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Ford Expedition (and F150) Ecoboost 3.5 can phaser rattle fix with pre-oiler 

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@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 2 года назад
I'm going to short clip this and make a intro video and direct people here to see this
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer 2 года назад
Feel free sir. Happy if this can help someone.
@clearcut6818
@clearcut6818 2 года назад
This is bad advice
@infotechsailor
@infotechsailor 2 года назад
@@clearcut6818 how so? It's a pre oiler. Been used for 75 years
@clearcut6818
@clearcut6818 2 года назад
@@infotechsailor because this issue has been fixed in the factory
@johnnyfroese903
@johnnyfroese903 2 года назад
you should do a follow up on the kit on how its been working?
@noway12510
@noway12510 Год назад
he sold the POS and got a Tundra
@andywolf9778
@andywolf9778 Год назад
My 2015 f150 3.5 EcoBoost developed a rattle. instead of bringing it in I did some troubleshooting. Thankfully In my case it was failed clamps on the muffler heat shield. Easy fix!
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 2 года назад
Video is up BTW
@rogerdc7279
@rogerdc7279 2 года назад
This looks very interesting. I have a 2008 F150 5.4L 3v, and when is cold i can hear a creaking at startup. When I use "flood mode", as per Rich recommendation, there is no noise. So.... I think this sistem is a step up. Thank you Rich and thank you Tommy
@flexjay87
@flexjay87 2 года назад
Looks a good product, and job well done.
@dcheynerl
@dcheynerl Год назад
How often do you need to add air to the masterlube kit?
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe 2 года назад
I would keep the two switches separate These newer vehicles are super sensitive
@robb3490
@robb3490 2 года назад
Does this modification void the Ford factory warranty?
@vica153
@vica153 6 месяцев назад
Is the valve not rated for 100% duty cycle? Seems like they would design the kit to have the valve just stay open with the key on/ close with key off and avoid the manual switch.
@andrewawad1405
@andrewawad1405 2 года назад
Sorry couple stupid questions, hopefully you can help. Does this pre Oiler need to be recharged with air from time to time? Or does it start taking the pressure it used from the engine once it’s running? Also where can I buy the adapter on the oil filter that allows you to run a line towards it? Thanks
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer 2 года назад
Sorry, I don't comment on YT much. Just saw this. Yes I have noticed when the temps change outside a lot like it has recently going into spring here in Texas I've had to recharge it once. I noticed that when I had pre-lubricated before starting a couple of times it did not completely eliminate the rattle but only significantly reduced it so that led me to realize I need to check the pressure and it was low. I added a little air pressure to get it back up my set point and it works great again.
@cheizaguirre5494
@cheizaguirre5494 Год назад
I’m in Houston too. Nice to know ya here as well. Any update on this ? Or should i just go for the new phaser and chain? Thanks
@raymondsmoot4311
@raymondsmoot4311 Год назад
Do you have links for all the parts you have used?
@cfunni
@cfunni 2 года назад
Great video, how is the issue now that it has been a few months and we are in summer. I am in Houston and plan to do this as well. Would you share what model kit you purchased? Thanks for the video. Craig in Houston
@studritaf207
@studritaf207 2 года назад
Have you tried this yet?
@scotthill1278
@scotthill1278 2 года назад
Great video, good imfo. Maybe try a wix xp oil filter, anti drain back valve is better, and why 0/30 and not 5/30?
@crashland5711
@crashland5711 2 года назад
Wonder if the problem is still there with a motorcraft filter.
@spec1923
@spec1923 2 года назад
@@crashland5711 yes but instead of rattling everyday, it will only rattle after 3 days of no use.
@krzysiekolejnik9811
@krzysiekolejnik9811 2 месяца назад
Interesting solution. Where can I order such a set?
@a-bar-b5196
@a-bar-b5196 2 месяца назад
Yeah I’d like to know also?
@spartan6724
@spartan6724 2 года назад
Great video, thanks!
@billconiglio7997
@billconiglio7997 2 года назад
Can you provide a parts list ?
@richardcooper3200
@richardcooper3200 2 года назад
Yes Please Part Number for kit
@nicholasdodds9567
@nicholasdodds9567 Год назад
@flatlinelancer any updates? How many more miles?
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer Год назад
I'm at 150,000 mi now and it still works. It's a bit quirky in that I need to add air every few weeks and change in outdoor temps accelerate that. Also, if the air gets too low then the accumulator fills with oil and can cause a low oil situation. I wouldn't consider this a fix for the masses. Only mecha ically inclined car guys who want to save a lot of money. Now that they finally have a fix for the phasers that's probably the way to go.
@jamieb9556
@jamieb9556 Год назад
It make any difference sense you not using a motorcraft filter?
@ernestochavez2829
@ernestochavez2829 2 года назад
Thx for sharing great video
@d.j.9961
@d.j.9961 2 года назад
Why not simply probe the fuse box until you find a fused, switched power & attach to it? Of course, I do not know the power draw.
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer 2 года назад
It needs to be timed because if you just close the circuit then the valve stays open indefinitely so it would need to be a timed circuit the energized and automatically shut off. I found some devices on Amazon that could probably do this but I wanted to make this foolproof for my wife which would mean that it would need to pre-lube prior to remote starting. I've still not done anything about that and still have the switch.
@Tmask32
@Tmask32 Год назад
Did your 3.5 knock a little as well?
@lyleswavel320
@lyleswavel320 2 года назад
Is the 5.0 engine any good?
@d.j.9961
@d.j.9961 2 года назад
Should come factory on every vehicle!
@ajp1027
@ajp1027 2 года назад
Have u done anything for a switch? My wife drives our expedition all the time and to get her to flip a switch before starting the vehicle is going to throw her for a loop and if i can make if fool proof thats deff what i need to do.
@painterken2542
@painterken2542 5 месяцев назад
Mine was doing the same thing, it was always messing up so I got a new one...her name is Amanda and she never forgets to flip the switch
@Jason-pd6jv
@Jason-pd6jv 2 года назад
Do you have a direct link to this one?
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer 2 года назад
Call masterlube at 18007651243, they were very helpful. www.masterlube.net
@studritaf207
@studritaf207 2 года назад
Where your store located?
@catfish500mark9
@catfish500mark9 2 года назад
Does adding this extra oil affect the oil level on the dipstick?
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 Год назад
If you set the tank pressure correctly, it will be re-filled when the engine takes over, so no... you're not adding 2 quarts always, just for a moment, yes.
@scottpittmam1224
@scottpittmam1224 2 года назад
Last Ford I'll ever own because of this. Why not but a vehicle that last and not a POS Ford.
@bullbutter9699
@bullbutter9699 Год назад
Mine rattles at 950 to 1100 rpm since 40k 200k now
@alissasternagle1954
@alissasternagle1954 2 года назад
Dude get an AEM dry flow filter, and lose the k&n oily garbage.
@gustavovillalobos9657
@gustavovillalobos9657 Год назад
Part number?
@vblic
@vblic Год назад
Problem is that it's a 3.5. Ecobusted. In my opinion.
@scottlambert3612
@scottlambert3612 Год назад
For 5 more dollars you could buy a good oil filter
@Baneslayer
@Baneslayer 11 месяцев назад
I'm always amazed at how much money people spend on vehicles that don't work propely then spend even more on aftermarket parts... How about just buying a quality vehicle to start with?
@alissasternagle1954
@alissasternagle1954 2 года назад
Wild man 113- sorry but fords fixes do not work.
@jeremypilot1015
@jeremypilot1015 10 месяцев назад
Ford should be forced to cover every single one of these until the end of time. It was obvioulsy a defective design from the get go. If Toyota and Honda can make them last 300K then there is no excuse for Ford and everyone else. Hyundai!
@wildman1137
@wildman1137 2 года назад
Senior Master here with engineering contacts. You're providing a lot of incorrect information in this video; your "fix" is simply covering up the issue. The engine does not need to be per-lubricated prior to start; no different than any other engine ever made. The issue is that the phaser duty cycle in the PCM calibration was causing premature phaser locking pin wear. On cold start, the phasers should be at base timing with the locking pin engaged. Oil pressure regulated by the VCT solenoid unseats the locking pin and allows the phaser to adjust timing. If the locking pin is worn, the phaser will rattle until oil pressure fills the phaser cavities. Ford released a recall (21B10) that updates the calibration to prevent the premature wear issue. They also released a new phaser part number in the TSB with a redesigned locking mechanism to eliminate the failure mode. Please stop promulgating misinformation.
@nodakgarage7312
@nodakgarage7312 2 года назад
Will the new phasers still fix an issue if the truck had to have 21n08 reverted back because of shudder
@FlatlineLancer
@FlatlineLancer 2 года назад
Thanks for your input wild Man and prayerfully any other simpler fix will work for you or others. None others worked for me and from my research Ford has not made a significant design change that fixes it mechanically or programmatically. If this is useful to you or any others please feel free to use it and if not cast it away. The internet is great for having all kinds of information and it takes a brain to understand what parts of it are useful to you. Be a blessing.
@millionairemindset1136
@millionairemindset1136 2 года назад
@@FlatlineLancer interesting… I’m wondering why I see so many used 2018 Navigators hit the car market. Hmm…. I guess I will stay away from Them.
@larryreno8293
@larryreno8293 2 года назад
Wildman113 is correct, a pre oiler is only covering up a worn phaser. Replace or have them replaced with the updated parts. The new phaser part number starts with a M. If I was feeling more motivated I would pull up the tsb and post the full PN but…Saturday.
@agennello1
@agennello1 2 года назад
Yeah all this was done less than a year ago on my truck and now it rattles again. Preoiling looks good to me because Ford can't get it's Sh!t together.
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