I'f you want cutting edge and you will upgrade in 3 to 5 years - get the Ranger, if you want to keep it for 10 years and clock up 300,000kms most would agree that the dmax is probably a safer bet
I totally agree. drove a T6 for 3 years and a T7 for two years, not the most reliable. though people I know still have theirs and seem happy. Never being in an Isuzu but I'll pick a Toyota any day
Yet but the Ranger is older than the Isuzu, no one is going to drive Isuzu for 300k with with garbage interior, seats and ride just like Toyota both have more recalls and issues
I’ve got a dmax that’s done 163k and no sign of problems, I’m happy to purchase another ! I’m surprised by the engine sizes available in oz, I’d go for Isuzu definitely and it wouldn’t surprise me that this comparison came with a paid promotion ! Just look at the end clip, ranger facing forward n dmax facing away, suspect, Isuzu all day long
In the Philippines the truck will be owned and driven mostly by people who will never use it to haul except maybe grocery, who will never use it off-road, and who are too afraid of potholes and speed bumps.
@@farmingsimulator8166 if you have it yes. can get it back in resale. I've driven both and they are both evolutions of the prev versions with the same charactersitics. Isuzu laggy off the line, jittery back end unladen, and cheaper feeling interior although it looks nice in videos. The ford is planted, better driveability you notice straight away, and the interior is like a SUV (the missus approves). You could swap the family wagon for a ranger but you would need a solid reason to need to have a ute over a wagon to get the dmax
Yeah if you like driving around in a 1980s school bus. Ranger is a 2022 the Isuzu is more similar to a 2003 navara for drivability and noise and comfort.
Is there any reason you made a point of the rear underseat storage of the Ranger however never mentioned or showed the same rear under seat storage bins (lidded) in the D-Max?
It’s such a pity that the engineers at Isuzu developed the new D-Max to only catch up to the competition while the new Ranger has created a new bench mark…
Not at all. Fords v6 ranger is costly to maintain in the long run. Practicality wise, reliability and longevity dmax takes the lead still. Compare the v6 ranger vs dmax after 6 to 8years of ownership and you'll see the huge difference.
The only real trump card for ranger is gcm , and V6, if the Dmax could match the gcm in the 2.0 I would take the Dmax 4 cylinder vs 4 cylinder, The roof structure in Dmax is still superior in a roll over with the addition of boron alloy sections, ranger doesn’t as far as I can find.
The D Max has alway been fairly low in the food chain. Cheap build quality and lethargic performance compared to others. They say reliable. No more reliable than Ford, Toyota, LDV, Volkswagen etc.
@@paulllacey1344 4 cylinder engine wise it’s the only engine that is industrial by design to last, not saying the attached components will be the same these days. Same running gear as toyota.
My dream truck. Awesome Ford Ranger V6. New subscriber here from Philippines. We have our old 2007 model Ford Everest still kicking. Hope I am one of the lucky winner. I will park this awesome Pickup Truck beside the Everest of my sister. Wish me luck. I will test drive this in Bukidnon Mountain place in our Country. Love so much Ford Cars.
Okay firstly, don’t even bother doing a comparison between the Hilux and Ranger, there’s nothing to compare, the Toyota is absolute rubbish. And now secondly, I don’t even need to watch the video to know that the Ranger is light years ahead of EVERY other dual cab in the segment.
Not sure the value is there for me, an updated Hilux (wider track and rear disk brakes) is $63k drive away in NZ, compared to $75k+ for the DMax and Ranger. Big difference.
Really like the DMax but if I was going to spend the kids inheritance I’d stump up for the Ranger. Perhaps I’d go 4 cyl ( so I could get it sooner ) then pick up a v6 in 12-18 months. Great informative review Scott.
Depends on how long you plan to keep it, mate. The 4J is far more reliable as opposed to the bi-turbo. EGR coolers go crazy soon and turbo's often require replacement due to the higher pressures they push. Depends on the ks you plan on doing before replacement.
Disclosure questions. 1. Was this a paid comparison by Ford? It seems in every new Ute release, regardless of brand it always wins. Will wait to see the new Hilux review to confirm this
It should win, as it's newer and most buyers of these vehicles are into the market for comfort. I'm impressed that Ford actually went with this motor, most manufacturers are going smaller capacity motors nowadays.
The ranger will be the king of dual cab utes for quite a while, theres just no point comparing others against it. Unless toyota goes all out on the next gen hilux, the Ranger will win all comparisons were gonna watch for now.
When has toyota ever gone all out, they have enough blind followers that are happy to drive a sub safety under powered under capacity in gcm and towing to bother.
That's why I bought one. I know in 25 years time I'll get most of my money back from some Toyota fan boy. Plus lots of cheap aftermarket parts and plentiful. Toyota tax is real.
@@veneratedmortal4369 if you think that toyota are building the same long lasting quality that was you are kidding. They had the very best air intake systems big filters all metal up till 2015 I think now it’s the same poorly done plastic rubbish, you can go through every part in the same way, fuel filters/systems electrical components, all generic Chinese rubbish.
@@paulmcintosh5589 I said nothing about that. I'm disappointed in a lot of build quality reductions in new Toyota's. But that's irrelevant, they still have a reputation and an old land cruiser still sells for more than its new cost at the moment. And as a general rule they won't have a lemon, like the 2 liter ford ranger. Know so many people that fried that engine.
hey Hot Rod. lmao, another ford fan spotted. I think you have never heard transmission failure on those ford rangers, they said people quickly dump ford rangers after 5 years on america because of its shitty engineering lmao
It depends on how you maintain you idiot. If you don't buy don't say anything. Any car has its owb weakness. Its the owner responsibilty to take care and proper maintenance
Reports of drive line shuddering in the ranger.. the crank in the v6 doesn't like that and will snap, this is evident in the landrover with the same engine and they made the transmission silk and they are still snapping... 20k servicing is also not ideal. I'll just get the hilux for work happy to wait 12 months.
I also think that the D-max looks way better than the Ranger. Although I'd take the Ranger. But in reality the D-max looks way better than a Ranger from most angles.
I’ve ordered the V6 Sports model. With the touring pack & AT tyres it’s $71K drive away. Not cheap. The Ram 1500 is $120K+ & has less torque. I tow a 2.5T Millard caravan the more torque the more comfortable it is to drive. 👍
The RRP on the ram express is $82,850 what are you on about? It's twice the car this ranger is UNLESS you consider luxury technology's you don't need the most important thing when buying a ute.
@@SkiRacingOz No different to a patrol or landcruiser, that's not the cars fault that's our stupid laws. The ranger is a tin can shotbox toy ute that is bought by people who don't actually ever use them as to do any work. Thank God they've done away with that 3.2 though that was the worst sounding engine ever created, we had a wild track at work and between that noise and the electric steering it feels like you're driving this little go-kart on the road and oh man was it bad to tow with.
@@SkiRacingOz Payload will be the same mate as I said they have to work within our stupid legal system to suit what kind of vehicle it's classed as. I wish that were the case and I would have preferred the Ford if it was coming with a v8 but the hemi ram with 6 speed auto will be more reliable and cheaper to fix.
@@grantwells6189 dmax notably designed under power for durability purpose, in Malaysia i have heard ranger with plenty of gearbox problems, I would choose dmax for a long term goal
Is it true with prolonged exposure to water crossings and corrugations the electric steering rack fails and a new genuine ford ranger electronic steering rack costs 8 to 10 grand if you can find one ?
Silly really comparing prices because the new Ranger has so many things the Dmax or the Hilux hasn't. V6 Engine, 10-12" Screen, 10 Speed Auto, Full Time 4WD, wireless charging, the list goes on and on. Better Safety features too. NVH Levels in the Ranger will be far superior to the 4 cylinder utes too. The only area where the Hilux and Dmax will win in my opinion is reliability. Re-Sale value for all these utes will be great. But the best driving ute on the road ATM is the VW Amarok until someone does a driving only comparison.
Dean I would even question the statement around reliability. Brand perception and marketing for both Toyota and Isuzu have been drilling “reliability” into us for years. Both have had their fare share of recalls, reliability issues and more recently a class action lawsuit. With global Shortages at play and manufacturers Sharing suppliers and components im not sure we can accept the marketing bs of “reliability” for both Toyota and Isuzu regarding their dual cab models in the future. Sure, the land cruiser utes of old have an excellent reputation for reliability, and so they should, they continue to sell a product developed decades ago at exorbitant prices on the back of “reliability”. By no means am I saying the rangers are exempt, they are far from perfect and have had a range of issues during its life cycle, but with every year these “new” products are drawing level on the “reliability” front imo.
@@sebastianfinocchiaro870 I’m with you. All vehicle makers have their issues from time to time. From Kia to Mercedes. As long as the makers follow up support is genuine 🤞
Not a fair comparison of utes the Ford is v6 and cost $90000 on road the isuzu is 3 liter turbo $72000 on road why don't you compair the ute to the Ford 2l Bi turbo then we see who the clear winners is
Also ford duel cab don't do trays only as a aftermarket accessories then only a 1200 tray isuzu for a duel cab they fit 1800 long tray as a standard option
OK I'm in the UK, but I would just like to say I have recently changed from a Ford Ranger dual cab 2.2L auto Limited to a new Isuzu D-Max DL40 double cab and even with 150k miles on the clock I would still prefer the old Ford Ranger, it seems like the Isuzu is built to a price point and therefore all the gizmo's are cheap and lack sophistication, the touch control info screen is completely non intuitive to use, and don't get me started on those stupid and dangerous assisted driving controls - they should be banned!
Done o my x rider 2016 250000 and not a problem and on ford problems with turbo every year but it still going 350000 . Do you like Lamborghini or Ferrari !
Yeah most so called road tests are pretty shallow exercises, copping a freebie for a few days with the supplying dealer at the ready to sort a problem is a far cry from putting the ute to work and living with it day to day out of your own pocket expecting to get five or so trouble free years out of it. Give me the simpler truck.
My only question for you Aussie bush masters, then why did the Amarok decide to use the new Ford Rangers platform? Like that had my head spinning for months since I heard that?
Be good to know both drive away prices. $10k is substantial, get some nice all terrains, bar work winch and uhf... Wildtrak V6 about $78k drive away in Vic 😭
Thanks viewers this presentation is paid for and bought to you by FORD lol.....the one thing you didnt touch on is reliability, my son bought a 2023 ranger and its been back to the dealership with mechanical / electrical problems 4 times in 3 months. Bet youve never seen that with a D-Max.
No mention that when you were sat in the back there was no under thigh support to speak of, (because the seat was so low to the floor) and your knees could have propped up your moobs if you were a bit chunkier. :) or are all utes like that? Nice comprehensive review.
Scott I read your article on car sales also, can you explain to me the pricing as you wrote "As tested, there is the not-insignificant matter of the $13,000 price difference and at $64,990 drive-away the X-Terrain is good value, putting it more in line with a 2.0-litre Ranger XLT", and at the end of the article there is the pricing again "How much does the 2022 Isuzu D-MAX X-Terrain cost? Price: $67,500 (plus on-road costs)". This would then put the D-max X-Terrain at around the $73000 drive away. A quick search for a new x-terrain came back at $76,888.
Hi David, as explained in the video, normally the D-Max is $67,500 plus on-roads so as you say, about $73K DA. However, Isuzu currently has an offer for $64,990 DA so at the moment that’s the price, but we have to list the regular price too as there’s no guarantee how long that special price will last. Does that make sense?
@@addictedtosliding Hi Scott thanks for the reply . I can not find the low price you were able to find, and in todays current shortage environment it must have been a very short offering. This then raises another question as to the pressure Isuzu are feeling, where at present cars are pulling huge dollars why then would there be a big price cut on a special when most cars are seeing huge wait times. Demand is the most influential price controller definitely not the good hearted car maker. So was that pricing a ploy by Isuzu to limit the gap between the 20+ year old D-max and how far behind it is compared with the New Ford Ranger ?
@@McNuggs- my experience with ford and I own commercial vans and rangers. Pretty of experience with them no issues. Driven and flogged by many employees
For years the Ranger on paper has won the points but in real world long term ownership the D Max is miles ahead, Ford has a long way to go on the reliability front and warranty claims, i dont trust Ford and considering its already having issues, I'll pass ! again ! And opt for another D-max
@@chuchaman4554 auto failures when towing and engine failures at 70k is fairly common, its too much of a gamble with ford, I'd like it not to be the case cause i like the product just not the way its bolted together.
@@hotrod7603 dude i don't know what u r talking about,isuzu does not fail in my country and to this day and age and still is the best,and we consider fords as waste of money and just another piece of junk from ford
That was like in the 90s with the trooper. The dmax diesels are bulletproof. Have fun with the rangers turbo blowing up. Or the transmission failing. Whichever happens first. 😂
Dmax was 63 at time of purchase(which we haven’t received yet) and was quoted tad shy of 78k for the wildtrak Substantial difference really. Both are great Utes and if you can stretch the budget the ranger would great.
Have a look at the XLT which is the entry level for the V6. Add the touring pack $900 & the drive away price is @ $71K. Still not cheap. I’ve ordered the V6 Sports which is $2.5K extra. If you have an ABN you can get $2.6K discount 👍
I've got an x-terrain on order for 63 drive away too. Seriously gave switching to the XLT V6 consideration, but if you add $3k on top of the $71k for a lockable lid or roller cover it's a full $10k more. Can't justify that much extra for a model 3 grades down from top of the range!
The 2023 wildtrak 2.0 bi-turbo is about 63k AUD drive away in Vietnam. It doesn't have a stock roller shutter, I'm not sure if they left anything else off
Now run the tape measure over the chassis dimensions from cabin rearward. The Isuzu looks like it is ready to snap in half. Very light weight and thin material. Longevity question mark?
I read that the dmax used a new stronger steel for the chassis (I think it's called X5 maybe) to save weight, I was actually looking at the chassis on mine behind the cab (it's a single cab so I'm seeing an area more towards the centre of the chassis mind you) and have been suprised at how large the section of the chassis is there compared to other utes on the road
$70k for a Truck that is not Full Sized...... Money is not what it used to be...... Could not imagine owning a Newer Vehicle and living on Gravel........ Guessing they develop rattles, noises, etc.. not to mention the chance of holes being knocked in the Trans and Differentials, due to thinner alloys.... ? Have Driven New Trucks, that rattle on Roadways... A Ford on Gravel would be bad, with those Aluminum Bodies, the Rear is likely all over the Road?
