Cut the bottom of the frame off and clean and seal the inside. Also, put some paint or rust converter on the frame that is covered. Also wouldn't hurt to take the bed off. You could really get to all the rot. Might take a weekend and a bunch of product but you wouldn't have to mess with it for a long time.
Frames and unit bodies collect sand and dirt that stays wet . If you take the time each spring or two to clean out that dirt and oil the frame you won't have this issue. Doesn't matter what make , all can have this happen with the right conditions over time.
I appreciate the video, I truly do, and perhaps is because I may be a bit OCD, but it would drive me nuts knowing I left that mess underneath! A chisel hammer or even just a hammer because is a small area to at least take the nasty rust flakes off, and at least, if I not able to remove or cut off the absolute rusted parts, use a $20 Rust Converter, like Corroseal or Rust Kutter, is milky and liquid and in 24 hours that rust is chemically turned from iron oxide to a stable inert black metal, like when you blue a gun barrel, and it would not continue to creep up the interior frame. THEN, push in the frame sleeve, which a $5 Rustoleum black spray from Walmart and some weep holes before installing would further protect it.
I knew someone would do something to save those F150's. The frame design is very poor to trap in the crud that they put on the roads. Thanks for the video. I'm sure I will be doing some of that before too long.
I ordered this exact same part direct from Summit Racing for the same price on 10 Dec, 2021 and was told I should get it in a day or two. (Your links no longer work) I am happy I found your video, thank You!
Just one reservation...Dorman. The last few years I have been burnt by their junk a few times. This looks like a decent option and aside from the metal it’s made from there’s not a lot of ways to screw it up but I’m reluctant to do business with them. They have cost me money and I don’t want them to have any more of mine.
Can you explain what you have had happen? My experience with Dorman is they usually take care of you if you have an issue. I’m not doubting you just trying to get feedback.
@@InTheShop - the last couple were a plastic pick-up foot for a diesel truck that softened and fell off the tube inside the tank, of course that was a couple hours on the re-do. Before that, a oil cooler for a 6L Ford. The gasket (seal) failed after a couple of months, crumbled to pieces which got in the oil. That cooler is under the intake manifold on that one so the top of the engine came back apart down to the heads. Many hours of work. Before that misc electrical parts of poor quality but often related to the plastic on the part like the connectors.
@@rustyaxelrod I had transmission cooling lines that rusted through in one year from new to rusted. Dorman. However next one that I bought are aluminum, Dorman to. But yes, not 100% reliable.
This really should be a warranty replacement, but we all know that never happens. Just found out yesterday I have the same rot on my 2005 STX. Entire truck in great shape except for the frame. Simple starter replacement uncovered this mess. Happy there's a fix!! Now to find a fab guy in New Jersey or East PA. Thanks for the video.
@@cyclepowered8799 I dunno what part of pa you’re in but a little shop called Elam folks auto body in berks county pa. It’s run by a man named Brandon and he did an amazing job restoring the frame on my f150. Both of the inner rails were rotted out a good 3-4 feet down the whole rail and he welded new sheet metal on for me but I’m sure he’d install these kits. He charged me about 2 grand for the work which included removing the muffler and gas tank. Very happy with it so far
My 07 F150 has some rust issues. Bubbles in the paint around the fender and some rust on the frame but its just surface rust. I wouldn't mind getting the frame sand blasted and powder coated but the truck has been good to me the 5000 miles I've had it for. Truck is reaching 142k miles now and I want to keep her in good shape for a long time.
I power wash the frame inside and out let it dry then get a pump up sprayer mix chain bar and some kerosene or even use diesel to thin and spray in side and out cleaned frame and Cross members rockers fenders doors floor pan box quarters . Ps I don’t park in any ones drive way for a while because it drips
@@InTheShop That'll probably hold it for 2 years tops then it'll wash off.... I was leaning more towards the existing rust and the bare metal that will continue to rust and almost negate the repair not unless it's just a short time fix. Nice video anyways.
Fluid film or wool wax is a yearly application around here. I didn’t put anything on the frame first because I value my health more than the minimal amount a weld through primer would help slow the rust. Welding through any of that stuff is terrible for you to breath. I do my best to clean it up then once it’s done I coat it and try to stop the rust from continuing. Fluid film seems to do a pretty good job at stopping the rust from continuing.
Power wash frame and crossmembers let dry Oil Undercoat any oil cooking used new oil any thing thin you oil mix and spray in but do it annually . Make sure to do inside and out it works been doing it to my 1976 rest rod vette for 40 years my 2006 gxp my 2006 cts and my 1992 chev tracker 4x4
@@InTheShop I use weld through primer. I'm new to mig welding. When working near a gas tank you have to be careful. Sometimes the primer burns with a small flame. But you did remove the gas tank. New subscriber. Enjoyed the video thanks.
Honestly that frame didnt look that bad i would have just cut out the bad areas cleaned inside the frame best i could and try coat inside with used trans fluid .weld in new patches. That sock will just cause more rust anyway.
Hello, I am impressed on the your work in repairing the frame on that f150. I have the same issue with my 05 f150. I have 81000 miles on my truck and I've kept it well maintained. The body and interior are awesome, I live in the North in Roslindale, Ma., and I just didn't realize that the frame would rust like that and when I saw your video and went to check my truck frame it was in the same condition. I saw the condition of the frame of the f150 you worked on and the frame on my truck I would say that it was pretty much the same condition and it's the bottom lower part of the frame, pretty similar condition. I love my truck and I've had no issues other than normal where and tear. If I could save it that would be really awesome. I just wanted to know what the fee was you charged on the repair and was the parts you used included in the repair charge. also what type of garages or auto repair shops do you think would do that kind of work. Thank you , any info would be greatly appreciated.
Always wondered what goes on inside that poorly ventilated box. I spray fluid film in mine. Probably lots of dirt in there too. The Chevy G channel frames rot too. The 99 to 07!generation.
2004 Ford F150 xlt Rusted Frame. I have a similar issue, I replaced my 5.4 engine with a reman to remove the engineering issues, but now its rusted, what would it cost to have your shop weld these on both sides?
I weld my old gmc.. check out neutral drops f150 video.. busted chassis. frame broken after the hangers (never seen anything like it) took a full throttle romp back and forth, even after broken. that is a nice kit by dorman.. I end up custom on my gmc.
I just bought an 06 f150. It's a great truck and only issue was frame rot. I'm so glad I found this video. Now I have the confidence to fix it myself. Thanks
If you pause at 5:00 mins where you are pretty much pointing, that part of the frame has front bed mount and front leaf spring bracket is there a kit for that area basically like from a foot of the back part of the kit you have and to go back further on the frame to where it gets skinner the whole area I said you are pointing at 5:00 into video
I've been thinking about buying the fluid film or woolwax kit that comes with the gun and 5 gallon bucket of under coating. I was wondering if you have any experience with that system, and if you would make and instructional video?
I have some wool wax stuff on my tundra. I have to redo it annually, buts it’s mostly touch up. So far so good. I’m in Maryland not Buffalo but I’d recommend it.
I dont have a ton of experience with it because I typically outsource that kind of stuff to avoid the mess but I will look into making a video about it for sure.
I go get my vehicles professionaly done at a fluid film dealer. And they spray in and out of the frame as well as body molding. So it doesnt rot, then i just touch up with the cans from time to time.
Factory galvanized frames should be a DOT must. Manufactures that build dangerous crap should be legislated to build frames that remain rust free. Allowing industry to self-regulate is akin to trusting a 5 year old child with matches. No good can come of it.
I just bought a 2004 F150 XLT. It was completely covered in thick mud and the gas tank held up by a ratchet strap, I knew immediately... this kit seems easy, but I think I want to cut out and weld in some thick metal... it's a 10ga frame?
Haha reminds me of Gil on the Simpsons... These Fords will rust up on you like *that*...[shut up Gil, close the deal, close the deal!] Great video! I'll probably use this on my 06 250 at some point, hopefully my undercoat keeps lasting haha
When I was young every car the rocker panels rotted off. Everyone bitched. The manufactures fixed the problem no rocker panels rusted from then on for years. Now every car and truck rust out everywhere. We need to start a campaign that forces the manufactures to fix or buy them back. 50,000.00 and up to purchase a pickup and 10 years later you have this?unacceptable.
I notice the Ford Advertisement in the middle of your video. If they new where their ad was being place maybe they could have thrown in a little apology for the bad quality control at the Ford plant. They might even throw in an offer to repair the trucks that they sold you for $20.000 plus.
Actually the spraying of automatic transmission fluid with a hand pump can works really well at slowing down the rust buildup on these northern trucks…fluid doesn’t hurt the rubber seals….it’s cheap…easy /messy to do…do it each summer…getting it ready for winter…fluid coats the rust and slows it down tremendously …you can spray it on chassis in winter to..fluid will flow down chassis coating it as it flows down the channel…you got nothing to use…
I am currently working on a 2007 f 150. Welding these panels on is not necessary. I am using long UBolts. Heating that old metal during the welding process takes the temper out of the frame and makes it brittle. My box is off and my gas tank removed. A wire wheel is used to take the rust flakes off. Sprayed with Rust cutter and let dry. Painted with Ruatolium implement paint and then everything get a coating of fluid 🎬 📽
New to your page, and came across this video while doing some research on my frame. Do you do work for others? Where in MA are you located, I’m in RI. I’ve been told by 3 mechanics to scrap my truck due to frame.
True. The boxed frames do indeed greatly increase the strength...but they also increase the amount of maintenance. I live in the rust belt and just traded in my 2004 F-150 that I owned for over 16 years and the frame and body were rust-free. I had it Zeibarted in 2004, refreshed in 2006, and then decided to do it myself after that by spraying Eastwood's internal frame coating and/or FluidFilm inside the frame, rear fender wells, rocker panels, and doors every other year since then. It takes some work but if you buy a vehicle and keep it forever like I do, I consider it well worth it. I've seen many vehicles from various manufactures that are wonderfully kept mechanically end up in the scrap yard because of frame issues...and that's sad. I'm just glad Dorman stepped up and made a kit for this...definitely a good way of getting at least 5 more years out of an otherwise excellent truck!
You being a welder can you please give me a rough idea what would you normally charge someone to Get it install and weld that in their truck plus I'm assuming I would have to hire a mechanic too to remove the gas tank and muffler
I have this issue with my 04 f150 frame is rotted from front to back causing the bed of truck to tilt up will this frame kit help me with my issue ? Please help
Hello sir, I actually needed this same work done on my 08 F150 and loved this work done in the video. If I can somehow contact you, would you take the job?
Ur In Massachusetts I'm in Clifton NJ I have to do this to my 05 F150. I'm a self taught welder, but this requires a professional weld. Do you have a contact up this way? My truck looks great except for this problem. Thx and i appreciate the any info.
What does a job like this cost to have done. I have an 05 f150 that runs great, but the frame is very rotted. I had to jack up the truck today and the frame distorted a bit under the weight.
@@InTheShop That's not bad at all, beats spending 20k for a decent used one. My 05 f150 is almost mint with the exception of the frame and a couple of spots on the body. I rebuilt the top end, new phases, new timing, new roller followers, engine runs perfect. Just the damn rot in the frame. Even the under carriage is not that bad, rusting here and there but no rot.
Also, know of many Chevrolets and Toyotas tundras that have the same problem. It’s because they put too many holes in the frame Warsaw can get into it if they would seal the frame up solid it wouldn’t do this, so don’t think this is just a Ford problem.
You can order them at any autozone, advanced auto, or any other parts store that sells dorman. The part numbers are listed in the description of the video.
Engineering question for anyone. If the mid section of the frame is rusted through, there is no structural integrity left. So why bother welding the entire length of the new part? Seems if there are good welds on the front and back of the frame brace, that's where the strength will be, so welding to the center section adds no value. Am I wrong? ust trying to save time and effort.
Where I live in Eastern Canada that truck is a write off. Any repair to the chassis its not going to pass inspection. If you own it I guess but would not be a passable truck for inspection.
I have a 2005 Suburban. There's about a three-foot section of frame that has a rust hole and a rust crack going across the side. I've been looking all over the Internet for months does anybody know where I can get a patch panel for my truck? Any and I mean "any" advice would be extremely helpful.. I have a flux core welder but I'm not sure if it's okay to use that on the frame, I'm new to all this. It's my wife's truck and she is disabled. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance to everybody.👍💯
I would say if you are confident in your welding ability and the portion that you are welding to is still solid I would have 100% confidence in it. The metal is as thick as factory. If you are iffy on your welds and the metal is soft I wouldn’t do this repair at all.
I don’t like to coat before because the hydrocarbons can contaminate the weld and cause porosity. I regularly coat the inside and outside of the frame with fluid film.
@@InTheShop i don't think it would get into the weld as the metal would heat i would think it would run down.,but i get whaat you mean fluid film after would work just as good
If i did this to my 05 ford I'm not certain how much chassis i would have left lol. It's really not funny and I'm pissed that i have to-do this. When my 89 F150 had a solid frame for it's age.
This looks like one of those things you do when you first buy the truck. Then when this shield rusts out, remove it, weld another shield. I wonder what it cost.
Would you know anybody who could help me with my rusted frame,,im a senior..my truck is a 2005 Ford Ranger,,only 50000 miles..i would hate to get rid of the truck..its really chery other than the frame. Im in topsfield Ma. Any help would be apreciated. Thanks
Oil oil oil twice a year oil on your frame on all your steel parts you don’t get no rust spray it with oil get yourself some cans of Bolt fogger in oil oil oil that’s what I do no rust so my trucks and I live in the rust belt
@@InTheShop Man! I have 50+ year old vehicles in Southern California that still have the original undercarriage parts. Rust is nearly nonexistent anywhere here. No salt on the roads😬. You guys have it bad.
@@69A12SuperBee it’s terrible here. It’s not only salt it’s calcium chloride. The stuff is nasty. After only being on the road 1-2 years cars and trucks around here already start showing signs of rust and rot.
@@69A12SuperBee I just moved to SoCal from Tennessee and man I’m saving a shit ton of money replacing all the bad parts on my truck with these Cali trucks they’re like brand new for half the price
