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Ford EcoBoost Engines: Cold Start Misfire Diagnosis 

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In this video we go after some hard to diagnose misfires on a Ford EcoBoost engine.
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@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 года назад
WIFI Endoscope- amzn.to/2NXpH7h Forscan is a free Ford Specific Diagnostic Software: Download Here- forscan.org/home.html ELM 327 Adapter I Recommend- amzn.to/2GC6dBj As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
@matthewmaxwell2911
@matthewmaxwell2911 3 года назад
What would cause a load up affect when driving if i floor it from a stop the truck has power but at higher speeds 20+ my 2013 3.5 f150 is a dog it literally happened overnight. Idle sometimes is erratic and it tripped a p0016 twice.
@projectcrowdsurfer3732
@projectcrowdsurfer3732 3 года назад
I really need help on how to change a 2014 ford taurus alternator! Can't seem to figure out how to get it out. 3.5l duratec
@denneychavez9972
@denneychavez9972 3 года назад
@fordtechmakuloco does the forscan work on Lincoln vehicles??
@aspenyukon6845
@aspenyukon6845 3 года назад
motorcraft spark plugs are junk. Spark plugs are the issue not carbon.
@frankdaniels4364
@frankdaniels4364 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, great job! I like the bore scope. I bought a cheaper one off Amazon and gave it away, couldn't see anything. I bought a 300 dollar snapon and it's just a tick better. I'll give this a go.
@jeremyallen1260
@jeremyallen1260 3 года назад
You know you have a good channel, and are a great teacher/instructor when I don’t have a car or engine that has anything to do with this topic.....yet I watched all 30 minutes. You, sir, have a gift !
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 3 года назад
I hope there will be a part-2 video.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 года назад
yes!
@fastboatster
@fastboatster 3 года назад
@@FordTechMakuloco yes, definitely looking for a part 2.
@BrodeyDoverosx
@BrodeyDoverosx 3 года назад
Absolutely.
@dgarm302
@dgarm302 3 года назад
As an ST owner with 65k on the car I’m looking forward to the 2nd part of this!
@robbiegriff725
@robbiegriff725 3 года назад
Can't wait for part 2 🙂
@Kennardy
@Kennardy 3 года назад
Man, I love watching a master at work.
@timschmidt3784
@timschmidt3784 3 года назад
Brian's the best!
@rxtuninginc8444
@rxtuninginc8444 3 года назад
I took a shot every time you said good to go and now I'm hammered off my ass
@Mark-zz9rt
@Mark-zz9rt 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@ArcoZakus
@ArcoZakus 3 года назад
Mike Litorus, Every time I heard him say "Good to go" I was imagining someone else out there taking a shot. Thank you for being the designated drinker and sparing me the hangover.
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 3 года назад
THIS is what I like about you! As I've mentioned a few times here, I'm a Retired Ford Tech and Driveability Specialist. Back in the 80's, we had to DIAGNOSE Problems! Pinout Checks, Breakout Boxes, and often lots of disassembly and inspection - before we actually got to the root cause. (MUCH harder on EEC III and IV Vehicles!!!)😖 From what I've seen of Techs today - most of them operate by pure Procedure... Scan, work through the Manual (maybe), even something as archaic as pulling Coil Pack Plugs - to try to find misfires! If they do find anything - "Could not replicate customer concern" on the Ticket - and off to the Writer!!! 😠 I've seen it from Friend's experiences. WE WEREN'T ALLOWED to do that! You actually WORK the problem, like we used to do. I really appreciate that integrity still exists! Carmine ✈🚂🚙
@johnmitchell2741
@johnmitchell2741 3 года назад
I'm probably around your age but I worked on mostly GM I thought the GMs were a little easier to diagnose back in the 80s OBD1 because all you had to do was count the CK engine light flashes to get you started on some kind of path Ford seemed a lot less mechanic friendly and we won't even talk about dodge ,chrysler
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 3 года назад
@@johnmitchell2741 with the introduction of EEC-IV, we finally had SES light counting for quick codes too.... Before that - OBD was a JOKE!! Even involving things like "slamming the Driver's Door with the Vehicle in Drive", or "jumping the underhood plug, then rapidly turning the Steering Wheel, then flash the Headlights"!!! Not kidding! I will always admit, early GM OBD Systems were MUCH easier to work with. And you're right, we'll leave Chrysler out of this - especially "Lean Burn".
@ackleyengineering5413
@ackleyengineering5413 18 дней назад
I just gutted a EEC-2 and variable Venturi carb off a 80 grand Marquis coupe 351w. Hated it, so much garbage for EGR and smog. I'm in the motor City and we don't do emissions here so she's now a 400hp unleashed beast. Off loading all that crap I have the car down to 3350lbs and ultimate sleeper status. 408 stroker with a 150 shot next. Upgraded rear, trailing arms, 2002 brakes and spindles. It was fun to build and only happens because the eec 2 and variable Venturi carb had to go. At 42k miles it was rough running to say the least.
@pwrbyford68
@pwrbyford68 3 года назад
When I bought my Fiesta ST, the first thing I did was install a catch can on it. It’s been 30k miles, no issues yet. I clean it when doing oil change, it’s always got junk in it.
@braedonfroid8164
@braedonfroid8164 3 года назад
Yup same here. Just picked up a used 2016 with 47k on the clock and gonna get the BG intake service done and then get a catch can kit bought to not worry about it afterwards. Did you get just the PCV kit or one with both CCV and PCV?
@pwrbyford68
@pwrbyford68 3 года назад
@@braedonfroid8164 I have the mishimoto pcv kit. I haven’t had any problems in almost 2 years of ownership.
@braedonfroid8164
@braedonfroid8164 3 года назад
@@pwrbyford68 okay awesome, that's the kit I've had my eye on as well and I wasn't too sure if a dual kit was really all that necessary. Thanks 🤙
@williamvaughan1218
@williamvaughan1218 3 года назад
I wouldnt do the bg induction service as there is a high likelihood it will reduce the long term catalytic converter efficiency. It's not a official ford motor company recomended service. It is a dealer retail service department upsale.
@tymtrppr3
@tymtrppr3 3 года назад
As a 2013 Focus ST owner with 87k miles I would definitely love to see you clean those valves lol ty
@rikityrik
@rikityrik Год назад
I just want to say, I’ve been watching your videos for several years now (5+) off an on and you give me know impression as to being anything other than a outstanding first rate ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ auto mechanic. We’d all be lucky to have you work on our vehicles. Enjoyed this one and so many others. This video in particular isn’t relevant to anything I’ve got going on but you have helped me in the past. Your instruction is top notch!👍 Thank you, and keep it up!!
@mike_svt93
@mike_svt93 3 года назад
You have to admit, the task functions the scanner does saves time and aggravation, assuming they're accurate. Great info! Look forward to the conclusion video.Thanks.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 3 года назад
Until You learn the Ford scan tool.... Must be updated via internet every single Monday. Or it will. Not. Work. Period.
@Markomyt1
@Markomyt1 3 года назад
Speaking of trucks, I just picked up a 2018 F150 with the 3.5L ecoboost! After following your videos on the 5.4L and changing out the Timing Chains, Phasers. Oil pump etc. it has been a ride. Now I get to learn all about the 3.5!!! Thanks Brian!
@sambitar8448
@sambitar8448 3 года назад
sir, your ford scanner is a blessing on top of your qualifications. Nobody have such data and equipment at their disposal. keep up the good work and the best of luck. all the aftermarket scanners are limited and time-consuming. thank you for your effort.
@davevincent5024
@davevincent5024 3 года назад
Video to long? That's like saying the job was done to well ! Thank you again for another automotive repair/diagnostic masterpiece
@jws3925
@jws3925 3 года назад
Great video showing classic logical diagnostic sequencing of an issue especially when there are no codes set. It is amazing how the best mechanics that produce videos on RU-vid all have very similar steps they follow that, one by one, eliminates potential causes of the issue until there is only one left. Funny how this consistency in diagnostic techniques is so similar. I don't think it is a coincidence! All new mechanics should watch you, Eric O. and scanner Danner at the very least to lay a good foundation of being a vehicle diagnostician rather than a parts changer with a powerful parts cannon. Good job!!
@asian_raisin
@asian_raisin 2 года назад
well said. had a good chuckle "powerful parts cannon" guys are gonna hate you :D
@PistonShack
@PistonShack 3 года назад
Clear and easy to follow explanations. I am thinking to buy 2012 Ford Fiesta with only 147K with blown transmission, price is under 1K$ as my car project. Your videos are so helpful. Thanks Brian.
@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord
@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord 3 года назад
Buy cheapest Mazda 2( Fiestas twin that has none of its faults) it will be cheaper than your project, put it apart and back for fun/ learning not cause you have to, drive it like you stole it, 2 was built for that not to be service dept cash cow like Fail-esta
@PistonShack
@PistonShack 3 года назад
@@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord Thanks for an advice!
@PistonShack
@PistonShack 3 года назад
Fail-ESTA))) Haha!
@davyarthurs
@davyarthurs 3 года назад
In the UK we wouldn’t be using the word ‘only’ with 147k. For a fiesta that’s worn out! (And I like my Fords). With Ford’s 1L Ecoboost, 147k would be pretty much unheard of!
@PistonShack
@PistonShack 3 года назад
@@davyarthurs Hahha, I have never heard about it) Might be in Canada we have better Fiesta...
@johnstrodtman1801
@johnstrodtman1801 3 года назад
I truly enjoy all of your videos. I recently just started working at my local ford dealership. Your videos have helped me immensely
@-DC-
@-DC- 3 года назад
All off these pure DI engine's are a carbon time bomb you can see why the better OEM's are going to a dual injection set up, great content as ever 👍.
@brianemory1593
@brianemory1593 3 года назад
Something that helps with that is a catch can. I have one on my eco boost and it is an engine saving device. You would not believe all the oil, water and unburnt fuel I get out at every fill up.
@williamGSXR110
@williamGSXR110 3 года назад
You mean just like how Ford's I3 Dragon engine uses direct injection for high load circumstances and port injection for everything else?
@406Steven
@406Steven 3 года назад
I've never been as nervous about a vehicle as when I found out my Subaru has direct injection after buying it. I've got just shy of 18k miles on it currently and plan to do induction services every 30K but I don't expect that it's going to be trouble free. I'm not going to do a catch can or any kind of modification because it's under warranty and I bought the 10 year/150K mile extended warranty and don't want to invalidate that by modifying any of the original systems.
@tails300
@tails300 3 года назад
@@williamGSXR110 my Toyota Corolla has both.
@rxtuninginc8444
@rxtuninginc8444 3 года назад
Meh i have 345,000km on my GDI non turbo. I think its more a problem on turbo charged GDI engines.
@dogewisdom9921
@dogewisdom9921 3 года назад
Got a Focus ST. Watched the whole video 👍🏻I cleaned the valves by soaking them with CRC valve cleaner, scrubbing them vigorously with a small circular nylon brush, than vacuumed out the gunk. Repeated the process many times until the valves were much cleaner. Couldn’t get them to factory new by the massive carbon buildup was gone. Than I installed a mishimoto catch can.
@chasekeller8735
@chasekeller8735 2 года назад
Thanks for the information. I was thinking the same thing but boss man wasn't convinced until I showed him this video. Thanks brother
@litigiousfeline
@litigiousfeline 3 года назад
Dude, even if you uploaded a cat video, we'd still watch it. lol
@tsgarage2382
@tsgarage2382 3 года назад
lol
@GusMahn
@GusMahn 3 года назад
One of my coworkers had this same issue with his ST. His was even setting a code for misfires within so many revolutions after start. His solution was a good intake valve cleaning, PCV catch can, and adding a Meth injection kit. He runs hard enough to activate the meth and hasn't had any issues in 4 years.
@bnelson313braveheart
@bnelson313braveheart 3 года назад
Great troubleshooting discipline.
@1976Datsun
@1976Datsun 3 года назад
Hey, I have watched all of your videos and I can't remember any where you talked about a "carbon issue". You kept saying "carbon issue" and I kept thinking "what is he talking about?" It took until the very end of the video for me to realize that you meant carbon buildup on the intake valves. And, you seemed very confident, but the problem was on 2 and 4 but you said the PCV enters at 2 and 3. So, really looking forward to the next video to understand what the real problem was. The diagnostics were great. But I didn't see a real solution at the end. Love your channel, keep it going.
@ImGumbyDangit
@ImGumbyDangit 3 года назад
Fantastic video. That scan tool is great. I have a 2013 Ford Escape with the 2.0L EcoBoost at 280,000 Km and it's still runs great. I have heard of the carbon build up on the valves, but was not aware of the trouble that can cause. I hope you get to part 2.
@erickrosito3659
@erickrosito3659 3 года назад
Heard that before. After you do the hard diagnostics, the customer says, “I don’t have time today, but, I’ll bring it back”, never to be seen again. They take it to their tech and have then do the repair
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 года назад
That is so true but in this case he brought it back for repairs.
@denneychavez9972
@denneychavez9972 3 года назад
Hopefully that video is coming out soon!
@FORDTECH313
@FORDTECH313 3 года назад
I’ve seen that many times and most of the time the vehicle returns on a tow truck after getting our diagnosis take it to there tech comes back job not done right and can I please get a discount
@erion8053
@erion8053 3 года назад
educational video for us non truck Ford ecoboost owners. I hope you’ll upload more often videos of troubleshooting small ecoboost Fords and usage of IDS diagnostics system . This kind of information is rare on yt Thanks
@stephenmoxley3004
@stephenmoxley3004 3 года назад
Great video, Brian. I have two cars with the 2.3L Ecoboost and have decided to put catch cans on both of them. Hopefully, this will prevent the carbon buildup on the valves. Looking forward to see part two; cleaning the valves. Interested to see how you do that job.
@smigletat9634
@smigletat9634 2 года назад
Same here but a 2013 150 fx4 Its been installed now for over a year.. Love IT!!
@asian_raisin
@asian_raisin 2 года назад
I'm not sure if it prevents it but rather slows it down. my 2cents anyways
@nunika1975
@nunika1975 3 года назад
Aussie 2014 Ford Falcon with the 4L inline six running on LPG (EcoLpi). Same issue and mine turned out to be a bad intake gasket. Decreasing the spark plug gap from 1.1mm to 0.9mm also helped getting rid of cold engine missfire. I use Forscan to check for missfire.
@marco206cr
@marco206cr Год назад
you are really someone who knows his job very well and how to explain in a simple way to those who do not know. i have the same problem on a 1.6 ecoboost, at idle you hear from the exhaust exactly the same noises you show in the video, but why if I turn on the climate the noises disappear? I hope you will find the time to answer me. thank you for your availability.
@QtheMisanthrope
@QtheMisanthrope 3 года назад
That compression test is cool as hell I've never seen that before
@johnmitchell2741
@johnmitchell2741 3 года назад
Man the fun I could have with a scan tool like that even if I know exactly what the issue was I'd be running thru all the test just for fun like you thanks.
@thelefthandedshooter5760
@thelefthandedshooter5760 3 года назад
Good video. Too many times we make the assumption we know what the issue is then test to proves ourselves correct. A methodical standard test procedure is the right way to go to be sure.
@MrGregson23
@MrGregson23 2 года назад
My 2013 Escape with the 2.0 liter Ecoboost engine was missing badly from 2000 to 4000 rpm. No error codes. The engine has been dealer serviced every 5000 miles and now has 120,000 miles. I put in new Iridium plugs at 100,000 miles. Lately, I have been driving short trips only and the engine sputters when accelerating. I decided to replace the spark coils. The engine runs 90% better. I used Motorcraft coils, because I hear that some other brands may cause radio interference. They are easy to replace in an hour. The cost of about $220 seems worth it, and Rock Auto got them to me in 3 days. I'm still getting some burble noise from the exhaust system near the cats or turbo. My mileage has improved too. So it seems true that the "coil on plug" coils do get weak after 100,000 miles.
@GKnee72
@GKnee72 3 года назад
I love trucks! Just got a 2005 F150 5.4l going from a 2004 F150 three valve 4.6l which I loved! I'm not wild about the 5.4 but gonna give it a try and hopefully it'll do me good!
@huntermiller3832
@huntermiller3832 3 года назад
I've said it once and I'll say it again your videos are top notch and I learn something new every time you post. Thanks for what you do man it's awesome!
@michaelmurray121
@michaelmurray121 3 года назад
Gm Brian always enjoy watching your videos blessed love friend...
@kevinparr4823
@kevinparr4823 3 года назад
Fantastic video can't wait to see the 2nd part. I had one of those cars in England for 4 years never missed a beat, fantastic to drive too. I really regret letting it go... I have a fiesta st mk8 now, good car but not as good as the focus.
@kc360awareness
@kc360awareness 3 года назад
Great video Brian. As always VERY thorough and informative. Please show the fix if it comes back into the shop. I’ve seen a couple of GM DI nonturbos with carbon issues. Never actually seen an ecoboost carboned up first hand.
@RaddestDad
@RaddestDad 3 года назад
I’d bet the GM vehicles don’t have nearly the carbon issues as the ecoboosts do.
@kc360awareness
@kc360awareness 3 года назад
I’d venture to say it’s likely worse. They sticky gummie gunk in there was pretty bad.
@841k9
@841k9 3 года назад
@@RaddestDad No, our GM fleet engines are torn down too frequently to have carbon issues in 5.3s and 6.0s. I don't tear into the 4.8s or any of the car 4 cyl cars engines we run. They're not worth saving. The simple old 4.3 v6s are the only modern GM engines we don't have to mess with. Fleet use finds the problems fast.
@EverydayJ1786
@EverydayJ1786 3 года назад
Very surprised that none of the other shops recommended an intake valve cleaning service
@guyincognito83
@guyincognito83 3 года назад
The dealer or any shop do the intake service on a Ecoboost. If a chunk of carbon breaks off it can damage the turbo. Some get lucky others don’t. Depends on how dirty it is, manual cleaning is recommended on the.
@johnmitchell2741
@johnmitchell2741 3 года назад
Thats why you should be very concerned when you take your car to be repaired even the dealerships have under trained Technicians ,its a cutthroat business you typically get very little $ to diagnoses a customer complaint especially if you don't have a trouble code for reference most technicians only make minimal flat rate when they are actually doing the repair it's a hard way to make a living that's why I got out of working at dealerships and small shops and started working on heavy equipment for a large municipality with and a decent hourly wage.Retired now at 60 with a neck and lower back fusion to show for it.And even though I'm a hurting unit NOBODY TOUCHES MY CAR BUT ME
@EverydayJ1786
@EverydayJ1786 3 года назад
@@johnmitchell2741 very true and funny that you say that. I'm a auto technician at my local municipality as well. Way better work environment, wages and pension . I'll never go back to dealer or private shops either !
@johnmitchell2741
@johnmitchell2741 3 года назад
​@@EverydayJ1786 Your lucky your one of the few that figured it out
@greathey1234
@greathey1234 2 года назад
You are a legend. The most comprehensive and detailed analysis of any YT video of this issue. I had exactly the same problem in my 2015 Mustang EcoBoost which I use very rarely . I thought it was a cracked head gasket but I think carbon build up is the culprit.
@dabombcra
@dabombcra 3 года назад
It is amazing how much is computer controlled. Reason why I bought an extended warranty on my F150
@greasee.monkey7224
@greasee.monkey7224 3 года назад
Another awesome video. As a tech who spends a generous amount of time working on Ford engines, you have been a encyclopedia of information over the years. And I believe we have come full circle. I recommended you to my coworkers & you are the first place they go for Ford info now. And a week or so ago, I had a good friend who works for Ford(Manufacturer not dealer) recommend you to me. It's been a great ride & I'm in for the long haul. Thanks Brian!👍👍
@andyclemente4205
@andyclemente4205 3 года назад
Pretty good man. I like the way you approach the concern 👍
@hialeahhigh
@hialeahhigh 3 года назад
Thats why a catch can is so important to have on these D.I engines
@shadowbanned69
@shadowbanned69 3 года назад
I'd like to see this carbon issue..I was leaning on a crack in the intake or a bad seal on the mating surfaces of the intake. Seen this alot on the vortec v6 with those plastic intakes...sucks
@cessealbeach
@cessealbeach 3 года назад
plastics, good MPG
@D2O2
@D2O2 3 года назад
That scenario, a vacuum leak,, could have been ruled out if fuel trims were very positive at idle and corrected at high idle.
@Photostudioww
@Photostudioww 3 года назад
Vortec v8 same problem plus the head gets pitted.
@CORZER0
@CORZER0 3 года назад
Damn. your channel got huge! Congrats!
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 года назад
Thanks!
@thomasdarwin6174
@thomasdarwin6174 3 года назад
That's a mean sounding 4 cyl - great video - looking forward to the cleaning
@jgeorges3061
@jgeorges3061 3 года назад
BRIAN, AWESOME no way it is too long video it is a pleasure and enjoyable to learn from you always good information u share thankyou and cheeeers.
@sergiodjf
@sergiodjf 3 года назад
Definitely you are the Ford guru! 💯💪
@TheEquivalentXchange
@TheEquivalentXchange 3 года назад
Plug gap is a big factor when it comes to the ST and RS. 0.026-0.028 is usually the best gap to run since the gap expands over time. Purge Valve also is another culprit to look at replacing since these are known to seize up over time.
@anthonymalfino1
@anthonymalfino1 3 года назад
Great vid. I have a 2015 also. You did a video about six years ago on catch cans for ecoboost motors. I run radiums on both sides. My valves are like new. Im sure that if you look at the valves they have all kinds of build up. Walnut blasting will fix it. Most people that have performance di cars do it. VW, BMW, etc. all the same problem. Misfire due to carbon build up. All that carbon doesnt allow the right amount of air flow for proper combustion and the ecus are very sensitive. Great vid as always!!!
@cruisepix
@cruisepix 3 года назад
Never too long! I have a 2013 Fusion SE 1.6L ecoboost 22k on the clock (wife's car), change oil every 2k and it stinks like nothing I've ever smelled in my 25+ years twisting wrenches! I'd love to see the carbon clean video!
@dewrus2153
@dewrus2153 3 года назад
Thanks for another solid video. I subscribed to your channel for the F-150 stuff...but I certainly love to see videos on other Ford vehicles, as well! Please feel free to cover them all! Cheers!
@ericneering6357
@ericneering6357 2 года назад
I love your videos and I love that you’re man enough to say you put an engine in and then found out after you did it the problem it’s happened to me a few times and people have been really harsh to me about it and I found out afterwards they did it I didn’t need a whole engine only needed this or that so keep doing your videos trust you a lot because you don’t hide your mistakes keep doing you
@genghis_bob6214
@genghis_bob6214 3 года назад
Been trying to chase down a misfire on my Fiesta ST. This video was great, thank you!
@f150lightningboy
@f150lightningboy 3 года назад
How do you know its misfiring? Is there a code set?
@rxtuninginc8444
@rxtuninginc8444 3 года назад
@@f150lightningboy sometimes you can just feel it.
@troycayias695
@troycayias695 3 года назад
Thanks for the info. Definitely hope to see how the intakes are cleaned
@VerMillioNaZ
@VerMillioNaZ 3 года назад
YES FINALLY!! This is the video I have been waiting for. Thank you for posting. This will get me going in the right direction. And all this data is available in Forscan?
@johnwaby4321
@johnwaby4321 3 года назад
That's what its all about working the problem and not playing the guessing game 👍👍👍
@natewarman122
@natewarman122 3 года назад
Excellent video... very glad you showed us this
@Lone-Wolf87
@Lone-Wolf87 3 года назад
Will be waiting very anxiously for the second part. 😬😬😬
@thesteaktc
@thesteaktc 3 года назад
Great video. These carbon issues scare me. It’s like just a matter of time until it’s going to happen.
@tails300
@tails300 3 года назад
Unless you’ve got a Toyota with a combination Port/GDI system.
@gpslightlock1422
@gpslightlock1422 3 года назад
Are there any known examples of 300,000 miles on one of these EcoBoost engines? I wish Ford still made the straight 6, 300 CID motor. It was a workhorse good for .5MM miles easy. Today they take these small displacement engines and run them very high RPM and I just can't see them lasting 200k or 300k miles. Reminds me of when we went to the Bic lighter - use it and destroy it. Love your work brother. Keep up the good work.
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 3 года назад
With original equipment? Likely no. The Turbo's are only rated for about 150K miles, and MANY don't make it to 100K...ask me how I know...yea..$3K total repair bill, turbo's weren't bad (price wise, about $700 each which isn't bad considering Ford used to pay $3500 EACH for them a few years ago), but the manifold is shot on one bank and has to be replaced as well. I know people with 500K miles on Ecoboost engines, but they've changed out the Turbo's.
@icyhotmike
@icyhotmike 3 года назад
You should never buy a turbo car if you are not mechanically inclined. Ecoboost will last longer than any GM rocker panels ever have..
@RaddestDad
@RaddestDad 3 года назад
@@icyhotmike you’re high. An LS motor is silly simple. An ecoboost engine is anything but simple, with vvti on both intake and exhaust, the water pump is behind the timing cover, plus you’re adding 1000F heaters right next to the motor.
@RaddestDad
@RaddestDad 3 года назад
@@icyhotmike I have a 351W that has only ever had a water pump touched on the motor and it has over 360k miles.
@PsalmFourteenOne
@PsalmFourteenOne 3 года назад
You should test drive a ecoboost sometime. They don't have to Rev high. They all make their max output power before 3,000 RPM's! We have a 1.6 ecoboost in the fire escape. Full torque at just over 2000 rpm. It rarely revs to 6k. And I have 3 5 V6 ecoboost in my F-150. At 70MPH it stays in overdrive on the big mountain grades at just 2,000 rpm. You can't do that with a non turbo V8. Not in a Chevy, dodge etc. My ecoboost in the truck shifts well before 6000 rpm. It pulls hard at just 3000.
@steveneldridge6787
@steveneldridge6787 3 года назад
When the 1.6s came out I experienced this at the dealership. Had a car with a misfire on start but could never get it to misfire after warm. After looking at Freeze frame data it only did it on initial startup. I finally talked the customer into leaving it. I pressure tested the cooling system with the engine cold, pulled the plug and scoped the cylinder. Sure enough a head gasket leak could be observed as a tiny droplet formed and started running down the cylinder wall coming from in between the head and deck. Tore it down and ford ended up sending a long block.
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 3 года назад
Thanks for a view into diagnostic tools you use. It's impressive what you can learn by using the engine sensors. That's quite interesting about carbon on the intake valves. I'd enjoy seeing you making the repair.
@tattoochef
@tattoochef 3 года назад
Awesome stuff! Thanks for taking the time to drop some free knowledge! Much appreciated 🙏
@mikeschafer2474
@mikeschafer2474 3 года назад
Nice to see you do a Ford focus ST which is my daily. Hope he brings it back and you’re able to do a video on the carbon cleaning.
@FocusedHands
@FocusedHands 3 года назад
What you working on a Focus again.... nice!
@380.motorsports
@380.motorsports 3 года назад
Great video and your step by step approach is very helpful. Thanks.
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 3 года назад
Every time you do an Escape video or EB 2.0 video I feel like I’m driving a ticking time bomb. 121k miles on my EB 2.0 AWD Escape. So far purge valve and AC clutch have been the extend of repairs needed. I’m hoping to get 200k out of it.
@johnp.5134
@johnp.5134 3 года назад
I'm actually relieved you have that many miles on yours. I have a '15 Fusion 2.0 AWD and I plan on keeping it as long as I can and I keep reading about coolant in the cylinders but I guess that's mainly the 1.5 EB. I'm currently at 45k miles.
@JustinLaNoue
@JustinLaNoue 3 года назад
Carbon cleaning is really the worst case and that's not at all the end of the world. The 2.0s are pretty good engines I wouldn't worry.
@billgarbutt7844
@billgarbutt7844 3 года назад
I am on my 4th 2.0.All have been great.Transmission..eh,you know.But 2.0 Ecos are pretty darn bulletproof.Good luck.
@JustinLaNoue
@JustinLaNoue 3 года назад
@@johnp.5134 a family member has a 2014 1.5 Fusion closing in on 150k miles. Nothing done to it so far.
@sjn7220
@sjn7220 3 года назад
@@johnp.5134 We had our 2.0 ecoboost replaced on our 2017 fusion due to coolant intrusion. It was at about 30k mi, covered under warranty. Just keep an eye on coolant level. I happened to notice ours was often low and just happened to run across the TSB on this.
@MJC-GSXS750
@MJC-GSXS750 Год назад
Hey so I installed a new ford engine into my 2018 Mustang ecoboost, and I think I’m getting ghost misfires 👻. I’ve checked coil packs, spark plugs ect. Only happening on cyl 2/3 . The codes I get are p0316,p0300,p0302 and p0303. Seems to be only on start up. I’m praying once I get this procedure done, it will fix my issue 🙏. Thanks for this video, as it’s definitely helpful 👍
@HR-od9fl
@HR-od9fl 2 года назад
The live data is impressive 👍
@paulfiebke3909
@paulfiebke3909 11 дней назад
Loved it keep up the good work
@Ryan96se
@Ryan96se 11 месяцев назад
I'll be watching this as well. I have 91K on mine. Mine starts good when it's cold and rich. Most of the misfires start right after the initial rich idle starts to lean out and the idle just starts to waver on coming down. Kinda bounces a little before the final drop off and true idle. Then maybe a few misfires after a warm idle is reached but then cleans up after operating temp is reached. Just like this engine is doing but not quite this bad of a miss...yet.
@awudubannaf8608
@awudubannaf8608 3 года назад
This is absolutely awesome video....... Thanks 👍... We're waiting for part 2 of this video
@elcheapotravel5914
@elcheapotravel5914 3 года назад
I have a car doing exactly the same, i will take a look at the valves good info
@adamp9377
@adamp9377 3 года назад
I had a explorer sport eb with p0171,174. Lt 23 percent both banks, under all conditions. Passed every test on the ids, including injector flow. Passed every ppt. Replaced all 6 injectors, fuel trims were perfect. Can't trust injector flow test.
@gmtech2012
@gmtech2012 Год назад
I'm a GM dealer tech and I see several misfire cases every week. Mostly it's cold start carbon issues and I'm still trying to come up with a way to prove that it's the carbon. I'm still running intake manifold pressure tests and seeing if a carbon issue actually changes the flow in the manifold compared to other cylinders, or cylinders that aren't misfiring.
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 3 года назад
Thank You Ford Master 😎😀👩🏻‍🔧 You are The Best Cant Wait Till You Do Part 2
@davidkelp9444
@davidkelp9444 3 года назад
It was not too long. Very informative.
@JP-uk9uc
@JP-uk9uc 3 месяца назад
Ethanol is just a fancy word for alcohol, it leans out the mixture and therefore causes a misfire when cold in my ST. I've confirmed it several times. The engine needs to be warm before it goes away. The only time I'll put ethanol in the tank is when I'm on the highway all the time. To solve the issue I fill up with ethanol free fuel at a co-op.
@deanmarsh1452
@deanmarsh1452 3 года назад
Changing oil frequently helps too. Less junk in the pcv to bake on the valves.
@meggatron3
@meggatron3 3 года назад
Great video straight to the point no playing around trying to get views i love it
@ak2112
@ak2112 3 года назад
Had a 2015 ST bought back by ford (after 19k miles) for misfire CELs on cold starts. Issue started at 6k and ford just chucked parts at it. Injectors, plugs and even a HEAD. None of it fixed it and they bought it back for full value (after a lot of fighting). Got a 2016 replacement ST and it had the CEL misfire at cold start pop on at 15k. THIS TIME, Ford was smart (different dealer +a new recall) and determined it was the PURGE VALVE causing the issue. New purge valve installed and the car has been mint ever since (currently at 40k). You'll know it's the purge valve if the car surges at parking lot speeds in 1st gear on cold starts.
@gideonkatz3325
@gideonkatz3325 3 года назад
Thanks for all help!
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 3 года назад
AutoZone would of told the customer he needs a new O2 sensor. lol Excellent info and diagnosis Brian.
@iarpak
@iarpak 3 года назад
We switched to 2018 Ford Escape SEs for our 5 regional managers back in '18, with the 1.5L EcoBoost. All serviced by the nearby Ford dealer. One of the them has had issues with loss of power and rough shifting for about 18 months but dealer always said couldn't find anything. Earlier this month, when it lost power again while driving, dealer diagnosed a bad transmission with an estimate of $7700 to replace. At 89k miles!!! We're done with Fords at this point. It's utterly ridiculous that a modern vehicle transmission would go out at 89k.
@billkrause4585
@billkrause4585 3 года назад
Tip/s: What if you applied a can of Intake Valve Cleaner, maybe that will help those carboned up valves to seat better. I did that to my Ford Ranger XLT 4.0L and the guy who did the emissions tests at the Ford Dealership say the results were really good for a truck with 174, 000 miles on it. I too use Seafoam to a full tank of gas at times for the injectors, and use 5 ounces of Seafoam in the oil crankcase 50 miles before a oil and filter change and add it to a fresh oil change too. It helps things like the push rods, rod guides, and rocker arm lubrication & etc. It frees things up. Well, the engine is quiet and purrs at 174,000 miles anyway because of it. Also install a new radiator cap to assure not to overpressure the cooling system. If you shut off the engine and get gas bubbles in the antifreeze reservoir, you probable have a head gasket leaking. If you can't find a vacuum leak, replace the inexpensive EGR & PCV Valve to eliminate those. I had my truck for 19 years, I know a little bit that helps it run. Take your vehicle out the road and blow the carbon out of it the old timers would say. I take my truck out the highway and hit the passing gear a few times, ... you know, hit the gas pedal to the floor and let it down shift (passing gear).
@anthonymorales148
@anthonymorales148 3 года назад
+1 on the carbon cleaning video
@derekalexander7330
@derekalexander7330 2 года назад
Good teacher
@Dr650rob
@Dr650rob 2 года назад
I just changed my plugs and now I have a fault cylinder d code. I've been having codes 420 and 430 for both cats, this is on the 3.5 eco, It did it on a really cold start. I also used gdi crc cleaner bf I changed the plugs
@davea2288
@davea2288 3 года назад
From my understanding of the EcoBooost engines, there is a small amount of exhaust push-back into the intake runner because of the way the engine's valves are timed to make large amounts of horsepower. Because of that, and because of cylinder gas direct injection, there is no injector to provide gas spray cleaning on the backside of the valve. So, hot gases deposit themselves on the backside of the intake valves and the intake head chambers and condense and build up as carbon deposits. That makes the engine oil changes crucial to the life and proper running of these engines. BMW engines have the same problem and BMW has a method that uses walnut shells to remove carbon build-up on the intake cylinder ports and valves. in a sand-blaster-like manner. It is also my understanding that Ford engineers have yet come up with a Ford-approved method to deal with this.
@Watchout1010
@Watchout1010 3 года назад
Seafoam soak ⚡
@tim7757
@tim7757 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this thorough guide to troubleshooting misfire. I have a 2.0EB which is throwing cylinder 3 misfire that I'm trying to track down. I've downloaded Forscan and purchased ELM adapter but my Forscan program looks quite a bit different than yours. And I don't see anywhere to monitor cylinders like you've shown in this version of the app. Anyone else experience the same? Do you have to purchase extended license of Forscan to get access to cylinder monitoring?
@oakleyjack7600
@oakleyjack7600 3 года назад
Excellent diagnosis Doc , 😊👍🎩😎
@marathonfreak67
@marathonfreak67 3 года назад
Solid video. Great diagnostics and explanation. As you went through the initial software checks my mind was running parallel. Basically check fuel, spark and compression. When did carbon buildup-based misfires even become a thing techs had to think about. This is silly in modern engines. The diagnostic software isn't FORScan, right? The video has a link to FORScan (good software for basic stuff) The video seems clear that this is not FORScan but the description links to it.
@asian_raisin
@asian_raisin 2 года назад
Thank you so much kind sir. I just bought a usb obd scanner off the links. I'd buy you a beer if I could.
@62ejo
@62ejo 3 года назад
Thxs great info..Would love too see the repairs when the customer brings the car back to the shop....
@johnmitchell2741
@johnmitchell2741 3 года назад
When the customer found out how much it was gonna cost to clean the valves he decided he could live with a cold start miss fire
@billyray94
@billyray94 3 года назад
Very methodical... I enjoy watching how your mind works when diagnosing a problem.
@arnie1928
@arnie1928 3 года назад
I have had a bunch of the 2.0 with carbon buildup. I work at a Ford dealership in SoCal. Would like to see how you do the manual cleaning in a future video.
@JSW42
@JSW42 3 года назад
Most often carbon affects all the valves. It causes a hesitation, when cold, but rarely a single cylinder misfire. A partially plugged injector would be my first thought. It would affect the engine when cold but less when hot.
@Nashic12
@Nashic12 3 года назад
Doing a engine in one of these at the moment, Cylinder 1 about 50psi compression. Rings are shot, have done a few 2L ecoboost for low compression. If it's not low comp in these ecoboost 4 cylinders it's coolant leaks........
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