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Florida man’s trip overseas ends in sticker shock over $143,000 phone bill 

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Floridian Rene Remund and his wife toured Switzerland last September. But when they got home, their cell phone bill had jumped higher than the Swiss Alps. Remund and his wife said they travel frequently and always notify their cell phone carrier before they leave the United States. In this case, Rene said he visited a T-Mobile store to share his travel plan. He's also been a T-Mobile customer for nearly 30 years. “They said you’re covered. Whatever that meant. You're covered,” Rene said.

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@user-pk1bi1ol9u
@user-pk1bi1ol9u Месяц назад
contacting the media was better than hiring the attorney
@luiv.7550
@luiv.7550 Месяц назад
Technically it was his attorney who called the media so I mean I guess he did get it resolved lol
@funwithFred
@funwithFred Месяц назад
Yes. Nowadays in situations like this, oh yes.
@tbirdboy
@tbirdboy Месяц назад
$2500 vs $143k. No brainer.
@fashiondiva6972
@fashiondiva6972 Месяц назад
Try again🙄
@ThatsRickyyTann
@ThatsRickyyTann Месяц назад
Once the media puts it out there, attorney's will be licking their lips from all over
@mistervo8185
@mistervo8185 Месяц назад
Note to self: don't call a lawyer for legal action. Call a news reporter.
@lightfire3606
@lightfire3606 Месяц назад
Only when its a company that isnt paying or opening the News Then your on your own
@Sara-dq3ob
@Sara-dq3ob Месяц назад
My neighbor was being overcharged rent & electricity &fees by our landlord. State notified landlord about violating TX law but landlord ignored it & continued overcharging. Neighbor contacted our local news station in TX. The station ignored his complaint and did positive story on landlord. Nothing about Tx finding landlord/property breaking law. Now the neighbor is being evicted because he couldn't pay erroneous charges. Property still breaking the law.
@SethiozProject
@SethiozProject Месяц назад
most companies are more afraid of the media than lawyers, cuz even if they lose the case and have to pay like 500k or even a million, they really don't care, they have the money, BUT if some big media group reveals their scam, they will lose hundreds of thousands of customers, which can potentially cost them millions.
@lindamastropietro4429
@lindamastropietro4429 Месяц назад
The lawyer may not have been the aggressive type that you need
@dannydaw59
@dannydaw59 Месяц назад
It wouldn't hurt to try the news, but if the story isn't sensational enough, they won't cover it.
@user-cw2py6wh8l
@user-cw2py6wh8l Месяц назад
$143,000 for 10GB of roaming data. Sounds reasonable in 1990.
@majesticwaterbear
@majesticwaterbear Месяц назад
I find this randomly recommended video funny as I type this comment using wifi at my hotel room in Tokyo that I traveled to by train from the airport, with the help of Google Maps and an eSIM with 10GB of (pretty fast) data for $17 instead of using T-Mobile’s free unlimited 256Kbps data that I didn’t know came with my plan until they texted me about it after I landed.
@WalkDay
@WalkDay Месяц назад
You mean 1909.
@farid.elgh.
@farid.elgh. Месяц назад
I'm sure it wasn't just data. It was also calls.
@metubeglvz
@metubeglvz Месяц назад
probably his original 30 year old plan lol
@AnnabelleC0306
@AnnabelleC0306 Месяц назад
Exactly
@mmz12
@mmz12 Месяц назад
Unless you're roaming on another planet, this just doesn't make any kind of sense.
@Isacking97
@Isacking97 Месяц назад
Really old plan, probably 20+ years old with no roaming included
@theeraphatsunthornwit6266
@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 Месяц назад
Alien wouldnt charge us that much😂
@ThePeterDislikeShow
@ThePeterDislikeShow Месяц назад
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 Make sure to bring your patience with you. Signals take 10-15 minutes to get to Mars.
@ChristinaMagma
@ChristinaMagma Месяц назад
Lol true
@insomnia20422
@insomnia20422 Месяц назад
when he thinks $143 was a reasonable phone bill, yeah hes definitely still living in the 90s...
@leadboots72
@leadboots72 Месяц назад
What is criminal is we are expected to think $143k is a reasonable price for less than 10gigs of data, even with roaming charges. This is ridiculous and predatory. How is this justified?
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 Месяц назад
I don't even think Inmarsat has the cajones to charge that much.
@kaistockman6443
@kaistockman6443 Месяц назад
Do other countries have prepaid phones? Because it would be much cheaper to just get a new phone over there each time he travels then the bill he got.
@fixieroy
@fixieroy Месяц назад
American capitalism
@86LukeM
@86LukeM Месяц назад
@@fixieroythey're actually owned by a German telecommunications company.
@TheObeyMayhem
@TheObeyMayhem Месяц назад
@@newYorkStories corrupted capitalism, not capitalism.
@Voorhees-Jason
@Voorhees-Jason Месяц назад
why does it take someone calling the news for a company to do the right thing?!!?!!?!?
@ColZep
@ColZep Месяц назад
Because the company would prefer to sweep it under the rug so they don't have to deal with it.
@owomushi_vr
@owomushi_vr Месяц назад
It's because T-Mobile is slimy never trust them . I learned years ago don't trust especially after being lied to about device contracts and wrong prices listed on phones. I am no longer with T-Mobile they can thank the short term greed that I'll never use them again.
@RoundzMusic
@RoundzMusic Месяц назад
@@ColZep Imagine all the other people this has happened to that didn't get lucky finding a news station that does these kind of stories..
@mutiur7396
@mutiur7396 Месяц назад
But if anyone successful, companies usually refrain from wrong doings
@TheRobWay1
@TheRobWay1 Месяц назад
It would have been squashed, but this cut through the 6 months of bullshit, late fees, demand letters etc. they did the right thing.
@sixpacksae
@sixpacksae Месяц назад
As someone who worked for a major provider, and subsequently resigned due to their unethical activities, my advice is collect record of EVERYTHING. Record conversations with sales reps, collect written documents of any and all interactions. Protect yourself, because they most definitely do not have you covered
@shaggydawg5419
@shaggydawg5419 Месяц назад
I blame the subscribers IF they don't check with the provider before leaving. In this case, the blame entirely belongs to T-Mobile because the employee misleads him by telling him he's covered. That's a scam. I'm curious about one thing, do cellular providers pay their roaming partners THAT much for roaming? Does T-Mobile actually pay their roaming partner $100K to use their network?
@ml-jt6eg
@ml-jt6eg Месяц назад
@shaggydawg5419 you don’t know what he asked the phone rep. Unless he specifically asked about international roaming charges, they probably didn’t lie. Most likely he only asked can I use my phone in Sweden.
@Angel-Pizzaeater
@Angel-Pizzaeater Месяц назад
​@@shaggydawg5419And I blame you.
@RoundzMusic
@RoundzMusic Месяц назад
Bro. They do have you covered. For $143k
@UnknownUser-gd3ls
@UnknownUser-gd3ls Месяц назад
​@@RoundzMusicyou're not funny bro
@e.b.4506
@e.b.4506 Месяц назад
Those were extortion charges. No phone or data should cost that much, about $15,000.00 per gig!
@RHpanzerstar
@RHpanzerstar Месяц назад
Maybe his Plan is stuck in 1990😂
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
​@RHpanzerstar he's been with them for 30 years so it was 100% due to an old grandfathered plan.
@6StringPassion.
@6StringPassion. Месяц назад
What t-Mobile said: We're sorry. What we all heard: We're sorry that we were exposed in the media, so we're going to wipe out the bill to try to make it seem like we actually give a shit.
@fredflintstone5356
@fredflintstone5356 Месяц назад
Yup and they will just do it again and again. They won’t learn and they don’t care. They just give a meaningless apology when caught.
@user-vz8pb2fk5d
@user-vz8pb2fk5d Месяц назад
I agree completely ! Says alot about T-Mobile
@kazz8588
@kazz8588 Месяц назад
On point!! The telcos wont learn until they find themselves on the losing end - that they’re liable for charges like these. Right now, it must make them a lot of money to be as difficult (hiring lawyer AND reporting to the news - how is that sorry?!) and indifferent to a $143k bill.
@YouTubesucksdix
@YouTubesucksdix Месяц назад
That wiped out bill counts as a loss applied as a tax credit.
@coderider3022
@coderider3022 Месяц назад
@@fredflintstone5356the Dude at fault, t mobile under media pressure made him whole but it was a valid debt.
@ProSePlaintiff
@ProSePlaintiff Месяц назад
Guy was still ripped off. $2500 for an attorney? To do what? He could have contacted the reporter himself with the bill.
@jerseygirl6155
@jerseygirl6155 Месяц назад
seems like everyone thinks they need to get an attorney before realizing they can do it themselves
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 Месяц назад
Actually, $2500 is a warning sign as that is far too cheap to retain an attorney of any quality at all.
@Im_just_super_sayin
@Im_just_super_sayin Месяц назад
I hear this complaint often as a repair man. It's not about how hard the task is to perform, the homeowner do not know he he could receive results going to a reporter, which is pretty normal when thinking about potential legal issues... It's knowledge you're often paying for, so could you do it yourself? Probably but first you need to acquire the knowledge then hopefully succeed
@ProSePlaintiff
@ProSePlaintiff Месяц назад
@@Im_just_super_sayin RU-vid has videos how to repair stuff. Nobody is going to pay you for simple repairs when they are one google search away to fixing stuff.
@ProSePlaintiff
@ProSePlaintiff Месяц назад
@@Im_just_super_sayin You must make lots of dough with just a high school diploma.
@quadplays924
@quadplays924 Месяц назад
$2500 Lawyer was useless. Tryin to mail the president of T mobile, seriously? Only took this reporter 1 phone call to make things right.
@halberderdier8073
@halberderdier8073 Месяц назад
So mainstream media are useful after all?
@jetli740
@jetli740 Месяц назад
TV media have lots of power they cant piss off. with lawyer it one to one but TV you talk about millions.
@stra2g
@stra2g Месяц назад
The lawyer... is literally the reason this was reported on lol... come on man...
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Месяц назад
You guys online keep proving you have literally NO IDEA how ther real world works. That comment is beyond the pale lol. I won't even bother explaining...it should be obvious to you by now. The lawyer was key, trust me. Its not like youtube where anyone can clickk and get the same result.
@TechDogeth
@TechDogeth Месяц назад
@@stoneneils That's correct, lawyer will leave a trail of paper T-Mobile cannot slither out of. Everything will be official and dated, also proving they had tried to get things corrected via the normal channels first before going to the media.
@Mestoc
@Mestoc Месяц назад
Im a small ISP customer. Theres a credit limit of 250 or 500 dollars so insane charges like this would never happen. What t-mobile did to this customer is unacceptable.
@elevatorcentral
@elevatorcentral Месяц назад
sprint has been doing it for decades
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
He actually probably just had a very old grandfathered plan that caused it. The rep he spoke to was likely outsourced as well and they often get robotic and policy strict because they are punished heavily if they aren't. Combination of 2 things led to this. Likely would've been solved had he sent a fax to the corporate office with the situation.
@BUFFDgaming
@BUFFDgaming Месяц назад
for anyone to say yeah this looks right should be punished
@leestill3733
@leestill3733 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@majorlagg9321
@majorlagg9321 Месяц назад
@@techshabby0001 He's referring to the T-Mobile customer service people.
@Hans-gb4mv
@Hans-gb4mv Месяц назад
So, what is someone at a support desk supposed to say? They don't have the power to credit something like that to the customer. They can only verify that the amount is correct according to the plan the customer has and the consumption of data. The only other thing they can do is escalate it. And this guy was lucky that he media attention helped. I once saw a 10k phone bill and the carrier was willing to credit back half the amount.
@joanndaprile9076
@joanndaprile9076 Месяц назад
@@techshabby0001 It was said by the T-Mobile rep the man spoke to about the bill before the attorney and media got involved
@thanosianthemadtitanic
@thanosianthemadtitanic Месяц назад
reminds me of the 1.4 million doller speeding ticket in georgia
@ccr7712
@ccr7712 Месяц назад
T mobile customer service representative gave him the wrong information before he went for his trip 🤷🏼‍♂️, they need to train their customer service better.
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser Месяц назад
I know when he got the roaming alert and enhanced charges will be assessed, he totally didnt beleive it because customer service told him different 😂
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser Месяц назад
I beleive it
@Eleahchris
@Eleahchris Месяц назад
He didn’t give wrong information, he LIED to him. T-Mobile is sneaky like that.
@gingercat7925
@gingercat7925 Месяц назад
@@Eleahchris Yeah because the fully expect some random guy to pay their $140k bill.
@gdiup9241
@gdiup9241 Месяц назад
Customer service don’t care. They won’t feel it. Get it in writing. They say the call is recorded, where is the recording?
@moazfareed1409
@moazfareed1409 Месяц назад
I made an 8 mins call to Samoa with T-Mobile, the bill came at 77$, I switched to another carrier the same day. T-Mobile’s billing is out of control.
@ua7pyro591
@ua7pyro591 Месяц назад
🗑️
@BurnzOfficial
@BurnzOfficial Месяц назад
Should get back his money from that attorney
@flygirlsonly
@flygirlsonly Месяц назад
The attorney used his connections to have his story broadcasted on the news which ultimately got T-Mobile to credit the account I think the attorney earned his pay but T-Mobile could definitely reimburse him
@RandumbTech
@RandumbTech Месяц назад
The SAME THING happened to me when I traveled over to London a few months ago!! I called T Mobile before I left and I paid for the upgraded data plan for my family of 5 which the woman in the phone said would be unlimited. Almost as soon as I landed, it said we’d used up all of our data. I called them from London and was on hold for over an hour. Thankfully I was able to resolve it over the phone and they credited my account the thousands of dollars, but it was not easy. I genuinely feel for this guy. Glad it worked out!!
@IM-qy7mf
@IM-qy7mf Месяц назад
Is this a frequent thing with T-Mobile? I've had roaming issues with them as well.
@Needsmoreflash
@Needsmoreflash Месяц назад
Oh, jeez. I'm scared now. I use T-Mobile and I'm going to France soon.
@shadowdancer5330
@shadowdancer5330 Месяц назад
​@Needsmoreflash close it and switch to Verizon, they have better service.
@Ghostwolf82
@Ghostwolf82 Месяц назад
@@Needsmoreflashmy advice would be to switch providers. “Better safe than sorry” is what I’m thinking.
@dalesmth1
@dalesmth1 Месяц назад
Happened to my wife with AT&T on a trip to London and Belgium.
@88997799
@88997799 Месяц назад
Even roaming data of 9.5Gb shouldn’t be $143,000…. Nobody is that rich or that stupid. He should file a case for emotional distress. Sue them for $250,000
@gingercat7925
@gingercat7925 Месяц назад
You watch way too much TV.
@chuckm6274
@chuckm6274 Месяц назад
Oh yes data is that much. Now each carrier is different in what they charge. But on average a pay per use for min is about 2.99 a min, text is like .50 per text and data is about 2.00 per MB. Yes that is per MB. And these days it's nothing to use a MB of data.
@jameson6537
@jameson6537 Месяц назад
I agree…
@jewelsverne9027
@jewelsverne9027 Месяц назад
@@chuckm6274 $143,000 for 9.5Gb is $15 per MB so definitely still gouged him, $13 more than your alleged average
@eile4219
@eile4219 Месяц назад
My T-Mobile plan was free for roaming data. I was in Japan, keep using it. No charger
@KiamKweli
@KiamKweli Месяц назад
They charged that man like it's 2004 again. Insane that even a lawyer couldn't help him.
@DR-mq1vn
@DR-mq1vn Месяц назад
Thank you for helping this man!
@treehousewood85
@treehousewood85 Месяц назад
So it sounds like the attorney didn’t do anything more than ask someone else for help who ended up getting it resolved. Who got paid again?
@SickSensei223
@SickSensei223 Месяц назад
Low quality attorney charging the bare minimum because he doesn't know what he's doing and has to get someone qualified to help him.
@Alegend03
@Alegend03 Месяц назад
The attorney was the one to contact this news channel, so ya you're an idiot.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 Месяц назад
The attorney solved the problem. The attorney knew how to solve the problem. So it sounds like money well spent.
@mm-ln9sw
@mm-ln9sw Месяц назад
paying $2500 to erase a $143,000 bill seems like a fair trade to me tbh 😂😂
@jeffparks25
@jeffparks25 Месяц назад
And he still has to pay $2,500.00 for the attorney to get someone else at the News reporters to help him
@theflanman420420
@theflanman420420 Месяц назад
Criminal corporate over allowance of ridiculous fees and this is allowed. Thieves
@bdiamond545
@bdiamond545 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@luogl
@luogl Месяц назад
You eat a steak at restaurant without checking for price first? Then don't be shocked when paying.
@johnnolan5579
@johnnolan5579 Месяц назад
@@luogl This is a case where you wouldn't know the price until you received the bill. Not the same at all.
@TheLucidSpecter
@TheLucidSpecter Месяц назад
​@@luoglshows how little you know 😂😂
@pearlsswine
@pearlsswine Месяц назад
​@@TheLucidSpecterI know right? This guy is literally advocating for being responsible. Like, this is 2024 bruh, get with the times!
@idkwhyiam9440
@idkwhyiam9440 Месяц назад
Looks like that attorney owes the reporter $2500 lol
@stra2g
@stra2g Месяц назад
The attorney is the catalyst the to problem being resolved though lol. I think it's money well earned.
@ManachanJapan
@ManachanJapan 26 дней назад
I had a similar issue back in 2012. I went to university in Germany and had a contract with a local mobile phone carrier. They had a monthly option to pay 10€ on top and be able to use data/texts/phone calls under the same conditions EU-wide. As I was planning a Europe trip I booked that option and on top set my roaming limit to 50€, as I was planning to travel to Moscow and St Petersburg for 4 days as well (non-EU). Back in Germany, my next bill was almost 300€. I called their hotline and was asked to send them an email and explain everything. I did, and 2 weeks later right before Christmas, I got a reply with an apology and an re-calculated bill as a PDF. I only had to pay the 50€ roaming limit in the end.
@CiceroT
@CiceroT Месяц назад
How can it be THAT expensive? With Verizon I have the option of paying an extra 90 bucks for the month I’m overseas to get unlimited data and text. Or I can get charged 10 dollars for every day that I use my phone overseas. How can it possibly get to 143K??? What is T-Mobile doing differently from Verizon?
@JCcreates927
@JCcreates927 Месяц назад
When we were with Verizon our phone bill was quadruple what it is with t-mobile so there's that.
@jerrynadler2883
@jerrynadler2883 Месяц назад
Sounds like he was on a grandfathered plan being with them for 30+ years that maybe didnt have the correct 'rules' coded.
@Nakameguro97
@Nakameguro97 Месяц назад
It looks like the roaming data killed his bill. I’ve been with T-Mobile for over a decade, paying $25/month-line. When I fly overseas, I avoid all international voice calls, but still use SMS and international/local data, WITHOUT roaming. If I need to voice chat, I’ll use FaceTime or Line over WiFi or data. My bill? Still $25, no change. Gotta read and follow the fine print. You can’t depend on badly trained cheaply paid overseas support to get this right, unfortunately. He’s lucky T-Mobile waved the fees to avoid bad publicity.
@88997799
@88997799 Месяц назад
It’s called racketeering or price gouging… You should file a court case for emotional distress. Sue T-Mobile for $250,000.
@ringo7561
@ringo7561 Месяц назад
Yea, same with A T & T....this is bizzare...he could have had the 10.00 per day deal at the very least.
@asherhouseman6838
@asherhouseman6838 Месяц назад
Why, in this modern age, do phone companies even charge huge, exorbitant fees for a 'roaming' calls? Sattelite communication is so connected now that all calls are just local calls anywhere in the world.
@chuckm6274
@chuckm6274 Месяц назад
No, it's not. You are talking about 2 different things. Satellite is not cellular. A Sat phone can be used anywhere but are very expensive and there are not a lot of carriers for that. When you use cellular and you are in another country you are not using T-Mobile, att, or Verizon, etc. you are using that countries local carrier and that means that carrier charges your carrier to place or receive that call or text or data. Just like in the days where you were roaming if you just went out of your county, it's the same thing.
@dan-tv1kp
@dan-tv1kp Месяц назад
You probably mean fiber infrastructure instead of satcomm infrastructure.
@zepplin839
@zepplin839 Месяц назад
I bet this is a forgotten about grandfathered plan
@jaxonmattox9267
@jaxonmattox9267 Месяц назад
Been charged $103 dollars for calling one hotel internationally, these international usage scams need to be shut down
@JayTee2985
@JayTee2985 Месяц назад
This exactly what I fear was with international roaming charges. I went to talk to a T-Mobile store employee and bought a 15GB international pass for data, calls, and texts for $50 before my trip to visit South Korea, Japan, and Vietnam.
@darex0827
@darex0827 Месяц назад
I grabbed an orange sim in Spain for like 20 euro for 10 gigs or so. Best 20 I spent the whole trip.
@ntatenarin
@ntatenarin Месяц назад
Thanks for the tip!
@Love2Cruise
@Love2Cruise Месяц назад
T-Mobile's international pass is great for me, too. I'm on an old T-Mobile plan that doesn't include international roaming. That pass is a must when I travel internationally.
@bnkrazie
@bnkrazie Месяц назад
I got the global plus plan when I traveled to the Philippines. No issues until I got home and turned it off. They removed the global plus data but didn't add my previous data. I could make and receive calls and text but no internet data.... A huge ordeal. It as great using the global data plan but I'll probably use a local esim next time. Couldn't use a local email because my phone was locked and I'm pissed off about that as well.. Strike 2 for me with T-Mobile.
@asianstud7
@asianstud7 Месяц назад
​@@Love2Cruisecurious as to what plan you are on?
@epicpeppy2977
@epicpeppy2977 Месяц назад
Iv seen this before. I worked for a competitor. The customer came in beforehand to see if there would be charges like this. I was instructed to tell them no, they were covered. The came back with 1,500 bill. Fortunately it was resolved.
@pearlsswine
@pearlsswine Месяц назад
You destroyed someone's life for a mediocre week's salary. Are you proud of that? This will be your legacy on this earth. And your step papi said you'd never accomplish anything!
@760mom
@760mom Месяц назад
Thank you for helping.
@Av987
@Av987 Месяц назад
So they charge $15 for each MB of roaming data. That’s criminal!
@sd906238
@sd906238 Месяц назад
In the next news story Rene is suing his lawyer for doing nothing.
@estelladog1
@estelladog1 Месяц назад
I had one of those once. Not humorous really!
@NicholasW943
@NicholasW943 Месяц назад
The lawyer got into touch with the media, which is what triggered T-Mobile to make things right with his bill. The guy could've done it, but he didn't and his lawyer did. That lawyer earned his 2500.
@awtodor
@awtodor Месяц назад
2500 is a retaining fee
@RoIIingStoned
@RoIIingStoned Месяц назад
His lawyer literally did everythibg
@bender1111
@bender1111 Месяц назад
How many people are getting screwed like this by big companies but never getting justice because they couldn't get a news station to cover their story like this lucky gentleman? I'm betting on...A LOT.
@johnnolan5579
@johnnolan5579 Месяц назад
We are all getting screwed by big companies. Look at what they are charging for cars, groceries, services, etc. People love to blame the government, but the government doesn't set the prices of products and services.
@twilightgeneral777
@twilightgeneral777 Месяц назад
​@johnnolan5579 Maybe not directly, but the government is failing to properly regulate or reign in these thieving companies. Often because the companies have spent billions of dollars bribing them via lobbying.
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
He actually could've solved this himself within a week by mailing or faxing the corporate office with details. They likely would've made him change his plan because it's most definitely grandfathered with that kind of roaming cost.
@deemelody2396
@deemelody2396 Месяц назад
Maybe the problem is any phone company not giving older plan holders an automatic upgrade to the better terms offered in the newer plans. This incident happening in 2023/4 is ridiculous.
@luogl
@luogl Месяц назад
Legally they can't just "change the rates" automatically without breach contract, even for lower rates.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Месяц назад
@@luoglwhat they do to get around that is to switch you to a new plan that has less benefits for the same price, but they let you opt out of the switch - if you know about it ahead of time.
@IND4GR0V3
@IND4GR0V3 Месяц назад
"credit your account for the entire amount" doesnt matter if its roaming data 9.5 gigs never costs anywhere near that much no matter the case.
@alanevans6445
@alanevans6445 Месяц назад
Works out at $15 a MB. Ridiculous!
@gingercat7925
@gingercat7925 Месяц назад
And here he thought PornHub was free.
@rb810810
@rb810810 Месяц назад
You can file an FCC complaint for free and get the exact same response, from the exact same people at T-Mobile. No need to pay a lawyer, or get the news involved, when all you have to do is fill out the right form!
@uplink-on-yt
@uplink-on-yt Месяц назад
Finding the right form may not be straight forward. The lawyer should have found that form in this case - but for $25, not $2500.
@cmdrls212
@cmdrls212 Месяц назад
yeah right. the FCC will go: lolz you didn't pay for an international roaming plans.
@rb810810
@rb810810 Месяц назад
@@cmdrls212 FCC doesn't make a ruling. They elevate your complaint to the corporate office of the carrier, so you are not dealing with offshore representatives who are paid to end your call as quickly as possible.
@cmdrls212
@cmdrls212 Месяц назад
@@rb810810 so you'll be ignored twice, get put on collections, and get your credit destroyed
@zepplin839
@zepplin839 Месяц назад
​@@rb810810this. I don't think T-Mobile would have expected actual collection. Guy likely never talked to anyone outside the call center. Still scummy though
@bavros1998
@bavros1998 Месяц назад
There were days when we went on holiday without using a phone at all. Some of us still do.
@Joeindimension
@Joeindimension Месяц назад
Thanks you all
@RaisedxFist
@RaisedxFist Месяц назад
This is criminal.
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
It is not. It's an issue with grandfathered plans and a big reason why the mobile companies say to get off of them. He could've solved this easily by himself by calling more times or mailing corporate for an escalated case.
@L2002
@L2002 Месяц назад
@@TheBulge it's, my ISP's roaming service is always off by default, to use it you need to manually enable it, this is how it should works. for any plan/prepaid that doesn't include roaming balance, should be disabled by default. and you tell me that T-Mobile can't do that??
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
@L2002 I'm saying it was his responsibility to know what his plan details and coverage was. But just like with anything, people ignore the details. His plan was likely 20ish years old with those rates do yes, very much his fault. And again, very easy to fix with a letter at ZERO cost. Instead he got a lawyer and assumed the worst and that's why he is in the position he is in.
@anon8373
@anon8373 Месяц назад
thats criminal.
@vistazo9
@vistazo9 Месяц назад
Shocking and useful story 😮. Thanks !
@Maik-lf5mh
@Maik-lf5mh Месяц назад
Well, if his contract is 30yrs old.. those roaming fees make sense 😂😂😂😂
@Aiartistbob
@Aiartistbob Месяц назад
they should pay his lawyer fees
@jeffclark5268
@jeffclark5268 Месяц назад
Why? He hired the lawyer…why should they pay for that? Or is going to claim ignorance to how lawyers work too to try and get out of paying that bill too?
@TWORARETWOSPARE
@TWORARETWOSPARE Месяц назад
The lawyer was joke. He didnt do anything that the guy couldn't have done himself.
@hansenluu
@hansenluu Месяц назад
@@TWORARETWOSPARE the lawyer worths every penny. They sent the bill to the media. Great move.
@hansenluu
@hansenluu Месяц назад
I'm sure he's happy that the lawyer was smart enough to get the media involved. 143k off the hook vs 2.5k. I'd happily pay the lawyer.
@yenxion6516
@yenxion6516 Месяц назад
For anyone who plans to travel just get a prepaid SIM card it so much easier there are even apps now too.
@JCcreates927
@JCcreates927 Месяц назад
If they're stupid. I am old and know better, but I'm a techie.
@garypinsker
@garypinsker Месяц назад
New phones have Esim. Can’t do that.
@madierose
@madierose Месяц назад
@@garypinskermy family all bought eSims for travel to Spain this past summer. Very, very cheap and worked great!
@Paul_R1206
@Paul_R1206 Месяц назад
@@garypinskerYes you can. I use Airalo. Look them up. esim right to your phone.
@shaggydawg5419
@shaggydawg5419 Месяц назад
@@garypinsker it's even quicker with eSIM. You don't have to buy any physical SIM card. Just sign up at the destination or buy eSIM for international use before leaving. Instant delivery.
@crosswalklarry
@crosswalklarry Месяц назад
How is roaming even a thing in 2024? T-mobile has a big set of balls. They must have a team of lawyers making up rules buried deep in contracts. Personally I would have switched providers and told t-mobile to kick rocks.
@doorguru168888
@doorguru168888 Месяц назад
People don't read their contract or understand it And then when something like this happens, they are surprised.
@LatinaNHim
@LatinaNHim Месяц назад
If you're not sure, just get a local sim card.
@yvr2002rtw
@yvr2002rtw Месяц назад
In the U.S., it is very common for phones to be subsidized by the carrier and locked to their own SIM cards. You need to buy an unlocked phone (or get your phone unlocked once the contract is up) before you can use local SIM in other countries.
@OldLordSpeedy
@OldLordSpeedy Месяц назад
Exactly. Or inform myself before I travel to an Non-EU country. People forget all time that phone call in / out, SMS in / out, MMS in / out, data in / out, are eight different things how can charge different the provider. So own phone company brand (here German Telekom) is differently to non-contact phone companies too! So do you can have in this situation sixteen different prices! 😂 All paid from customers of course, no company give you a free gift!
@brotakig1531
@brotakig1531 Месяц назад
@@yvr2002rtw Then you buy a $30 phone, never once have I used my sim overseas and if need be buy a cheap phone that yes can actually connect to the internet and do everything as our $1000 phones do.
@HuplesCat
@HuplesCat Месяц назад
@@yvr2002rtwit’s actually cheap to buy a small phone in Europe. Give up screen time on vacation
@JB_Hobbies
@JB_Hobbies Месяц назад
Wow, that's crazy. As someone on T-Mobile, I am very surprised that those kinds of charges are even possible. That's completely out of control.
@cyber-tron2633
@cyber-tron2633 Месяц назад
They guy was an idiot and should have paid the full the amount
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
You should be surprised, he was one grandfathered plan. These charges don't happen and this is why plans are constantly updated. He could have solved all of this by himself easily with a plan backdate
@DetroitNinja
@DetroitNinja Месяц назад
I too had T-Mobile. I called to let them know that I was traveling to Asia. I checked my phone daily on roaming charges.
@Juice_WRLD1998
@Juice_WRLD1998 Месяц назад
The only reason T-Mobile dropped the charges is because it made the news if it wasn’t talked about he would’ve been forced to pay it
@MoonDog991
@MoonDog991 Месяц назад
Holy hell. You talkin' to someone on Mars?
@Johntheheadache
@Johntheheadache Месяц назад
Roaming charges were a thing 15 years ago when we didn't have as many towers, today roaming doesn't exist, but T-mobile, Verizon and At&t will never miss an opportunity to take your money. What worked here was public shaming a greedy company. I left T-mobile years ago and I will never go back.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 Месяц назад
Your traveling to other countries. The rules don’t apply the same.
@tonyjones9782
@tonyjones9782 Месяц назад
I agree I had Tmobile years ago I'll never use them
@pearlsswine
@pearlsswine Месяц назад
Pesants LOVE to throw around the word "greed" with a complete lack of self-awareness. First, roaming involves using another carriers towers. That's what dictates the charges, not the quantity of towers. Second, you're the one demanding to use another carrier's towers for free, so that makes you greedy. For for the shjt you use, honey.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 Месяц назад
@@pearlsswine There’s a difference between free and $143,000.
@Johntheheadache
@Johntheheadache Месяц назад
@@pearlsswine Learn to spell and write cohesive sentences, then maybe we can have an exchange. Until then, be quiet.
@c421t
@c421t Месяц назад
This is crazy. When you land, you get a text that tells you about all the roaming rates . He knew he just didn't care.
@programmer437
@programmer437 Месяц назад
I’ve roamed international with T-mobile and it was something like $10/day for up to 500MB a day. Never had an issue like this. Still $300 for a full month but it was manageable.
@VOAN
@VOAN Месяц назад
To all people who go oversea, never ever turn on data or roaming. You will accrue giant charges and T-Mobile will come after you. Never ever use data or roaming overseas. If anything set another network and buy another eSIM for your trip to prevent having to pay roaming charges. Never ever believe T-Mobile that you're cover. That's just then saying, we will scam you.
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Месяц назад
Or you can just read what your coverage gives you. I have AT&T. I sometimes buy an eSim package if I'm by myself. Sometimes, I just use the $10/day package they offer if I can't be bothered with the eSim stuff, or if the country I'm going to doesn't have eSim.
@shantaeamekia
@shantaeamekia Месяц назад
Not true. I have T-Mobile and have used it in several countries without incurring any additional charges. You have to know how to read and understand your international plan, though, because unfortunately, their customer service reps are not well trained. But that's true of all the cell phone companies, I've found. Just poor customer service.
@dmcebu
@dmcebu Месяц назад
Verison only charge$100 for overseas calls and unlimited data when ypu re out of the country.
@brandogeberbin7563
@brandogeberbin7563 Месяц назад
moron i have att i can use what ever i want still the same price. 200 a month.
@Kwijibob
@Kwijibob Месяц назад
Google Fi uses Tmobile's network among others and it's dead simple pricing. Data, text and wifi calling are same as domestic. Cellular calls are a flat rate per minute comparable to what domestic long distance used to cost. $143k phone bill is inexcusable.
@jazzyflorida3757
@jazzyflorida3757 Месяц назад
Switch carriers, and then don’t pay the bill. Ridiculous, why would this old man fall for this
@jerrynadler2883
@jerrynadler2883 Месяц назад
He has assets. T mobile can sue and take his assets.
@CarlosG1111
@CarlosG1111 Месяц назад
@@jerrynadler2883Lol no they can’t. It’s a phone company not the IRS.
@yahshua4928
@yahshua4928 Месяц назад
Leaving won’t stop collections agency.
@majorlagg9321
@majorlagg9321 Месяц назад
@@CarlosG1111 Of course, they can. You think the IRS is the only organization that can file a lawsuit?
@CarlosG1111
@CarlosG1111 Месяц назад
@@majorlagg9321 But can the phone company seize your property or assets like the IRS?
@Chad-Giga.
@Chad-Giga. Месяц назад
Roaming charges are for your provider, not you. T-Mobile is supposed to pay that fee. This is why you only do prepaid unlimited phone plans.
@KingBueno619
@KingBueno619 Месяц назад
The true winner: Attorney
@leebutz4727
@leebutz4727 Месяц назад
Now sue the attorney to get your $2500 back 😂
@houseandhobby6971
@houseandhobby6971 Месяц назад
The fact that t mobile had such a calculation and issued such a bill et's me know that for me and my family...they will never ever get my business.
@williamnews9051
@williamnews9051 Месяц назад
Dude had a plan from 20 years ago before international cellphones and smartphones were common. All of T Mobiles up to data plans include international roaming. This dude sticks with his $30 outdated grandfathered plan and then goes and uses international data. T Mobile has new phones, international, and more included in there $90 and $100 plan(1line). They beat the price of Verizon while doing 24 month financing not 36 month like AT&T. And if you’re prepaid well ur data must suck.
@ericwelsh4853
@ericwelsh4853 Месяц назад
My carrier notifies me when my roaming charges get expensive -- usually after $50 or $100. They send me text messages and emails. This guy didn't get ANY warnings???
@KageSama19
@KageSama19 Месяц назад
Roaming charges are an outright scam.
@Johngoodman454
@Johngoodman454 Месяц назад
I would never pay that ever scam
@yennyku5240
@yennyku5240 Месяц назад
I told my carrier that i was going to Switzerland and I still got charged around 500 bucks. You gotta tell the carrier every time you go
@taurussho86
@taurussho86 Месяц назад
What's crazy is all they do is shift service to a close by network, which is all done automatically.
@keekeeking7360
@keekeeking7360 Месяц назад
So true
@zaram131
@zaram131 Месяц назад
I went to Switzerland and AT&T was only $10 a day. We told them we were going.
@yennyku5240
@yennyku5240 Месяц назад
@@zaram131 I have att as well but I didn't just go to switzerland :/ I went to 6 other countries for a period of 3 1/2 weeks
@gffjjuu2697
@gffjjuu2697 Месяц назад
I use Google Fi and all I have to do is swap to their international plan for my trip (unlimited everything for $65) and swap back to my regular plan when I return home. It's waaaay easier than traditional carriers
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi Месяц назад
Wow 😱 but glad it got handled quickly
@suzybearheart530
@suzybearheart530 Месяц назад
I once spent 8 days in Spain and foolishly didn't spring for an international plan. It was 2012, I didn't plan on using my phone at all except to take pictures. Well, I got lost a few times and used my mobile data for maps etc, then ended up sending a few texts and it all added up to an extra $300 bucks on my bill. I thought that was bad. Can't imagine getting a bill for six figures!
@silentminority3240
@silentminority3240 Месяц назад
I have been a member with T-mobile since 2007. They lost part of my record when I renewed in 2009. But only have my files since then and 2011. Since the buy out of Sprint and out sourcing call centers to the Philippines, the service has suffered for T-mobile. It has nothing to do with with the out sourcing, but lack of care for their customers.
@mikefly562
@mikefly562 Месяц назад
That's why I like ATT - When on an International trip, it's $10 per day flat fee for unlimited data, voice, text, etc...very easy, plus they only charge up to $100 per billing cycle. I was on a 3 week trip overseas, using my phone as if I was at home, and the cost was $100. No worries at all.
@cruzanmongoose
@cruzanmongoose Месяц назад
But if you make a local call in a foreign country you get banged by the minute plus the ten dollars a day. It happened to me when I was in St Maarten, I called a girl I knew there from an ATT carrier and they charged us like 6 dollars a minute for the local call plus the 10 dollars a day. you can only make calls to the US and it's territories from a foreign country for the 10 dollars a day not local calls.
@robwebster1098
@robwebster1098 Месяц назад
Same, been in Japan since Oct and my bill is $100 more a month but unlimited everything
@cruzanmongoose
@cruzanmongoose Месяц назад
@@robwebster1098 We got ripped for the local calls in St Maarten.
@GamesFromSpace
@GamesFromSpace Месяц назад
And that's still an exorbitant fee.
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 Месяц назад
That's with your rate plan. There are plenty of grandfathered AT&T plans which would put you in the same predicament as this chap in the video.
@peccatumDei
@peccatumDei Месяц назад
International Roaming charges are something every traveler should be aware of. There was a story years ago of a man who watched a movie on his phone while the cruise ship he had boarded was still docked in Miami. His data however went though the ship's cell service, and international roaming charges applied...
@marcog6470
@marcog6470 Месяц назад
Wow what a nightmare
@politicsuncensored5617
@politicsuncensored5617 Месяц назад
T-Mobile should kick in the $2,500.00 that Mr. Remund had to pay to an attorney and they still refused to respond until the media got in on this~! Shalom
@ufuksenol2005
@ufuksenol2005 Месяц назад
When you work on something that only has the capacity to make you 5 dollars, it does not matter how much harder you work - the most you will make is 5 dollars.
@PineHosting
@PineHosting Месяц назад
People dont understand that the prices of things are never going back down. This inflation is deeper than we think. Those buying groceries are well aware that the real inflation is much over 10%. The increments dont match our income, yet certain investors still earn over $365,000 in stocks and assets. Wish I could accomplish that.
@faysdt414
@faysdt414 Месяц назад
Very possible! especially at this moment. Profits can be made in many different ways, but such intricate transactions should only be handled by seasoned market professionals.
@katiekilbo
@katiekilbo Месяц назад
Brian demonstrates an excellent understanding of market trends, making well informed decisions that leads to consistent profit
@vanillatgif
@vanillatgif Месяц назад
I'm surprised that you just mentioned and recommend Mr Brian Nelson. I met him at a conference in 2018 and we have been working together ever since.
@Faijan-zx5ov
@Faijan-zx5ov Месяц назад
Sounds interesting. I was planning to invest some few £ in some coins, stack them up and leave them for a few years, but seeing this changed my mindset. Thank you very much
@vonrock6862
@vonrock6862 Месяц назад
Don’t look at your bill, look at your contract
@mastahyo0210
@mastahyo0210 Месяц назад
I also have t-mobile for over 23 years and I been traveling all over the world always have free text and roaming data.
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
He has a grandfathered plan.
@1234crevis
@1234crevis Месяц назад
Anyone with T-Mobile u have been warned lol
@BenSwagnerd
@BenSwagnerd Месяц назад
This is wild in 2024. It makes me glad the only time I traveled out of the country I stayed on airplane mode and only used wifi. I was a college student doing field studies and there's no way I'd have been able to afford this, or a lawyer, and I'd have panicked too hard to think of contacting the media.
@ForumArcade
@ForumArcade Месяц назад
Why should leaving the country make internet any more expensive? I don't get it.
@jphogannet
@jphogannet Месяц назад
A better plan is not to take your primary phone and expose your information to theft or loss. Take a throwaway or even BETTER *buy* one in country with a months service.
@jaysdood
@jaysdood Месяц назад
First thing I do when I head overseas is to remove my SIM and I buy a temporary SIM in the destination country. Mobile companies are a disgrace and need to be severely punished for excesses like this. In this case, the CEO should have been jailed for 12 months.
@theboldeagle8775
@theboldeagle8775 Месяц назад
The worst company never answer the phone if they do ,no results 😒 just wasting time in between line ,if go to the near dealer 🙄 they'll say call customer service, I think it's their standard to not pay what they stole, it happened to me until I changed my debit card
@KNByam
@KNByam Месяц назад
Why is there a cost for roaming? I often wondered that. What is the cost to the carrier if you stay on the phone for 5 minutes?
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
Towers. They aren't tmobiles. Tmobile wasn't at fault here, it was technically his because he never changed from a grandfathered plan. With this cost, his plan is likely 20 years old
@bombaybeach208
@bombaybeach208 Месяц назад
I always use a top up SIM card.
@darkfur93
@darkfur93 Месяц назад
He probably has a old grandfathered in plan from around 2008 when international data was $14.99 per MB. When people used packet data to look up news or send emails on wap sites. The customer service rep was in the wrong, I'm sure the phone company has a policy in place for when this happens. The roaming company in Switzerland isn't charging anywhere near $143K to T-Mobile for 10GB of data now days, it was probably $75 max.
@ricahrdb
@ricahrdb Месяц назад
The video is vague about it but you are probably right. Roaming rates are pretty much nowhere this high.
@baileyryanpatrick17
@baileyryanpatrick17 Месяц назад
I love that he didn't even bother to remove the eyeglass strength sticker!
@GamersBay
@GamersBay Месяц назад
Absolute crooks! They should give him back the money he was forced to pay his lawyer over their greedy charges.
@rogerrantz2024
@rogerrantz2024 Месяц назад
They still need to be sued, they just kept letting him run that bill up without saying a word. Electric will cut you off for less than 500 USD
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
Not their responsibility. It was his responsibility to read his plan details and keep up to date. He 100% had a grandfathered plan and didn't pay attention. Easily solvable issue too. It's called a backdate, all they need to do to fix it is change the plan, pay the difference over a few weeks so like $10 probably and any overcharge is gone. The issue is that he is old and thought he was tricked. If this happens to you or somebody you know. Have them check their bill, there is contact info for escalations beyond call center authority. This could've been fixed within a week with maybe 5 minutes of effort
@rogerrantz2024
@rogerrantz2024 Месяц назад
@@TheBulge they wrote that ridiculous plan and should change it immediately and stop trying to scam people. If the average American tried something like that we would get in trouble in court.
@DinaOnyu-ih7hw
@DinaOnyu-ih7hw Месяц назад
What kind of response is that from t-mobile? If the customer has been with you for so long that their outdated plan does not include international roaming, freaking update their plan for free rather than setting up that trap for your loyal customer to step in.
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
Outsourced call center I bet.
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets Месяц назад
I left t-mobile years ago due to a similar issue, was in the hundreds of dollars of bogus roaming charges and they wouldn’t budge. I paid it, ported all of my phones and never used them again.
@PuffOfSmoke
@PuffOfSmoke Месяц назад
This is why I buy local SIM the minute I land at a country I'm visiting. Local SIM are available at the airport and they'll give you a plan you can use for a certain GB.
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser Месяц назад
Notifying the company doesnt give you free roaming anywhere
@nachobroryan8824
@nachobroryan8824 Месяц назад
He likely asked them what he needed to do not to be charged an exorbitant amount and they gave him incorrect information.
@luckofhan
@luckofhan Месяц назад
You must be fun at parties @joe
@Ur-_-Killa-TV
@Ur-_-Killa-TV Месяц назад
It’s disgusting that the news had to intervene just to get this poor guy some help
@JLocke573
@JLocke573 Месяц назад
But who actually sent that? Who sat there, printed out a $140,000 bill, put it in an envelope and sent it to this man as if he's going to pay it? Even if he did misunderstand how roaming data works, why have a system where someone can ACCIDENTALLY spend $140,000 in three weeks, without their knowledge!? Kind of a stupid ass system isn't it?
@jessev5761
@jessev5761 Месяц назад
A computer did that, not a person. Please understand the world you live in.
@pearlsswine
@pearlsswine Месяц назад
Boomer fell asleep on his Percocet in 1975 and woke up in 2024 and doesn't understand the concept of automation
@jeremyr7147
@jeremyr7147 Месяц назад
Ai dont care...
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino Месяц назад
I do feel like there should be a max amount that you use before it warns you and you have to approve to continue using.
@zepplin839
@zepplin839 Месяц назад
This entire thing was automated. And voided when someone who knew what happened noticed.
@James_Knott
@James_Knott Месяц назад
I'm on Rogers in Canada and roaming to Switzerland is $15 (CDN)/day, with maximum charge of 20 days per billing month. This includes calls, texts and data. Also, if I the customer has a Rogers credit card, 5 days are included for free. Another option would be for him to get a local SIM while traveling.
@grateful.
@grateful. Месяц назад
Its not like he was on mars trying to phone home 😂
@carlosmark9840
@carlosmark9840 Месяц назад
The attorney did his job regardless how it got done the client is off the hook on the payment.
@JoeGator23
@JoeGator23 Месяц назад
Now have this attorney go after T-Mobile to pay up.
@Errr717
@Errr717 Месяц назад
The international travel plan only costs $50. Obviously T-Mobile office he went to didn't know what they were talking about. It's too bad he had to spend $2,500.00 for an attorney and still got no response. That was bad. This piece of story just cost them tons of customers. I have to remember to call a TV station if I come into an outrages situation with a company.
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
It's because he definitely had a grandfathered plan probably 20+ years old.
@stra2g
@stra2g Месяц назад
The $2500 was well spent. The lawyer is the reason the TV station reported
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
@stra2g not well spent. It didn't even need reporting. He had a grandfathered plan, all he had to do was check his bill for an address or fax number and spend 5 minutes writing his situation. After a week tmobile would have called him to change his phone plan and backdate the international charge to its usual amount. He is 2.5k under for pretty much nothing.
@stra2g
@stra2g Месяц назад
@@TheBulge That's insane talk lol. You think T-mobile is going to do that when they literally just ignored an attorney about the issue? The Attorney knew contacting the station would be an appropriate solution and it worked. He did his job and was the catalyst to the solution. It's a job well done.
@TheBulge
@TheBulge Месяц назад
@stra2g yes, it's a difference between departments. I used to work for one of these companies. You need to go through the proper channels.
@MrGriff305
@MrGriff305 Месяц назад
That's obviously absurd.. Nothing should be that expensive regarding a phone bill and data.
@BETTERWORLDSGT
@BETTERWORLDSGT Месяц назад
I had a 75$ phone call back in 1994, and I was shawked!
@Dallas-214
@Dallas-214 Месяц назад
Thats why i cancelled Tmobile years ago
@tshaffer9681
@tshaffer9681 Месяц назад
They are the biggest bunch of liars and thieves.
@gentile88
@gentile88 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
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