As someone that relies on GPUs for work-related tasks as much as I do gaming, I absolutely appreciate your focus on something besides gaming performance. Thank you!
Yours was the video I've been waiting for. My favorite line "if you're a gamer you're probably going to be disappointed because there are zero gaming benchmarks" You're my go to channel especially concerning gpu related stuff
@@daviddesrosiers1946Ok but that's physically how the bus width correlates with the capacity. Each vram chip is 32 bits wide and 2GB of capacity. To get to 16GB you need 8 chips, 8x32 = 256 bit bus. The 4090 has 24GB of vram with its wider 384bit bus for this exact reason, there is no 16GB 384 bit memory bus. The only way you're choking bandwidth with higher vram capacity is the 4060ti 16GB route where they clamshell 8 chips together which forces 2 chips to run through each 32bits of memory bus leaving only 16 bits per chip but that's going lower not higher which is just like running 4 ram sticks in dual channel, ur just forcing 4 sticks through 2 channels.
@@nimrodpaul6875 for future proof only, no increase in performance. If u consider 4060 then buy only 16gigs version. But still try to avoid that card imo
@@YaBoyAshyy totally.. they act like this is the dark ages for gaming. For people who make money from their GPU $800 is a steal. One job will pay for it, I’ll write it off and it’ll continue to make me money for another year or two. That’s a Renaissance.
Loved the video BUT you forgot to add towards the end that Zotac gives 3 years of warranty that can be extended to 2 more years by registering your Zotac GPU on their website. So with the Zotac card you get a total of 5 YEARS WARRANTY! Also, Zotac RMA experience for their GPUs is one of the best in the industry as they issue you a replacement GPU very fast once you have sent them copies of your Invoice and extended warranty confirmation email. Only EVGA, Rest In Peace, had better RMA experience than Zotac.
One thing, its AD103 chip, but sadly they kept the capacity of 48mb of L3 cache and did not increase it to 64mb like on RTX 4080, I guess it would be too close to vanilla 4080 if they did that. Otherwise great review.
@@baoquoc3710 Yes, I know, but I see that people on the Internet are a little disappointed with the RTX 4070ti Super because they thought that for $800 they would get close to vanilla RTX 4080 performance and it would be almost the same, but in the end it didn't turn out that way. What I want to say is that the RTX 4070 ti Super is not meant to replace the RTX 4080, but I guess people expected that and that's why they're a little disappointed.
@@TheUltraMineboxMore cache is always better. The more often you're getting "cache hits" meaning the cores are pulling data from the cache rather than the memory the larger proportion of the time they're effectively running at a much higher ipc and this is mostly due to the access latency of the cache rather than the higher bandwidth. Even if it doesnt need more memory bandwidth, the gpu waiting on the 300ns of GDDR access time while it does about 3 clock cycles in a single nanosecond is a lot of wasted clock cycles everytime it has to wait on pulling data from the video memory. Hence more cache reduces how often this happens, in otherwords unlike vram bandwidth, when it comes to cache more is basically always better.
I bet it's the same scenario he explained at 22:20. Avoid 4080 and 4070ti because their performance predecessors (those are the 4070ti super and the 4070 super, respectively) have almost the same performance with a nice price cut.
@@Adri95704080 and 4070 ti super are not basically the same performance. Compute wise the 4070ti and 4070S basically are the same however the 4070S only gets one NVENC encoders while both of the 70ti's get 2.
@@matrobe4594 mines must be defective, I can hear specifically when the gpu fans come on and it’s a really different sound from the rest of my case fans, I’m ordering a new one in hopes mines is just faulty cause as it stands right now it’s way too loud for such a high end card.
I was abouta throw some shade cause in gaming this isn't all that much of an upgrade, especially for the price, but I'm glad to see the productivity tasks are looking good, awesome take on the content keep it up!
Likely because games rely more on the cache while content creation relies more on the memory bandwidth which is what got significantly better than the base 70ti while there was literally 0 extra cache.
One note on Lightroom Classic and GPUs. I don't know if the tests include the AI Denoise feature. It's one of the main reasons that I am pushing my PC upgrade through (learning blender is the other one). Currently still on a Strix 1080Ti. Batching raw files through the AI denoise (amazing feature for people who shoot high ISO a lot like me) it'll lock the GPU into 99% utilisation at a rate of about 1hr per 100 files. I often deliver 200-300 files per event. I try and batch things before I go to gym or bed, because can't do anything that uses the GPU during that time. Maybe it's a non issue on 3000 series GPUs, but mine is getting it's ass kicked hard.
@@Alex-wg1mbTry to undervolt it for better power efficiency as its clocks have been pushed so high that it really hurts power efficiency. More obvious is the fact that the 4070super is equal in every way except the cores to the 70ti which the ti has 7% more of yet it's tdp is 30% higher. Why? Because the 4070 super did not have its clocks pushed crazy high like the 4070 ti and as a result just a small undervolt can reduce power by like 20-30% with no performance loss.
I upgraded from the 3070 ti and the performance boost is great. The 4060 Ti S has become my personal fave GPU. I dont care what they say, I absolutely love it for both gaming and video editing. Also, the fact that It will probably be (and hopefully) the only gpu that has both Ti AND super in its name, it has that uniqueness into it that makes it just little bit more special.
Steve at HUB said it best. VRAM won't affect framerates much and the ONLY way to judge is to look at texture quality easily demonstrated in games like Halo Infinite at 4K max settings. A 12GB GPU will struggle and look bad even though the framerates for the Super and Non-Super would be the same. VRAM is not about more FPS but better quality textures!
Great video as always. I am tempted to buy the 4070 TI Super but am waiting to see your review on the 4080 Super. Is the $200 price difference worth it to get the 4080 Super? Which one has the best bang for its buck, price for performance?
25% higher price while giving same amount of V-Ram and less than 25% higher performances. I guess the answer Is easy when it comes to price/performances.
@@OceansUnknownwithToddKortte how’s it doing for your it’s overkill for 1440p for me but I don’t feel like getting a 4k monitor it’s very good for 4k too
@@Young_PresleyOfficial I rendered a video with my old GPU, an EVGA Geforce GTX1070 (a beast of a GPU for its time) vs the AERO Gigabyte 4080 Super. The 1070 rendered in 6min 45 sec. The 4080 did it in 3min.
Ah well, I were to build a system for Blender today 4070TI Super would probably be my choice. Can't forget the 4080 since it's been in my system for about 9 months now - it was an extravagant purchase but has performed flawlessly so far and I don't regret it one bit.
I just ordered the 4070 TU Super, bit pricey but at the end of the day its a premium card and it will not easily lose its value. I might return it depending on how the 4080 super looks like compared to price and performance buts that's one week more
@@shane527x The big mistery around 4080 Super is not its performance (which will be slightly above the 4080) but whether it will be widely available at/close to the 1K MSRP. Some voiced suspisions that it won't.
I got an MSI RTX 4070 Ti Super from MicroCenter's open-bos showcase today for $783, and installed it in my PC. I do not regret it. It maxxes out my 144 Hz monitor while playing Halo Infinite.
Assuming one can afford the $200 price increase, I'm guessing I should buy the 4070 TI Super vs. lower memory 4070 cards because of it's 16GB of VRAM. It will speed up some editing tasks and extend the life of the investment. Please confirm.
As a 3D artist, I must thank you for this great video. It definitely isn't worth paying $1200 for a 4080 considering the performance difference, but what do you think about the 4080 Super at $1000? Do you think it's worth it in that case?
Excellent. . . . Man I don't understand why AMD cant get the people in the Driver Development Department to do a better job! Great hardware but their software leaves a lot on the table.
I have a discount waiting to be used. Which card would you get, the 4070 Ti Super (approx. $703), 4080 Super (approx. $878), or 7900 XTX (approx. $835)? Prices are with taxes paid & using my discount.
i need help. so im wondering if i should pay 550 for intel i7 13700k or 400 for the i9 12900k. I will be using it for gaming COD as well as streaming it, and editing 4k footage. i also was wondering if the extra 200 dollars is worth for the 4070ti super instead of the 4070 super for my needs.
Seen a Video of yours where you communicated your dislike of the AMD Cards. Taken from the pure stats it doesn´t look bad though - so whats you cut on that? Did it change at all or are these just numbers? Cheers
Do you think 4070 ti super is much bang for the buck compared to the 4080 super? im choosing between these two variant, 4070ti super non oc is $193 usd cheaper than the 4080 Super Colorful Vulcan S. which is a china GPU and it is the top of the line of that variant. Can you also make reviews for other brands Like Colorful PNY etc. because those brands are waaay cheaper that the asus, msi, gigabyte
Would a minisforum AR900i, paired 64gb of ram, fast SDD storage and a RTX4080 Super be sufficient for 3D content creation, specifically octane render, unreal engine and twinmotion. Looking forward to a response.
This puts the mail in the coffin for me: I’m gonna wait to see the 4080S 🤣 Kind of shocking to see the AMD being preferred for video and photo editing since you couldn’t stand using the 7900XTX. What changed?
Good job. The price difference between 4070ti super and 4080 is not that big But the price difference also matters because money doesn't fall from the sky
@@anitaremenarova6662 I am very angry $800 x 1.79 is not equal to 2000 900$ for an ASUS TUF OC is not even a price but it will be above that This is crazy
Could you do a test to see whether more VRAM or a newer card is better for 3D rendering? Like is an RTX 3090 (24GB) better than RTX 4080 (16GB) or vice versa.
RTX 4080 will be faster in rendering than RTX 3090, RTX 3090 is probably fast as 4070-4070Ti in rendering If you are using a lot of 4k textures and scene won't fit in 16GB VRAM buffer then RTX 4090 would be probably best upgrade to you or of you are having RTX 3090 then wait for RTX 4090 or wait for 5090? I wanted get as well RTX 4090 but decided to wait for 5090 More VRAM will be better solution at least in most of rendering software as there are not many renderers which use Out of core memory(if you run out of memory it will use RAM), I think only Octane use that and Redshift probably, Cycles doesn't use Out of core memory
can you check with Nvidia why the prices in Greece are above 1000 euros and not msrp??? AMD is has much more compeling price to performance cards in that category
So I've got a 7900xtx red devil and I'm pretty new to content creating. This maybe a dumb question but is a 4070ti Super good enough for creators, should I get a 4080 Super instead or should I just stick to my 7900xtx? To clarify I'm not looking to be a streamer. More video creating like reviews etc. I'm not looking to spend 2k on a 4090 though.
There’s a review of the 7900XTX on this channel that you might want to check out😊 You might not need to get another GPU at all unless you need to work with 3D.
@hjd9157 I've watched the review u mentioned and literally the only thing the 7900xtx excells vs Nvidia is Photoshop. Everything else Nvidia is better. So I'm bummed atm that I even bought the 7900xtx and I'm as we speak trying to sell or trade for a 4080 or a 4080 super with somebody that's more a gamer and could use some better performance in gaming unless they fully rely on Ray Tracing and DLSS3.
@@nielsonandrade5440no amd for content creation is far behind currently unfortunately. They are only very competitive in the most known use case of a gpu, gaming. Everything else is Nvidia altho intel at its price tiers are just as competitive as nvidia now generally in content creation and with more vram.
I just love that beformance 😁 Great reviews man,this is actually only real review of this card so far,not just random numbers on screen and counting vram a bus.
If you can return it sure. I got my 4070 ti in November for around $720, so while it would be nice to return it and get this, I would also be paying more
AMD was crushing NVidia in $500 - $1000 cards, DOUBLING Nvidia sales at mindfactory on black friday, SAME dollars per card so ASPs would be HIGHER excluding 4090s! This release from NVidia is NVidia desperately yelping, UNCLE!
I am building my first PC, switching from Mac, for video editing in PPro and AE. Do you think it's a better option to go with 4070 super instead of 4070ti super if my budget is 1,5k to 2k $? Is it better to invest in much more ram and maybe stronger cpu? I was thinking about going with i7 14700k and 32gigs...
@@LOLJeezy Yeaah that's for sure, i just wanted to know what is the best option for the video editing case, cuz i don't wanna overspend if not necessary😅
I have i7 13700k and rtx 4070 ti and no problems editing files of sony a7iv 4k 60 10 bits for after effects have more vram is better so 4070 súper will be the right choice . I don't use too much AF but premiere and davinci resolve yes.
4070 Ti Super is 48mb of l3 cache only, your video is misleading. and where are the real life tests? the 4080 is still NOTICEABLE faster than 4070 Ti Super. The 4070 Ti Super is closer to 4070 Ti then 4080.
12 GB cards shouldn't be made in 2023. 16 should be the standard and only goes up from that point what a joke. AMD is great until any Ray tracing happens it falls on its face.
Honestly just kept it simple and move the 4070ti sold as 4070 super and original 4080 sold as 4070ti super to keep it simple not build something new and just downscale a 4090 board as a 4080 super with 20gb of vram (320 bit bus) but Nvidia continues to be greedy.
Great Review !! as always TechNotice The is would be my fist GPU as a first time builder but I am still not 100% sure on which I will going for I am looking at Nvidia mainly because I am planning on doing so 3D workloads on my GPU and team green seems to be the best for this. The 4070 TI Super seems like an attractive buy at ~$800 USD but look at amazon selection it's really between $830-$860. I feel like if I can afford to save up and get the 4070 Ti Super since I already beyond decent price to performace budget GPU at below $600 selection, why not just go bigger since 800 isn't too far 1000 for the 4080 super with more performance head room. I feel like the 4070 TI Super is badly priced I feel like it should have be a $650-$700 MSRP I like AMD offering if I am planning on gaming and photo and video editing only and prices seem within reason: 7800xt - $500-$570 7900xt - $710-$760 which has 20GB VRAM Another thing is AMD power consumption is high, where I am location price per KWH is expensive. My power target for the GPU is 250-300 watts maximum and Nvidia excel in this area. Any opinions on this anyone?
@hpotter Yeah. the VRAM amount would be the same at 16GB however it would be faster. The 4080 Super would actually be in the 80 series, unlike the 4070 TI super that trying to be on paper. I am not happy that for $1000 the 4080 Super is still 16GB, it really should have been 20GB. Looking at the pricing $800 vs $1000 is not a huge difference when shopping at this price point. Waiting on the 4080 Super reviews on performance to see if the extra $200 would just be a waste or if there is a decent uplift.
