specifically Jeran. Interesting
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 месяца назад
Don't forget the late Bob "15 degrees per hour drift" Knodel.
@SloverOfTeuth
@SloverOfTeuth 2 месяца назад
I've always felt Jeran is actually one of the smarter flat earthers, his problem is that he never learned to do/accept maths, and his attitude of rejecting knowledge which he perceives as coming from others. If he understood the maths and could do it competently, I think he would quickly accept the globe earth.
@niklbauglir
@niklbauglir 2 месяца назад
@@SloverOfTeuth I think jeran is firmly in grifter territory... he's not a almost-bright-enough-to-see-the-truth flat earther at all.
@GlobeKrusha
@GlobeKrusha 2 месяца назад
Are you for real. That is the most incoherent montage of words, I have seen in this vids threads, so far. Boosta time just for you 🌝
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 месяца назад
@@GlobeKrusha Yes he is for real. You are a flerf. You don't know what is dishonest and what is not, because just as all brainwashed uneducated silly flerfs, you are lying.
@robzilla69
@robzilla69 2 месяца назад
Flat earthers and cultists have one thing in common, they aren't quitters. Even against insurmountable evidence, their pride or programming just won't allow them to change their thinking.
@lovesandservesjesuschrist6752
@lovesandservesjesuschrist6752 2 месяца назад
And the programming is so cunning and deceitful that it gets the individual to blame others for the very thing that the individual is doing themselves. A flat-earther states that all non flat-earthers are brainwashed and prideful - but the truth is the reverse. It's the ability to self-diagnose and to see that error and flaws in oneself that prevents this unhealthily cycle of blaming others for the very evil that one is practicing or promoting - by believing they are doing good.
@keithmurf426
@keithmurf426 2 месяца назад
Better to be in the flat earth cult then the trump cult.
@robzilla69
@robzilla69 2 месяца назад
@@keithmurf426 That is ridiculous, all cults end up in the same place. Eternity in a lake of fire.
@katutubong_nagger
@katutubong_nagger 2 месяца назад
flat earthers has a brain of a primitive cavemen, its underdevelop. 😂
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
​@@keithmurf426both are equally damaging to the intellectual levels of the world. And there's almost a circle of overlap between them.
@ZeroLivesRemain
@ZeroLivesRemain 2 месяца назад
Not even watching before i predict this one... Jeran?
@Baldevi
@Baldevi 2 месяца назад
You're psychic! Or simply well versed in the Flat Earth believers. Jeran has proven the Globe how many times despite his best efforts to prove the Plane?
@ZeroLivesRemain
@ZeroLivesRemain 2 месяца назад
@@Baldevi that's interesting.....
@nathanevans6277
@nathanevans6277 2 месяца назад
Ranty used to hold the crown of most globe proofs by a flatty. He proved the globe so often he proved it to himself and is now a globey.
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 2 месяца назад
Jizzum! To quote CHL.
@ZeroLivesRemain
@ZeroLivesRemain 2 месяца назад
@@dogwalker666 miss me some CHL... may go rewatch those for some laughs.
@Richardj410
@Richardj410 2 месяца назад
A rule for flat earthers, they always prove a globe.
@yoshi314
@yoshi314 2 месяца назад
they just cannot wrap that idea around their heads.
@timolynch149
@timolynch149 2 месяца назад
They also tend to prove hollow head theory.
@MAD_Villain1981
@MAD_Villain1981 2 месяца назад
He didn't prove Jack shi
@Richardj410
@Richardj410 2 месяца назад
@@MAD_Villain1981 Well what do you have for evidence. Like measurements and maybe some physics.
@MAD_Villain1981
@MAD_Villain1981 2 месяца назад
@@Richardj410 my question is why does Nasa fake being in space they have been caught red handed NUMEROUS TIMES
@katutubong_nagger
@katutubong_nagger 2 месяца назад
a FLAT earther using a CURVATURE calculator is non sense.
@kiverix
@kiverix 2 месяца назад
Its like using a penil to draw a circle but the paper is curved and your pencil can't write
@JohnHenrySMH
@JohnHenrySMH 2 месяца назад
My great grandfather was a merchant sailor and later a ships captain. I never met him, but I have read his accounts of sailing cargo from England to Australia and the navigational challenges they faced. He would leave England, sail south then head east, past the Cape of Good Hope, across the Indian Ocean to arrive in South Australia. Then after departing, continue east, across the pacific, past Cape Horn and then turn north for a run up the Atlantic and back home to England. But I guess it was all lies, made up stories to trick us into thinking the earth is a globe. Damn, I never thought my own ancestor would be such a diabolical manipulator.
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 месяца назад
yes, your great-grandfather was cgi, and so, you were never born and do not exist
@andysmith1996
@andysmith1996 2 месяца назад
I personally was on a ship that sailed a similar route. We went from New Zealand across the Pacific, through the Panama Canal, and across the Atlantic to England, and then came back down the coast of Africa, round the Cape of Good Hope, across to Australia, then to New Zealand. I've also flown from New Zealand to Europe and back multiple times. And I can go out and measure that the distance between lines of longitude in New Zealand is smaller than would be the case if the earth were flat but matches the globe predictions. But I guess I'm lying too.
@nimanator
@nimanator 2 месяца назад
Wait, you’re telling me that my flat paper map isn’t a perfect scale model of the earth?
@awatt
@awatt 2 месяца назад
Glue them together and you will end up with a sphere.
@PeerAdder
@PeerAdder 2 месяца назад
@@awatt No, you won't. You'll end up with cuts, creases and distortions. You *cannot* transform a curved surface into a flat one, or vice versa, without cuts, creases and distortions (check out Gauss's Remarkable Theorem for a proof of this). This is why there is no such thing as an accurate flat map of the whole flat earth. This is doubly damning for flerfs. If the earth really was flat then all measurements of the positions of places ever made were made on a flat earth. It would then be child's play to draw an accurate map of the whole flat earth, and impossible to draw one of the whole earth wrapped around a globe (try wrapping a ball in a sheet of paper to see what I mean). Yet no accurate flat earth map exists and we use accurate globe maps for long distance navigation every day and have done so for centuries.
@awatt
@awatt 2 месяца назад
@@PeerAdder Better take that up with MCToon who glued paper flight charts together and ended up with a globe. Globe confirmed 💯🌎
@KeithMilner
@KeithMilner 2 месяца назад
@@awatt yeah, but you can't do that with a typical mercator world map, which is what most people have.
@awatt
@awatt 2 месяца назад
@@KeithMilner I have never owned that sort of map. I have a few road atlases and OS maps that cover most of the country.
@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245
@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 2 месяца назад
I offered Jeran $500 to video himself reading 20 abstracts each from hard copies of the Journal of Astronomy and Astrophysics, and the Journal of Geophysical Research. He agreed live, but hasn't responded since.
@throwawayavclubber7269
@throwawayavclubber7269 2 месяца назад
I'd do that for $500.
@awatt
@awatt 2 месяца назад
Worst only fans site ever.
@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245
@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 2 месяца назад
​@throwawayavclubber7269, but you aren't a flerf🤣
@throwawayavclubber7269
@throwawayavclubber7269 2 месяца назад
@@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 I'll pretend for $500.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
@@awatt "Only Flerfs"
@terranceparsons5185
@terranceparsons5185 2 месяца назад
Just waiting to see what these stoneagers are going to make of this week's eclipse, both the path and this eclipse itself. Witnesed live by hundreds of millions of people, recorded by billions of photos, videos, TV cameras etc.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
these guys are actively dumber than stone agers. Those myths at least recognize the sun and moon have to go *under* the Earth to make sense of how the sun and moon...vanish over the horizon and get cut in half.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 2 месяца назад
And predicted well in advance, with publicly available math based on a globe earth.
@someaccount5200
@someaccount5200 2 месяца назад
​@@darrennew8211I believe the math considers the rotation of the earth, the revolution cycle of the moon, and the revolution cycle of the earth
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 2 месяца назад
@@someaccount5200 Well, yes. Based on the Earth being spherical, amongst other things. :-)
@barthvapour
@barthvapour 2 месяца назад
Amazingly, I have seen quite a few flerfers on social media claiming that the eclipse wasn't even real, and all the millions of people who watched it were somehow tricked by the special glasses they were "told to wear". Really, you couldn't make it up.
@galacticcow38
@galacticcow38 12 дней назад
Glad to know the earth is still a globe!
@sirtalkalotdoolittle
@sirtalkalotdoolittle 2 месяца назад
That we're even having this discussion at this time says a lot about humanity -- and not in a good way.
@niklbauglir
@niklbauglir 2 месяца назад
Yea... it's one of the main things (of many) that makes me dislike society and 'modern times' the most. Question what you've been told? Absolutely. Willfully and blatantly ignore things you can prove yourself if you even attempt to invoke the use of a single brain cell? Despicable.
@asiano3385
@asiano3385 2 месяца назад
And still some people are saying that we are getting smarter every day...
@KarnakActual
@KarnakActual 2 месяца назад
I think it’s one of, although not the main, reason why aliens stay the hell away from us.
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 2 месяца назад
​@@KarnakActualdo you think aliens is more believable than flat earth? Trick question meant to bait people into giving the response "yes". If yes then you don't understand flat earth. Aliens is absurd. Flat Earth is not. The only thing absurd about flat earth is the size of the lie. That's it.
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 2 месяца назад
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I keep wondering what the point of you typing your gibberish might be. The only conclusion I can reach is that you desperately need attention, at any cost.
@thetryingscotsman4065
@thetryingscotsman4065 2 месяца назад
Father Ted springs to mind with him, “OK, one last time. These are small… but the ones out there (points towards the window) are far away. Small… far away… ah forget it!”
@andrewchapman4267
@andrewchapman4267 2 месяца назад
'Nobody thinks the Earth is a rectangle'. That's a bold claim, Dave, when you're talking about Flerfs!
@_John_Sean_Walker
@_John_Sean_Walker 2 месяца назад
Yet no flat earth debunker ever presented even a single piece of evidence that the earth is flat!
@tornagawn
@tornagawn 2 месяца назад
Because…………. 🌎
@MrJustinOtis
@MrJustinOtis 2 месяца назад
Even if you aren't interested in exploring the science, all you have to do is look at the technological innovations. There's a ton of them that wouldn't work if the Earth were truly flat. Now, compare that to how many innovations have come from flat earth believers. There are literally none.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
​@@MrJustinOtisthey're innovating more ways to twist words and reverse their digestive tracts so crap comes out of their mouths. Not to mention all the wild fantasy physics that are perfect for stealing for stories.
@ajm5007
@ajm5007 2 месяца назад
@@MrJustinOtis In fairness, many early discoveries in geometry and astronomy were made by people who believed the earth was flat . . . and then they proceeded to realize that their own geometric and astronomical discoveries PROVED the earth could NOT be flat.
@liftingtheveil8361
@liftingtheveil8361 2 месяца назад
Do you have a camera capable of photographing sun spots? If so I have a challenge for you so that you can see for yourself the evidence that the sun is circling above earth and is not "appearing" to move due to a rotating earth.
@Danger_N00dle
@Danger_N00dle 2 месяца назад
the easiest way to debunk the flat earth is to ask them to draw a model of the earth as seen from the side to scale Then ask for 2 point of view, one person sees a sunset, the other is in the middle of noon. They are unable to do it as putting the sun anywhere above the plane makes it impossible for the sun to set without significant parallax that isn't seen in real life
@michaelchance6125
@michaelchance6125 2 месяца назад
I gotta do that sometime.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
They claim the sun is really stupidly tiny and that's why it doesn't appear to shrink or grow, the glare remains the same size. Completely forgetting about filters and pinhole sunspot watching that let you see the sun without glare lol
@Soul_Watcher
@Soul_Watcher 2 месяца назад
Some Flerfs are actually trying to say they have used solar filters that show the Suns angular changed throughout the day. They will continue to deny each and every observation until there’s nothing left. Just like they had to deny gravity is real because it fully debunked flat earth. Cheers
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 26 дней назад
The easiest way to debunk flat earth is to ask someone how they stand upright. Why do deaf and blind people not fall over? What what are they sensing? They'll just give totally nonsensical answers. It doesn't ever go anywhere. Same thing with the radio horizon, which is another really "DUH" thing.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 25 дней назад
@@bsadewitz They claim that, because we've spent a shitload of time learning how to bounce radiowaves and microwaves off the atmosphere, and can do stuff "line of sight" over the horizon, it means the Earth is flat lol. And yet they can't say what is causing the horizon...
@Thin447Line
@Thin447Line 2 месяца назад
Sabine Hossenfelder has the best flat earth response in my opinion. Without addressing any of the arguments directly she essentially said that among the particular flat earthers that insist they are operating on purely empirical, scientific observations, their claim that the science that proves a globe is not personally verifiable by them directly....there is an intentional cognitive dissonance in ignoring any actual evidence gathered by other people, that refutes their claims. Sabine's excellent analysis concluded thusly: "Flat Earthers will eventually figure out the earth is round. It just might take 1,000 years for them to re-invent modern science to their satisfaction."
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 месяца назад
sabine's words seem great ... except that she completely ignores the fact (fully documented) that ALL flat earthers are crooks, and they are running a FRAUD.
@EBDavis111
@EBDavis111 2 месяца назад
I thought that was one of the worst responses I've ever seen. She's absolutely lying abotu them operating on scientific principles and openly lying them about the globe not being personally verifiable with direct observations. It's like she's selling out science just for clicks and likes. Just like with the nazi transphobia.
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 2 месяца назад
Hossenfelder didn't do herself any favours whatsoever with that poorly thought out excuse for a response. There are plenty of flat earth 'believers' who have tested the science of the globe, repeatedly, and they simply reject the findings. If she'd bothered to address any of their pitiful 'arguments' then she'd have known this.
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 26 дней назад
​@@leftpastsaturn67 Flat earthers, I think, are a heterogenous group, but IMO (and this particular opinion is NOT humble lulz) the typical outspoken RU-vid FEer knows the earth is round. The FE movement isn't about the shape of the earth. They couldn't care less about that. It's a sort of stillborn reactionary populist movement. IMHO one of the primary drivers of it is increasing economic inequality/declining standard of living/falling life expectancy, etc. I hardly ever hear (maybe some have, it's not like I've watched everything) credentialed science content creators even consider this. People don't believe the earth is round because they've done the math and made observations. That is absurd. They (we) believe the earth is round because it's consensus reality. It's just that when people want to fan their plumage on RU-vid, this isn't a very sexy thing to say--especially when you're blasting flat-earthers for lack of scientific discernment. It's possible to REINFORCE that belief with scientific education/investigation/etc. But I'm really tired of people (including many academics who I'm sure know way more philosophy of science than I do) acting as if the problem is that they simply need methodological education. "What shape is the earth" is the sort of question a doctor would ask someone to see if they have dementia. I mean, yeah, some of them probably do earnestly believe it's flat, but I think usually it's far more nuanced than that. Ugh, I'm too burnt out rn to go on. But the gist of it is that she (probably) doesn't even believe the earth is round because she conducted a dispassionate scientific investigation! Did she weight the hypotheses and reserve judgement? No! (This itself is not a criticism btw haha). I enjoy most of her videos tho. But flat earth is about mistrust of the establishment, opportunism, loneliness, etc. Doesn't matter wtf the shape of the earth is. I suspect they pick it because it's FUNDAMENTAL (literally).
@Thin447Line
@Thin447Line 21 день назад
@@leftpastsaturn67 Nope. The cognitive dissonance is all on you. She wasn't trying to address specific flat-earth arguments because they are all categorically, already proven to be absolutely false and ludicrous. Her point was why flat-earthers, in general reject all real scientific evidence that refutes their beliefs, all the while claiming the moral high-ground on so-called "true science." Poorly thought out excuse for a response? I strongly disagree. Her logic was flawless and extremely well thought out and expertly articulated.
@KremitFrogman
@KremitFrogman 2 месяца назад
I wonder how the flat-earthers explain the total solar eclipse, our ability to predict the exact date, time and duration, etc., in a given location.
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer 2 месяца назад
They can't
@draco2k729
@draco2k729 2 месяца назад
they claim its the black sun. You know, that black sun, we always see. Oh... no we dont...
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
"hurr durr we know when it happened in the past and just extrapolate from there" (ignoring the fact that just extrapolating completely misses the fact it is not consistent...)
@draco2k729
@draco2k729 2 месяца назад
@@5peciesunkn0wn the last thing I heard in a debate was, that there is a ~600 year cycle. No evidence given, like usual. But there just can't be a cycle, because the moon gets further away from earth. Total eclipses will get rarer and rarer over the next decades. There is not cycle that could possible explain this, as the distance increase wasnt measureable thousands of years ago.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 2 месяца назад
They say it's actually an invisible globe that's ... blocking the sun.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 месяца назад
Jeranism sounds like something that will clear up after a few rounds of antibiotics.
@thedubwhisperer2157
@thedubwhisperer2157 2 месяца назад
The rouble being, it's very resistant to treatment...
@rr.studios
@rr.studios 2 месяца назад
That would be Jeranitis
@Jedidiah_Martin_2
@Jedidiah_Martin_2 Месяц назад
If only it were that easy.
2 месяца назад
The recent eclipse makes me wonder what model do flatearthers think was used to predict that? And is there any flat Earth model that can be used to predict anything?
@AM-rd9pu
@AM-rd9pu 2 месяца назад
They pretend that the globe model isn’t necessary. They say that it’s a “well known cycle”. This is partly true because you can get approximate dates and locations without using globe math, but you can’t get exact predictions without globe math.
@cosmo9208
@cosmo9208 2 месяца назад
@@AM-rd9pu We don't pretend. It's flat, bro.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
​@@cosmo9208so where is a flat map without any distortion? A Mercator map says Greenland is twice the size of Africa, but oops. It's not. The AE map like the United Nations flag with the North pole in the center says Australia is 3 times wider than it is tall, but oops. It's not. Planes don't fly over the US to go from Australia to Brazil and the flight sure as hell doesn't take twice as long.
@AM-rd9pu
@AM-rd9pu 2 месяца назад
@@cosmo9208 Then how come flat earth can’t do anything that is required of a valid scientific model? Flat earth can’t be used for navigation, it can’t predict anything, and it doesn’t explain the phenomena we see.
@cosmo9208
@cosmo9208 2 месяца назад
@@AM-rd9pu You´re overthinking this
@earendilthemariner5546
@earendilthemariner5546 2 месяца назад
I still can't get over flat earthers spending $20k and proving the earth is a globe
@annarichter484
@annarichter484 2 месяца назад
I love when people actually present arguments against their own case in a discussion. The best is when they finally get it though this can take a while. Thank you for giving props to others 😂
@hopelessnerd6677
@hopelessnerd6677 2 месяца назад
Nothing strange about a flerf proving the globe. There really isn't any other possible outcome.
@gryph01
@gryph01 2 месяца назад
I really wish that flat earthers woild learn how the transportation industey works. Airlines, only fly direct IF it is profitable for them. Otherwise they always pick a profitable route.
@mjjoe76
@mjjoe76 2 месяца назад
Economics is on the (huge) list of things flerfs don’t understand.
@Kualinar
@Kualinar 2 месяца назад
Also, an air line based in the USA or Europe is not allowed to directly connect locations outside their countries. Air France is not allowed to have a direct flight between Montréal and New York. And, that's even if such a flight is very profitable.
@starroger
@starroger 2 месяца назад
Charter flights are not bound by the same economic constraints as airlines. To be sure both have be profitable to stay in business. However, charters can fly from anywhere to anywhere given the limits of aircraft performance and regulations of aviation authorities. I mention all this to remind everyone that there have been pilots who have offered to fly flerfs anywhere they want go to prove their flat Earth theories, if those flerfs come up with the cash to cover the charter expenses. I’ve not heard of any case where this offer was accepted.
@Rob2
@Rob2 2 месяца назад
@@Kualinar I'm sure there are many Air France flights to remote locations that then continue on to a further destination in the same general direction (from France). These would then be "direct flights between those two remote destinations".
@PeerAdder
@PeerAdder 2 месяца назад
@@Rob2 in the same way that flights from the UK to Australia or New Zealand stop-over at intermediate locations. But that's a distraction: the main point is that, where they can (such as not having to avoid restricted air space), they fly great circle routes, and direct flights exist between cities in different parts of the southern hemisphere. Those flights travel the distances corresponding to the true, known locations of those cities, in times consistent with the true, known speeds at which the aircraft can fly, without the aid of ultra high speed winds blowing in both directions simultaneously. Likewise ships travel known routes in known times, and some even race around the world, circumnavigating Antarctica without ever once having to steer in any direction, or cover any distance, or travel at any speed, other than those consistent with a globe. Papa flerfs do it for the money, their followers do it because they don't know any better. They are all an embarrassment to the human race.
@ozthebeeman
@ozthebeeman 12 дней назад
I want to take a second to appreciate the flat earth community. They have provided me with the best and funniest free content I have ever seen. The amount of memes making fun of these unprofessional clowns is Truly unhead of.
@marsa7600
@marsa7600 2 месяца назад
Why there are no flerf sailors?
@niklbauglir
@niklbauglir 2 месяца назад
lost at sea... or the weaponized penguin army got them.
@jeffbeck8993
@jeffbeck8993 2 месяца назад
Sat talking to an older Norweigan guy tonight. He reminded me of the 3 months of dark they have up there. I didn't say anything but I did think about Flerfs. If any of them could point to Norway on an Atlas - or even a Flerf map at that - I'd be surprised. LOL.
@RidgewayMountainhauser
@RidgewayMountainhauser 2 месяца назад
i have some finnish friends that have a place in lapland inside the arctic circle. on the june solstice the whole family gets together and runs naked. interesting family.
@jeffbeck8993
@jeffbeck8993 2 месяца назад
@@RidgewayMountainhauser 😄👍
@jacoblockwood4034
@jacoblockwood4034 23 дня назад
Your outro song just gave me immense nostalgia because I remember using that song for a Scratch game I made with my brother when I was in middle school!
@SpookyBoo-kb9qi
@SpookyBoo-kb9qi 2 месяца назад
I was going to look at the comments on Jeran's video to see how many people put a link to this video in there but he's hidden it for Members Only 🙂
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 2 месяца назад
Interesting...
@Sol.Revolver1966
@Sol.Revolver1966 2 месяца назад
I wanted to go comment on Jeran’s video (and link to this one) but I ran into the members-only wall. He should really stop, he is embarrassing himself.
@africansinclair
@africansinclair 2 месяца назад
I am unable to find a flat earth channel, because all they talk about is the globe!!!!
@galacticcow38
@galacticcow38 12 дней назад
I would be very worried if one of these days the experiments proved a flat earth because that would make me believe the laws of physics have broken down
@PaSistem32
@PaSistem32 9 дней назад
Stay chill, bro, it's not gonna happen for as long as the Universe exists
@shrekkek9396
@shrekkek9396 6 дней назад
​@@PaSistem32 "Local flateather destroyed the universe to prove the flat earth" sounds even scarier.
@x1_n_only_jtm_
@x1_n_only_jtm_ 15 дней назад
At a certain point, these people just "want" to believe the Earth is flat
@ArmTubeYou
@ArmTubeYou 2 месяца назад
Why do the Russians build and maintain 'over the horizon' radar sites? Would they have any use on a flat earth?
@keit99
@keit99 2 месяца назад
To keep up the fake obviously /s
@ste286ste
@ste286ste 2 месяца назад
Because they are controlled by NASA, and it helps perpetuate the lie. NASA controls everything flerfers don't believe in so it would make perfect sense to them.
@PumpkinTed
@PumpkinTed 2 месяца назад
​@@keit99 remove the /s and "obviously* and add alot more passive agressiveness. I know its a joke but atleast try troll better
@diverdannavyvet9672
@diverdannavyvet9672 2 месяца назад
Re: the speed variation Jeran omitted 2 key factors that no skilled navigator would miss. Those would be 'set' and 'drift'. Assuming that for most of the open ocean part of the journey the ship's engine revolutions were more or less constant, wind, tides and current will have effects on the ship's speed and estimates of those effects are taken into account re: ETA.
@betaorionis2164
@betaorionis2164 2 месяца назад
I guess that, like most flatearther priests, he probably was a true believer at the beginning, but at some moment (maybe due to debunkers) he understood flat earth is not possible. But then, he had invested too much on it.
@outtascope
@outtascope Месяц назад
Exactly. It's a phenomenon that's running rampant in society right now, particularly (though not exclusively) in the U.S., requiring one to grant "government" competency levels orders of magnitude greater than has ever been previously demonstrated in order to implement their vast conspiratorial fever dreams. And what's the purpose of the conspiracies? Why to cover-up how incompetent government is, of course. Yeah, that's the U.S.A in 2024. We're all ****ed.
@dancedecker
@dancedecker 2 месяца назад
"Hmmm, interesting"...never gets old. Nor "15 degrees per hour drift." Thanks, Bob ..and Jeren Lol.
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn 2 месяца назад
RIP Bob. Your fifteen degrees per hour of fame will never be forgotten.
@frankdebrouwer-leiden
@frankdebrouwer-leiden 2 месяца назад
I don't think that Jeran is a flat earther anymore. He has moderated several debates very nicely and at times his doubt about the whole flat earth idea shines through. I also think that he is the more intelligent one, I don't see how he can keep up his faith when confronted with all the globe evidence he has witnessed in these debates. I believe that the only reason that he keeps on posting flat earth nonsense is because his livelihood depends on it. Also, he is mocked by some flat earthers now already and will be obliterated by them when he switches sides (see Rachie 0000 among others).
@AT2Productions
@AT2Productions 2 месяца назад
Jeran has in his past lied about motivations, and a leopard doesn’t change their spots. Jeran crowd-sourced for multiple balloon launches, exceeded his goal, and only did one launch then scrubbed it from his channels. If the reason for scrubbing these videos are copyright issues, then is he admitting that he didn’t actually do the work himself? Think rationally about the reasons he gives for these events, no, actually think about it. He’s gotta protect the grift, he’s not pursuing the truth.
@niklbauglir
@niklbauglir 2 месяца назад
yeap. full of manure he is.
@tin2001
@tin2001 2 месяца назад
Copyright strikes could just mean he had some background music or used an online resource from a company that didn't like it. Most likely he used music he didn't have permission to use. Lots of beginners do that, and only find out it's a problem months or years later. Often it's easier to just delete the problem videos if it's not all of them.
@AT2Productions
@AT2Productions 2 месяца назад
@@tin2001 Or, follow me on this one, re-render the video without the offending music. You know, what an honest person would do. Oh, and music use copyright issue copyright claims, not strikes. Copyright claims are nowhere near as severe as strikes and do not require action to be taken.
@kathleenmccrory9883
@kathleenmccrory9883 2 месяца назад
It's a shame for this young man to waste his time on a fantasy. He seems relatively bright. He's not doing his brain any favors by persisting in nonsense.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 2 месяца назад
He makes money.
@SpaceManRD
@SpaceManRD 2 месяца назад
The smarter ones who maintain youtube channels and show up to speak at conventions and in documentaries know it's all bullshit, 100%. It's a grift, and I have zero sympathy.
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 2 месяца назад
Jizzum is a fraud.
@stephenolan5539
@stephenolan5539 2 месяца назад
You need to specify which young man you are talking about. Both sides make posts like yours.
@profphilbell2075
@profphilbell2075 2 месяца назад
It’s how he makes a living.
@silverwriter6739
@silverwriter6739 2 месяца назад
I really appreciate how respectful and honest you are. And how patient. I need to learn to be more like that, myself. Thank you.
@Yumo999
@Yumo999 2 месяца назад
Flatearth is a religion. Any and all proof given to them is simply a test of their faith to them. Its really amusing. Thanks for the laugh Dave 👍😂😂
@moonraker325
@moonraker325 2 месяца назад
Great video How do flat earthers explain the eclipse.?
@mactallica9293
@mactallica9293 2 месяца назад
They're actually now claiming it isn't the moon that's blocking the sun
@victorfinberg8595
@victorfinberg8595 2 месяца назад
flat earthers have 4 levels of 'explanation" for anything 1) IGNORE the thing 2) DENY that the thing exists 3) use WORD SALAD aka GIBBERISH 4) LIE outright
@Chronicle-in8vu
@Chronicle-in8vu 2 месяца назад
Very poorly
@marsa7600
@marsa7600 2 месяца назад
Why flerfs like to talk about subjects they have no idea about?
@capq57
@capq57 2 месяца назад
Because they would have nothing to talk about otherwise, since they have no idea about anything.
@GlobeKrusha
@GlobeKrusha 2 месяца назад
Why do Globelievers sound like psychopathic Mossad u8200 hasbara agents for?
@asiano3385
@asiano3385 2 месяца назад
Do you know how it feels when someone thinks about you that you are onto something and that your "reasoning" makes sense? But the fall is hard.
@GlobeKrusha
@GlobeKrusha 2 месяца назад
Because FEr's are genuine Truthers, whereas you guys believe there are no paedos anywhere in the upper echelons of society, where in fact that's where the sickest of them all are concentrated 🙎🏼
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 2 месяца назад
@@GlobeKrusha As weak trolling goes, you're in the running for the 'weakest and most desperate/obvious' trophy.
@MissionControl-dk
@MissionControl-dk 2 месяца назад
This video is the kind that just makes your chuckle silently in your head.
@puppiesarepower3682
@puppiesarepower3682 3 дня назад
I stumbled onto your channel from Science Man Dan. You are pretty clear, and you bring arguments onto the table in such a way that are easy to grasp. I also love how you give the Flat Earthers the benefit of doubt and use their own numerous models and theories against their arguments. I'm subscribed 👍
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 2 месяца назад
Flat Earthers have probably proven the globe earth more then any actual Globe Earthers. That's just impressive.
@GlobeKrusha
@GlobeKrusha 2 месяца назад
No we haven't. We have demonstrated how your shyte doesn't work in reality. Just wait and hold yourselves content, when the big reveal will happen. If it happens only in TelAvivZion it confirms it not to be true.
@probablynotmyname8521
@probablynotmyname8521 2 месяца назад
Jerans problem has always been that he rushes to an answer that he wants rather than actually letting the evidence lead him to an answer.
@Slicerwizard
@Slicerwizard 2 месяца назад
Because he's dishonest. He's not really interested in knowing/showing the truth.
@dragonhearthx8369
@dragonhearthx8369 23 часа назад
I love how youtube puts in a disclaimer in support to flat earth.
@akmi1931
@akmi1931 2 месяца назад
Jeran is the most cleverest Globe Earther ever. He has convinced the entire Flat Earth community into thinking he’s one of them. And they’ll die before they’ll be convinced otherwise
@terranceparsons5185
@terranceparsons5185 2 месяца назад
I assume everbody heard ship measuring matey asking all us "geniuses" to prove him wrong? Job done!
@jeremysmetana8583
@jeremysmetana8583 15 часов назад
"If you're smart, like I am, you'll admit I'm right." Greatest argument, ever.
@user-iv9fg3me1q
@user-iv9fg3me1q 2 месяца назад
Sunset - the moment when sun goes below horizon and destroy flat earth theory
@theglitch312
@theglitch312 13 дней назад
They’ll always have an ‘explanation’ because they’re not bound by the rules of physics. Gravity? Oh that’s just continuous acceleration at 9.81m/s^2. Where does that energy or thrust come from? No idea. It just ‘works’. Sunsets? Probably an optical illusions. Shadows on a flat plane with a luminous orb magically suspended which _should_ illuminate the entire Earth plane at once? Meh I don’t know it just happens that way. The sun orbiting nothing just above a flat plane? What’s an orbit? I don’t understand why that should matter and won’t listen to it because the ‘globe’ model of spacetime is a lie! A midnight sun happening at the same time as eternal darkness at each end of the poles switching at predictable intervals? Lies by [insert big globe controlled government agency here]! No one is allowed to travel to the poles and all the video evidence is faked.
@parkinson1963
@parkinson1963 2 месяца назад
Jeran is where flerf rule 5 comes from All real world observations made by flerfs confirm the earth is a sphere.
@302ci1968
@302ci1968 2 месяца назад
Jaren litteraly says the scale is in reference to the pointer... and, while keeping the pointer at the same spot on earth, drags the map south and says the scale changes (because it indeed changes). He didn't even realize (or check) what was the scale refering to. Thank You Dave, thas a great video. Said otherwise, Jeran (or Jaren?) is on par with my ex-wife as far as map reading is concerned. You go to Paris and end up on Omaha Beach... Other than that, Jaren seems too smart and willing to remain a flat earther. He should soon accept the 4-0 he gave to the globe. Because HE was brave enough to try the experiments. Good for him.
@braeburnhilliard8340
@braeburnhilliard8340 2 месяца назад
Dave, I just want you to know that I would have liked you as the single most effective Flat Earth debunker ever! You have a great Channel and I think many of us love seeing your dog!
@Simon_PieMan
@Simon_PieMan 2 месяца назад
Great video. Thanks for putting in the effort.
@eewweeppkk
@eewweeppkk 2 месяца назад
I'm surprised you didn't highlight the fact that he said 'If I captured the ISS I wouldn't have uploaded it and taken it down, I just never would have posted it!' I know it may seem obvious, but its always nice to have actual direct evidence from their mouths that they don't care about the evidence or reality - he admitted that if he had evidence for a globe he wouldn't share it.
@triplecrowk.2446
@triplecrowk.2446 2 месяца назад
Toon’s Laws of Flerf: #1 - Flerf citations always contradict the flerf’s claim. No exceptions.
@Axel_Andersen
@Axel_Andersen 2 месяца назад
The last map scale exercise: when he shows quarter of the planet at once how can he think that the scale would apply all over it???
@niklbauglir
@niklbauglir 2 месяца назад
which is why it's gotta be grifting... there is no way they can be that dumb repeatedly for years and not figure /something/ out...
@kangjohan78
@kangjohan78 2 месяца назад
6:15 "... cause all they did was make their result match what they thought they should be...." Ironically enough, this is what those Flerfs do.
@davejohns6694
@davejohns6694 2 месяца назад
As a ex missile technician I wonder why we put the curvature of the planet into our trajectory calculations if it is flat? 🤔
@thedubwhisperer2157
@thedubwhisperer2157 2 месяца назад
All part of the conspiracy, no doubt...
@RidgewayMountainhauser
@RidgewayMountainhauser 2 месяца назад
inflight missile repair?
@K_End
@K_End 2 месяца назад
Even the missiles are brainwashed globetards 😉
@tek512
@tek512 2 месяца назад
The best debunker of flat earth is the Earth. >.>
@ILostMyMainLol
@ILostMyMainLol 2 месяца назад
(Reffering to the window frame one) This man clearly hasn't heard of eyes interacting with glasses before
@delta-sev4467
@delta-sev4467 20 дней назад
You and Sciman Dan are my top 2 goto for Flat Earth debunkers, keep it up 👍🏻👍🏻
@CChrisHolmes
@CChrisHolmes 2 месяца назад
Where are all these flat earth live streams? Hidden behind curve?
@XDR2201
@XDR2201 2 месяца назад
Even if you get these flat earthers on the ISS, they would still say the earth is flat. Why? Because of ego. They won’t accept that they are wrong.
@redditsucksyo
@redditsucksyo 2 месяца назад
The ISS is in Texas.
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 2 месяца назад
@@redditsucksyo Your self esteem is lost to history. See also: your spine.
@jimmymcjimmy9743
@jimmymcjimmy9743 2 месяца назад
@@redditsucksyo No No - those are Moo cows ..... or maybe a load of Bullocks
@EBDavis111
@EBDavis111 2 месяца назад
@@redditsucksyo When you go outside at night and look up, do you see Texas? Because I see the ISS.
@redditsucksyo
@redditsucksyo 2 месяца назад
@@EBDavis111 Stop pretending like they don't have a "model" that is exactly like what they claim is up there. Space is fake and gay.
@muskyoxes
@muskyoxes 2 месяца назад
Sounds like Jeran has all the information and willpower he needs to finally make a flat earth map with a scale on it
@RedstoneNinja99
@RedstoneNinja99 2 месяца назад
I do believe youre the best flat earth debunker posting atm your videos always explain conplicated things like refraction with such ease and brevity
@MrOttopants
@MrOttopants 2 месяца назад
"Enrique? Enrique?"
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 2 месяца назад
1:35
@ntdscherer
@ntdscherer 2 месяца назад
Wow, thinking the map scale was for the part of the map under the map scale... I'm speechless.
@No_True_Scotsman
@No_True_Scotsman 2 месяца назад
I think this is the first time I've ever seen that clip of the guy holding the light without the Curb Your Enthusiasm music
@tiagdvideo
@tiagdvideo 2 месяца назад
Another outstanding analysis - will be "interesting" to see Jeran's response when he realises his mistakes.
@Hamphield
@Hamphield Месяц назад
Sorry, but if someone thinks the earth is flat, deserves no respect
@Unethical.Dodgson
@Unethical.Dodgson 2 месяца назад
"I don't hate Jeran" I don't think it would be reasonable for a mentally able human being to hate a worm with neuron decay.
@Mia-bixoxo
@Mia-bixoxo 2 месяца назад
Tuning in just for the dog. I'm missing mine something terrible
@Redslayer86
@Redslayer86 Месяц назад
Now I'm curious why ships go through narrow passages at the tip of south America instead of going around
@mimizoni1
@mimizoni1 10 дней назад
That part is called the drake passage and the waters are very turbulsnt therefor it's safer and more cost-effective to not go there en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_Passage
@DeaunaS
@DeaunaS 2 месяца назад
Jeran also misses the fact that Antarctica, according to most flerf’s, a wall around the outer edge of the flat earth with a wall of ice Not a continent as shown on the globe Am I missing something? 🤷🏼‍♀️😂🤣 We are a globe 😁🌏🌍🌎
@oberonpanopticon
@oberonpanopticon 2 месяца назад
Fun fact The ice wall thing was started by nazis. They also invented ancient aliens and some other thing I forgot.
@JohnnysCafe_
@JohnnysCafe_ 2 месяца назад
The best flat Earth debunker is Jeran 😂😂😂
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris 2 месяца назад
Interesting.....
@nunya_bizniz
@nunya_bizniz 2 месяца назад
Interesting
@chinookmudpie3301
@chinookmudpie3301 Месяц назад
Hi- I’ve been a flat earther for two years. And I must say that your videos are causing me to reconsider everything………. Seriously. I appreciate your kind tone and taking the time to do the math to properly explain things. I don’t believe flat earthers are idiots- some are intelligent people that just don’t trust anyone- they’re paranoid. Anyhow I’m going to keep watching your videos as they are the first ones I’ve come across that seriously caused me to reconsider my ideas about the world.
@chinookmudpie3301
@chinookmudpie3301 Месяц назад
But @DaveMacKeegan - as I reconsider everything I must ask you if you’re a Freemason?? I know this sounds crazy but I’m seriously asking you!!
@titan9259
@titan9259 Месяц назад
Flerfs are crooks.
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 Месяц назад
@@chinookmudpie3301 "I know this sounds crazy..." That's because it is. It's also utterly irrelevant and beyond childish to think it means anything even if he was.
@Entomology314
@Entomology314 Месяц назад
As a physics major, I completely agree. Physics is not easy, and it disappoints me to see people labeled as idiots for common misconceptions. The ability to let go of an idea you believe in is very difficult, ESPECIALLY when it comes to conspiracy theories. So it makes total sense why someone would believe even the goofiest aspects of flat earth if they already agree with the main premise. It is easy to fall for conspiracies but it is not easy to let them go. Congratulations for escaping.
@chinookmudpie3301
@chinookmudpie3301 Месяц назад
@@leftpastsaturn67 I know. But the fact is that flat earthism is based on the idea that Freemasons want to hide the true shape of the earth. Seriously that’s what they believe….. so I had to ask lol. And I am curious to know anyways.
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