Nightmare On Elm Drive - The Menendez Brothers | ICMAP | S3 EP7 

No I never really did however who really knows what went on behind the scenes, it also depends on who you listen to when reviewing the case. Great work man ☺️

Someone who murders their parents because they were abused does not immediately pop out to buy a Porsche, Rolexes and a Restaurant.....textbook rich kids who want the money!!

In partial.

Btw kitty did know what was going on when she saw that...obviously without the boys they could sit down and watch a movie..she had mentioned before that she was already scared of them..she was caught by surprise is what happened.

Guys i just wanted to help w the pronunciation of José name..its pronounced Hoe-zay w an english accent and Huh-seh w a correct Spanish accent. 🤗👍🏻👌

Absolutely. The dad seems like a dirtbag abuser and the mom clearly acted like she didn't know anything and let it happen.

They gave there parents life 2lieing losers

The mom abused Lyle too!!

​@@barbarabreunis7788no evidence of any abuse..u have neen fooled by their lies

And learning how controlling their father was, I wouldn’t be surprised if the dad froze the brother’s accounts/finances as a source of punishment.

And if u think about it in their eyes it wasn’t rlly anything special Bc they had been spending this kind of money before they even killed their parents. When their parents died they were spending around the same amount of money they would spend when their parents were alive.

Yup if you cage an animal when you let them loose they will go wild

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WHAT? You actually believe them..

Oh sorry their so handsome ok

@@seamusblack5876 yeah I do and it has nothing to do with their looks, when they’re talking about their abuse you can see them going back to those moments of helplessness and regressing back to being children.

@@NikiR88 I swear some people have no empathy. Who cares if they were wealthy and handsome they absolutely didn't deserve what they went through.

@@AndiKowalski it has nothing to do with being empathetic or not, it's about believing them or not. Personally I believe that there could have been abuse because their dad was clearly a ped but his type was young girls so I don't know if they're just using that information to make themselves look like victims or if their dad really was a monster. They've had a while to practice their sob stories anyway. I definitely don't trust them but that's just my opinion, we're all entitled to them, the way they talk about themselves as young boys to me doesn't sound like regression it sounds like manipulation. Putting on quiet voices and crying with no tears doesn't really scream innocent to me. I write this short essay to explain to you that not believing two convicted killers doesn't instantly make a person cold hearted. A person without empathy is a psychopath, you're basically calling everyone who doesn't believe their stories (of which there have been a few) psychopaths based off of a simple question. Does that make you empathetic? The bigger person? Or does it make you unable to comprehend that it could be possible that the people who died are also victims and that some people reserve their empathy for the people who died and can't defend themselves against these accusations? Having empathy doesn't mean that you trust everyone blindly, do you have any empathy for the mother and/or father at all? Do you think that the mother deserved what they did to her? Genuinely curious to see how full of empathy you really are 😄

Thanks Kirsty!

Hoe-se 🤣

Exactly! And they went from 0 to 100% emotional fullspeed. Nobody is that good at acting. This was real. These boys had been raped and mentally and physically tortured!

A Red Dwarf reference, I believe :) ... I hope!

Thanks Georgia!

I find it better to watch on RU-vid bc they show pictures and real time videos from the case

Fantastic animations too, don't wanna leave anyone out!

Thank you so much for the lovely feedback, Paul! We always appreciate it! And yeah, Phil Whitz is the animator - on fire once again!

@@ICouldMurderAPodcast Full credit to Phil for his amazing artwork, and thanks for the response guys.

😆 thanks for the laugh that was cute!!

Thank you! :)

Thank you!

Thank you as always, Carmel. Hope you are well! ❤️

Hey Sia, thank you so much for your kind words. Let us know what your students think! haha❤️

@@ICouldMurderAPodcast I will haha I have a feeling the female students in particular will thank me for the recommendation *wink wink*🤭😁🙋

That’s amazing 😦

I do feel bad for Kitty about being an alcoholic, drug abuser etc. but their was also allegations against her that she also abused the boys and wanted Jose to continue to abuse the boys. She would sort of inspite some of the abuse. For example the police found lists that she would make telling Jose that “Erik wouldn’t eat his food” so Jose could beat Erik

Well honey that’s you. Not everyone response to abuse the same. It’s attitudes like yours that helps abuse flourish and get swept under the rug.

@@leandradozier968 So you believe they were right in blowing them away? You don't have any idea the abuse I grew up with. You have no right to judge me. But my Mother made him leave even with his death threats. Murder is not the answer. There are ways to expose the abuse. They were adults..they could leave. I do believe they should be released.

@@dana_brooke_27 what I’m saying, they had it coming to them. The extreme physical and sexual abuse to beheading a dog, this unfortunately the result. It’s insane to me what their father got away with and what their mother let go down.

@@leandradozier968 So sad isn't it? And so insane it goes on everyday and the abusers get away with it. It pisses me off. Of course the father really got what he deserves. She was a broken abused women and of course that's no excuse but we don't know what really went on between the parents. She obviously was just as messed up as him. She should have kicked his ass out years ago for the sake of her children.

UTV Sargie!

How insightful

Well when there are very few good men..

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Same.

Enjoy!

Have there ever been any nightmares on Elm Drive in Brighton, Mr Watto? 😦

I Could Murder A Podcast it was by an estate where all my pals lived & remember a couple of parties as a teen in the 80's. These were some nightmare moments from those.... 😁

Thank you!

Your channel is awesome! :)

@@ICouldMurderAPodcast You're sweet, than you :) Still in its infancy.

Same!!!! Was in my recommendations - maybe because I am doing a series in this case right now on my channel- Subbed here quickly! Very calming podcast 🙌🏻

It’s so so bad isn’t it! Can’t believe they haven’t pulled it!

Sorry but what is the SNL clip?

Thanks Charlotte! 💀❤️

Is the grass greener over there?

Thanks so much, Scott! Definitely interesting cases there :)

Calabasas has gated homes 🏡

They were severely psychologically damaged by their parents so who knows.

Very valid shout 😂

Good luck for tomorrow!

@@ICouldMurderAPodcast thank you

@@niamhdocherty3138 How did you do?

@@crikeymikey4966 long time ago but I passed from what I remember! Thank you 😊

Thank you so much! 🥰 We hope we dont disappoint

I noticed that too. Inappropriate.

@@HappyExtheist Very.

Oh god 😂

Thank you! ❤️

Tom does THE BEST impression of Ronnie...

@@ICouldMurderAPodcast hope it doesn’t involve being bent up like a pretzel?🥨

They have clubs like rod and gun club. Handguns are big for everyone. Have to take course,get finger printed, pay a fee and it comes and you get license or conceal carry license.everyone men and women own guns. You have to in theU.S., our leaders hate us. 😟😡😟qq

Parents credit cards, cash from within the house. I think it was close to $1m they spent which would add up from that.

they were told they were taken out the will a year or so before the parents were killed. Then once they were informed that they actually hadnt been taken out the will, they were able to use the credit cards / money.

The brothers found the head in the fridge. Multiple interviews about this.

Let’s catch up in 20 mins!

Not quite obvious as u think bc family, friends, phycologists, body language analysts, neighbors, Family friends, girlfriends etc. testified saying they believed them and gave evidence too. Also they testified that they had tried to run away/get away but they couldn’t (not saying I do or don’t believe them just saying what they stated)

This isn't about what "most kids would want to do". Abused children do not all act the same, or have the same reactions. What I'm saying is, I don't find this to be a valid enough point. Also it apparently wasn't as "obvious" as you'd think considering the grand jury did not indict them on charges of murder for financial gain because of the lack of actual evidence to support this, plus a 17 page letter Lyle wrote to Erik that certainly did not help the "murder for money" motive they wanted to push.

It’s just their dynamic. One is genuine, one is sarcastic. It’s what keeps such a dark subject relatively light. They’re good friends. A lot of people misinterpret British banter between friends as conflict. Unless you’re British yourself and just missed that it was a persona thing?