Florida State Could Join Expanded Big 10 Sooner Than Later

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Florida State could join the expanded Big 10 sooner than later according to Florida State athletic director Michael Alford. While speaking recently to FSU Alumni and Boosters at an event in Chicago, Alford hinted he may be in the area a lot more beginning this summer. It should be noted that the Big 10 offices were just a few miles away in Rosemont, Illinois.
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@cullenpeterson 16 дней назад

I was at that meeting! As a Nole living in Chicago, I can’t WAIT to see the conclusion of these lawsuits as going to the B1G would be a dream come true. Not only football-wise, but I’d love to see more FSU grads up here too.

@grobble8954 14 дней назад

HE BIG 10 DOESN'T WANT THEM, NEVER HAS IN ALL THEIR OTHER EXPANSIONS. THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT ADDS ENOUGH VALUE TO JOIN THE B10 WITH A FULL SHARE & NOT CUT OTHER TEAMS PAYOUT, WHICH THEY WILL NEVER DO, IS NOTRE DAME! THERE ALSO IS THE FACT THE ONLY FAN BASE THAT ARE BIGGER ASSHOLES & MORE DELUSIONAL THAN FSU, ARE U OF TEXAS

@fsu5452 18 дней назад

lol FSU's stadium is being renovated. Literally half the stands were bulldozed down during their Spring Showcase (not a game). Even where seats were intact, most sections were roped off because of construction. Aside from a few thousand seats in week 2 against USM, FSU sold out every ticket for their 2023 season.

@philipcasesa3998 18 дней назад

Seminole Nation would be thrilled to be a part of the B1G! We can't wait to join your conference. We hate the SEC! We hate ESPN! We hate College Gameday (Show)! GO NOLES --------;;-->

@edrhoten2211 18 дней назад

Absolutely !!!

@dougrose7334 18 дней назад

Lol only because you would never win the SEC

@danielwitt698 18 дней назад

@@dougrose7334 yet FSU has beaten the SEC Champion in 2 of their Championship seasons and beat the runnerup in another. Also held LSU to their lowest point total of the season and worst loss in 2023.Several more seasons they have beat the SEC Champions too.

@chrisvandyck7107 18 дней назад

@@dougrose73344-0 vs the “mighty sec” the last 2 seasons.

@tedharris8244 18 дней назад

Actually Seminole Nation would be more excited than ever to join the SEC where we fit in every single category

@JeffBird86 18 дней назад

Florida State joining the big ten would be incredible. Imagine the game day atmosphere when programs like Michigan, Ohio state, penn state , usc and Oregon coming to doak.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

It could Happen. But I am betting on Gator Rivalry with the Noles to stay put. Being that both are State Publicly Funded Institutions and Miami is Private.

@JeffBird86 17 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9ps me personally I’d rather keep the Miami game.

@benvargas3727 17 дней назад

Miami never ducked FSU and FSU never ducked Miami. Unlike UF who ran for the hills when the Hurricanes where whooping them every year. I hope that when all this shakes out, both FSU and UM will be in the B1G or a new conference to keep the rivalry going.

@christopherhooter1937 17 дней назад

Don't really get the fascination of joining such a geographically challenging league like the B1G. It's gonna $wear$ on fans, and it'll be VERY expensive re Olympic Sports

@JeffBird86 17 дней назад

@@christopherhooter1937 money

@rooney_nole5512 18 дней назад

Does this guy realize FSU is rebuilding their stadium? That’s why attendance was low for the Spring Game.

@30dcanon 18 дней назад

I was just about to say the same thing. Glad he does his research. 🙄

@MrDubyadee1 18 дней назад

That was not the only reason. We attended last year’s Spring “game”. It wasn’t a game. It was a “showcase”. So boring that we didn’t bother this year. I haven’t ever enjoyed pep rallies.

@jamesb0255 18 дней назад

It's always nice to hear from a loyal fan 🙄

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

FSU is Dressing their Stadium is what you meant right? Remember they just bricked off all the exposed steel. Been there many a times.... come on now.

@dougshaffer5524 18 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9psThe West sideline bleachers were torn down for new construction. The Candy Canes couldn't get enough fans to go to Hard Rock stadium, so they used the ladies soccer field.

@walterabbott5347 17 дней назад

Nole fan here. You left out the two elephants in the room,.... ESPN and FOX. They are the ones who will be calling the shots on who will go to the SEC or Big 10. Afterall, they are the ones paying the conferences and decide which geographical markets fit their footprint. As other Nole fans have commented, we don't like the snobbish SEC in general, and hate ESPN and College Gameday. I doubt Gameday will visit Tallahassee for the next 5 years as they will not be welcomed and probably run out of town by the fans!! So, I would say that FSU will likely go to the Big 10 and I think the majority of FSU fans, including this one, would be very happy about that!

@noles9998 18 дней назад

FSU would be more valuable to the Big than they would be in the SEC

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Will see wont we. Holler Back If I am right. You do not want to break up your Gator Rivalry do you? Noles are SEC bound.

@noles9998 17 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9ps I didn’t say the Noles wouldn’t be wanted or would they not go to the sec. I said the Big 10 would Value FSU more than what the SEC would.

@tomsmithdeal775 14 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9psGator rivalry has been going on for over 30 years in different conferences. What would be the difference? There is far too much bad blood between FSU and ESPN for FSU to ever even consider the SEC.

@goingrawwithhuck3047 14 дней назад

Well, FSU would make sense from a national perspective because the BIG10 would be coast to coast and have more media exposure versus The SEC and its regional programs.

@seminoldschool7032 18 дней назад

I can only speak an FSU fan (I obviously have no idea how our decision makes feel) buuut we want NOTHING to do with the eSECpn…we are B1G or bust lol

@teddy.d174 18 дней назад

Hell yeah, we’d be happy to have y’all.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Come on Now! What about them Gators? You love that Rivalry between the two State Funded Public University Programs... You Cannot Break that up?

@JohnnyJackson746 16 дней назад

Fsu definitely hates the sec. There will be no talks.

@JP-ko8jj 18 дней назад

Lets clear up somethings: 1) FSU will announce that it will be officially leaving the ACC between June and August 2024. The legal stuff will be resolved at some point, but that is not what Alford is referring to. 2) The GOR is through 2027 with ESPN having the ability to unilaterally extend the contract till 2036. From I have heard, ESPN will not pull that leaver until its knows 100% the status of the conference and its membership. ESPN has until Feb of 2025 to make that decision. 3) Rumors have the SEC and BIG 10 working together to carve up the ACC (quietly deciding who gets what.)

@walterabbott5347 17 дней назад

I'm thinking that if FSU and Clemson pull the trigger in June 2024 making it public that they are leaving the ACC after the 2024 season, ESPN will pull the trigger on the ACC cancelling, or renegotiating their media contract. ESPN is the one driving this bus and they probably already have a plan dividing up the ACC with FOX along lines of SEC, Big 10, and Big 12.

@gabeswitala2292 14 дней назад

FSU is big ten all the way. Just the academic and research benefits alone are far more then the sec can offer.

@doughotchkiss 17 дней назад

Having ESPN / FBS Committee select Alabama over FSU opened Pandora’s box. I’m certain that the Power 5 teams were insured going undefeated would propel them into the playoffs. When agreeing to the ACC contract I’m sure FSU was all in due to the benefits of being a Power 5. Was there anything said or written about a undefeated Power 5 going undefeated not being bypassed by another Power 5 team that had a loss? These discussions will be interesting. I believe FSU will hold much more leverage than the other ACC teams.

@fsugrad03 18 дней назад

Go Noles

@woahhgrassi 13 дней назад

As a fan of the big 10, I will be thrilled to see FSU join the conference.

@kodiakgriz2296 13 дней назад

As a Nole love Bi10 perspective.. this is theNFL Jr conference with actual academic balance and geographic diversification...

@jerodjones1771 13 дней назад

Yes please!! Love me some Seminoles!!

@turdfurgison149 18 дней назад

That would be cool…FSU joining the NFC…I mean…Big Ten

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

You prefer they join The Severely Educationally Challenged?? I think FSU aspires to greater things than SEC.

@turdfurgison149 18 дней назад

@@josephcernansky1794 nope. Just commenting on how excessively massive these conferences are getting

@brothermouzone1307 18 дней назад

There's no way FSU is going to the SEC. The hatred for Disney/ESPN/SEC/CFP runs deep. The current FSU administration has the goal of becoming the flagship university of Florida. We increased our R&D budget to $350 million. We are building an $88 million medical research facility. I believe FSU stands as number 53 in college rating. We are not doing all of this to join the SEC. The attendance: We are remodeling our stadium.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

Better increase that stadium to 100K+....you'll need it WHEN you join The B1G...AAU Conference!! The numbers of B1G alums living in FLA. and Atlanta region are in the tens of thousands...ALL those games will be PACKED 100k+

@jamesb0255 18 дней назад

I would not bet your house on that.

@jamesb0255 18 дней назад

We're not doing all that to join the Big ten either. We are doing all that to improve our university! Come on man use some common sense.

@lpslover8627 18 дней назад

Come to the B1G, FSU! The B1G would value you more than the SEC would. Go Buckeyes!

@brothermouzone1307 18 дней назад

@@lpslover8627 Preaching to the choir.😄😄😄

@seeknayog7262 18 дней назад

You were talking about spring crowds and Neb but never said how many Neb had.

@2528drevas 18 дней назад

FSU got rejected for AAU membership just last year, how do you sell it? Nebraska was an AAU member when they joined, and they are moving to attach the medical center to the main campus to overcome the technicality that got them removed. FSU got passed over for membership in favor of USF. Then again, maybe AAU membership doesn't matter. As my son reminded me, nobody is selling out a stadium to watch a science experiment.

@sumdude4281 18 дней назад

Those science experiments bring in cold hard cash in grants, royalties, trademarks etc. AAU allows the schools to share research is my understanding.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

@@sumdude4281 THAT is NOT how research "grants" work but there is a great more collaboration between peers. The issue isn't so much about "AAU status" as just about being a member of Club Snob. LOL Just remember.....that with the COST OF sports...particularly FOOTBALL....it NEEDS to become MORE SELF-SUPPORTING. Hence the TV ADVERTISING REVENUE is how it is going to be able to be afforded as a Semi-Pro "college" sport. ......BUT....THE REAL MONEY is made in the Backroom!!! BILLION$ in research versus chump change of a few tens of millions from the TV.

@JP-ko8jj 18 дней назад

FSU is in the process of getting things together to apply for AAU membership in 2028. FSU is currently working on getting their Hospital/Research Facility stood up on campus and one in Panama City. FSU's President (Ivy League), Athletic Director (from the Big 10) and the Board of Trustees all want AAU membership.

@nnonotnow 18 дней назад

Nebraska is not moving the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha to the Lincoln campus. The new president of nebraska University. It's a former Chancellor of UNMC. They will initiate the changes needed to connect those two institutions and move some research programs around to meet the AAU guidelines.

@mikemulrennan7948 18 дней назад

FSU is expanding their research capabilities so they are on the rise academically. FSU has made giant strides academically in the last decade and are doing more everyday!

@dlksjax 18 дней назад

The background deals are going down while the foreground legal activity is just a slight of had distraction. The ACC unwittingly has drawn the short straw foolishly thinking it still matters, it may survive as a basketball conference and a lower tier football conference.

@tarheel7406 18 дней назад

Just silly. The ACC is treating keeping FSU + others as a lost cause and is acting accordingly.

@thomasmcgowan4398 18 дней назад

University of South Florida got into AAU last year and they don’t hold a candle to FSU s academics

@powell4661 12 дней назад

@thomasmcgowan4398 further proof that no one wants to invite FSU to anything except the Big12.

@Twitz88 14 дней назад

The SEC doesn't want/need Florida St or Clemson, neither team adds any value to the conference. We already have schools in both states so ther no new tv market to tap into. And we recruit just fine Florida and SC.

@ericlofroos2405 18 дней назад

FSU has been ranked between 8th and 12th, as the most viewed team Nationally since the early 1980’s. That includes their 6 or 7 year span when they were terrible during the latter years of Jimbo Fisher, and the disastrous years under Willie Taggart. VIEWERSHIP EQUALS MONEY! Nuff said!

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

Better go check your numbers again.....although FSU is a well viewed program...they are #14 Nationally.....Clemson is #11.

@teddy.d174 18 дней назад

🎯

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

And yet you only out earned Miami by 4 Million in TV revenue for 2023 with all the numbers, wins , loyal fan base and your On Campus Bricked Curtain Bleacher Stadium. Miami is a Private U. Way Smaller Class Numbers and Not Funded by the State of Florida.

@dougshaffer5524 17 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9ps What are you new? Miami, before you decided to stab us in the back this year, also wanted to do away with the equal distribution model. Before your President decided to vote for the amended lawsuit, I supported the faction of Noles fans who wanted to take Miami with us. Now you can crash with the ACC or go to the Big 12. Maybe your beloved U should find a way to expand your student enrollment, because if you don't Georgia Tech has a better shot of going to the P2

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 17 дней назад

@@dougshaffer5524 FSU Fans are So Angry? What happened to you guys. FSU is NOT better than Miami. Nor is Miami a better program the FSU. Both have great Football programs. Except for the number of National Championships Miami has earned (5) and the 1 taken away of course in the Fiesta Bowl ( Big 12 Officiating by the Way). Seriously, you all need to humble yourselves. Take a sabbatical along the shores of the Suwanee or somethin. I did appreciate FSU still playing Miami all these decades. Especially all the thrashings Miami handed FSU ( wide rights and lefts). Think of all the National Championships you would have won if it were not for keeping Miami on Schedule. That said. Right Now, in real Time... with all the FSU Fan antics, law suits flying around, and your undersexed bloggers espousing Just How Much better you guys are than anyone... Yes I am Talking about that guy on No Fries and All Slaw on u tube. FSU as a program is turning into CFB's number 1 pariah. Toxic. Clemson Fans are not acting like you guys are and they too are looking at leaving quietly. Neither Miami or FSU needs the Big Ten, or the SEC. We can stay put, or move to the Big 12. Value is in the eye of the beholder. FSU as an institution has revealed its values. Key one being " if things do not go our way, we will sue you, impugn your motivations and discard you. ESPN didn't coach Travis Jordan to run out of the pocket without protecting himself... Not sure that your current look is an Attractive one for the Big Ten. The SEC for sure will take FSU, they are OK with a cult fan base like Alabama who poison trees when they lose. With nothing better to do in Tallahassee other than Cat Fish on the Suwanee you need to embrace whatever the change is going to be. Peace.

@NOLES-wm3ly 17 дней назад

FSU & nd would get full shares, any else- half

@MrDubyadee1 18 дней назад

Alford is a very smart guy. He’s so smart that teasing a Big10 may be a negotiating tactic aimed at the SEC. I wouldn’t get too excited yet. However, this has to go to a settlement because it is too risky for either party count on a complete court victory and time is money.

@mudcatjones9366 17 дней назад

There could be a hundred teams to join that conference, and they'd still call themselves the "Big Ten". Lol.

@louispapp7722 18 дней назад

I've been saying this about FSU for most of the past year or more. Michigan had six sign as UFA's.

@HamRadioLiveShow 18 дней назад

Craig… you better get smaller school pennants to fit another school into the Big 10! Lol!! Keep up the FANTASTIC WORK!! Larry in Oregon

@LockedOnBIG10 14 дней назад

Thank you Larry!

@RaiderWolf-yd6nm 13 дней назад

THANK YOU! Thank you for having "Big 10" rather than "B1G" in your title. "B1G" is just a graphic logo for the Big 10! It doesn't mean anything any more than writing such as "BXII" when written.

@brutussmithers6341 15 дней назад

FSU would be a great fit for the Big Ten. Makes zero sense geographically - but then again what does make sense nowadays.

@dimitri1515 18 дней назад

I wonder what the history is regarding drafting punters. How many in history and was this the highest pick for a punter?

@brothermouzone1307 18 дней назад

Ray Guy and Sebastian Janokowski. Ray # 22 and Sebastian #17 both first round. Go Raiders!

@powell4661 12 дней назад

The SEC and the Big10 and ACC don't want them after a record-breaking loss in a major bowl game.

@nolefan2012 12 дней назад

Does anyone know why didnt ESPN jump in and pay more money to ACC teams soon as they realized that the ACC was falling apart.

@fukuf 11 дней назад

It’s because they are orchestrating this whole thing!

@AngryElf2891 18 дней назад

Whats the buzz with oregon State is officially in the Big 10 2025? Fsu will be the other team to even out the teams? Thoughts?

@troywest7045 18 дней назад

While I like the Beavs, this isn't going to happen.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

That buzz you hear is beavers grinding their eat with anxiety since they didn't even get an invite to the Big 12.

@tallfir2520 10 дней назад

oregon state is not an AAU school and way down the list academically in the U.S. News and World Report rankings. They don't qualify academically or athletically (40 losing seasons in conference play since the Pac-8 was established in 1968). Their stadium holds only 36,000 fans, they don't attract eyeballs, etc. As others have stated, no power 4 conference wants them so why would a conference like the Big 10?

@ahills-plays6471 18 дней назад

Might be an unpopular opinion but as a fan of wisconsin why would teams like us and Iowa and Nebraska want added competition. What’s the point in watching if the best you can do is go 7-5 because you have to play 9 great teams every year

@fsu5452 18 дней назад

Valid point, but it's because of the unhealthy trajectory of the sport. Sport is headed toward a league of 2 super conferences, B1G vs SEC (20+ teams in each). The last few years have been about stacking as may national programs as you can to increase TV value and to campaign for more automatic bids for the expanding CFP. None of the other conferences will matter and you'll have 9-3 or 8-4 teams making the CFP.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

I already pegged FSU into the B1G schedule for 2024....THEY may go undefeated in the ACC AGAIN this year....but may face 1 to 2 LOSSES in the B1G....which STILL puts them in contention for The National Championship!! PS : Since there are 2 Bye Weeks in The B1G in 2024, FSU can fit in IMMEDIATELY in several different schedule set ups. There will be some teams though that will face 5 to even 6 "power"/"marquee" matchups. Everyone will have to play a minimum of FOUR "Marquee" matchups. Gong undefeated in The B1G even without adding FSU will be very difficult. Fos Sports said they wanted to turn The B1G into an "NFL-like" "conference" (LEAGUE)....I can see it happening and I think it may end up being a good thing.....restores "regionality" and preserves and/or renews old rivalries and/or creates new "rivalries". It will take more than 24 teams per LEAGUE to achieve this though...so...BYE BYE ACC....bye bye Big 12, At least as we know it now.

@fecat93 18 дней назад

As a Northwestern alumnus that ship has sailed with the addition of the Pac 10 schools plus the end of the divisions. I don't think any of original 10 besides tOSU and UM will sniff a Big Ten title game appearance again.

@nnonotnow 18 дней назад

Actually, Nebraska would love to have Florida state in the B1G. We have fond memories of the rivalry that we had back when Osborne and Bowden were going at it. Love to renew the rivalry Yes, we're laboring under the Big Red Kool-Aid induced thinking that we're going to be relevant again. Hey, have you seen our new quarterback!

@ahills-plays6471 18 дней назад

@@fecat93 I mean your probably right about that osu and Michigan. But I think there’s an outside chance Penn state and wisconsin could with fickle and Penn state recruits very well

@charlespowell5847 17 дней назад

As a big 10 fan it will be awesome if FSU joins the conference. Such a historic program 😊

@jamesb0255 18 дней назад

Michael Alford is a very shrewd and smart businessman. I've heard some very different things than this guy.

@tyherdlicka5189 17 дней назад

Unless the big ten changes they're mind or Florida state gets there AAU membership they can't join AAU membership is required to be part of the big ten or must be obtained within siad years

@tomsmithdeal775 14 дней назад

No it doesn’t. The B1G announced two years ago that AAU membership was NOT required. Academically, FSU is a natural fit for the B1G.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 17 дней назад

Miami will be the Big Ten's Choice. You got to know somebody. Donna Shalala.

@prmath 18 дней назад

WHY❓❓❓❓ would FSU go to the Big10 and Not the SEC East…….. 🤷 Absolutly NO sense 😱

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

FSU fans are emotional. They are NOT thinking. Not that they ever did. They tend to be all Slaw and No Fries when it comes to their team.

@tedm6567 12 дней назад

Don't forget B10 research $'s and academic cache

@andrewbrooks5573 9 дней назад

Yeah cause Florida State and Oregon in the same category conference makes sense.

@fukuf 12 дней назад

Seminole fans from up North want FSU in the BIG 10…the majority of the fans that are in the South want FSU to go to the SEC!

@robertmoyer1210 18 дней назад

According to shady sources, expect to hear FSU, Clemson, and maybe others officially file to leave the ACC before June 30th, 2024. That's the deadline for ACC teams to file to leave, play the 2024 season as an ACC member, and then play the 2025 season in another conference, or independent, or whatever they decide. That's also the last day before SMU, Cal, and Stanford officially become ACC members. Theoretically, 8 members (magnificent 7 + 1) of the ACC could make a power move and vote to disband the ACC before July 1st. After July 1st, with SMU, Cal, and Stanford, that would require 10 votes from members. The magnificent 7 (FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, NCST, VT, VA) have been meeting since at least the summer of 2023 to discuss getting out of the ACC and the grant of rights.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

I agree. They have to decide before then because then Cal, SMU and Stanford are locked into the ACC.

@tomsmithdeal775 14 дней назад

Point of correction. The deadline to file to leave is 15 August.

@benjaminhawkes6693 18 дней назад

I'm going to guess you meant circumstantial evidence, not anecdotal evidence.

@ringostarrgazer2419 18 дней назад

Think it's an uphill battle for the big ten..ESPN has the TV rights to the SEC and ACC, seems like the easiest route would be a deal brokered by espn to have them jump to the SEC while staying under their umbrella. Of course petitti could have another zoom therapy session with all the coaches minus michigan and do whatever they say too 🎉😅

@marcuswilliams5385 18 дней назад

That's illegal. This country has anti trust laws. Espn/Disney can't broker a deal with fsu to move them from one property they own to another without allowing for free market accessibility for fsu

@Rmn_ski 18 дней назад

Do you think ESPN wants to continue paying the ACC football money? They’d rather see UNC & UVA go to the SEC for the new markets for them and the SEC Network. The SEC wants them for the network, all sports and academics. FSU is most likely going to the B1G.

@fsu5452 18 дней назад

For one, ESPN can decline their option on extending their ACC deal within the next year. It would limit their TV rights to 2027. However, the more pressing issue are the current lawsuits. ESPN is fighting tooth and nail to not let their shady business dealings in the ACC deal be open to discovery. The most likely outcome is that ESPN pushes the ACC to agree to a deal to allow FSU and Clemson to leave with their TV rights (unless they choose to join the SEC).

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

WHY would E$PiN want to PAY Florida State MORE money to join the SEC?!!! And then E$PiN is still on the hook for the next several years to PAY the ACC in INCREASING REVENUE!!?!?!?!!! IT is a LOSING proposition for E$PiN to lose FSU and Clemson. They DON'T give a damn about Carolina Basketball!!! The profits from that are CHUMP CHANGE!!

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

@@Rmn_ski Irrational logic with all due respect. ESPN will pay any conference that will bring viewers. FOX has a grasp on the Big Ten. You think they are NOT going to put up a fight for FSU?

@troywest7045 18 дней назад

I believe the SEC will get first pick if the ACC schools break away. The reason being ESPN/SEC would be willing to pay higher shares. I think the B1G is locked in at at half shares max till the next deal in 2030, because that's what they gave the PNW schools last year. Outside of Notre Dame, who is only school listed in the media deals escalation clause, the school Presidents would be hard pressed to give out anything more than half shares and create unequal revenue amongst it's newest partners. Plus the Presidents are academic types who actually care about AAU, so the jury is still out if they would even consider a non AAU University. So if the Max payout is half shares till 2030 in the B1G, does ESPN/SEC offer a life raft to any ACC teams with a payout higher than half shares? I think they probably do, but i wouldn't expect full shares. Like the B1G/Fox, ESPN/SEC are in the midst of their media deal and ESPN might not be in the giving mood. ESPN just balked at paying up for a SEC 9th conference game and let's face it Disney isn't having a good couple years itself. At worst they would just match the B1G and offer half shares till the next media deal. I think the SEC would actually target UNC first, but if they are tied to State, does the SEC take them both at reduced shares or just pass, cause they only want UNC? They of course would offer FSU because they are a huge brand in a huge market, Clemson would be the 2nd team innthe same state, but Clemson is to much of a fit, it just makes sense. The 4th team i could see the SEC offering is UVA, this because it Extends the SEC footprint, instead of just protecting it, plus UVA gives them more academic points, whatever that's worth. If that happens i really don't see the B1G adding any of the leftovers, the big12 is happy for the scraps though. Until the day it comes for the big12 and it will.

@nnonotnow 18 дней назад

I have no idea what half share you're talking about for the B1G. In the past, new members have gotten a half share for a while. Is that what you're talking about? It's really unclear

@troywest7045 18 дней назад

@@nnonotnow Yes, both Oregon and Washington accepted half shares till 2030 and it's safe to assume anyone outside of Notre Dame would receive the same at best.

@tremoore9831 15 дней назад

@troywest7045 that's the most logical stance I've heard so far. Realistic and down to earth. As an SEC guy I don't know why I was suggested this video, I didn't watch but the comment section has been entertaining.

@tomsmithdeal775 14 дней назад

@@troywest7045So you assume. And wrongly. First, USC is getting a full share. FSU would, too. Fox determines how much they are willing to pay for a school. After getting into the lucrative California market with the addition of USC/UCLA, they have their sights firmly set on the third largest state, Florida, which is also the home of hundreds of thousands of B1G alumni, family and friends. Also, only FSU and ND are Top 10 in viewership and not already in a P2, and FSU has better numbers than ND. Viewership is the new currency of college football and FSU is a money machine. An Ohio State - Florida State game would be the national game of the week. FSU earned the ACC $78-81m last year which would place it in the top half of the B1G in revenue generation. Only ND could match that. Academically, FSU would be mid conference, so that would not be an impediment. So, yes, FSU would get a full share and it’s not even debatable. Fox will pay it and the B1G will offer it.

@troywest7045 14 дней назад

@@tomsmithdeal775 USC and UCLA got full shares because they we're added before the current media deal, not because of TV viewers. I highly doubt Fox offers enough for full shares and even if they did the B1G Presidents wouldn't offer it. That's a rabbit hole they wouldn't want to go down by creating unequal revenue sharing amongst it's newest members and like I said USC/UCLA is apples to oranges, completely different situation. You also have to assume any such proposal would be an automatic 4 no votes from the west coast schools and the optics of that for the B1G would be less than optimal. The only way I see FSU getting a full share is if Fox rips up the current media deal and makes a new one, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Y'all could always try the big12, I hear they got a spot reserved for y'all.

@alexa7736 16 дней назад

I just don’t understand why any ACC team would join the big 12, it’s less money and less chance for you to win the new playoffs against the rest of the teams that did not make the power to conference

@EyeCanShootFL 17 дней назад

Half the stadium is gone. The hell are they talking about attendance? And I damn sure don’t want to go to the big 10.

@mikepierce3968 18 дней назад

Big 10 realizes that Florida State has for decades been the best party school. Will it change the Big 10 image?

@heartbreak25 18 дней назад

I guess you never heard of Wisconsin during Halloween. You do know the Midwest is the beer belt right?

@user-ri4wr6cq4q 18 дней назад

For decades they were also a top 5 program.

@arby163 10 дней назад

You mean the Big 10 would lower their academic standards that much?

@krierp8 17 дней назад

Big Ten will likely poach Big 12 schools next. Kansas and Texas Tech are likely choices, but don’t rule out Arizona State and Utah as well.

@ChicagoBenAnderson 16 дней назад

Literally no one in the B1G wants either of those teams.

@krierp8 15 дней назад

@@ChicagoBenAnderson Kansas is an AAU school so why do you think they shouldn’t join the B1G? They’ll have better rivals with Nebraska, Iowa, maybe even Minnesota compared to who they got now.

@ChicagoBenAnderson 15 дней назад

@@krierp8 it’s possible Kansas could have a favorable outcome if given the opportunity. However, Texas Tech would be fighting an uphill battle, largely due to its academic standings, which is a significant obstacle to anyone wanting in the B1G not named Florida State at this point.

@gnorley 17 дней назад

FSU was renovating half of their stadium so 18,000 is acceptable for a spring game.

@DJ-iv2xo 17 дней назад

Won't this be more than 10? These are universities so i think someone would be able to count!

@mattcaruthers7832 18 дней назад

FSU to the big , Clemson to sec that’s the behind doors agreement made between the power 2 execs.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

They ACTUALLY look like better fits in those two conferences. I can see that happening. I will also say that FSU will be coming with "travel(s)." Miami? GA Tech? Then the North Carolina and Virginia schools? Two more? Or 4 more?

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Big Ten Definitely Needs a Foot Print in Florida. So Who do you think FOX will pick between FSU or Miami? Which is the Larger TV Market?

@mattcaruthers7832 17 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9ps fsu has the lions share of viewership in the acc .Clemson is second after that it’s not even close . Miami averages 8-10k for attendance unless it’s fsu game . They literally gave 2 for 1 tickets last season for their game against Texas a%m

@mattcaruthers7832 17 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9ps if we were to join the big or sec fsu would be 3rd in viewership according to charts that were presented to fsu’s board of trustees to file against the acc

@tomsmithdeal775 13 дней назад

@@ArmandoParra-gz9psThere are no such things as TV markets anymore according to many analysts who point out the popularity of Alabama football in Seattle. You can literally watch any team anywhere. And the most widely watched team nationally in Florida is FSU. If Miami is so great, then why do FSU fans outnumber Miami fans when the games are in Miami’s rental stadium? Don’t say they don’t. Everyone watching the game on TV can see it and hear the warchant. It’s hilarious.

@mattcaruthers7832 18 дней назад

FSU moves right into the top 3 of the big 10 , this conference has a lot of fluff .

@nnonotnow 18 дней назад

We'll see about that. Looking forward to it. Love to have you.

@davidkreitzer4401 18 дней назад

USC, Penn State, Oregon, FSU, Michigan, Washington, Ohio State, new look Nebraska, Wisconsin and a strong second tier that includes a team that made the CFP! What a boss conference!!!

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Not with Ugallaelelillaaaleele at QB. Is to hot in that double wide you livin in.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Not with Ugaallelieelale at QB.

@daveowens9849 9 дней назад

FSU isn't AAU. No go on the B1G.

@wa1w511 18 дней назад

Yes, BIG10 should completely re-do their schedule; over and over again. Who are we playing this week? depends

@jamesb0255 18 дней назад

Here is another opportunity for me to mark my claim at FSU will be going to the SEC. I have done this on lots of videos. And I'm just petty enough to have downloaded those videos so I can go back to all of you Big ten supporters and say.. See I was right!

@tremoore9831 15 дней назад

Hahaha... you sir, are GOLDEN!

@trclark7689 17 дней назад

I believe that Clemson and FSU will announce their departures before July 1st.

@ODUCKSFAN1 17 дней назад

I hope FSU and Clemson join the BIG10 together. Notre Dame is waiting to happen.

@adamb6370 16 дней назад

This going to be great for FSU….until they get that first schedule with November games in the Midwest. They are to loooove that 😂

@tomsmithdeal775 13 дней назад

They already have games against Pittsburgh, Louisville and Boston College. No difference.

@adamb6370 13 дней назад

@@tomsmithdeal775 yes but you also have Miami, GT, Clemson, and the Carolinas. Those may all be gone. You will be the only team in the south and outside of UF probably can’t schedule any more

@jessem7556 13 дней назад

Doak SUCKS....... everyone who has been there knows that 😮

@DJMarkCorneliusThaDon 18 дней назад

Do not let Florida State into the Big 10. The state's D.E.I. initiatives should be enough to keep them out of the conference.

@wolverinesfan9021 18 дней назад

I thought they did away with DEI? Thats a good thing. Skin color should not be considered.

@fecat93 18 дней назад

Almost all of the B1G is left of center with the exception of the Indiana schools, Nebraska, and maybe Iowa. Of the 15 states represented by the B1G only 4 have Republican governors.

@thomasmontgomeryjr7496 18 дней назад

😂 racist much

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

So, you want Didn't Earn It?!?!?!? You mean you are BIGOT RACSIST? You want QUOTAS on race and gender for the make-up of the athletic teams? Football can only have 9% Blacks and 18% Hispanics and 3% Asian/Pacific Islander and 2.5% Moslem and 2.8% Jewish with 0.000001% Tranny and LGBTQAXYZ+++ too? OK...that just make everything "equitable" and you won't get TRIGGERED and have to scream at the sky all day!

@wolverinesfan9021 17 дней назад

@fecat93 who cares lmao

@jakeMontejo3272 18 дней назад

Why would the B1G want FSU? Miami, Notre Dame, NC and Virginia seem more logical.

@SurferRC 18 дней назад

$$$$

@JeffBird86 18 дней назад

Florida State brings in more value than those schools.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Notre Dame needs to get off the Fence!

@fr0stb1ght34 17 дней назад

Because FSU is a gargantuan brand in college football with mega Florida footprint implications and high viewership for the B1G. Does that satisfy your question?

@tomsmithdeal775 13 дней назад

Because viewership is the currency of college football now. And the B1G hired Tony Pettiti to go after the money. Nobody watches those other teams and they lose money. Only FSU and ND make money.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 16 дней назад

Miami is an AAU Member. In a better/larger Viewer market... 18th biggest media Market. Tallahassee is the 105th if you include the Valdosta, GA market. Multiple Airports. Abundance of Hotels, Restaurant's, Speed Trains to Orlando and Orlando's Airport. Cruise Ship Capital of the World. Hard Rock Stadium. If you are a conference looking to add value the choice is a no brainer either Suwannee River or South Beach? The Big 12 is salivating at the thought of Miami joining its conference. Never Say Never, but lets not forget the crimes committed by The Big 12 upon Miami Football. The 2002 Fiesta Bowl. It was Terry Porter and Big 12 Officiating that cost Miami its 6th National Title and defined Miami's subsequent Fall as a Dynasty. A Call so Egregious That It Would cause Hatred of UM's administration if they were to accept an invite to the Big 12.

@ericpollitt7910 16 дней назад

FSU, ND, T&M, and UNC would be great. Still would like to see Stanford.

@powell4661 12 дней назад

T&M?

@benjaminhawkes6693 18 дней назад

Sounds really dumb to keep calling AAU membership an "accreditation". It's an invite only club. Nothing more than that. Anyone can theorhetically get invited and anyone voted out.

@powell4661 12 дней назад

But, anyone just isn't invited, and the only tossed out are schools that divested research money after obtaining membership.

@benjaminhawkes6693 12 дней назад

@@powell4661 That's not relevant to the point, on your second thought though, that's not even true. Schools that originally joined that are no longer members usually increased their research dollars the entire time (though perhaps not every year, year over year, there may have been some dips), by virtue of inflation if nothing else. The seem to prefer specific types of research as non-members such as FSU, VT, NCSU, Clemson in the ACC, Cinci in the big 12, and Kentucky and UGA in the SEC all do more research than a large number of current (and in some, most, cases recently invited) members. The point is, it is not an accreditation, it is a country club. Members have left (or in the case of Nebraska and only Nebraska as the only "tossed out" school) been kicked out without fundamentally changing the way they do business. Additionally, the method by which they are removed is a 3/4 vote to kick (the same as getting an invite). No standard of metrics is imposed, they clearly appear to have some sort of agreements by various factions to add schools (basically every top 25 USNEWS, every UCAL campus, every IVY, every UAA, and every big-10 except Nebraska, which bodes well for them to get it back at some point), and this clique system is exacerbated by keeping the bar so high to add or remove. To add to this, there are almost zero southern members before the 1980's. It was a northern thing. This makes it hard to add schools that do exceed say... Oregon, or Kansas academically and in research, which nearly every school I mentioned as non-members above does.

@lindencamelback2305 18 дней назад

Let us hope not. Much prefer Miami. And what about AAU?

@Doc_Boots 18 дней назад

Compare research dollars for FSU to research dollars to Miami…..

@fecat93 18 дней назад

Miami(FL) is a private school. If Stanford didn't get the invite there is no chance in hell that Miami(FL) gets a B1G invite. Stanford has competition history, mega-research, mega-academics, good football history, and strong olympic sports. Notre Dame is the only private left that will get an invite to the B1G.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

@@fecat93 Stanford and Berkley will soon publicly announce they are Officially joining the CCP....they were ALWAYS a better cultural fit than anything in the USA! Miami #26 in National Viewing Audience. Stanford #33. Miami trave partner to FSU, Miami becoming Wall Stret South....Stanford in Frisco Bay area

@fecat93 17 дней назад

@@josephcernansky1794 my school Northwestern used to be relatively conservative when I attended now it is full awful. Free speech is not tolerated and only far leftist ideas are accepted.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

Mistake going after Clemson and FSU if you are the Big 10. N Carolina and Miami would be better if Academics Matter. If you are a Big 10 Fan and travel on Game Days. Would you rather be in Miami or Tallahassee? Choice of Running Water or Out House? South Beach or Suwannee River?

@Doc_Boots 18 дней назад

Then Rutgers could have a permanent rival in Miami 😅😅.

@JackpotJ 18 дней назад

The answer will always be Tallahassee, a game day environment where the team actually owns their stadium and doesnt have to borrow one.

@fsu5452 18 дней назад

Armando sounds like a jealous Miami fan, so let me break this down for you. First and foremost, it's about money. FSU nearly generates more TV viewers and revenue than UNC and Miami combined. Last year, FSU averaged 4.16 million, Clemson 2.90m, Miami 2.65m, and UNC 1.93m. That data has been consistent since the ACC expanded in 2013. Second, it's about stacking competitive programs. FSU has played in 7 CFP/NY6/BCS bowls in the last 12 years. They've won a national title, 4 conference titles, and a Heisman in that period. For Miami, it's been more than 20 years since they've even finished top-10. They've never won the ACC in their 20 years as a member.They lost to Wisconsin in their lone NY6 bowl. They've won 1 postseason game (Russell Athletic Bowl) in the last 17 years. Next, comes game atmosphere. FSU has one of the best college gamedays in the country. They routinely sell out despite most fans having to drive 4+ hours in. It's on campus and provides an actual college game experience. FSU also has one of the better traveling fanbases for road games. Miami has less than half of their seats filled despite "buy one, get two free tickets" promos and being located in a major metropolitan area. The stadium is a 45-minute drive from campus and there is literally no college game atmosphere. Fans don't travel for away games (unless it's FSU) and don't add anything on that end. For academics, according to US News, FSU is the #53 university. Miami is #67. If you want to go to major cities for football, then go to NFL games. College football is about going to college campuses in college towns to watch college football. Look at every program in the B1G not named Rutgers or Northwestern. If you're looking to get murdered in the parking lot because your visiting team just won, then Miami is a great choice for you.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

@@fsu5452 "If you want to go to major cities for football, then go to NFL games. College football is about going to college campuses in college towns to watch college football. Look at every program in the B1G not named Rutgers or Northwestern. If you're looking to get murdered in the parking lot because your visiting team just won, then Miami is a great choice for you."

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

@@Doc_Boots Don't knock BTPR!!! They may one day win more than 7 games in a season!! Big Ten Powerhouse Rutgers is on the rise!!!🤣🤣

@woodshed_moments 18 дней назад

No Florida or SEC schools in the B10!

@fecat93 18 дней назад

I would like to agree, but we've took schools like Maryland and Rutgers that don't fit historically or geographically. I can understand the Pac 10 additions as the Rose Bowl history and connections are important to the original members. Nebraska and PSU bordered the original members so very logical additions.

@josephcernansky1794 18 дней назад

@@fecat93 Penn State should not be associated with the Flatheads from the Flat Earth of the Upper Midwest.

@ArmandoParra-gz9ps 18 дней назад

It is going to happen. BIG10 will Expand and FOX who owns the TV rights will force them to take a Florida Team. Pick a destination. South Beach or the Suwanee River....

@fecat93 17 дней назад

@@josephcernansky1794 As someone who loved the original Big Ten if PSU wants to leave go ahead, but you have to get the other noobs to leave also. Part of me hopes the super conference era will bring divisions within those conferences that resemble the old conferences with only minor alterations.

@fr0stb1ght34 17 дней назад

@@fecat93 I want PSU to stay, but if they want to leave, more power to them. That said, I dont think they should have let the divisions go in the first place. We're here now, tho, so let's see what happens at this point.

@garygrassler09 12 дней назад

Gayyyyy

@ct7843 18 дней назад

Any Seminole that thinks the big 10 is the best option is ridiculous...the collective athletic departments would suffer greatly Fsus recruiting grounds don't fit ...baseball would be permanently mediocre...the best players are going to play the best teams regionally...not frozen fields I'm the north. In football nobody is going to watch or travel to noon games against minnesota, rutgers, Purdue, indiana, illinois, Wisconsin, northwestern, iowa, maryland, Michigan st. Nobody wants to go to los Angeles or Newark or any of these places on purpose. The best players in the south aren't going to do it either...nobody is going to watch a 10 o'clock night game against ucla...it makes no sense athletically

@tarheel7406 18 дней назад

I agree, which is why I hope UNC goes SEC if/when it must move. FSU's hard swing to favor the B1G suggests that the SEC is a low chance invite. It's scorched earth tactics likely made that situation worse. Regardless, FSU to the B1G is a win/win for UNC even if a likely bad move for FSU.

@tedharris8244 18 дней назад

Absolutely agree FSU to the SEC is the ONLY option that makes sense for the Noles.

@shallojalloh 18 дней назад

LOL..tell me you know of college football without telling me you know nothing of college football. There are so many inaccuracies in your statements. - Ohio St..USC...Oregon routinely get players out of the south. - OSU national championships had TX and FL players all over the field. Currently.. OSU has the top 2 CBs..1 from TX and 1 from AL. - And please tell me FSUs recruiting grounds? FSU recruits nationally. Jermaine Johnson (MN) Braden Fiske (MI) Jared Verse (OH) - FSU viewership has been super strong for the past 2 decades. They travel to BC...Syracuse...Wake...Pitt..UVA all the time and the viewership is still pretty strong.

@ct7843 18 дней назад

@shallojalloh I'm talking about collective athletics...baseball is one of fsu best athletic programs..Best players won't play there if in big 10. Also the culture and lionshare of fsus large viewership will crumble in football playing big ten games at noon. Sec makes a ton of money off fsu and v versa.

@shallojalloh 18 дней назад

@ct7843 | gotcha. Ya. B10 baseball is HORRIFIC. Non revenue sports will take a hit for sure but FSU will be ok