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I had never before thought about going to the village of Großkrotzenburg, but I just had to check out NATO Street. As it turns out, the place has slightly more history than I ever realized.
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@MartinMundorf
@MartinMundorf 3 года назад
these ramps we have at the Rhine (of course) as well - when I was a child, my grandfather told me "its for the americans to move faster backwards when the russians are coming" xD - some of those ramps are still used today by public ferries
@mrnice81
@mrnice81 3 года назад
Not to forget: the Leopard 2 can do so called deep water wading up to a depth of 4 meters with a snorkel.
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
And TPZ Fuchs 1 (combat engineer variant) can still swim ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gx9guWfscCQ.html
@juststeve5542
@juststeve5542 3 года назад
Be careful, so can the BMP 2... And it's got a gun! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gxBRb36IVkY.html
@surveyore7
@surveyore7 3 года назад
As a young American GI, I was on a 'Bailey Bridge Building Exercise' in Ingolstadt. Have never forgotten how hard we worked to cross the Donau... Ya... I bet there a whole lot of 'Nato Streets' in Germany. I spent 12 fantastic years there as a surveyor. Got to see a whole lot! Excellent Video!
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
Nowadays things can be a bit easier ... 350m of bridge in 34 minutes ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UnVb0GHMuDs.html
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
In English ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L0KYezoyfaQ.html
@austinman1234567
@austinman1234567 3 года назад
There is a Baily Bridge in my home town, Rotherham UK: www.life-publications.com/rotherham/the-bailey-bridge-eastwood-rotherham/
@kaduvettikuppan3712
@kaduvettikuppan3712 3 года назад
That devil lies in the detail. You make a small village look like a giant historical place. Your commentary brings life into those otherwise boring lifeless walls.
@johncrwarner
@johncrwarner 3 года назад
Like people making videos about the "least used station in ..." those stations get visited and the following year a new station is the least used.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 2 года назад
I do think "open 2pm to 5pm every second Sunday of the month" did put things into perspective.
@petereggers7603
@petereggers7603 3 года назад
Some parts of the german Autobahn don't have a greenstrip in the middle to seperate the lanes of each direction, but a flat concrete surface with only the guardrails instead... they're built to become emergency airstrips in the "case of defense".
@surveyore7
@surveyore7 3 года назад
As a surveyor with the 94th Engineer Bn out of Darmstadt, I surveyed the autobahn from Darmstadt to Mannheim for this express purpose! (1974)
@derdiddo
@derdiddo 3 года назад
Most of them are not being maintained since end of cold war
@imrehundertwasser7094
@imrehundertwasser7094 3 года назад
Mot of them have been removed after 1990 when the road was rebuilt, and only 10 or so remain. Wikipedia has a list, search for Autobahn-Behelfsflugplatz.
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
Classix - Ersatzpiste (1988) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F_cxkF6qSY8.html
@pletiplot
@pletiplot Месяц назад
Motorways in Singapur have those as well with removable giant flowerpots in the middle.
@wiedapp
@wiedapp 3 года назад
I happen to live like 2km away from one of these sets of ramps, it's literally down the street (which was referred to as NATO street, but only by mouth; officially it's called different). As our neighbor is a small boat repair company, the ramp on our side is used as as a boat slip from time to time. Until the british troops left our town in 2001, the ramps were once or twice a year used by them for exercising and maneuvers. These British tanks (Chieftains, I think) were quite a sight to see when I was little, and standing like 20m away when they drove by felt like an earthquake. Since then the Bundeswehr did the same just once, but only because we are so far off the next military base. I would have liked to see some Leopard 2 live, but I had to attend my apprenticeship back then...
@HalfEye79
@HalfEye79 3 года назад
In the city, I was born, there was such a ramp, when I remember correctly. And when I remember really correct, there are several.
@ingovb6155
@ingovb6155 3 года назад
I'm amazed again and again what interesting stories one can discover behind seemingly mundane facts. Kudos!
@oxbech
@oxbech 3 года назад
This is great, I love these mini "destination" videos (this and the one about the autobahn). I'm very much looking forward to the -- triumphant I'm sure -- return of the "full-size" destination videos. They've always been some of my favourite videos on RU-vid, and have been sorely missed during this pandemic, even though I understand perfectly why you aren't making them at the moment :)
@derpapito1391
@derpapito1391 3 года назад
I did not learn anything new about the NATO ramps, but the insight on the history of Grosskrotzenburg was very interesting. 👍👍👍
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 3 года назад
I first understand: Grosskotzenburg - sorry... :-(
@riptidemonzarc3103
@riptidemonzarc3103 3 года назад
"And remember that river, because it will be a big thing later" You might say it is the Main event ;)
@peterpotato1
@peterpotato1 3 года назад
Oof.
@NoZoDE
@NoZoDE Год назад
When you go up the river Main you will see absolutely lots of them in every village along the way. Some have been converted to car ferries but most have stayed untouched since the war ended.
@ZopcsakFeri
@ZopcsakFeri 3 года назад
I absolutely love those Latin street names! Such a nice idea to get people familiarised with / interested in history!
@Exodon2020
@Exodon2020 3 года назад
We have multiple of these at the Kiel-Canal. Also the tunnel underneath the Canal built in my hometown during the 60s had valves in it so it could be flooded to prevent Warsaw Pact troops from using it. Those were apparently removed during the recent renovation works. You can still see where the Pipe Outlets used to be located in the tunnel wall though.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 3 года назад
There had been soldiers/ officers called ,Wallmeister' , in civilian dress and armed with a pistol, they inspected the prepared locations.
@ScherrHrenner
@ScherrHrenner 3 года назад
Großkotzenburg? That name is hilarious.
@dbenzhuser
@dbenzhuser 3 года назад
You missed an "r". They very much insist on that "r".
@almerindaromeira8352
@almerindaromeira8352 3 года назад
Damage done🤮
@ScherrHrenner
@ScherrHrenner 3 года назад
@@dbenzhuser Oh, now that was a Freudian slip on my part. Thank you very much for pointing that out and apologies to the residents!
@AleaumeAnders
@AleaumeAnders 3 года назад
@@dbenzhuser Well, you could always translate it as Great-Crotchsburgh and our anglo-saxon friends would have even more reason to assume that germans really don't have any sense of humor.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 3 года назад
@@AleaumeAnders But presumably the same kind of names in the US show great American humor?
@thomilsvlog4544
@thomilsvlog4544 3 года назад
I remember them using one of these ramps near Speyer when they transferred a Russian "Buran" shuttle to the Technical Museum in Speyer in the 2000s.
@Galenus1234
@Galenus1234 3 года назад
0:11 I love how you omitted the second 'r' when saying the name of the village...
@pega17pl
@pega17pl 3 года назад
Einfach bewunderswert, was +rewboss bereits alles ausgegraben hat! - Grüße, Heinz
@furzkram
@furzkram 3 года назад
You could have explored and mentioned the other side, Hanau Groß-Auheim, I often drove around there on my bike as a teen. The Mainufer used to be a beautiful promenade at least during summer, all the way down to the bridge connecting with Hanau Steinheim. You could drive on through the Hanau port until you reached Schloß Philipsruhe in Hanau's west.
@BillyLeeGoodman
@BillyLeeGoodman 3 года назад
How very interesting the things you find, Andrew!
@Korschtal
@Korschtal 3 года назад
Down in the depths of Swabia we have an old military exercise ground in the hills with a massively reinforced concrete tank track. It's now a curious nature reserve because it can't be used for much else due to unexploded ordinance so you have to stay on the trails, and the track is used to test heavy vehicles like cranes and trucks.
@CologneCarter
@CologneCarter 3 года назад
Explosive Verordnungen? WOW! Ah well, as long as the "Maultaschen" don't go off in my face.
@ihatefish6443
@ihatefish6443 3 года назад
Greetings from großkrotzenburg!
@gerryphilly53
@gerryphilly53 3 года назад
Roman ruins and a museum? I’d love to spend a day here! Not that I’ll have an opportunity do do so for a while. And, at risk of a false cognate, I wonder if the name somehow relates to “Great Crossing Fortress”. Could the Romans have also used the same strategy?
@thenasadude6878
@thenasadude6878 3 года назад
Romans could build bridges over rivers really fast. Their army had incredible manpower and forests were abundant, so many trees were available for construction. Some years ago a full scale demonstration was performed: using only technology and tools available to the Romans, a wooden bridge over a substantial river was successfully deployed and tested. IIRC the whole operation took 1 week and it was done in Germany
@ball_soup
@ball_soup 3 года назад
That's really cool! I'm only about 75 miles from this town so I may have to check it out.
@susanne5803
@susanne5803 3 года назад
This is interesting and entertaining: historical candy 🍬! Thank you!
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 3 года назад
Aschaffenburg ... that's where another of my favorite RU-vidrs lives (works in Frankfurt for DB, makes lots and lots of train videos *with explanations)* - Laufach comes up often, there :-)
@leongurski
@leongurski 2 года назад
In the near of Wyhl there is also a NATO-Rampe at the Rhein.
@danielrose1392
@danielrose1392 3 года назад
Many of them are also preserved for the transportation of oversized loads.
@Markus-zb5zd
@Markus-zb5zd 3 года назад
and for emergency slipping of boats by the local fire services
@Goldfire-tt3dv
@Goldfire-tt3dv 3 года назад
We do have those here on the Rhine, though oddly they are not directly opposite of each other on both shores. Check out Woltershofer Str. and Alsumer Steig in Duisburg. That's not exactly an easy crossing there.
@TTOTheTrueOne
@TTOTheTrueOne 3 года назад
I sometimes run or ride along the other side of the Main. Very suprised to see a video about that place 😅
@eltfell
@eltfell 3 года назад
1:30 ... or very quick executioners.
@Skagzi1la
@Skagzi1la 2 года назад
I wonder how well that'll age in another dozen, or hundred years. "Hopefully abandoning the ramps won't come back on us some day" History has a habit of repeating itself, although not always in the same location, by then we may have floating tanks like star wars so who knows.
@redlovespython
@redlovespython 3 года назад
this is so cool
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions 3 года назад
I am interested in history (including the Cold War), Germany, and Russia, and I find this to be an interesting video! Didn't know about the NATO-ramps!
@Markus-zb5zd
@Markus-zb5zd 3 года назад
I live in Großauheim next to Großkrotzenburg in Großauheim there is another NATO-Rampe for another ponton-bridge the local fire service now uses the ramp to slip in boats for emergencies
@NuclearSavety
@NuclearSavety 3 года назад
Großktotzenburg also has a nice coal power plant ....
@Markus-zb5zd
@Markus-zb5zd 3 года назад
coal, gas and biomass to be precise
@SD_Alias
@SD_Alias 2 года назад
Such Ramps are here and there along the Nord Ostseekanal too. Also these false "Gullis" for destroying them with a load if necessary…
@compphysgeek
@compphysgeek 3 года назад
bei den Straßen mit den alten römischen Namen wäre ich dafür, die wieder umzubenennen
@korthosen949
@korthosen949 3 года назад
Thats my neighboring city lmao nice We have/had a couple of bunkers nearby diretcly at the Main nd those ramps are pretty much everywhere here :) Oh u missed out on the Hexeneiche thats a place where ppl got burned for beeing a witch
@CRYOKnox
@CRYOKnox 3 года назад
As a german i am thankful that place has a second r in its name
@secretlycanine
@secretlycanine 3 года назад
rewboss randomly looking at osm is very relatable
@wigglywuf5982
@wigglywuf5982 3 года назад
Ah, NATO: Planing a biketour to Etzweiler trying to avoid big citys, when coming from the north, i found 41366 Leloh what a nice small village after the forest...
@ranekeisenkralle8265
@ranekeisenkralle8265 3 года назад
Fun fact: the ominous manhole-covers concealing explosives were not the only such trap intended to deny pieces of infrastructure to an invader from the East. Parts of the Autobahn were also mined in a similar fashion (with other parts being designed as emergency-airfields).
@brlbrlbrlbrl
@brlbrlbrlbrl 2 года назад
The same kind of total defence doctrine was in place in at least Finland, Sweden and Switzerland. For example highway bridges were built with charge holes and could be demolished at short notice if the Russians decided to come visit.
@ultimathule3834
@ultimathule3834 3 года назад
Der Moment wenn man mehr über seine Umgebung von einem Engländer lernt als von Freunden und Bekannten 😂
@EggersLenni
@EggersLenni 3 года назад
The Tanks do not need bridges. Most NATO Tank are able to "drive" trough the river. And the hidden explosives were mainly at bridges. Also interesting, most canals in west-germany are going north-south, so that they can use as east-west barrier :-)
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
Nah. Most canals are way older than the cold war. A few happen to run north south, but a lot dont. However, on those running more or less north south, the western side usually was "fortified" with concrete to make it impossible for soviet tanks to climb the bank of the canal ... By now, most of that has been undone in order to re-naturalize those rivers / canals ...
@paulmcfeeters5554
@paulmcfeeters5554 3 года назад
I thought the canals might be north south as their only connection to the sea is in the north so people shipping commodities would be going to the sea ports or coming from the sea ports mainly?
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
@@paulmcfeeters5554 Look at a geographical map of Germany. Rivers like Rhine, Weser and Elbe are flowing from the south to the north, into the sea. Most canals run east-west to link those river systems with each other. There are exceptions like the Nordostseekanal (linking Northsea and Baltic but still running East-West) or the Rhein-Main Donau Kanal), of course, and a few of the bigger ones go somewhat diagonally towards the north east, but the general pattern is as described.
@Colaholiker
@Colaholiker 3 года назад
I am not exactly sure if the ramps with explosive charges relly had the explosive charges in place all the time. Because even in my childhood days when cold war was still a thing, those ramps were not guarded, and leaving military grade explosives in an unguarded place isn't usually the best of ideas. ;-) I would much rather think that they were prepared with cavities in which explosives could be placed easily to destroy the ramps if needed, but since the war fortunately remained cold, the explosives were kept in a much safer place. I have seen similar about what they called "Sprengschacht" (blasting duct) in roads near the former eastern border, which were cavities designed for that purpose. But they were normally empty.
@frankheyder2222
@frankheyder2222 3 года назад
also many bridges had provisions for explosives. especially near the former GDR/FRG border.
@Canleaf08
@Canleaf08 3 года назад
There was something like the Fulda Gap. Near Point Alpha, there was a huge geographical gap where the GDR / red army could've fallen into the country very easily and over the most important airport Frankfurt, which was also a huge logistics hub for the US army, so it might've been very important to design access over rivers as temporary as possible.
@thomashering1482
@thomashering1482 3 года назад
I don't Look for those for years...but this was verry Common. Look for something Like Grey Stripes Most diagonal ... That are flat Metals to attach special Explosives...don't know the english name... "Schneidladungen"
@PiscatorLager
@PiscatorLager Год назад
Aaaaand the Cold War's back.
@lillywho
@lillywho 3 года назад
Any chance we might get a video on the current substitute traffic going on in Frankfurt on the tram lines 15 and 17? They're operating the old type P high floor trams there on a few slots. If not, I still recommend you go there just for fun. It's a rare opportunity to see those in action. Only caveat: They switched out the old announcement controller for the latest type, and that means the latest announcements are being played, the ones generated via TTS instead of the classic announcements spoken by Ingrid Metz-Neun. The new ones sound awful if you ask most of the enthusiast community. Aside from that, it's all the completely original trams, now over 40 years old.
@philiplawton
@philiplawton 3 года назад
Sounds rather like you might be the best person to make this video...
@lillywho
@lillywho 3 года назад
@@philiplawton I can't be in Frankfurt though 😅😆
@Canleaf08
@Canleaf08 3 года назад
When I was working in FFM, I noticed the Ebbelwei Express often coming in front of the HBF. Maybe I have seen the substitute traffic once or twice... No idea.
@lillywho
@lillywho 3 года назад
@@Canleaf08 Next to the Hauptbahnhof there's the Betriebshof Gutleut. All of the Ebbelexpress stock are usually stored there when it's not being overhauled. Right now they're using the Depot Eckenheim as a temporary measure as Gutleut is getting new trackwork done.
@holger_p
@holger_p 3 года назад
Is Rewboss a railway nerd ?
@Sk0_pasha
@Sk0_pasha 3 года назад
you should do a history video about the sudatenlamd
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
I'm surprised they haven't put a ferry there by now.
@Markus-zb5zd
@Markus-zb5zd 3 года назад
there are bridges along the Main
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
Großkrotzenburg, not to be confused with Großkotzenburg, which is a whole different thing.
@optimistischerjunge9926
@optimistischerjunge9926 3 года назад
After living 25 years in germany, you can tell us whos dishes are better? German or Uk? I was never been in the UK and i think it never happens but i try to imagine how it could be if i were in the UK and want to ear something "British", the only thing i've eat all the day were fish and chips but whitout fish. What you prefer? German kitchen with Schnitzel, Klöße(no plan how it named in englisch) or UK kitchen with mint dishes.
@julkip
@julkip 3 года назад
And now for the real question. What were you researching in the first place, when you stumbled over this?
@resinks2269
@resinks2269 3 года назад
1:34; when the prison was used in medieval times, until the 18th century, it is no wonder, the prison is so tiny. In medieval times (and some of the early modern age) prisons were mostly used as short time solutions. The people would go there if they were harmfull to others (in the like of drunkenness). While Most of the time penalties were a fine, to replenish the relationship between the person who did a crime and that which was harmed by the crime. Prison penalties were rare would be given to nobles or in some cases city people. (executions were also very rare btw.) (the next part is in german, for Iam unable to translate a few words into english, it is based on my notes from University where I study History) Der kleinräumige lebensstil im mittelalter würde bedeuten, dass die Bevölkerung sich selbst bestrafte, sollte sie einen Verbrecher Hinrichten, zugleich war es einfach nicht Sinnvoll, die Arbeitskraft eines Verbrechers, mit einer Gefängnisstrafe einzuschränken und ihn zugleich versorgen zu müssen. An dieser Stelle kamen dann Wehrgelder, wie sie zum beispiel im Hochmittelalterlichen Sachsenspiegel festgehalten sind zur Stelle.
@geogecko137
@geogecko137 3 года назад
Your pronunciation is perfect! And I love curious people discovering the most unusual things. Thank you for visiting Hesse ;) And yeah Großkrotzenburg is quite underwhelming and the town's name is even unappealing lol.
@Macintoshiba
@Macintoshiba 3 года назад
Großkotzenburg.....wie kommt man auf so einen Namen!
@koppadasao
@koppadasao 3 года назад
What an aweful place Great Vomit Castle must be...
@ron9320
@ron9320 3 года назад
This is Grosskrotzenburg with an „1“, not Grosskotzenburg🤮! So improve your translation skills. 😂
@koppadasao
@koppadasao 3 года назад
@@ron9320 Better tell that to Google. I write “krotzen” and Google replies “vomit”
@ron9320
@ron9320 3 года назад
@@koppadasao 🥴👍
@theuncalledfor
@theuncalledfor 3 года назад
I thought those ramps were built to lower boats into the water/raise boats out of the water.
@FermatWiles
@FermatWiles 3 года назад
Have you ever been to Langenselbold?
@uncinarynin
@uncinarynin 3 года назад
Do the military forces have storage halls somewhere with elements for pontoon bridges to be built quickly?
@Korschtal
@Korschtal 3 года назад
See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Amphibious_Rig
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
@@Korschtal ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z3SCycWcE2E.html
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
French equivalent ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D4VXcBPs32Q.html Both systems can be used as a bridge or as a ferry.
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 года назад
Besides that, there are Tactical Floating Bridges ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IUhuADS6wQ8.html and of course traditional pontoon bridges.
@colko64
@colko64 3 года назад
They had. My hometown had a large french garrison, one of the regiments were engineers/pioniers with amphibous vehicles capable to serve as ferries across the Rhine, which was only a few km away. I witnessed some exercises in my youth. The Bundeswehr also had some materials for river crossings in a depot nearby. The French Army left in the mid 90s, the BW-Depot was abandon shortly after that. What remains were the Nato-ramps, I can remember 6 of them near my hometown. They're still intact and are used for letting/getting leisure boats to/from water.
@solemndivinity8235
@solemndivinity8235 3 года назад
NATO Street (NATO Strasse) is not labeled on the Google Maps 😶
@newyorkhardcore3353
@newyorkhardcore3353 3 месяца назад
probley the river bridge the army trained on
@sirhonkalot
@sirhonkalot 3 года назад
Great-vomit-castel...
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 3 года назад
:-)
@johncrwarner
@johncrwarner 3 года назад
"open between 14:00 and 17:00 on the second Sunday of each month" is there anything more German than this It is precise it is prescriptive and it is useless if you arrive not on 2nd Sunday of the month
@rewboss
@rewboss 3 года назад
It's a museum in a small village that never gets any tourists, run by unpaid volunteers. But you can book in advance a visit at any other time.
@johncrwarner
@johncrwarner 3 года назад
@@rewboss Here in Bielefeld one of our best museums is a volunteer museum Museum Wäschefabrik which has a similar opening schedule which is a great pity as I have never managed to take any visitors round and only managed one trip in fourteen years LOL
@holger_p
@holger_p 3 года назад
Next chapter: Natodraht.
@hansberger4939
@hansberger4939 2 года назад
GroßKrotzenburg? who wants to live there?
@murti1565
@murti1565 3 года назад
I really enjoy your videos, but I think 10 min videos would be a better format.
@Taladar2003
@Taladar2003 3 года назад
I assume these could be used with something like the M3 ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z3SCycWcE2E.html )
@pocketdynamo5787
@pocketdynamo5787 3 года назад
Has anyone actually ever send a postcard to rewboss? :)
@rewboss
@rewboss 3 года назад
Yes, loads. A few of the postcards are on the wall.
@imrehundertwasser7094
@imrehundertwasser7094 3 года назад
There's a number of videos titled "Fan mail" featuring those postcards. The latest seems to be from May 2019.
@pocketdynamo5787
@pocketdynamo5787 3 года назад
@@rewboss I've just recently discovered your channel, and I quite enjoy your take on the matters. And I've never seen a RU-vidr asking for postcards, that's quite unique! Lovely!
@DasIllu
@DasIllu 3 года назад
I dare anyone to dive deeper into the meanings of the name Großkotzenburg. Spoiler alert: you'll laugh both your but cheeks off :)=
@sizanogreen9900
@sizanogreen9900 3 года назад
ganz schön großkotzig dieser ort..
@ron9320
@ron9320 3 года назад
GrosskRotzig
@luizfigobr
@luizfigobr 3 года назад
If you want peace prepare for war He who forgets his past...
@kurzackd
@kurzackd 3 года назад
i can't get over how he says gORs instead of gROs.... ~_~
@secretlycanine
@secretlycanine 3 года назад
rewboss randomly looking at osm is very relatable
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