For Honor - How to Improve your Reads 

thanks for convincing me to download this new browser! I don't feel manipulated at all!

Lol freeze i would just bash forward option select covers everything unless they predict it. Also can you predict light attacks from neutral?

@@jeanvaljean6433 it’s a joke? freeze said “if you download this thanks for letting me manipulate you- i mean convince you” jokingly

Hello, Freeze! Can you add english subtitles? Because automatic subtitles are not correct sometimes!

Become a PeeKeeper main then you can't do basic addition

Use picture books

Embrace monke and play Jorm

become a LB main

Just option select everything then

but why not? random is unpredictable and unpredictable is hard to read. this is a joke

I live for it

“ how is it going everybody”

It's very, VERY difficult to not subconsciously form a pattern and be truly random. But I do agree that trying to mindgame someone who's playing mindlessly is impossible. If you truly want to be unpredictable, have a list of mixup options and have someone roll a die or something to randomly determine them and tell you the result. An absolute 200 IQ play in order to play like you have an amount of brain cells equal to the number that comes after four.

If he's only doing dodge attacks just counter it, they're pretty easy to parry, crushing counter or deflect.

@@jamie-cx5vr yeah it's just boring AF

Sometimes you have to be so predictable that no-one can predict it.

@@serthiag7373 Raider counters Kensei :)

I felt this....

yeah man, sure sucks that there is absolutely 0 method or means of feinting any attack with conquer

You can feint a heavy into full block.

@@saltyfart2173 C

The ability to hard feint to neutral would be great but to compensate his zone needs a nerf imo it should drain more stamina to zone with conq

Well of course :D I used to be able to parry Shaman's light after heavy or zone and now I can't even block normal lights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I thought the whole point of it was to make lights not a free parry, they are supposed to be unreactable or at least very hardly reactable. You don’t need to necessarily react to them, you can also guess the direction they are coming from, dodge on prediction of light to avoid them, if one gets through you can dodge if you think another light is coming. Lights are now viable openers and not a free parry, although they will be punished if used too much, this makes turtling unconvenient and brings the game towards a more offensive direction, which is good. Yeah getting hit by lights is frustrating, especially with how much Ubi is sparing on the animations of new heroes, and I can’t parry or block them as much as I did before. However, this makes the game more healthy and it’s almost impossible that it will always be your opponent’s turn to attack, therefore allowing you to use your own offense, if you try to turtle you will be punished, that’s how that works. What I really think the game needs is to modernize its tutorials to reflect its actual condition and to inform and instruct the new players on all the tools and core mechanics they can use.

@@cormoranoimperatore8413 with certain characters (gryffin👀) they finish up their “turn” so you get frame advantage but then they just dodge heavy back into their combo every time you get the frame advantage. So a lot of times you wind up just standing there trying to bait them out while they lightspam and dodge spam you and it’s just a weird awkward guessing game that you wind up losing. I’m not a fan of that.

@@michaeldanchez9530 I agree that it's pretty boring that way, I hate waiting for heroes to dodge attack just so that I can parry to get a very low punish.

Sorry for text wall, just wanted to say it's healthy to try other characters, especially if one character is giving you trouble over and over.

wait. goki? fast bash?

@@actuallydaneel i think he means the head butt after the light

@@actuallydaneel He means fast bashes used against Goki. They interrupt most of his armor & he doesn't have a dodge attack to counter them, like Zerk

@@actuallydaneel he means bashes against shugoki. an example would be conqueror, that matchup is hell for him.

Exactly. I have this pattern issue with Tiandi or BP but when I get forced to out think my current pattern I actually switch consistently and stomp out my enemy. But when I don't I suffer for it

@@drownsinkoolaid4203 Well if they can beat you up with them then it doesn't defeat the purpose ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

- he parried my 3 lights in a row, but will he expect.... *another light?*

@@littleman1330 Sure, maybe they will beat you up with it the first few times but , if they keep using the exact same mix-up every time, you will eventually realize what they are doing and counter them.

@@herpthederpandderptheherp633 I wrote that because his sentence sounded like a guy who gets beated by one combo over and over again. Anyways you then just change the mix-up a little and ez victory royale :D

*Cant hear you over my 3 tabbed anime battle songs and my strategy of wildly slapping with lights* -A console Orochi/Kensei

uh huh... like you can do perfect reads all the time but can't counter them? I'm confused ◑﹏◐

@@littleman1330 i think he meant when your gut tells you something but all visible information tells you another thing. When this happens you usually fuck up and get hit by whatever is thrown your way.

@@supereffective8292 nope, never happened to me. I always listen to my gut because visual stuff is broken in this game :D

@@littleman1330 i usually do that too, but sometimes i fail miserably and wonder why the hell i ignored what i was seeing lol

@@supereffective8292 no worries, I'll teach ya how to ledge if you want. No need for gut if they are dead 5Head :D

Dark reader is laggy sometimes

I have opera GX and i can also set websites to an exception.

its a whole new meaning to once you go black you never go back

i play for honor every other day for a couple hours, the game is just not fun to play unless you like a challenge. even then, its not that great lol

I sure do love the reaction based fighting game known as for honor **gets parried by a dopamine kid** "wtf turtel meta!!1!" You know you'd be complaining either way,spam or turtle meta.

@@jeanvaljean6433 not if you play on console

@@hessy4766 I play on console. I still make reads. Its no different than it was before except I've probably gotten better at making reads now. Don't get me wrong, it has some fundamental problems and sometimes some options don't beat out light spam. But tbh the game is still mostly the same as it was

How the hell do you transition from prediction to read

The fact the word “guess” is involved is the real problem though.

@@thelouster5815 everythijg infortunately haa an element of guessing, theres never goinf to be a game which doesnt have the word guess in it. You just gotta inprove the educated guessing from works 20% of the time to works 80% of the time. Analysing what mix up most wardens do allows this, and being sble k react to More things like the white flash on a red indicator, rules off more things you have to guess with. Best syep forward is guessing less (learning what they do n predicting more/ reacting better where you csn like the white flash of a parry indicator) and doing less guesses, dont guess as many times do like 2 guesses for that round then focus on mix ups n then come bqck to it again or smth like that

​@@thelouster5815 coming from a mk comp player, guessing is all fighting games

Thank you for the nice comment 🤗

If your opponent is shugoki (aka smash buttons to win), you can easily read 100% of them Alt+F4 and you won👌🏻

Well random button smashing is probably a great deal more reactable and less effective, and it's not always about an attack just being too fast to react to, reading animations already exist making many attacks "semi-reactable". It's more than just guesswork.

How you liking his buff. Personally not a big fan but it certainly benefits his play style

@@littlevenom7194 There are scenarios where it may prove useful but in most scenarios you should go instead of a light - light into light - heavy for the damage.

@@littlevenom7194 And if I like it? Well it's fifty fifty. I like him being faster, but many Highlanders are fricking lightspamming me soo that's annoying. If I wanted to light spam with Highlander I would do two lights, hold heavy which puts me in offensive stance and while holding heavy button I would lighted once, emoted to cover my guard swap and light him from the other side. If he dodges...I simply kick him or I would release the heavy button for quite a bit of damage...but that is just a theory a game theory...

HL sucks, I hate Highlanders :D :D

I wish

I like Starbucks

Bots are better because they... They are fking insane, i can't land a hit

But isn't that exactly why people hate this game? Your opponent could've put a lot of effort into trying to read you, but the braindead stuff won. If you think about any fight during that match, maybe your opponent utilized stuff mentioned in the guide? - Maybe he feinted a heavy? But since you were focussed on that one-trick-combo, he didn't get anything useful in terms of information out of it. - He also maybe actively did the right thing by trying to interrupt any advanced mixups who would net more dmg, leaving him to concede the most basic one? - If your opponent does a combo once (especially for heroes with variable timings on their bashes), one possible read afterwards is that he's likely about to change it up. That goes double if our opponent does the same combo twice. But in your example, thinking about stuff like that doesn't do anything for you. - Unless you are playing a fully geared out heavy, conceding ~70dmg (3x light - bash - light and you wrongly predicted what your opponent did after getting hit by the combo the first/second time, which is not unreasonable), you have lost more than 50% of your HP without landing a single hit (also quite reasonable if you consider WM's frame advantage after her finishers) trying your butt off to "read" your opponent while he spams the same combo without giving it any kind of thought. That is just frustrating, nothing else. And what are your options? - Parry WM's opener light -> Pure luck on console - dodge the bash -> unless you're playing a hero with a dodge attack, CC or deflect, most realistic best case scenario is you trade light attacks, but still not rewarding in the slightest. Overall, making reads to predict your opponent's next move is in the game, but there is much, much more luck involved than freeze is willing to admit.

@@KazumiyaEnthusiast Bots can know what you will do as soon as you press a button. That's why the best way to defeat a bot is to react and punish it because you will never mix up a bot. I think the only exception is Highlander toss because they will always react to the kick, most likely due to the kick being cancelled into toss after the kick is in the active dodge timing. I can't explain it any better...

@@zuituit Bullshit, it doesn't take you 3 rounds to read the opponent when he only does light-bash-light.... :D

well, force yourself to only press buttons once. Go into a match and set your goal to not press buttons multiple times. Over time you will learn the correct timing when to input certain things. It might cost you some matches in the beginning, but who cares about that. It's about getting better and once you have those moments of "yeah I did that properly", you'll hopefully also have more fun. Good luck man!

Just play normally and notice what the opponents does :/

1. Orochi's dash heavy isn't even unreactable. 2. The direction people throw their attacks is almost always patterned, especially lights because they have less time to consciously choose. 3. Even if you make a wrong read for light direction, you have a 1 in 3 chance of parrying by pure chance. All light parry punishes in the game do more than the damage of 2 Orochi lights so you'll come out ahead even if you parry randomly as long as all they're doing is light spamming. The fact you're complaining about Orochi of all characters proves you need to think about this more.

Are you implying all console people think light spam is a problem

Its not, I play on console and can confirm its not because if you use this method it works on either platform. Stop assuming all console players think its impossible.

git gud scrub

Smart man

How many times have you said nature's wrath?

FGs are all highly unreactable. FH was the outlier.

Honestly I had a similar thing, I couldn't consistently react to 500ms bashes but I could consistently parry lights going off animation. I was one of many people who thrived on the defensive meta and although the game got a lot harder, it was for the best and it feels waaaay better to play in a more offensive meta. I think some ppl just started struggling and blamed the ccu rather than adapting.

@@wizardswine indeed. I think the game is doing great tho. The community just has issues with a lot of changes because they force the player to think more than react.

Mindblown : She goes light heavy 😂

@@littleman1330 then block.

@@captin-crane3324 blocking boring, parrying for the win 😂

What made you want to go for a light parry and not the heavy?

@@jevontewashington7409 pure prediction, he hasn't done it all game, I figured he would switch it up at a moment like that

Check this video here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1hJZ4vsPKSg.html&ab_channel=UbisoftGameplan Marco did a great job summarizing it!

Get gud.

But really just practice knowing the match ups

Big brain plays

I like to do one and the same thing :)

ledge has no rep! :D

Welcome to low levels :D

I mean it's basic observe and infer

Welcome to low levels :D

How is nuxia all about reads lol when you play against her you kinda are guessing

@@jevontewashington7409 1. she throws out light attacks, conditioning you to block them, allowing her to get you with her traps. 2. If she thinks you are going to try and parry her lights, she commits the heavies, same if you move your guard trying to avoid the traps. 3. If she thinks you are going to dodge out of range of the heavies and traps, she can cancel heavy into guardbreak. 4. If she thinks you are going to roll away, she can catch you with her leaping attack. she is NOTHING but reads! That's why she can be completely shut down by players who know what she can do and make the appropriate predictions while she stomps the lower levels.

@@sawkman2092 umm people get hit with traps because of the fear of moving their guard to a different side and getting hit with a raw heavy not because you are throwing lights with nuxia and literally you just said throughout that entire comment that if you THINK someone is going to do something you do this instead that’s not reading your opponents at all lol reading your opponent would be like if you throw 2 raw heavies with nuxia and your opponent blocks them then you throw a trap as your third heavy because he just blocked 2 raw heavies in a row and yeah I agree she actually is really good character tho

@@jevontewashington7409 The reason you would think someone is going to do something is because you make a prediction based on their behaviour/patterns, ie a READ. when people fight Nuxia, they usually don't let her move through her chain, they try to attack through her traps, dodge out of range or guardbreak her because they think she is going to do a trap, that's a read. Only new players or those out of stam try to block only.

@@sawkman2092 well since a prediction is literally the same thing as a guess if you are predicting that someone will do something you are guessing lol and many people try to attack you before her trap or heavy lands because they are trying to interrupt the combo so they don’t have to deal with guessing whether or not it’s a trap, y’all be confusing reading with guessing sometimes, a correct guess is different from reading your opponent

rep doesn't mean anything!! :D

Wardens can go for the shoulder bash every time, all the time :D :D