Shingeki no Kyojin newest episode english subtitle Floch Forster gives last breath to stop the alliance by shooting the plane. #attackontitan #erenyeager #leviackerman
50, maybe 100 years at best in the original manga. The anime shows a cyberpunk city, whereas the manga shows modern skyscrapers. The cringevengers probably die of old age beforehand, but their children and grandchildren get carpet bombed.
@@Conan_the_Based That's interesting around 50 years the 20% who survived the rumbling manage to build and regained their power back. The ending literally become a Post Apocalyptic which is make sense. Though.. is kinda interesting to see a titan power again in that era of the cycle continue again.
The plot armor is insane, all the Jaegerists with anti titan weapons were wiped out by this tiny group without any casulties last season. Magath & Kieth died on their own terms smiling, in other words they were never under any real pressure.
@@jyotirani8187 I stop you there. On the contrary, I always thought that there was an air of Erwin in Armin, not only physically but also as a strategist and in his ability to quickly divine and understand his enemy's plans. For example, I could tell you about the time when the exploration battalion was looking for Bertolt and Reiner on the run, it was Armin who had asked the troops to search the walls. They didn't understand why he asked them that but it seemed like Erwin thought Armin's plan was a good idea and right after it turns out that Armin was right. In the video showing this scene I had also seen a comment saying that Erwin and Armin were like father and son lol. It was also because of Armin if they managed to find that Annie was hiding behind the Female Titan. I can also mention the moment Armin made a plan to defeat Bertolt and his colossal titan when Jean thought they were all finished. Moreover, before saying farewell, when Hange named him Commandant, she spoke of the quality of commandant that is a mindset of continuously pursuing understanding, and that Armin was the most suitable person for this role. I'm sure these are the reasons the author replaced Erwin with Armin.
@@alpha-sama1 out of hundreds??? That's no plot armor. Otherwise Erwin, marlo and most of the charge would've survived I think the only one who had plot armor was levi but is understandable...Isayama wife loved him and she said Isayama she would be mad if he killed him.
Honestly he technically should have won . The only thing that saved them was falco’s deus ex machina of becoming a flying titan on top of a jaw titan .
@@denyoellamcy8251 no amount of determination can save you from getting blown up behind a shifter or getting shot in the arm then holding onto to a boat WHILE DROWNING AND BLEEDING OUT of the determination was in aot Sasha wouldn’t have died but guess what she did theirfore meaning PLOT ARMOR stop glazing flock when he had more plot armor then Sasha
@@krag3405 True, though there was only like a handful of shots, and like 3 of them hit pretty close together on the fuel tank, looks like he fired wildly to send them running for cover then put a few good shots into the fuel tank.
@@thescruffinator8830nah floch is too metal for that. even hange says "don't tell me you clung to the ship all the way here." and he comes into frame drenched too
At first i totally hated Floch. But then I understood he was only doing what he believed was right to protect paradise. He knew Eren killing the entire world would be a devil's doing, but if it mean saving eldians so be it.
Dude is a facist warcriminal, willing to kill his own people to save ... who? Himself? In the end he was just too stubborn and brainwashed to realize the errors of his ways
@@cheese4825 But why? In the end he was completely right and Paradis was wiped off the face of the Earth in under 100 years. All because they stopped the Rumbling.
@@cheese4825 Fair enough. I found him to be as arrogant as any of the main cast who were equally willy nilly with laws and rules while also making sweeping decisions for the entire island without care of what the citizens wanted. The Yaegerists made up a majority of the military by the end and even the civilians supported them, especially after Eren's announcement on Rumble Radio.
I would like to think that if eren manages to eradicate all humanity out of paradise, they would end up destroying each other due to political differences (jagerist vs non-jagerist), the war in the world of AoT will never disappear, the destruction of eldia is inevitable.
@@sevynni Do you want to die when you're tired? Hange in the manga seemed to use it as a excuse to kill herself, they did her death in the anime so much better But i can't help but think what else she could've done, had it not been for Floch's stupid ass showing up here, y'know? Lol
He stills care about Floch. That was his comrade, regardless of their current disagreement. In fact, Jean seemed closer to Floch than all of the other Alliance members.
@@saltator8565floch and jean are really similar, they join the military for selfish reasons. If jean had not cared about his friends so much he would've stayed in the wall. Their character developed when they experiencing the fear of titan for the first time that's why i dont understand why some people like jean but hate floch, maybe just because he's against their favorite characters.
Well Jean actually agreed with Floch and Eren until Hange used talk no jutsu. Only thing he didn't like was Floch executing people who disagreed with him, as it was completely unnecessary
what a fucking gigachad, he hung on the ship all the way to another country and almost ruined the whole operation hes like that one experienced player on a team of noobs
Bro had a bullet wound too, his unwavering determination and willpower for his people and what he believed was right is admirable, regardless of whether or not you agree with him.
FLOCH was rebelling 'against this cruel world' or in this case 'against the MCs' who are not afraid to die because they are main characters and superheroes with the biggest plot armor ever, Floch represents the people you don't know, the cannon fodder, and he had the courage to rebel and give his heart for the cause even when he knew it would cost him all.
Floch Is literally the character with most plot armor: he somehow survived to Erwin survival charge, he somehow survived during the start of the rumbling falling from the walls while They were crumbling, he somehow survived for hours in the water with a giant wound on His shoulder...please😂
Yeah the plot armor was so big, paradis and the entire world died anyways. I wonder how mentaly detached humans have become from their surroundings, but you never fail to amaze me.
and if they hadnt let the rumbling do that, only paradis would be alive and humanity would fucking die out due to the mass genocide that yall tryna defend
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "at peace"!!! Sure, cause there NEVER was a conflict inside the walls. With trigger happy fanatics in charge there will ALWAYS TILL THE END OF TIME be peace.
@@lookbehindyou852 tfw the Yeagerists conducting the rumbling are supposed to be an allegory for fascist/communist led genocides. Also tfw the entire point of this arc was to show neither side was in the right and were in fact wrong.
Except the poison, the bomb, the shooting and the complicity in titan squashing all children of the world. But hey, if it was "for the Empire!" I quess it was anything but wrong.
@@ignacioruiz-retegui6196 Bruh literally no one in the world did give a fuck about what was going on on paradis island while eldians were getting eaten by titans that the marleyans sent, in the manga it is also said that Liberio is the only place where eldians were not totally exterminated just because they consider them as a weapon because of the titan shifters So basically the WHOLE WORLD contributed making the massacre by killing eldians directly or by letting marleyans and other nations do so By seeing how many people got killed by titans (or by the warriors that MARLEY sent) in s1 to s3 just because the world considered them by prior as devils makes me think that Floch was fucking right and the world did deserve the rumbling
@@albertodeho3934 Well, I always blame King Karl Fritz for that, of course people who cared about the Eldians would feel nothing but fear and hatred for what the islanders did and the Eldians who didn't escape became slaves for that, so I get their distancing (hate for being abandoned or for of survival reasons). Just cause "literally no one in the world" cared (which is not true, the volunteers and azumabito helped) doesn't mean there are no innocents for their suffering. There are people guilty of taking revenge on Eldia too far, but if they force people to grow hating or ignoring what is going on, how can you say all children, animals, landscapes, cultures and people who don't know about them deserve death (and in that way)?
Man i love Floch, i don't agree with him but he's so perfectly written for his purpose, its as if not a single line about him was wasted at any moment in the story
Facts, unlike the people who seem to unironically support genocide and ignore the obvious message about the Yeagirists, I love Floch. One of the best-written characters in AoT.
@@UmQasaannAfter centuries,and they probably forgot what the rumbling was,and Eldians would have started killing themselves of no one else was left in the world.
@@UmQasaann Learn to read,I wrote a hypotetical situation in which Paradis would be starting a civil war no matter what,not that Paradis nuked itself. And the curse of Ymir ended,Lmao what You're even saying. Go cry again because of your beloved Führer Floch's death and cope harder,womp womp.
Floch and Paradise Island deserved to win tbh. They weren't the ones hellbent on complete eradication of their enemies only for shit their ancestors did.
@@BigBossIvan Thats not dropping balls lol. Thats just how story is supposed to be. Rumbling was portrayed as ultimate evilness all our main characters need to stop. If isayama let eren go full genocide, whats even the point of story lol.
@Jake Oriental But he did? Eren technically won, he got world reset he wanted and his friends are safe. Clearly his methods, while horrid, were the most effective.
the script for the fourth season is simply terrible, they demonized the yeagerists as if they were worse than anything marley has ever done against paradis, so in the end they just throw everything up and show that the yagerists were right, the cycle of hate continues thanks to alliance, all this fight made no sense, the sacrifices were useless, armin's pathetic speech was worth absolutely nothing in the end.
That's the point, it's realistic Why would war stop because of the rumbling being stopped? you would still be called villains. People still hated Eldians, In the end Yeagerist were legit just right.
@@xenogaming9600 my point is that the alliance never thought about such a stupidly obvious thing, they killed eren without thinking about the future consequences for Paradis, they completely trusted other unknown nations, and only thought of people they didn't even know and had no connection with, and it all ended up in Paradis being bombed
"They demonized them". Well duh, they want to help and let Eren destroy the world (people and landscape) and wipe out whoever doesn't bow to them. I mean, compared to Marley, they aren't saints and no one in-story says Marley is good either (even Magath, the only true Marleyan of the group, didn't like it).
@@ignacioruiz-retegui6196 not exactly, there's not a good and a bad in this story, kill or be killed, fight for survival, that's what it's about, it's all humans fighting for their lives, both Paradis and marley, but the script totally insinuated that the yeagerists are ruthless freaks who care about nothing but killing as many people as possible for no reason, while marley is the savior of the world and all her sins are fully justifiable and will be abolished, the island of paradis suffered for the sins of her ancestors, marley is suffering from present day actions, there is no sense at all for the yeagerists and paradis characters (connie, armin, jean, mikasa, hange, keith) to want to stop eren, sounds like "genocide is wrong so let's go to do genocide against our own people to save the world that hates us, that we don't know their intentions and that will probably kill us the first chance they get because genocide is wrong"
"The most precious possession you have in this world is your own people. And for this people, and for the sake of this people, we will struggle and fight, and never slacken, never tire, never lose courage, and never lose faith." - Floch Forster His spirit shall rise from the grave and the world will know he was right.
I grew from loving mikasa to hating her and armin and the rest of them, imagine killing your friend who tried to save you and your country just to try to be heroes and in the end everybody who sacrificed was killed just for you to live happy live and the island still got restocked by the people you were saving
I think a lot of people misconceptualize the main point of this, it was war the world against the island, Eren isn't just some BAD guy that got up one day and said, I wanna kill everyone the world attacked them and they fought back simply as that, so yeah I'm on team 'genocide'
@@joer626I agree with him, Eren simply retaliated against the World, who was the enemy, Eren was simply right, the only way they could be free and happy was if they destroyed the rest of the world, negotiating with the rest of the world was impossible even before Eren's attack on Liberio, as the Yeagerists and even Hangi herself concluded, so the only option left was to just destroy the world
Floch: "Please...Don't Do it...Everyone on the island will die... for what did we fought for the past Years?" Hange: "I know that you are in right...but i'll risk trying to trust a humanity that in it's history only had pretests for making wars and killing people....for sure they are not going to kill us in the future..." Floch: "This....isn't betrayal....this is.....Madneeeessss...." Floch: X__X
@Nkai2 Attack on Titan is now a comedy show after Paradis later gets genocided by the outside world, lunching nuclear weapons on Eren's hometown. Lmfao
Eren used Floch as his own personal bitch so he could do his 80% Plan and give Mikasa and Armin the life they deserved. I don't think Mikasa is jealous.
@@abhishekbajpai-sc8oeYeah like in 20000 years later. And no body said the rest of the world survived by that point. The epilogue implies the whole was nuked.
Damn. After finishing the anime Floch was really right in the end paradis was destroyed and erens friends was really just prolonging the inevitable their grandchildren mustve been dead after the world nuked the paradis, guess they only wished for their safety and not for the future🤷
That shit happened so far into the future bro. They had sky scrapers and helicopters. The point is that conflict is apart of human nature. It was bound to happen, eren Just wanted his friends and people to be left alone.
@@Astarrrrror its the proof you don't have any so you shut up ! Armine and a fool and he was wrong, Eldien was destroyed because of his buffoons. If he had succeeded he would have saved Eldien Armine is a fool !
@@gatesoflodore50-100 years my ass. The song playing over it is called “To you 2000…or 20,000 years in the future.” Plus, there’s no fucking way they’d reach that borderline cyberpunk cityscape level of technology in under a century.
Floch the only one who thinks straight in the full series xD all others is just nonesense why they are now allied with the ones who killed them all this time against his all time friend just wtf
@@ignacioruiz-retegui6196 how do i explain in simple words... Lets say your whole Life was literally be afraid of being eaten alive by a titan, you find out those titans started killing because 3 idiots destroyed a wall because hundreds of km away there's a continent that thinks you are evil and demons, now one of your friends have the habilites to destroy em all and you would ally with the ones that fucked up your life instead of fixing your fucking island from the damage? Is lore nonsense
Part 4 when you see what happens to Paradis because of Cuckmin and his merry band of Uncle Toms will be satisfying. Floch and Eren's choices will be proven to be correct. The Eldian race has the right to exist and fight back.
Unfortunately the anime ending made it seem like Paradis was destroyed in some far distant future, and not just a few years after the rumbling like the manga version. Normies didn't get the message.
You’ve lived your whole life under fear and terror of gigantic monsters. You’ve seen your friends and family being eaten by these creatures. All this time you’ve lived under the lie that this was the world, and there was nothing else to it. Just to realize that everything was caused due to some racist nations who kept throwing unprovoked attacks to your unaware country. Yeah i would have reacted the exact same way Eren did.
The ending showed that Floch was right from the start. In fact, watching this anime was a wonderful experience for me. When I watched the anime for the first time, I didn’t even notice Floch at first. A little later he began to irritate me, then I sincerely considered him a psychotic radical (he has the makings), but now... And now I sincerely consider him one of the most interesting characters in season 4. He did more for the plot in a few episodes than Mikasa did with her snotty scarf in the entire series. Floch went through hell, he had motivation, his views were built on the bones of friends, he became a radical, but at the same time he loved his country and his people. The funny thing is that there were no other people like this in Attack on Titan. The same Eren fought not for the people, but for several friends. Next comes Historia, who accepted the motivation to fight, but unfortunately Isayama simply “threw her out” of the plot, although she had enough ideological inclinations, and her special connection with Eren has not gone away... Well, all the other friends ended up being traitors , who put a bullet into their comrades, and in fact were guilty of the extermination of their own descendants in the distant future.
@@18yearoldcelYou can't expect peace after destroying 80 percent of the world, those who lost their families and friends will want revenge, just like Hannibal who wanted to destroy Rome.
he mostly just hid behind others tho. did we see him killing any of the titans that killed his comrade louise? no, that was keith shadis, who flotch had beat up just to 'prove a point'. did he take on the cart titan after it 'killed' jean? no, he tried to ask mikasa to kill it. he hid on the other side of the wall when his squad was fighting the cart titan atop the wall. he jumped off his horse when the other recruits were charging the beast titan. he didn't care about helping the scouts until after the revolution when they were the most respected group. he didn't care about helping eren until he realized eren was really powerful and flotch could gain power by sucking up to him. floch is just a coward and a social climber.
But he didn't actually change Eren's plan either way, it would've happened regardless. He also didn't stop the main characters here, they went on to fight Eren. Also after the rumbling does in fact destroy most of the world, Eldians still manage to fight with themselves in the future lol. You uh... didn't actually finish the show, huh?
@@onyourself3369 he couldn't change it because everything was planned Floch is a hero for paradise not because he changed things, he failed yes, but he did everything he could do to save Eldia and Paradise he was willing to sacrifice the entire world, himself, his comrades and everyone for Eldia, even after he was shot and fell in the sea, he did clung to the ship for a really long time to stop them also, how are you so sure that eldians of paradise fought each other? actually they all united after Floch's and Eren's death they got destroyed however by their real enemy, the entire world, peace was never an option the ones who really doomed paradise are the traitors, mikasa and armin, jean and connie not only they killed a lot of their comrades and fellows, they saved the outside world knowing that paradise would be destroyed in the future
@@Omar-um4nnEXACTLY! They never cared about saving paradis. They just wanted to see the outside world and forget all about the wars Marley started. Paradis became doomed.😭
Eren and Floch are the ones I truly support. Zeke was just a prideless bastard who wanted to "peacefully and indirectly" execute his own people simply because the world wanted it. In other words he was still unconsciously loyal to Marley. The Eldians from the alliance simply wanted to save the world who wanted to execute them even if it means all their people in their home would die as a result of their interference. Eren and Floch are true patriots who love their home and their people.
Zeke is doing it for the sake of tom ksaver and end the world hatred. Which I understand him alot Yeah true patriots for being genocidal killing the entire earth's human population childrens and family
@gokulrajv I know about the devastation that happens far far into the future, but there's no telling when that happens because the island was completely modernized even farther than the mainland was beforehand
@basedneutral1173 the alliance was literally massing in Marley to wipe out Paradis. Hange, Armin, Mikasa, Jean, Connie, and everyone else allied with them to try to stop the rumbling. They had no real reason to fight and nothing would go their way even if they won because if they win the alliance will just annihilate their home and all their people.
Although Floch was a coward at the start but at last he was one of the bravest people in all of anime and he was the legit successor of erwin . look at armin that traitor was given life instead of erwin the guy who faced death for his country with no emotions and armin that useless weakling guy ain't doing shit but focusin on his one sided crush on that annie who killed his comrade so yeah armin legit sucks so hard he is the one i hate most in aot after that gabi of course
Sorry Floch, the hero of Eldians and bravest of all Yeagerists. You were worshipping a dumbass clown for too long and so you succumbed to death. Your intentions were right, although chaotic, but you shall be remembered as the greatest martyr after Erwin
Can't stress enough on just how much I hate the alliance. The fact that Hanji is acknowledging Floch's words yet she's willing to GAMBLE the fate of Paradise for the people who genocided then is actually insane. Erwin also used to gamble with his plans but he did it for the truth and for the sake of his people. Erwin would never agree with the alliance.
@@t.giray28Erwin died dreaming that people really did exist in the outside world. Why would he ever want the entire outside world to suddenly be erased and his dream to retroactively be destroyed after he fought so hard to see it?
@@t.giray28 Erwin has been willing to gamble away as many lives as it takes to achieve his goals. If his goal is to “save humanity”, he will still risk Paradisian lives, just as he did when he thought they were all that remained of his species and therefore LESS expendable. The Jaegerist’s plan is the opposite. It’s a safe, risk-free venture, because the alternatives are too difficult. Literally the inverse of Erwin’s mindset.
Hypocrisy-the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform Go read a dictionary. If anything, Floch and Eren are the true hypocrites. You can't initially stand against the genocide of your own people and then actively root for the genocide of others, even if it's the only solution you can think of, even if it concerns people close to you. Because you're going against what you believe just because of personal bias. "Rules for thee, but not for me"
@@willisstillhere8846 nah eren belief before becoming a cuck is everybody can try to take my freedom. Then i also can take yours. That's why he didn't stop his friend beside being a god. The Alliance was made of people who thought that Eren was wrong ( wich on a moralistic standpoint he his but not in a tactical sense ) and tried to stop him with the vague idea of doing the right thing. Wich it was barely grounded on some idea made by armin and they ended working with people who actively wanted their genocide and who in the manga got their genocide like 100 year latter by bombing the shit out of paradis
@@willisstillhere8846 That would be the case if there WAS a better option than the Rumbling, but there was none. Floch and Eren doesn’t want to kill 80% of humanity as much as anyone, but they had not choice.
@@willisstillhere8846 "You can't initially stand against the genocide of your own people and then actively root for the genocide of others". Yes... you can? They wanted to genocide his people. So he was going to genocide theirs. There is literally NO incosistency there. That's like saying "You can't be against a mugger in the street killing you if you kill him to defend yourself. You would be a hypocrite, murder is murder, so simply let him kill you".
@@willisstillhere8846 Ah, you're one of those people, are you? No solutions. Just moral grandstanding, thinking you're virtuous when you're actually just a mark. Literally the entire world declared war on Paradis at Willy Tybur's confab. Eren even waited until after the formal declaration before transforming and starting the violence. It would've been nice if they could have hashed it out with soldiers vs soldiers, followed by a peace treaty, but Paradis never had that option. It was either use the Rumbling, or get massacred because everyone else's irrational hatred would accept no other outcome.
Seriously, the best character in the series. Meanwhile all of the main cast were doing the whole, "I know everyone going to die if I do this.... but plot... and plot says I have to and I lose my plot armor if I don't."
@@cheese4825 Next you're going to tell me that Robin is Batman's "meat rider" or that the justice league were simps for Superman. You realize when the entire plot revolves around a character with immense power, it would be weird for the side characters not to notice. Guess that also makes Erwin a meat rider for constantly saying that the missions depend on Erin because they did.
This genuinely feels like a side character rebelling against the story itself in a way; like there's absolutely zero chance Floch ever would have won in any capacity, yet he kept fighting and raging and pushing until he was dead.
This pretty much. There's something kind of sad about it on a meta level. Like there's no possible way he can win. His bullets simply will never hit these invincible people and his soldiers simply cannot scratch them. The story will not allow him to win and yet he tries to the bitter end. Kind of pathetic and admirably at the same time.
Kind of crazy to know that Floch's actions weren't totally fruitless: he DID manage to kill Hange because of this lol. That's kind of a W in the end. Floch died, but he ended up taking Hange with him to hell.
Even still- to fight for a cause that isn't resultant in genocide is the path of humanity. That is what they all believed. Even if thousands of years of peace gets trampled on in future generations due to the horrific actions of the past; genocide never is and never will be an answer. Even Eren has never actually tried looking for a way that is outside of anything he's seen from future memories- he despises slaves yet he was a slave to ensuring the future he saw happens exactly as he foresaw it. We shouldn't kill on the basis of the past. We shouldn't kill if it means taking the freedom of others. We shouldn't kill to eradicate if it means survival. All of these actions are purely baked in selfishness and never ends up right. Yeagerists were not right, if they followed Armin's plans, maybe things would've been different. But nobody would know because nothing has been tried- purely because Eren wanted freedom in his time, not for the future generations, which ultimately costed him.@@UmQasaann
@@skyaabThe hatred Marley has for Paradise cannot be quenched They have held on to this hatred for thousands of years Was genocide a good choice. No It was the only choice Eren himself was forced to do it And eren interest was only to guarantee his friend's happiness After they died their children and grandchildren got slaughtered by marley
Maybe the hatred cannot be quenches in their generation...But you could argue they could FIGHT for it? But if peace for Paradis is all Eren wanted; for his friends to live long- He could've just used the rumbling to destroy the military outposts and supplies that took hundreds of years to build. But the main takeaway here is 2 things; THAT future would've been uncertain. And Eren WANTED TO flatten the earth. But regardless the point of the main squad is to just fight for their justice- their idea of peace. Genocide isn't the answer and it surely wasn't the only choice, but it was for Eren since he wanted Freedom on his terms, and not other's terms. @@MiniDNM
@@skyaab the thing is if he just used the rumbling to destroy military outpost The peace they would try to achieve is by using fear, simply saying "Have peace with us or we'll flatten your home and family" literally eren has the attack Titan power, able to see the future If someone with the ability to see the future suddenly chose his choice as genocide, you can pretty much guess who much worse the other options are
@MiniDNM incorrect. His ability to see a future was a future that was set in stone that he couldn't change. He said this himself. But one could argue Eren didn't try hard enough. In the end Eren is very selfish and selfless at the same time. Maybe fear is used, but so what? They can argue it was to defend themselves as they keep trying for peace. The problem is that any other future was not ever seen by Eren. He said he tried to do things differently, but the future he foresaw always came to be. But this immediately can be seen as a stupid lie since he himself said to Armin at the end that he "wanted to" he "wanted" to flatten everything. His stainted idea of freedom was there since birth. Genocide is something he chose under the idea of "peace". Its bad. It was a choice. That's what got him killed
@@Losowy not the same reason . Mahr declared an unprovoked war of extermination upon paradise for literally no reason and the rest of the world approved . THEY created this situation, THEY intended to exterminate paradise island for greed and fear of reprisal for their crimes. Eren literally had no other choice and damn did he ask for an other option.
@@stormbringer2840 since the beggining they wanted to destroy paradis due to fear of Rumbling which was completely justified not because of greed and crimes Eldia on the other hand didn't want to be exterminated
@@Losowy not out of fear of the rumbling . They wanted the ressources of the paradise island ( the cristals ) . And the rest of the world was progressing enough to create anti titan weapons , and since their way of controlling the world was through titan warfare they understood their supremacy was coming to an end , so they wanted the power of the original just to have the power of threatening the world with the rumbling . So yeah their actions was based on greed and fear … the fear to lose their power .
I hate that when Hange dies they show her soul among the old heroes that died when the plot was simpler, but doesn't show Floch among them, as if to hint Floch is a villain or belongs in hell... when: 1st the plot isn't as black and white as that; 2nd floch is the one following the first plan, the one everyone was into first... so basically your place in heaven depends on where in the timeline you died, not your purpose... I think they did floch dirty in that bittersweet dead Henge scene
…You don’t think it would be extremely awkward and kind of kill the mood if the person responsible for her death was casually standing there, comically staring at the plane he tried to stop taking off? Seriously dude?
@@purpleemerald5299 doesn't a scene like this LITERALLY happen in the desert of ymir ? when zeke explains to eren that ymir only obeys sometimes? (back then zeke and eren were against each other...) meaning in astral plans it doesn't really matter their will at earth... or when Eren talks to Armin... sure Armin is upset at first but then he just sat down and talked
@@OJeyjunior Zeke still loved his brother, Eren literally NEEDED Zeke, neither of them were dead. What’s even the comparison here? Eren orchestrated the conditions for his own death. He actively invited his friends to kill him, and him and Armin were still friends. Once again, what’s even similar about this? What exactly would suddenly put Floch on good terms with Hange there, watching the plane he LITERALLY JUST tried to stop take off?
It's called "survival skills". A soldier is taught how to survive in tough situations. Floch wasn't surrounded by death but the whole alliance was but escaped due to the writing of making the so-called heroes win
@@Coxzucker_1337 literally one could make the exact same argument "alliance were the most elite of eldias scout regiment, not to mention have 2 Ackermanns, that's why they survived". Also no amount of "survival skills" will train you to hold onto a boat traveling across the ocean while critically injured. They don't teach that in soldier training lmfao. literally claiming alliance has plot armor but floch doesn't is copium. It's an anime, they both got it.
Not just this. Floch's entire existence resulted from him having the absolutely greatest Plot Armour in the entirety of AoT when he survived a full frontal change towards the Beast Titan without any major injuries. Honestly I don't get this whole argument about Plot Armour. AoT has always had plot armor like every other story. Almost every major character survived the finale of Season 2 when the scouts had no reason surviving that many Titans with no coverage. That was plot armor. Erwin survived having his Arm bitten off. That was plot armor. Everyone surviving the cave collapse at the end of Season 3 because Eren found his Deus Ex Hardening ability. Almost every major character surviving the end of Season 3 Part 2. Floch survived a full Frontal barrage of rocks from the Beast Titan. Reiner survived by shifting his consciousness to f*cking knees. Hange survived a Nuke because she fell into a well. Because we all know fire and heat can't travel down narrow tunnels. Armin survived being burned to a toast long enough to be revived. And just in general none of the scouts kicked the bucket in such a high stakes battle. But now all of a sudden people have an issue with Plot Armor.
"Maybe someday Paradise will get destroyed" Edit: It turns out then in the last episode-🏙️🏙️🏙️🌇🌇🌇🌆🌆🌆 ✈️🌎 HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF REPEATING MANY TIMES THEN... 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀 History Become 0️⃣0️⃣0️⃣ Again After a century!!! HUHHHHHH
SPOILERS: nobody seems to mention this but floch’s shooting indirectly caused Hange’s death in fighting the titans to prolong the plane’s repairs. imagine if he didn’t shoot and hange joined everyone for the end fight, how much different that would be.
Through action, a Man becomes a Hero Through death, a Hero becomes a Legend Through time, a Legend becomes a Myth RIP King Floch👑 Loyal Friend and Patriot, in time they all will know you were Right !! o7
Bro isayama literally could not spell it out more that the rumbling / Eren / the jaegarists are all intended to be bad. That’s not happening, Floch will be remembered in universe as an international monster who almost doomed billions of completely innocent people to death just to protect the one island he lived on.
Erwin died a hero, but Floch lived long enough to see himself become a villain. Love to see your definition of a hero is someone who leads a global genocide over a small little island. Isayama meant to show Eren and the Yeagerists as an allegory for Hitler and the Third Reich my guy...
The Yeagerists were right. Fuck the retcons. Fuck the plotholes created by the retcons. Eren is the God of his people. And Floch is his appointed King.
The Alliance sabotage the rumbling sparing 20% of humanity which mind you the outside world straight up genocided Paradis launching nuclear weapons! Lmao Hajime Isayama was to much of a pussy to make Eren genocidal 100% of humanity, hope that hack never makes another shitty manga ever again.
