Former Menendez Brothers’ Prison Guard Raises Concerns About the Famous Inmates 

Yes,i am confused about this episode.

Spot on, Angela. I totally agree!

Well, mission accomplished. Jose and Kitty got the worse. But they didn't get their day in court, and they had that right

@Kim Morgan I'm not disagreeing with you, we're discussing the circumstances of something that has already happened.

So should we let our serial killers that grew up with terrible sa and physical abuse? How about rapists that had that unbringing? A lot of locked uo child abusers had horrific trauma growing up? Your argument lacks logic.

Thank you for your service.

I agree with you

@@megmeyer7563 Thank you! 😊

💯 Agree with you. It isn't ok to murder, but they gave served many years.

Agree 100%. What they did is never acceptable. But what those boys endured over years at the hands of their father means that to judge them in the same light we'd shine on any random person doing the same, is not only unfair but incorrect.

@@Boss_Lady.325 I remember their trial. I was a new mom, married just over a year. I have experienced SA as a child and a young adult. I believed them at the time but I always wondered if it was because of the post-natal hormones and my past. These men need to be set free.

He actually never said they should remain in prison because of a vibe.

Ha! He didn’t say they should get out lol😂 did he? Just that they were trying to gain access to where they shouldn’t go once and that really annoyed him. Gimme a break.

Exactly

Set them FREE!!!

@reeset2198 my thoughts exactly

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Absolutely. Wisdom comes from many life paths, respect to all.

Love the shareing of awarness' ❤ Awarness of how humans can turn so fast Jusgments racism can be spread so easily Hipefully the speakingbout dows help to educate people ' Also of course giveing a voice to survivors Of the unimaginable suffering cruelty Inhuman judgments So so brave

And the I agree but they premeditated 2 murder. They weren't young children. They could of left at anytime And turned him in. But they would of had to work and take care of themselves. And they didn't want to do. Keep them where they are.

@@sandyt7225 It was not premeditated. Watch the first trial. Abuse victims often feel they can't leave. Their father controlled everything. Look up Learned Helplessness.

@@sandyt7225 It wasn't premeditated, but even it was, their parents abused them for years. That alone is a mitigating factor.

​@@sandyt7225Have you been through such sexual abuse? Most likely not so please shut your mouth

I agree but they could have gotten off their spoiled lazy tails and go work. They were grown men no excuse. They were not in imminent danger at risk to lose their life or great bodily harm.

They were adults, not boys. And they are not remorseful. They put on the crocodile tears when it suited them from day one.

33 years now they’ve spent in prison for doing what needed to be done.

@@chattahuffman5117 They where boys 'the male brain doesnt finish developing till up to 27 The desition makeing part of the brain Be nice to be so fortunete to not understand what they went through There father eas a monster/ tyrent' the mother a bitter depressed drunk Abuser also Physical/ sexual' verbal' torterouse rape'pushed physically with fear fear also 'sports' The fathers sister testified to this and more'many whitneses'there reactions are typical of a victim PTSD no doubr dissociation to cope Torture from the most importent development years A powerful father' no escape Get educated on abuse 'espeically to this degree

Agree

Especially considering we all have done wrong, maybe not murder but I believe they deserve another chance.

I'm sorry to hear that! My teenage daughter wants to go into law enforcement and over the years I have successfully pushed her from beat cop/prison guard to forensics/criminal profiling lol desk work.

Yeah it was clear they never seen the trial. Which is a shame to judge before knowing the truth.

What bothered me was that his first description of one of the brothers was his physical appearance.... i.e. " ripped"....... That disgusts me !

@@janeferguson4455 , I agree.

Well, consider the source and why the hate is being directed at Hector in the first place. The Menendez brothers have a fervent following who want them released from prison. They have a narrative that the brothers deserve freedom and that their heinous crimes should not have condemned them to life without parole. That is what they feel, but because of the depravity of their crimes, it has always been incumbant of them to minimize the crimes that they committed that landed them in prison in the first place, and to basically project any moral shortcomings of the brothers onto anyone who has held them to account for their crimes or anyone who dares to go on the record as being skeptical of the brothers in general. Beginning with José and Kitty Menendez, the Menendez Brothers and their supporters have always deflected and spin doctored their way out of any accountability by impugning anyone with a dissenting voice, so them trying to brand Hector Bravo as some random grifter seeking his 15 minutes of fame is par for the course with these folks, because it is never the fault of Erik and Lyle Menendez and anyone who dares to say anything other than the carefully crafted revisionist history that they and others like Robert Rand have tried to portray them as over the years are somehow bad faith actors who have a hidden agenda and are therefore part of a diabolical web to keep the brothers incarcerated forever, neverminding the fact that they were convicted of double murder in the first degree nearly three decades ago. Everyone from José and Kitty Menendez, to Judge Weisberg, reporter Dominick Dunne, all the prosecutors from the first and second trials, witnesses like Jamie Pizsarcik, Glenn Stevens, Jerome Oziel and others, detectives like Les Zoeller and Tom Linehan, or relatives like Brian and Milton Anderson -- somehow they all had it in for the poor Menendez brothers, who to supporters should be seen as totally blameless in this entire gruesome saga. None of these players would even be relevant to the brothers if not for the decisions they made in 1989, and yet all these years later the brothers and their supporters are always quick to brand these folks as liars, opportunitists, corrupt, greedy, promiscuous, etc. without so much as once pondering on the very irony of having the audacity to question the moral terpitude of those who had investigated, prosecuted, or testified against them in their murder trial in the first place. It's true that Mr. Bravo may not be someone in the know on the level of central figures like David Conn or Gil Garcetti, but he has probably had more interaction with Erik and Lyle Menendez over the course of these past seven years than any of the sympathetic Menendez jurors from the first trial, I would hazard to guess. As a prison guard, he no doubt has a more up close and personal insight on the brothers than most average folks do. And prison is a harsh environment, so for anyone to claim that the brothers are somehow above the fray are being naive. It would be nice if David Conn were still alive today to counter Erik and Lyle Menendez's attempt to walk free like Vincent Bugliosi was to counter Charles Manson and his followers into the 1990's and 2000's. But unfortunately, as more and more figures central to the Menendez prosecution pass on, the brothers have been given carte blanche to spread their lies unchallenged. I feel that one of the reasons why there's a strong chance of Manson Family member, Leslie Van Houten could be set free is because we don't have Vincent Bugliosi around today as a firewall or check on these sort of travesties.

@@jstephenj Stop it. Those "witnesses" were all proven to be unreliable. Your own personal experiences have nothing to do with this case, and you conveniently ignore the evidence that corroborates the brothers' defense.

AB is cool 😎

Oh, I thought he said they were sociopaths when they committed the crime.

THAT is scary. C.O.'s & all law enforcement officers really have to be on guard at all times. Very stressful.

@@djholliday5132 I think I was too young to know i should be afraid , really. He would have killed the guy if he followed outside and tried anything....

Exactly

I’m 71 and because of my childhood sexual, emotional and physical abuse I will never heal. Can you know what it’s like to want to be dead almost every day and wanting to be happy. I will never full be well no matter how long I live. I even have trouble with my relationship with God damaged because I wasn’t protect by the father. We call God our father in heaven but when our earthly father fails us or abuse or shows no love our relationship with God can be damaged. I hate that most of all

I disagree. Lots of people have suffered child SA but they do not kill their parents and they do not feel they are "victimized the rest of their lives." Everyone is not that weak. I suffered child SA but I do not share your mindset. I simply got over it.

@cjking4511 I appreciate your comment. I disagree with you because this invasion by another person upon you goes deeper than just brushing it away and walking off. The psyche is very complicated for each person, and the invasion of your personal space leaves you wary of other people. The trust you once had is never the same. If you can walk around like nothing happened in your inner self, you're either trying to fool yourself or others. People do snap and end up doing things they never thought they would. Those boys' minds hadn't reached full maturation, and they felt no way out because of the power of their father and the lack of care from their parents. Their "no" was taken from them. They deserve another chance. Abuse, no matter what it is, is wrong!

@donnawhitney9356 Donna, my heart goes out to you. I understand how you feel. I hope that before you leave this earth, you can stop feeling guilt, fear, and lack of self-worth. None of this was your fault. Stop carrying the sin of your abuser. Forgive yourself and them. Find peace in knowing you have the power to forgive, or your abuser will continue to abuse you as they have in your life. God will deal with them way better than you or I ever could. Please trust yourself enough to be that bigger person. I'll pray for you! 😪❤️‍🔥🙏💔

100% agree with you! No one actually watched the case!! Its crazy how they can have a strong opinion on someone and just go off what the media told them years ago! If they watch the case they would have a change of heart.

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Also, being entitled isn't a reason to keep them in jail anyway. They are allowed to be unlikable to a guard.

@@sunnymoondog exactly!!!

He loves his boots so much

He’s looking for his 2 second of fame…… Joel, what are you doing!,,,

​@@filmsgilmore but... maybe I need to listen to this again. The guest didn't say they shouldn't be let out, did he? I think the title of the video is misleading?

Well said!

I don’t understand either. It really felt like people wanted to shut down any opinion that might not align with their own and I don’t understand that mentality. He’s not promoting anything harmful, he was talking about the system and what he observed with the Menendez brothers.

Ya. Really bothered me a lot the level of disrespect for him. He’s doing a job as difficult and risky as the military (you heard him!). So we should be GRATEFUL for his SERVICE! 🙏🏼

Exactly! And that is stealing away a child’s innocence and sense of security.

No only proven child abusers. All you have in terms of evidence is the word of two murderers and even their word does not meet the legal requirements of imminent danger from their parents

So if the Mother pssibky suspected, but wasn't sure, she deserved to be gunned down. Ridiculous. They couod have left, reported the Dad to authorities. It was a BS embellished defense.

@@Thomas-fk3cw exactly. It’s called accountability. Just because they were abused doesn’t excuse their actions. They were 18 and 21. There’s no reason they could not leave home. Get a job and move on with their lives. People said they couldn’t leave, but they managed to leave to go anywhere else, including going to buy two shotguns. so they could have left instead of going to buy two shotguns. They could’ve went straight to the authorities.

An example of how effed up the world is...people think Joel is great for having a convict on his show...and will "lose credibility" for having a VETERAN who was a correctional officer for many years. It's insane!!

@@djholliday5132 yes it really is astonishing how wicked and crazy people get!

They were grown men. Not kids.

@@djholliday5132 are you aware of the psychological affects severe trauma has on the developing brain? They literally stopped growing mentally and emotionally when the abuse happened

@@Angela-219 I'm really sorry you have a lot of issues. But, going through abuse as a child does not give someone a free pass to commit murder. Actions have consequences.

@@djholliday5132 you have no idea the “issues” I have. I just understand psychological effects on the brain. I’m Sorry you don’t. Actions have consequences and they’ve served their time.

At 18 years old they are kids!!! Especially when they were being controlled their whole lives every way possible. Show me an 18 year old thats a grown man!

exactly

Bec mom allowed it and knew all along. Just as bad imo. Mom kept her mouth shut an essentially abandoned her sons bec she loved the money

Whatever happened to them..their parents did not deserve to die by their children's hands in such an over the top violent manner, or any manner..Plus the children had NO REMORSE and did not come forward with the abuse charges until years later..But, they sure were anxious on spending all that money that came to them after the killings.

Well their dad was a pedophile and he raped them for years!! They always spent money like that. It was very normal to them. If you would have watched the case you would know more about the father from the family testimony including his sistets.

Is this a serious comment?Are you for real? Did you follow the trial thirty years ago? Were you even alive? Which of these is your excuse for not being well acquainted with the facts of the case presented then? Their mother was what is defined as an Enabler, this means she was Fully Aware of the Horror her young children were enduring day after day, for Years, yet None of the protective instincts toward the children of her womb were stirred up to protect them??! Recent accounts revealed her husband also raped someone else's child simply because he had access and abused his trust. Who knows what other victims of his remained silent? People who think like you do, are what's wrong with our world. People like you looked the other way for years whilst those young boys were raped. When the nasty truth comes out, you blame the victim. Remorse you say? For what? Ridding the world of two twisted Monsters??

Because she knew what was happening and she did nothing to protect them. Not saying what they did was right or wrong. But as a SA victim myself I know abuse causes you to have a life sentence all by itself. I will never be who I could have been had I not been abused. They served longer than they should have so they should be given freedom. I feel that Lyle was more to blame. I feel he influenced Eric. Eric was abused longer and at the time of the killing had just been informed that he wasn’t going to have it stop. I think he broke and Lyle told him what to do. Eric used to being what to do did what he always did which was do as told.

So if someone kills 2 people you love and claim they abuse them It would be OK if they would be released.

@@sandyt7225 Actually, their family members support them (many testified on their behalf) and want them to be free. This is why people should watch the first trial.

If they release two people who commit premeditated murder of two people based on abuse claims.then you have to release all the other murders who claim these were abused.

@@sandyt7225 They killed their abusers who posed a threat to them their entire lives. That's not the same as someone killing an innocent or random person and using past abuse as a defense.

@@Muirmaidenthe abuse claims was made up as an attempt to get off. Fact is they were two spoiled losers and because their dad wanted them to be responsible, they killed him.

No, they qrre 21 and 18, they could have left if their abuse was even true. And xmzero reason to kill their Mom. They are creepy sociopaths that wanted their parents money.

They could have moved out. They did this bc they didn’t want to live up to their parents expectations but didn’t want to lose the fortune

And you also have to release all other premeditated murders that claim abuse.

He is that and super talented in what he does.