Forgotten Characters - Why Genshin Impact CANNOT Abandon Them 

I'm still reeling from Sigewinne's SQ. That was just a slog

depends on the quest

@@CJdoesntlikehandles talk for 20 minutes, walk 20 feet, talk for 20 minutes, repeat 😂

Real, besides Chlorinde's story quest, literally every quest is just Paimon blabbering nonsense 90% of the time

​@@nplusk for the most part yeah, though theres at least always some sort of gameplay section(s) (especially in the larger world quests (like remuria's, which was actually mostly gameplay))

Hu Tao and Childe still rocking it hard tho

@@ra6765 Yep, especially if newer chars liften the older up. Like Furina did to Hu Tao or Noelle.

As a newer player I pulled for Ayaka on her last rerun. She turned out to be my worst choice

Lol you skipped Navia for ayaka😂​@@vladys001

@@Tempest27 funnily enough I got lucky and got Navia at 30 pity. But thank you for your gloating, I already mentioned how I regret pulling for 'Cryo queen'

TRUE THAT MAN APPEARS SO OFTEN 🤣

At least we know the events will be entertaining.

He has so many events but no reruns 😭

Itto is something boring & unfunny to me

@@Cuddle_with_Furina interesting take, I feel like half of the reason I’m sold on him is because of the eng voice actor

Omg, yes, because the main reason why kokomi is used in (hyper)bloom(when there isnt reall a need for heals) is because Mona doesnt have enough application off field(also her constellation related to hydro reactions wasnt updated and it doesnt boost bloom

Or Eula ult gauge emptying on the press of the button and not at the end of the ult animation. She could be batteried by a single cryo unit if that was the case

@@invarkul7831 I think she is fine the way she is, what she needs is a dedicated Physical support, preferably an electro healer. I like that her ulti cannot be activated prematurely, makes you consider when to actually use it. Her only problem really is just a lack of team building.

@@botondnyitrai3128 I'd still would love that qol change even tho it won't help her to be relevant. At this point even ulting on CD is less DPS than 90% of fountain cast

@@botondnyitrai3128 But you can prematurely kick off Eula's ult by switching to another character, but you do lose a lot of potential damage. It's still inferior to all front-loaded ults, especially when fighting high-mobility/teleporting enemies. I'd prefer they dumped the physical damage all toghether and re-built her as a proper cryo unit.

If she were that way, she would never fell off especially with the meta

​@@ivann9924 Well, there is a 4-star pyro applicator who is in the meta since times immemorial. So, if we have "Yelan is a 5-star XQ" situation, so why there could not be "Klee is a 5-star XL"? Klee's fault is her being released in 1.X era. // sad triple-crowned Klee owner

Yeah but they aint never gonna buff characters

She never would have left the meta cuz imagine klee having that burst aswell as her constellation def shred she'd be so broken

The thing is, it would remove her from her role as a main DPS, one that she fails. Her whole kit is meant for you to NA and CA and throw dodokos. The ult is for her to keep doing NAs and CAs stronger, not to buff others with pyro application. However, I do believe she shouldn't had be a on-fielderDPS in the first place. She is a catalyst yet her range is short, and she is quite clunky with her animations, especially if you compare with other pyro on-fielders whom have a smoother playstyle. She should have been a quickswap sub-dps instead, throwing dodokos, ulting and giving pyro for an on-fielder. They could even make her CA trigger her bombs thrown by the skill.

Chronicled

Feel like that was intentional

Chronicle wish banner dumb dumb

It had so much potential only to be ruined by how limited it was

​@@rosies69you are dumb

that seems like good way to see it.

Such were the times, the game was yet to come to its own. Sometimes, it is only natural for units to feel outdated

Eula's design still stands up

Depends. Venti's kit is very basic for an archon. Imo, sucrose has way more depth than Venti. Venti's kit is hard-carried by anemo's specialty. Other than that, he is pretty bare-bones. The energy passive is great and the ult is one of the most fun in the game, but he just feels very clunky and suboptimal to play for today's standards. Power-wise, we can say that venti is still limited banner, but barely. Kit-wise though, i wouldnt consider him a limited one. I always feel like kazuha is an updated venti. That guy aged so well. Even better than archons.

Eula was released after Xiao and Hu Tao and Ganyu, it's just liyue bias from the devs all their liyue 5* characters get new supports and are just generally better while monstadt 5*s eat dirt

I feel like it would put pressure onto new players as they have to pick between three characters, but then again this game doesn’t really care about newer players.

​@@Zyrobotthis game values new players more then endgame ones, adding another banner would make it easier for new players to get good characters and hurt old ones that already have them if anything

@@ZyrobotWhich means players feel forced to spend money since they’re stingy with rewards. It’s genius and I won’t be surprised if they do quadruple banners lmfao.

This system is just FAR better then the terrible chronichled wish banner, just have 3 or 4 banners run at a time so people can a least GET the old chars that THEY WANT

​@@Zyrobot For whom are they reducing difficulty, adding most random QoL (which are mostly useless for older players) and so on...?? They literally say this in every livestream that "this new function will help the newer players who are/were facing difficulties before"..... 😅

Good point yeah. That’s a better way to put it haha

This. Hoyo should just make quests that are only available at lvl 90 and improve the character's base kit. That way everyone is happy: the characters stay meta relevant but only if you are willing to invest time in them.

VENTI PART 2 STORY QUEST??!!????

Tbh they only gave core augemenf to free to play units (asterite/sp units) which don’t have a Genshin equivalent and there’s a a reason honkai stopped doing them powercreep is eternal eventually even those augments get power crept if they were ever even meta hoyo can’t balance them

​@@ventiifyopia idk why people keep asking for this. Hoyo is trying to save venti for last and cook up a goated story quest and people like you are so damn impatient. Why?

@@KingMufasa_8 I really hope his 2nd story quest involves his connection to the shade of time.

But see that's just for distribution it doesn't add to their power

@@Brownyan first half like were allow play private server

*they add chronicled banner* people: "its a scammm!! genshin could neverrr" *they remove chronicled banner* people: "omgg genshin could never"

@@sambitbasu1921 it's not that the banner itself is a bad idea, just that the way it was implemented was flawed to begin with

Chronicled banner should have used acquaint fate instead of intertwined fate if they wanted people to pull on it. They screwed it up.

Imagine a Klee story quest all about her relationship with her mother, lots of lore about the hexenzirkel but with the perspective of one of the witches' child, and at the end, we unlocked off-field application on her ult and a generous buff so she became at least a sidegrade of a meta pyro dps, or at least they made her into an actual 5* alternative to Xiangling whom isn't as ER hungry as her, and all of that in a Klee Re-run banner, maybe on children or mother's day. Imagine if they built it up with marketing and all of that. It would sell way more than just dropping her on a chronicle wish or an event.

Back when I still played The power five was like 3/4th (Xing Qiu, Xiangling, Fischl) of my team as Kaeya was my main on field phys DPS And carried me through All content till I quit I was that budgeted cause I was saving and building for Eula and had her team ready to go (Beidou, Diona) and still had a member of power 5 on standby (Bennett)

Yeah the difference between Acheron + Firefly and every other DPS is crazy. If future DPS aren't on Acheron or FIrefly's level then there's just no reason to pull for them lmao

The difference between Acheron + Firefly to Jing Yuan and Seele is crazy and powercreep is coming fast, but they’re still viable, Seele now being really good in Apocalyptic Shadow, I myself used her in n the gamemode and had zero issues (I’m not coping i swear)

​@wage942 I can't tell if your joking or not😂

@@paulyvii it doesn't help that endgame content is CONSTANTLY tailored around which character has just been released. I couldn't clear MOC 12 or PF4 for weeks. I finally got firefly after 145 wishes and cleared easily without even fully leveling or building her. It's insanity

You: =Gives a opinion= Hoyoverse: =Yes=

​@@valentinjesus6213 Genshin:No Hsr:YESSS

@@Ixy_Phoenix_Office Genshin: not the favorite child. Hsr: the favorite child.

Shenhe is a bad example people clearly don’t pull for her since genshin refuses to rerun her

​@@lakshans6962 She's too much niche. Her kit would be excellent for a 4 star, but for a 5 star, she shouldn't be just a Rosaria that buffs cryo a whole lot. I think 4* should all be about support, sub-dps and niche roles, and 5* all about on-fielders and characters with great role compression or characters that play completely different than all other characters, necessitating a whole team archetype for them( Like Furina or Arlecchino). Also, a c6 4* should be as good, even numbers-wise, than a 5* in their role. I do expect for example for Candace C6 to be a 5* level support for Ayato or Arlecchino and I do expect C6 Faruzan to be Anemo Shenhe. it's hard to get a C6 for a 4*, so I should have a worthy character for that.

Everyone meant to turning Spiral Abyss into actual PVP place instead.

Finally someone who understands that META is not reliable because it's always changing, and also, I agree. As someone with Chiori and Albedo who got both of them, I don't think that Chiori powercreeps Albedo. Albedo just needs a rerun for his sword, that's all honestly. If Albedo's BIS weapon comes back, he would definitely be better. I use Albedo more than my Chiori just because his Kit is so much easier

They did debut him on a Eula banner??? he is good with the physical carry, he buffs atk speed which eula as a claymore kinda needs, he buffs pjysical, he heals which is honestly needed since you probably wont be using Zhongli or another dmg mitigation or healer, and i havent used him but im pretty sure he does buff physical dmg even c0 its just that the bigger buff comes from c6, just like gorou, sara, and faruzan

@@wriothesleyenjoyer they didn't. It was a patch with a main event in Mondstadt, yet they thought it would be suited to have Dehya/Cyno and Ayaka/Shenhe banners. Mika debuted on the last one. His rerun, though, was with Eula/Klee.

@@wriothesleyenjoyer no he didnt. He debuted with Ayaka and Shenhe. That would have been extremely easy to check before commenting. Atk speed on claymores isnt as good as it should be because they have hit lag on impact. His speed buff only gets Eula 1 more hit/stack for her ult. Diona is one of Eulas best supports because she Shields, heals, and most importantly with Sac Bow gives a lot of energy that Eula really needs. If you don't know what your talking about, don't comment.

@@wriothesleyenjoyer a physical support that isnt good enough to be actual physical characters bis teammate is something of a joke tbh

@@lestatstaton7856 Mika also suffered from hefty competition in non furina eula teams cause they is also rosaria who has a lower skill cooldown if you want energy.

I've wanted an electro shielder for so long

You guys didn't count beidou? Or just wanted a new character with better scaling?

Mika buffs physical. And yeah, like the person above said, Beidou is an Electro Shielder at C1.

@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Mika buffs physical, yes. Do you think Mika was enough to make physical become substantially better in the grander scheme of things ?

@@Random2 He's about as underwhelming as Kujou Sara, limão.

Yeah. Diluc aslo got a lot of great support, like Xienyun and Furina, which brought him up to standard.

Klee's best team is Furina National.

I salute your dedication

Klee can proc Beidou's ult so it's even better, but I do think this team could improve if we have an "Electro Layla" or something.

@saimfaisal6795 the Liyue cast is more or less good and well,

I agree. Even Ganyu, who's probably doing the worst out of the Liyue- limited characters, has still found a way to be used more like a sub DPS to buff Ayaka and Wriothesley. Mondstadt has just been dealt a bad hand​ @@zente3003

funny enough, ganyu used to be the dps metric in the past and now between the three of them, she's the one with less updates or buffs nowadays. not saying she's already bad or she doesn't perform well anymore but compared to the amount of buffs and/or relevance hutao and xiao still has now, it's a bit unfortunate for her.

​@@kcamui__the problem is in cryo itself not ganyu, even ayaka and wrio are facing same problems

@@na42069 yeah mainly that too really. I only mentioned Ganyu because of Hu tao and Xiao as she's part of the Liyue Big Three too lol

Razor got saved because he can be used as a burgeon driver with c6 bennett and c6 xingqiu and that team is actually great even for f2p because you can use dendro traveler

I lost my kaz 50/50 to Dehya on his most recent rerun. I'm still really confused on her skill and ult being on the same character, because her skill feels like excellent support and her ult feels like the kind of thing you give to a DPS. but I've loved her as a support on vaporize teams if benny and xiangling were needed elsewhere. popped her on a team with C6 Barbara and tanky thoma as an experiment and ayato just. did not. die. it got ridiculously funny after a while. I'm not a die hard dehya fan, but she's definitely grown on me and I'm hoping she gets some much-needed love and attention in natlan when it comes out, maybe through indirect buffs (she might even be not so bad with emilie, if she likes burning. but I don't know much about her kit so I can't say)

Still... Nothings more than everyone hates Keqing

I put Dehya in Clorinde team and she did wonders for her interruption resistance. Paired with Thoma for better shield and pyro infusion, and Chev for obvious reasons, I'm shredding everything! Watching everything goes boom, boom, boom is so damn fun. But yeah, her ult really does a head scratcher every time I saw it got filled. Like, what should I do with it? Killing the combat pace? I hate the fact that I must ignore it and shouldn't press it if I want more damage and stability per rotation, considering it's one of a cooler burst too IMO. It's a damn shame that they tried to make her a tank and cannon at the same time, and when it doesn't work, it just massively fails at every aspect possible.

Mona can complete with c3 furina buff Nobless 20 atk 60 dmg omen Ttds 48 atk C4 20 crit rate

For a team like ayaka shenhe kazuha you can't use furina because of the healing unavailability unless c6 mona is good

They won't update characters unless it's a Chinese inspired character like Zhongli. Why would they? That's additional work + no revenue for them. They would just release a more powerful character, thus making more revenue.

@@beestek.94another reason too is they can’t nerf characters no matter how strong they are, due to the rules in china especially with gatcha games anything like characters or weapons that encourages or NEEDS to spend money to get can’t be nerfed since people spent money specifically for them meaning they shouldn’t risk any buffs since they can’t go back, that’s why zhong is still the best shield in the game to a ABSURD degree

@@pocketproductions7206 that's a myth. There's no law that makes gacha companies unable to nerf units. Read the tos. In summary, their servers, their rules. The fact we get primos for free means these characters do not "have to" be paid for. The reason gacha companies don't nerf is simply because it'd piss players off, the company would get a bad reputation.

Even limbus company cant nerf because of korean laws, and they are not the slithest greedy I think it's because you cant change a product someone already bought, like, you see a thing, you get it, but a week later you have a worst version of it

Maybe they could add new levels or new talents for every character that puts a patch on their problems, like uptie 4 in limbus, but it's not a fix

And hsr is the complete opposite where they don't even try to make the characters balanced and minimise powercreep. Units like Acheron and FF are out here with like 5-10 times the damage of JY and Seele. Compared to HSR I'll take Genshin anyday.

@@tnb4509plus the rate they release them is ridiculous like almost every new 5 star is ridiculously overpowered

​@@tnb4509 But old units like Seele can still clear the content

@@Sansrival1113 With insane Build.... Seele missing crit => can't kill a creep => huge dps loss

​@@Sansrival1113 that applies for both games, yet, the gap between seele's power and say someone like acheron or FF is huge

its because most people liked genshin for the unique combat system, so since the players are combat focused they cant really focus on story

The game has too many things to balance it can’t only focus on the story or the characters since they have different groups of players playing for different reasons

Awakenings usually only end up creating a larger divide because the fan favorites get awakenings and become even more broken.

It took me halfway through 3.x to get an in-set ER% piece for Raiden. Good luck.

They really should do a better job with the artifacts

Childe and Hu tao aswell like all of these characters are literally everywhere.

Zhongli is not that good, he is overrated af, most people who use him either play on mobile or really lazy to dodge

​​@@na42069 I'd argue on the contrary, he has gained more value recently due to mono Element hypercarry teams like Arlecchino or Neuvillette becoming a lot more viable, so Archaic Petra finally has a great and consistent use on very strong teams.

@@CritsVG you do have a point, but I don't see him worth pulling for, whenever I need a shield on a team, I just use layla and she gets the job done, although I may be losing the archaic petra buff and his res shred, it is not that big of a deal, he is too niche to me to pull for ( yes, he can be used in alot of teams, probably most hypercarry teams, but Im only talking about teams where he is the best option)

@@na42069 Also fair 👍 I think people who like him as a character can get him without any regrets, but I also see your point of view. Guess for me it's hard to really imagine, have had him since the day of his release.

Too bad that fks over newer players, people with bad luck and those who save up to focus on specific units for optimization. Plus if over half the roster is not available each rotation, that flips off MANY people even if old units. Then throw in you need to invest in talents, levels and so on just fks people over. Plus now apparently you need level 90+ units with intimacy being level 80 and it has to be ONE of the featured units plus you land locked to maybe 1-2 month waiting periods to get the ‘so called beeg reward?’ Those stupid trail effects is just Ephemera from warframe and lots of those things were FREE PERIOD, for people early on till they went rather degenerate waaaay after I left that game. If they wanna really reward people for crazy investment time limited stuff, it should be an alternate outfit at bare minimum but better way would be unique signature 5 star weapons as a trial reward for said units while acting as DLC for units you would NEVER use in the first place and using gacha currency for a signature weapon to improve UNDERPOWERED USELESS UNITS, would be pointless. Since the only reason some units went fking crazy was OP stuff like Kokomo straight up getting a signature artifact set that made her insanely broken as a result when she was originally ‘trash’ before. Moral of story: Mihoyo spits on too many faces and whoever copiums they ain’t doing anything wrong are really need to get away from Genshin for atleast an entire year and see how much it helps thar mental health. Hell them introducing weapon skins to have the theater let you get character specific skins to match up with the character would have been a much better value. And punishing gray raven has been for nearly 5’years had free to farm on release outfits and also weapon ‘coating’ skins every month, so it’s not that hard for mihoyo who is ‘way more rich’ to put overlays on stuff. Since even people been nodding over the characters on PC with ease. Which if they put it over a 30+ skin without anything extra like special particle effects, animations and moar, then why bother spend when you can just slap shriek on Diluc and replace his wolf gravestone with a ‘keep out of my swamp’ sign and proceed to smite all those squatters who Lee roaming in your swamp.~

​@@BladeSerph There's a reason why its an Endgame mode, its for ENDGAME players not NEW players 😭

If only we could then put them in teams where their niches can actually be spotlighted. With how much the current IT randomizes them and limits their scope of use without any compensation, this can end up worsening biases older players have towards these units they've avoided touching long ago. Units like Chevreuse and Overload teams NEED each other to create something that doesn't feel and play awful

@@mikhaelis1447 then why market it as a rogue’lite, hand out freebie ‘trial’ units and basically make it take over what appears to be 6+ months just to have a valid team comp if you are severely lacking units in the elements that run? If they don’t bother to reduce the grind time after 5 years of this crap, then why bother playing if older players won’t have enough time to acquire resources to prepare characters they had no reason to work on. While newer players will have no reason to care about doing it besides primogems or something, so they will be forced to struggle on early stays and waste resources to prepare units for that but also SUFFER because they also need to prepare resources for units on spiral abyss. It’s a no win situation of stress. Meanwhile I can be happy that wuthering waves has wasted no time dumping around 4 x2 resource events recently to make the grind to get my stuff to the 70s just that much faster. Oh and gen’stingie still has that day of the week resource lock if I recall correctly, which is just an extra burning cigarette, on your exposed wounds from said cuts.. Anyway, it just goes to show that gen’stingie ain’t doing a good job trying to entice people, especially those immune to fan’service bull’shite that we know the characters will be hard nerfed ingame. Cause we all know the ‘Himeko’ character is probably gonna have Rosaria’s or Jeanne’s body model type and likely have the body shape MASSIVELY NERFED compared to the banner art. Just like they did with Ittou and just like how they literally just drew lines on ‘dendro rule 63 Keqing.’

@@BladeSerph hey, I'm sorry you don't like the new gamemode, but please put that in your own comment instead on landing a dump on my enjoyment of old units. Nothing of what you said has anything to do with my comment

More buff for Xiangling to snapshot lmao

liyue charcters has always been good

Hmmm.... Hmmmmmmm.......

yeah that falls apart when you think about how liyue also has a bunch of super mid/niche characters lol.

​@@euquariateLike who?

@@scaler7812 xinyan, qiqi, ganyu and shenhe (altho this is arguably due to cryo being useless atm), keqing, chongyun, ningguang, yanfei, yunjin, and gaming. yes I'm aware not all of them are useless or bad but none of them are particularly broken or that good, and I'm not trying to crap on these characters I actually do like most of them it just is what it is.

Determined players make up an extreme minority of the player base. I’m speaking in regards to the majority. Most people are trend followers.

@@VarsII Nah, majority are casual players that would sooner ignore end game content than spend hours grinding for optimal builds. I remember Doro looking at an account that only has Lisa at level 90 and everyone else at level 1. If they pull for a new character it's not because of the meta, but because they like that character.

​@@Destiny87 Ah, I remember that account. The funny thing was that they kept pulling for five stars they wouldn't level up instead of Kagura's verity. Not mention Lisa's weapon wasn't even leveled to 90, if I remember correctly.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@VarsIIfrom my experience, inside the actual game majority of players play characters because they like them, ive found significantly more dedicated mains compared to meta players in coop (and i play coop quite a lot).

@@VarsII Nah, most people in Genshin are just waifu/husbando enjoyers who pull for the characters they like. You also can't expect most players to follow trends or meta in a gatcha game since a lot of them are F2P or low spenders.

No chances for that, people won't spend money on new characters if old ones work just fine

@@cringe805 except Limited time challange like Saurian Seach than Spiral Abyss

@@arocomisgamusclademork1603 what? What do you mean?

@@cringe805 spent money in Genshin used in limited event challange domain like Saudrian Seach

@@arocomisgamusclademork1603 i don't understand what you're trying to tell

The funny thing is that we have a boss that have earthuquakes and being airborne is optimal. The onlyv thing is that this boss buff your jump height and venti or albedo are obsolete for this boss fight 🤡

What Physical Character need is Deff shredd Character. Cuz they dont have their own VV. So make electro deff shredd its a good plan

what mechanics make mika feel wack to play?

​@@Cajun_Seasoning I say this as a Eula simp but he does make her teams slightly harder to build around if you want to use him. I haven't experienced the trouble of it much but his skill lasting 15 seconds instead of longer definitely hinders rotations, since you'll have to use him second to last in the rotation, and there aren't many abilities that last long enough periods of time to let that happen (Shogun's skill and Furina's burst are some examples of lasting longer than Mika's skill). You want as much time as possible for Eula to have the boosted state, and she needs to stay on the field during the entire duration, otherwise the effect fizzles into nothing. Worst parts about it is that Atk speed, while useful on Eula, doesn't allow her to attack that much faster. She only gains 1-2 additional stacks on her burst pre-c6, and the fact that the physical increase ability requires multiple enemies to be hit instead of a slow ramp up ability similar to Yelan's. If they made it so that his A4 could be triggered multiple times (and completely changed his C2 into something better than what it is, why it wasn't in the base kit is beyond me) he would be a much better unit. Though, this is just my opinion so don't take only my word for it. I'm still gonna use my chocobo boy Mika for Eula since Furina made him a much better and more fun unit to use. Ocean-hued Clam Mika go brrrr

@@omegadefender85 thanks for the breakdown

@@Cajun_Seasoning np dude, you have a good day :)

The thing is Klee is outdated I got her and I like to play with her ,but she feels really slugish and outdated. Genshin needs to update those old characters, something like a powerup quest or something. If only her Ultimate worked offield she would still be used😑 Most people will not pull C2 for an old Charcters to be good ,when there are Characters like Arlecchino and Lyney who work perfect at C0 and are even stronger. One way of updating this old characters would be to increase their drop rate something like pity at 45 than people would summon for them and they could compete with new characters.

​@@doriansz3130 tbh even if her Q were to work off field similar to xingqiu and yelan, I doubt she stands a chance against xiangling 😂

@bryon197 If her burst worked off field, Xiangling would be crying in a corner Do you know how quick and powerfully Klee hits? Xiangling has no ICD but Klee hits so fast that ICD doesn't matter lol I pulled Klee as a noob in 1.0 and I've never really used her for endgame, but she applies so much pyro that hydro units can vape consistently, and I think no other character can do that solo

@@justapasserbyrandomperson9325 Yeah, but Klee can not snapshot unlike xiangling, so she doesn’t dish out as much damage as her. Xianglings pyro application is enough to sustain vaporize for all hydro characters with the exception of childe and ayato (when his Q is active). We don’t have a hydro hu tao, or a character that can abuse her more frequent pyro application for consistent vaporizes. Xiangling is still more than enough for now.

@@byron197 No, there's a difference Xiangling herself vapes off of hydro Klee enables hydro units to vape Xiangling can't apply enough pyro to let any hydro applicator except Ayato forward vape I believe (and not even him if he has attack speed buffs) If you run Xingqiu with Klee, you'll notice Xingqiu's swords vaporizing sometimes, that's how much pyro Klee applies 💀 Ofc Klee can't keep up with someone like Neuvillette but only Klee can solo enable you to forward vape 100% of the time with other hydro characters. Xiangling's ult and Bennett C6 together apply as much pyro as Klee alone If they let Klee be more of a support by letting her burst work off field, Klee would overthrow Xiangling, no doubt. Klee was screwed over by Hoyo but she definitely had potential to be the best pyro support, especially considering half her kit revolves around her buffing her team Edit: What I mean is that Klee's own damage wouldn't matter much, since she's just there to enable you to vape. As a result, her not snapshotting is a non-issue.

no rerun for keqing :(

I could try 1440p resolution maybe haha

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Eula marchese hunter furina... 90 to 100 percent crit rate.... Miss now.

Agree with most of what you said, but furina increasing the teams damage by 50% means 1.5*80% which is only 120%. So she provides an equal increase regardless of power level

Eula marchese hunter... there goes the crit problem

@@jorgetiagosilva Actually, she doesn't. She increases DMG Bonus equally but not *_overall_* damage equally. There are some teams that are oversaturated with DMG Bonus. Neuvilette gets between 90%-100% Just from his set and passive alone. Even more if using his signature. However, teams like Physical and self-vape/self-melt _also_ get this damage increase to their non-Physical damage (if you do the math is a relevant portion of the damage). Or characters like Childe or Lisa that have damage spread equally on different parts of their kit benefit more from Furina's buff having no restrictions unlike weapons and artifact sets' restriction to NAs, CAs, Skills and Bursts.

i guess in the case of childe and Hu Tao it's due to how they are probably the best in most ST and AoE situations. As for Tao i think it's due to double hydro teams with xy or jean making it a pretty strong team in ST and AoE. she may not be top 3 but she's still top 5 as she probably has the highest ST team in thr game.

you really dont, i pulled for Itto back whe he didnt really have a team and still used him and cleared most content, meta is an illusion unless youre playing spiral abyss which even then, i managed to clear this phase's abyss with a random team of XInqiu, Mona, Wrio and i think Diona

Eula my beautiful spindrift knight with the nicest ass in the game. I don't care if she's not (meta) Phys has been left behind a bit But I hold hope. Besides I'm switching from pale flame to marcheause hunter. Furina I'm pulling for. Sigh You get near 100 crit rate of that set. Theoretical 300 or up crit rate Her issue here song of broken pines didn't give crit rate.

Yeah I remember when Ganyu was regarded as the most broken dps.. so much has changed lol

Vars is not a theory crafter so don't take his videos so seriously. Diluc did get a buff with the release of Xiunyun thanks to being the character with the highest plunge multiplier. So, he specifically got a huge buff from her. Klee also got some big buffs with the release of Furina. Klee needed a slow hydro applicator for her monopyro team and Furina was THE perfect character for that. Eula CAN get a individual buff very easily if they somehow would buff physical but unfortunately Hoyo refuse to give any attention to it. Also, I don't think Klee is outdated. She is actually one of the most underrated characters in the game imo. Poeple forget that dmg numbers don't paint the whole picture. Klee has insane pyro application meaning she can destroy shields super fast. She also has very high pyro particle generation and her charged atks also has high poise dmg. These are the things that matters a lot in gameplay but not talked much outside of the Theorycrafting communities.

See Jamie video for the counter argument for that. Klee + Furina is insane, and actually competitive for speedrun.

Blame RU-vid for that 😞 people only watch critical or negative videos so I mostly try to go a “but there is hope!” Angle

@@VarsII i don’t!

I'm wishing for another Furina kind of unit that buffs general damage on Natlan, so I can keep making him a powerhouse~

i agree but Eula doesnt really hae any competition, Razor is a four star which pretty much instantly makes him weaker, Xinyan is actually a pyro dps once people read her kit, Rosaria and Mika are supports and thats pretty much everyone EDIT: I forgot about Freminet since i dont use him but he has the same issue as razor and most people use him for melt since he is technically a viable melt dps

"I didn't watch the video"

@@mptyalln Don't need to. I've seen others and Vars has so many stupid takes with not 3 seconds of thoughts put into them, I gave up watching any others.

true but when was the last time we got a new 5 STAR mondstadt unit?

@@DiamondCityLights Why would we need one? Fontaine is present, Natlan is about to drop. Maybe when that stretch between Stone Gate and Stormterror's lair is finally unlocked but otherwise, there's no need really.

I am perfectly happy with how she is today. This will also seriously improve when cryo will gain importance again ... Snezhnaya?