Forza Motorsport (2023) vs Gran Turismo 7 - Nordschleife Night Comparison (Mercedes-AMG GT3) 

Nurburgring Nordschleife in GT6 and 7 > FM8.

bro is flexing

Don't forget about the moon shining

What's crazy is GT7 headlights use more than one source, you can see this when the car bounces around or approached different level parts of the track around 6:40 on up, you can see the light intensity change when low beam and high beam converge, really evident on steep grade. PD really went in with lighting, if they had more power they'd have really went nuts. Look at the moonlight gently illuminating the skybox, Forza is invisible for some strange reason. I've never seen a pitch black sky, even in moonless nights due to our atmosphere that's impossible to see happen.

Yea, the lighting cone is definitely a thousand times more detailed@@evilformerlys4704

​@@KikuraKunmoon over the castle

I also noticed that some of the track signage - the white rectangles that look the same size as speed limit signs (I know they’re not.. lol), small orange squares, etc - on the GT7 side go dark when the headlights don’t shine on them. I mean, it’s obvious that they should go dark, but the effect is less evident on the Forza side. I think I understand Forza’s intent for lighting up the whole track, making it seem like a special sanctioned event - but I like the extra fear that GT7’s unlit track gives me.

Which is not realistic, there is lights there.

Wait but Nurburgring doesn’t have lights bro

@@user-liotan0120I agree but in FM8 we couldn’t expect much. They literally recycled tracks from the ground and somehow make them worse.

​@@M24OFGUNeven its somehow way worse than Nordschleife from Gran Turismo 4 and NFS SHIFT 2 UNLEASHED.

​@@user-liotan0120Nurburgring has lights but only on the GP circuits.

forza's is heresy

Amen god is good lol

Is that a good thing cause biblically accurate angels looks scary

@@runescaper1333 just like nurburgring at night during the rain

No

@@martosraynierideljesus7454 nurburgring dosen’t have lights in reallife you should look it up,

@@martosraynierideljesus7454 explain

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8vaNVk5K4Z0.htmlsi=b4A2g2c_ZYujF3Iu

Just wanted to write almost the same. That Forza just adds lights where there are none.

Forza looks better, from the environment, atmosphere, motion and sense of speed. Gt has a more realistic lighting approach but it’s overall less compelling and less lively.

And that Forza sound sounds like Gran Turismo sound lmao

​​@@michaelnight9162to each of their own really as it's a matter of opinion

@@michaelnight9162 the complete opposite lol. the only thing more "realistic" about forza is the lesser use of saturation but the washed out colors are dogshit during anything but night time. can't you see how far apart the headlight simulation is between the two?? you need glasses my man

@@michaelnight9162 very true, car graphs do look bad though, the rest to me looks more realistic. Also too much headshaking on GT7 (sure it can be reduced).

Forza usa ray tracing, aunque te duela su iluminacion es mucho más realista que GT

Yup. It's that way by design because in their minds, it'll be more accessible.

@@JeldesTVForza doesn’t use rt global illumination, and it _barely_ uses rt reflections. It’s just bad lighting/colouring and would look especially bad on an oled display

It's even worse when you realize that even Forza Horizon 3 from 2016 actually rendered night time as dark as possible. Yikes

Do you make the same complaint for GT7 during the day when the colors are extremely too bright and over saturated with way too much reflection from the sun?

Forza has yellow headlights ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QDzafdWFNvw.htmlsi=5IyfHOsv-ESkPPuG&t=10

@@MotoGamesTV Oh! what colour was on the GT7 version? Forza just looks too bright, GT7 looks more natural and realistic imo, and in VR it's truly next level imo.

Also yellow

@@MotoGamesTVForza pathetic, yellow lights glow white....

Most people are saying it's because the transam cars don't have headlights at night so it would be virtually impossible for them to race. And forza has a decent amount of them.

What lighting? 😂😂😂 Its all darker, which surely helps to hide GT7 horrendous trees

go to an eye doctor gt7 seems terrible

@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jeEric Yui posted a video comparing the GT SPORT and real life at the Nürburgring at night, but the real Nürburgring, like the GT, looks very dark because there are almost no exterior lights on the track, and it is not as spectacular as the Forza. Nürburgring 24h Reality Check | Gran Turismo Sport ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W6Rx4Hjf1gY.htmlsi=SglTBdgSilPqf-iC

On god GT7 visuals are a huge improvement compared to playing GT5 and GT6 on a PS3 back in the day. Especially on an OLED TV GT7 is eye candy.@@mercuryfulmina

​@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je Nurburgring en la vida real no tiene Luces, ¿De qué hablas? Justamente es lo que hace más realista a GT7 en este caso

The banking is more noticeable on GT7 compared to Forza.

If FM23 incorporates path tracing in the future, it would be an epic upgrade But I think it's unlikely to happen 🤣

FM23's Ray Tracing also applies to tracks, ambient occlusion and global illumination, it's not just in cars

@@Botinha According to FM website it's ray traced car and track mirror reflections with ray traced ambient occlusion

@@blm7929 and global illumination

Seguramente sos corredor profesional y pasas horas corriendo de noche en esa pista

The game is made so that most people feel comfortable, if not there is no point in having it in Game Pass

"Sim fans", Well this game is for other public destination and looks better than "realistic" and flat tracks.

c'est exactement ça... j'espère gt7 sortira sur pc

​@@danipaino8370my man, it's not that hard to watch onboard footage for the 24h of Nurburgring.

GT7 allows those cars its just that they are almost impossible to drive

I find it so debitating to try and transcribe a real circuit and modify it to make things that don't exist... If you want to drive an F1 car on the Nurb, then do it during the day, rather than modifying the circuit so that it no longer corresponds to reality when 95% of the other cars have headlights.

I could, but what is the percentage of people who are watching YT videos in HDR and they would notice this "additional graphical element"?

@@MotoGamesTVsmartphones largely support HDR these days. People don’t even need to do anything extra to see HDR content on RU-vid from a phone.

HDR would make a huge difference, especially in GT7 with the car lights

The Nurburgring curbs have been the same since fm6 and 7 tho? How is that built from the ground up?

@@Wayanman28th They only use laser scanning for the tracks; the graphics are not constructed from scratch.

Much better than the vaccum sounds in GT7 imo.

Technically, it's built from the ground up, FM7 sounded way more aggressive (and arguably better imo).

lol. Shat, from the arse down. This video makes me want a PS. If I were an FM dev this video would make me cringe a little bit.

FM7 wasn't great, bjt I would take that over FM23 for sure

"again" .. I think you judge a """""Racing Game"""" only by """"RU-vid"""". I think you have never diriven in FM.

What the fuck would that accomplish@@DrTrizio

Both good games on there own way Both shit launch….. sooooo controller psysics and chase cam are the best in Forza. While details in GT are way better like the rims in GT7 are just perfect and in Forza the cars are getting dirty. Both trade blows both good games on there own.

GT7 loses. Again. Don't lie to yourself

@@DrTrizio I got it on game pass to try it out before buying and I tried to like it for at least 20-30 hours but found it very shallow and just a massive disappointment... I was wanting to spend hundreds of hours on it...

Also want to know, that you can't always see. GT7 feels very planted and predictable with a GT3 car, almost as if every race car has a 2tonne McMurtry suction fan beneath it, is that accurate? And yes I know about downforce, just not sure if its accurate.

That response won't help you since you have to try it yourself to figure out if you like it or not. I never understand these questions, which are literally just someone else giving you their feelings on something. You don't know them, so how would their input help you in the least?

For a long time I always felt Forza physics shined while in playing on a controller but sucked when using a wheel. With gt I always felt sucked on a controller but feels really good when using a wheel. The latest Forza has closed the wheel gap with a slight edge still belonging to Gt. Forza still feels infinitely better on a controller. In Gt I feels grip has an on and off button. One minute it’s all good and suddenly it’s gone. When I lose grip I rarely feel like I could have done anything to save it. Every car feels like it’s on rails with excessively stiff springs. In Forza I feel like I can make appropriate adjustments to regain lost grip. There is more of a middle ground between having grip and losing it completely. Cars in general are easier to drive in Forza but also have a more arcade feel to them. Both games have amazing physics and I honestly couldn’t say who doing it better at this point. One game is easier to pick up and play and I’m not sure if realism is factor or not.

I feel that forza physics are unrealistically unpredictable, like if you brake 2 meters late for a turn, you lost control of your car, meanwhile in gt7 you can still correct an error like that

@@ImSantiago8949 I’ve played the new game to the point of my driver level resetting after hitting 999 and have not noticed the issues you’re describing regarding its physics. Are you using stock tunes? They are atrociously off to the point of some cars being un drivable. Stock values are the only thing i could imagine giving you this much grief. This is without a doubt the best physics T10 has produced

I think they mean the headlights.

Ambient lighting inside the car. Gt7 sucks all day all night. ​@@deathtrooper2048

FM best!😂

And that's exactly how it goes IRL.

It's a light source after all. You can also see those bumps on the road, and then there's a glare on the bridge's sign as you approach downhill into the last couple of corners. Racing at night is a thrilling experience, plus the Green Hell at that being the most atrocious track even now in long decades.

also the rpm led's are wrong in the forza one

Actually Forza is pretty close because the real thing runs the SLS GT3 engine not a turbo AMG engine

😂😂

Not going to sit here and pretend that its perfect but The AMG GT GT3 that is being used does not sound that far off from any American Muscle car in real life. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HBaEm2ENBqg.html

It's got a cross plane v8 so of course it sounds like a muscle car

Forza too bright. Because there is no such light in the real circuit, GT has nailed it.

Sounds slightly better?

​@@LayzeeGiantI play GT7 and the sound for GT3 cars isn't really that amazing. If you want an amazing sounding AMG GT3 sound, ACC is by far the best. Sure, FM8 isn't particularly realistic, but it sounds more visceral, like a 6.2L V8 should. GT7 has a more realistic sound but it's muffled and has that synthetic drone as a result of the AES system they've been using since GT6.

@@AKK5I not true

So gt7 is not a game huh? 😂😂😂