Food That Time Forgot: Beef Steak Pie 

What about Beef Wellington? That's similar to beefsteak pie.

It's kinda odd that it's not really that popular in the US. We have pot pie but it's not the same. Closer to Shepard's pie or a casserole with a crust. But as for an actual meat pie like a Cornish pasty it's just not very common.

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@@dimesonhiseyes9134 this pie is closer to a pot pie

Including a steak pie category in the NZ pie awards

Always surprised me that the world doesnt know about the blue collar Engen combo, pie and a coke 👍👍

farmshop local to me has aberdeen angus and some long horns and I just bought a few joints earlier today, already used one on sunday roast, gonna use the rest for pies

Lived in Scotland for two years, loved the pies you could get at a gas station or the pub. Miss them here in Sweden.

I wonder if casseroles have taken over meat pies. Even with desserts, you see less pies and more things made in rectangle Pyrex pans.

I make Turkey Pot Pie pretty regularly for Thanksgiving, and it's always a huge hit. The secret is to use a sweet pie crust along with the savory filling.

@@tangydiesel1886 9x13 GANG GANG lol. It's just to easy and hard to mess up. But I still love making meat pies.

@@alpham777 same. We're always making something in them.

​@tangydiesel1886 More like sandwiches. When the Germans began their second big immigration wave (1820 to 1850), they introduced delicatessens to big American cities. With their sausages and cold cuts, they were more convenient and easier to prepare and eat than small pies, and eventually pushed that part of English cookery into near extinction. Modern American cuisine is a mix of English, German, Italian and Ashkenazi Jewish dishes with heavy Latin American and Asian borrowings too.

Seriously, being able to buy a range of amazing, hot meat pies in every gas station and convenience store one of the things I miss most from our trip to New Zealand. We got so addicted and then had to come home to the US where the best you can hope for are sad, mediocre freezer-section chicken pot pies at the grocery store.

​@sonipitts they take a little bit of effort but aren't that hard to make. You should give it a go. Best thing is they are super flexible with whatever filling flavouring you want to fill them with.

Crikey's frozen beef pies are/were delicious, but I can't find them anymore. 🙁

Is minced meat the same as ground meat?

​@@johnlongacre1I think so. What you call it depends on your origin, but it seems interchangeable.

Man I love HP so much. So glad they sell it here in Australia coz without it sausages or pie wouldn't be the same!

Mostly due to convenience and our immigration history. After mass immigration from Germany and Eastern Europe in the mid to late 1800s, German and Ashkenazi Jewish foods and their Americanized descendants became very popular and mostly supplanted our English traditional foods. Sausages, hamburgers, cold cuts, etc. Then Italian food became extremely popular in the 20th century, and now Mexican food is very popular. You can still see some English influence in American cuisine, especially in the South. I love a steak and ale pie, myself. Meat pies are very popular in South Louisiana, where I’m from, but it’s not that common in the US.

As others have mentioned there's similar types of recipes out there. Chicken Pot Pie is pretty common and it seems like the role of these recipes tends to have been replaced by types of casseroles like Sheppard's pie.

The cost. Right now as it stands in canada this would probably be a 40 dollar pie......steak is pricy now! It will feed two maybe three adults barely. Not a wise use of funds anymore.

@@flipflopsofpeaceandjustice HP sauce or brown sauce is a condiment we mostly have with meat things like pies, It comes in a squeezy bottle and has a very savory taste.

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This channel is from an American perspective. We dont really meat pies. Wish that wasnt the case, they look good.

@@jtaco4101 they literally DO NOT mention the usa in the description or video.................................................................................................................................................................................. bright spark.......................

@@shozlochshadr1536does it take intelligence to detect American accents or to actually browse through the channels videos? If you did, what you will find is this channel is American as it gets with the historical stories and recipes. Any old bright spark could tell he was speaking from an American perspective. A really dull spark couldn’t to be perfectly honest.

@@DaPeasant lol ok get mad about it?

It's the mixture of soft pastry, gravy and meat that makes the steak and onion pie a Wolverhampton tradition truly a global favourite more power to the roast beef of England inside or outside of a pie!

And football grounds, the chicken balti pie and Wolves was culinary heaven 😊

They’re a staple of pub food as well. Steak and Ale pie (and other varieties of pie) with mash potatoes, veggies and a thick gravy is probably one of the most common dishes you’ll find in a traditional English pub.

I'd have lightly floured the beef to thicken the gravy and added the mushroom ketchup 😋

How about mixing in a rue, and pairing the mushroom ketchup with worcestershire

I'd go with some onions that had been lightly sauteed for a few minutes and some potatoes. For spices I'd stick with a bit of pepper but I'm on the conservative side;).

I believe a nice gravy will also compliment the filling pretty well... Or any type of thick roasted bone and vegetable sauce...

@@craig2809 Good idea. What cut of meat would you use?

And steak pie

Come to Wigan.

@@ejames5441 come to marton, i used to eat a steak and cheese pie or 2 every day from the bakeries

glad to see the comment section full of fellow Australians haha I

As a Brit I totally agree a world without meat pies is unimaginable.

Same here in the UK - we’ve got loads of steak pies, chicken pies, and in Scotland we’ve got Scotch (spicy mince) pies

We just eat burgers, empanadas, patties, and samosas

American here. Some gas stations sell empanadas or Jamaican meat patties.

I do agree with you!

It's not as cold here as it is in a lot of the UK. This is a savory, long-cooking dish. Perfect for a chilly evening!

We’ve found better foods.

@@DeltaAssaultGaming There is no better food than pie.

Here in the midwest US chicken pot pie is the most common offering. They're typically thought of as frozen comfort food. There are actually quite good mass produced frozen ones, and delicious frozen pies from small companies if you find the right country store. I can only imagine that if I'd say "steak pie" people would think I'm crazy until I explained what it is - that's how pervasive the chicken pot pie is.

Don't forget Steak and Kidney.

Right? I would have a hard time not adding at least some onion. She left out the butter though and then dumped a bunch of water on it, so... Maybe she made this one to be a jerk? "Here you go, Blando! I'm sorry the carrots were too flavorful last time."

Out in the back woods game meat was more plentiful then veg.

@@amandahugankiss4110 You must remember it's an old recipe and people may not have had the wide range of ingredients we enjoy today.

@@nealgrimes4382 Must I? Go kick rocks, chump.

​@@fatbikeexpedition9841Yup. Fruit/Veggies out of season were not available. Meat was always available.

They'd keep that long even without refrigeration? In summer? I don't doubt it, but it's a bit surprising. I've definitely seen people leave cooked food out for a while in the modern day, but never a whole week. I guess that unopened part must be pretty important.

To add to this, in mediaeval times the pie crust often wasn't eaten and would be thicker and baked harder than modern pies. You'd put your food in a pie crust to cook and when it came time to eat you would smash off the outer crust and eat the filling.

@@RexTenomous - note that the most popular recipes used sugar and acidity (fruit pies) or salt and fat (meat pies using salted meats and lard) to aid with internal keeping qualities. Here in New England, our hottest summer weather rarely averages over 75 degrees, and a pie safe on a north wall- likely adjacent to the home dairy- above the open part of the cellar where a spring would be piped in, could easily be kept to 10 degrees colder than the average.

That's really interesting, I'd never considered that. Thanks for the historical info.

Yeah, was my thought exactly as well. Will be making pork tourterre this week. Fathers family is from Maine/ Canada and this is a common dish for us.

My family came from England to Canada, and then some migrated down into Detroit. They brought these delicious foods with them.

I’m American and I 100% agree!

Growing up in the US, while a little different my mom did make a lot of casseroles that were essentially savory pies. Beef, chicken, or turkey with vegetables in a gravy or similar sauce (often some curry with poultry) and a biscuit dough top. Often it was a good way to reuse leftovers, such as the turkey from Thanksgiving or the rest of a pot roast.

I'm American and meat pies have been in my family for generations. Idk where you live but we have English and Irish pubs in our Downtown area that sell these pies.Aldo Amish make and sell these pies as well.

Reminds me when he was doing the Sauerkraut episode and to use Malt Vinegar, and he held up a bottle of Sarsons and said 'if you can't get malt vinegar' and I was like that's vinegar to us in England XD Gotta love the little differences that even kinda similar places have.

There's various pot pies that are around, it's more that those tend to be the majority of the meal rather than just a main course. Meat handpies are common in some areas as a thing to make...just finished some with pork, potato, and carrot. I use a 2 stage cooking process for it, normally the night before I chop up the meat into bite sized pieces and dice the potato and carrot, though, for the veggies, I've started grabbing the canned ones since it's a much faster thing and I can store them until I want to make it...and less cook time. For cooking, I use a large skillet and begin with cooking down some mirepoix with butter and some salt and pepper, then I add the meat to start browning. Then add garlic powder, onion powder, nutmeg, cinnamon, cumin, thyme, ginger, rosemary, and a half cup of some apple butter and mix it to coat things, by the point that's mixed in, the meat tends to be browned on the sides so I add in the juice of a lemon with some of the zest, beef stock, and apple cider vinegar and mix until the liquid is boiling, then I add the carrot and potato and cook until the liquid is reduced to a gravy consistency, a thicker gravy but careful not to get it to thick or when you make the pie, it will end up dry. Then I take it off the heat and fridge overnight (or at least until it's cold). When you're ready for the last part, take pie crust and roll it out to a size that you're happy with and fill so that you can fold and work a seal around the edges. I put them on a floured baking sheet and add an egg wash before sticking it in at 375f until the crust is golden and browning...then I pull it out and wait 5-10 minutes for it to cool enough to eat...I tend to serve it with a coleslaw of different types with an apple dressing (Bit of nutmeg, bit of cinnamon, decent amount of apple butter, apple cider vinegar, and olive oil...mix well before putting on and mixing the slaw... At the celtic festival last month they had "cornish pasties" that were horrible and barely edible...

@astriix7067 Incorrect. Georgie Pie was a chain of stores here in NZ back in the day owned by Progessive Enterprises. Founded in 1977, 32 stores nationwide at its peak. Ceased operating late 1990s. Was meant as an alternative to the big international fast food chains starting to come in to the country. If you're over a certain age here in NZ then you'd know this. McDonalds NZ now holds the rights to the name and products and that's how Georgie Pie pies ended up on their menus, cashing in on the nostalga for the original Georgie Pie stores and products.

​@@DeValiere_Good old Georgie Pie, lucky are we to be old enough to remember

Georgie pie was trash. Local bakery infinitely superior.

@@charleshayes3610 Shrug. Was just correcting another poster that didn't seem to know Georgie Pie existed as a chain of stores. Don't have a dog in the race otherwise. My favourite meat pie growing up was made by a local bakery with its own tea rooms - never tasted a better pie since. Broke my heart when they shut down.

basically the whole commonwealth tbh, there isnt a place that once flew the jack that doesnt have every pie under the sun sold on every street corner

Evidently we replaced it with the burger. I'm all about the pies though and wholeheartedly embrace the second coming of savory pies to America

These are popular in some US regions. Mostly everyone saying it's not popular just eat too much fast food.

Jamaican patties are basically just meat pies. And delicious!

@@averylividmoose3599 In NZ a popular version is to basically add butter chicken in as the filling.

We don't really. The closest we have is called shepherd's pie which is meat with vegetables and mashed potatoes.

​@stonecutter2 shepherd's pie is a traditional British dish. Minced lamb in gravy topped with mash. It becomes a cottage pie when you use minced beef instead of lamb 🙂

I was thinking the same

@@stonecutter2 It needs to be made from real shepherds though.

We do have chicken pot pies here (I make my own), but beef pies aren’t as common unfortunately.

Go on, give it a go. You won't regret it

@@mmorph02 Thank you for your support 😀

Best to use flaky pastry on the top and stew the beef with onions and ale to tenderise before cooking.

Sounds similar to the Cornish pasty.

@@Coni2009 Same thing. Cornish miners brought it to Michigan's Upper Peninsula, now everyone eats them there.

@@stevenworden7890 Any man who likes a cornish is a man I can respect

You probably had Jon at nutmeg. 🤣

It's because we fought the Brits off, you have the queen on your money. So you kept the stupid recipes too.

Yes! This recipe is basically a proto tourtière. I came to comment about how we have tons of meat pie here in Quebec.

​@@JTguitarlessonsBro, point on the doll where the UK hurt you. lmao

I’m descended from Québécois families, so I am quite familiar with tourtière! I make it often, and serve it with apple sauce

They mostly died out in the US.

Same over on the other side of the world in Aotearoa New Zealand - as usual on the internet, methinks this is a case of something *America* forgot, not something *time* forgot.

sounds REALLY good.

Minced beef or beef mince is what North Americans call ground beef. Your mincemeat recipe is a different dish with a bit different history. Mincemeat was a special dish for the very wealthy because of the meat, suet, dried fruits and exotic spices which were very expensive. Mr. Townsend's recipe is more of a peasant or commoners dish. Most mincemeat sold today doesn't even contain meat and suet anymore.

That sounds like a variation on the ancestor of the modern British Christmas mince pie. Which today skips the actual meat and is just purely fruit essentially.

Excellent advice, thank you

How did it turn out...?

Stout is best or any dark ale

Stake and ale pie.

Hāngī pies in northland too! So many delicious meat pies.

yes, we had pot pies a lot too. My parents were children of the Depression era, except my mom wasn't born in America.

I've always wondered about them. Never had one my whole life. It's not much like shepherds' pie or pot pie. Maybe I could make one up with some venison?

@@goatkidmom Yes, absolutely - while venison is not as common in the UK, I've definitely seen a few venison pies on pub/restaurant menus over the years.

You could give that a try, it wouldn't be the same as a proper steak pie like this but there are all sorts of different fillings@@goatkidmom

​@@goatkidmomhave had a couple venison pies, a good pepper gravy and you will be away laughing. Of thr local shops selection you usually see steak, steak and cheese, mince and cheese, pepper steak, steak and mushroom, potato topped, seafood, and butter chicken.

Interesting that your exact comment word for word is in the comment section of a different channel’s beef pie video uploaded about a year ago😊. I agree on the wholesome sounding presenters-and both meat pies looked delicious!

Nice to know you are so humble.

cause we have SO MANY different foods to choose from. WE still have meat pies - probably not like yours though. Each culture changes it a bit. I LOVE the Mexican, Chinese (asian), southern, Northeastern , Italian, British, German, Hungarian, etc. versions and types of foods. Okay now I am getting hungry!

@@mchrysogelos7623 I feel sorry for you

Well, I think it was a warm apple pie that got it

Haha so true, cornflakes were invented to stem the flow of masturbation

Kellogg really needed a good therapist.

Yep, and our American cousins are definitely missing out on steak and kidney pies.

He mentioned that

We fought you off. It's not common here anymore thanks to that.

And they’re so popular in Australia in New Zealand as well.

​@@JTguitarlessons I hope you understand that that's not how anything actually works... lmao

My mother and aunt made empanadas ALL THE TIME - well not everyday, as it was a lot of work. They were DELICIOUS. They were both from Panama (which was where I was born too). And then we had a German friend who made perogis? which had meat inside the potato crust. So good.

"some women"?

Absolutely. They are not for sale in any market whatsoever… And no one really makes them here… Not sure why they fell out of favor?

Yep. Unfortunately meat pies are pretty much non-existent here in the States.

Because we fought the Brits off and we won. You kept your stupid weird foods over there. That's why.

​@@JTguitarlessons"we"? Fairly certain you didn't take part in the War of Independence or War of 1812. That valor belongs to the people who did