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Fox Factory 32 vs Suntour Aion 35 |Fast vs Fun S1E1|

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Комментарии : 48

@betterthannotgoodmtb Год назад

Interesting comparison thanks for the vid. To make the Aion come alive change the negative coil spring ($10 direct from Suntour) and add a few volume spacers. Instantly changes the feel of the fork. It's a really solid piece of kit. Oh, and I've never had a problem with mine losing air. Very reliable.

@tillman5529 Год назад

Allright! At first I was sad because of no tinker tuesdays anymore. BUT you convinced me. I see the potential in Fast vs Fun. Great first episode IMO. Keep going! Greatings from someone who won‘t unsubscribe …even in case of bmx content.

@losSoCalMTB Год назад

You could race xc pretty well on either. A lot of people race cheap fun bikes at xc mtb and its a couple hour time commitment for most local events as opposed to an expensive, all day slog for gravel events.

@qualm43 Год назад

I love my FOX 36. I do the oil changes myself, and it has never given me any issues. Except I DID have a fit4 damper explode into a million pieces inside of it once.... But whatever.

@michaeloverfield7198 Год назад

🤩 The production value!! Wow this was a fun and super interesting video to watch!

@baileydelelys2890 Год назад

Honestly I think that the redemption aspect of the video could prove to be a good addition to the series. I really enjoyed watching a segment of the video where you went back in and revamped the formula to see if it really was the original key equipment (fork) that caused for the losing run or if it was a combination of other factors as well. I feel that most people who compare do so apples to apples without looking into the fit and adaptions you can make to really make that new set up right

@CL-dh2mf Год назад

I came for the fun and wasnt disappointed.😂😂😂 Great video, super editing and still in the unique Spindatt style.😊

@Biking_with_Akiva Год назад

Yes!!!!! Fantastic first episode 🔥💯 THAT conclusion got to say... did not see that coming, looking forward to the next episode 🤙🏾

@uldi1s Год назад

Rebuilding your fork just because it lost air... 🤔 I think someone is happy saying just "sure! bring it here, I need some money!" I have an Aion 35 as well. In 2 years it hasn't lost a PSI in air pressure. And I've taken apart my forks just to change the travel and check things. Nothing to do. Every time they're just as new. They weren't designed around an oil bath, so there's none of this normal "maintenance" others need. Everything is cartridge, everything is sealed. If you have an air leak it's just the Schrader valve internals or an O ring. I assumes you have played around with the three air tokens inside? When you take off the cap that's all there is. Suggest you save nome unnecessary expense and open the top of the left leg yourself?

@wheels.3239 Год назад

Thankyou..Finally...Best topic on MTB on the Internet. How much does fun cost. Love This Channel!!!

@mwillemsen55 Год назад

One episode in and already keen for the next one! So cool that the Norton can be built differently to suit someone's style or budget. Keep it up spinney!! 🤘

@ref498 Год назад

I have a beater 26' hard tail that I use for when my full sus is in the shop or for a loaner bike. It has a Fox Float RL 32mm stanchions and the difference is huge. I am on mostly gravity trails and the front breaks are too much for the fork. If I am using my front to slow down on pavement I can watch the fork flex and tuck under the bike and then spring back. It makes a huge difference in the confidence you have taking longer rock rolls or keeping speed into corners. IMO 35/36mm stanchions is the sweet spot for anything under 160/170 travel. Great series btw, looking forward to more.

@EriebyCycle Год назад

Well the whole dang thing was fun for me. Thank you.

@ethanvaill Год назад

I definitely had flex issues with the Fox 34 on my trail bike. But I am a big guy. 265 lbs/120 kg. I swapped it out for a Fox 36 and noticed a huge difference.

@EverythingsBeenDone Год назад

I can DIG IT!!

@jjaeks5518 Год назад

Recently purchased an Ohlins rxf 36 coil because it was on sale and I have zero idea what I am doing with adjustments.. but it does feel good lol

@clarkmodesitt6778 Год назад

Awesome video. I really appreciate your relatable builds and I’m really thankful for giving a lot of us normies some second hand data. My current bike has a Manitou Markhor with 30mm stanchions, but I’ve never noticed much “flex”, maybe because this is my first bike and I don’t really know what I’m feeling for. But I think I’ll definitely be looking for a fork with some beefier stanchions on my next bike.

@baileydelelys2890 Год назад

Definitely a great first upgrade for a budget bike. They are a solid choice for their price point. I fell out of love with mine because I got used to fox dampers. It lasted me 4 years until I needed something a bit more stiff that I could also control the rebound of. I definitely found that 30mm stantions are pretty small.

@baileydelelys2890 Год назад

Also going from a 9mm qr to a 15mm thrule axle makes the front of the bike wayyyyy more solid

@clarkmodesitt6778 Год назад

@@baileydelelys2890 So the reason that I actually got the Markhor was because it was the only unicorn fork that was available with a straight steerer and also thru axle, because this bike came with a thru axle front hub. So I've at least got that going for me lol.

@baileydelelys2890 Год назад

That is the exact way that I describe mine situation! thank you! I’m glad that someone else knows the struggle! My bikes a 2012 which was when 29ers were becoming mainstream but they decided to keep the older standard for head tube! It’s a stupid hybrid spec you need in order to maintain the geometry. Mine is 29” wheel, freaking stupid “straight steerer”, 100mm travel, originally 9mm which I swapped wheel set to 15mm thru axle. It’s a crazy standard. The forks on the used market that do fit that criteria are swooped up as soon as they hit the market. I got tired of waiting to find my unicorn in Fox so I “compromised”. I got a cane creek headset adapter so that I could run a tapered steerer. The fork I compromised with was a 2019 fox float 36 which is complete overkill. Reason I bought it was I got a good deal on it used and that I know that the damper is a good one that can be serviced still. I haven’t been able to throw it on just yet because I still have to buy a 100mm airshaft, wiper seals, and a booster space adapter. All together I think that I’ll be under $400 invested?

@danielcox9850 Год назад

Yeah the stem dude...was thinking bout that.

@brooksbanister Год назад

Rough start to the series. Hope it won't be too expensive. Looking forward to more gratuitous comparisons!

@petedog9581 Год назад

I just swapped my Fox 34 for a RS Pike w the 35mm stanchions. I definitely feels stiffer and tracks through chunk with more composure.

@kevinlane8011 10 месяцев назад

I feel like Marzocchi bombers should be mentioned here. Z1 are 36mm stanchion and z2 are 34 I think? Any way great value, light enough, way simple and preform great.

@TryboBike Год назад

Longer and lower front will put your weight radically more forward and in order to compensate for this on gnar downhill you;'d need to run more slow compression and possibly more air pressure. That will, of course, kill small bump sensitivity and cause harsher ride.

@rider65 Год назад

Only if you don't adopt your body position. Load position and load transfer are dependent upon body position as well as braking forces. Riding Annex e-bike on a downhill requires a change in body position and riding Style. Good Riders understand adaptation

@Grrg Год назад

I already had a fast bike, so I decided to run my Norton fun style. I tried to get the closeout ohlns coil fork but couldnt get the cash in time so I ended up getting a Helm mk2 instead and it is definitely the bike I am grabbing for. I decided to run it in the short 130 setting for now but am thinking I will try bumping up the travel some time. I need to get some brakes though, I am thinking of formula cura brakes but not sure if I need the 4 piston or not.

@YoungDoug13 Год назад

I really want to buy the Norton frame and build it up as a 27.5 beefy tire, party bike. I've got almost everything to put on it. Stuff just laying around, except wheels. It's been a pain to source the wheels I want and not spend a kagbillionhundred dollars on them. Ibis wheels seem to be the closest thing to reasonable I can find. Then it hit me that my extra (Rockshox Yari) fork is for a 29er. So I'm intrigued at the "long fork" video idea.

@mellissanash7517 Год назад

Might be the right time to find a Rockshox 35 or possible Revelation air variant off one of the marketplaces for $300 or less(been seeing some locally in solid shape).

@rider65 Год назад

Tell you what, 1 of the best fork value for the money is the Marzocchi Z1. It uses a fox 36 internal cartridge. When it's on sale it's a bargain

@parisrose5766 Год назад

Your right. Fast + Fun = Mullet. It's the obvious progression. Regression?

@janeblogs324 Год назад

7:53 is the fork trail/offset the same for both forks? Sounds like your issue

@Casualfulltime Год назад

Puncture kit? 😁 Seriously though cushcore is a game changer.

@marcgallant5270 Год назад

Trade in/up that SR Suntour, seems like you have a lemon. SR Suntour has a great trade up program.

@ricosuavez_uk Год назад

The longer & lower rise stem will also weight the front wheel more than the shorter & higher rise stem… due to load transfer & to body position obviously… (New DMR stem looks great also!) >>> 👍🏽😎

@rider65 Год назад

It will absolutely not load the front wheel anymore. How is it going to load the front less or more depending on the bars or the stem? Did your body weight change during the ride? Are you talking about body position? Load transfer does not change no matter what bars and stem you have on your bike. Now if you're refering to body position yes of course that will affect load transfer. Physics can be confusing a good place to start in Physics for Dummies excellent book from Wiley publishing 👍

@ricosuavez_uk Год назад

@@rider65You also described exactly what I was talking about… 👍🏽

@renzo1540 Год назад

Rip rim. Please start riding with some spares ❤

@TheGameOfBIKE Год назад

I'm just gonna say: fox 34 step cast

@zacharyord8618 Год назад

No shiiiiiiit I'm looking at suntour as well buuuuut rockshox is still the best lol

@cegalleta 9 месяцев назад

it's pointless to compare a trail fork with an xc fork. Why don't you just buy the fox 34 or 36 if you have the money? Besides that, the Aion should feel pretty darn good if you buy a nicely specd one, not sure whether it was an honest review or it was just the classic 'it's suntour so it must be shit' thing. 0/10 low effort video

@nickpoole9643 Год назад

First. Weoo. #throwitaround

@markifi Год назад

that was idiotic riding with the flat and wrecking your rim. completely senseless. it's a bit perplexing because you don't seem like the more money than sense kind of guy. ah well, hindsight

@jonamcc Год назад

i can sort of understand the desire to do so, part of his livelihood is making these videos and to have driven so far out there and up to the top of the trail, only to have to walk out with nothing would be really frustrating. tho I simply would have thrown in a tube tho… or a dynaplug. i definitely would have yelled a lot. but i wouldn’t ride a flat tire (without an insert?!)

@rider65 Год назад

🤔 Compression damping is how much a fork could compress through its potential travel. So when you say when you adjust the compression dial and you don't notice any difference either the compression circuit is inoperable or your sag is not properly set. The compression fully open wood have a softer feel and the fork stanchions will travel as much as you have set the preload to. With the compression fully closed before should feel stiffer and not 'travel' very much. Perhaps revisit your sag settings. 👍

@ricosuavez_uk Год назад

Interesting as I have 2 MTB bikes, both 27.5, both Giants, A Talon 1 2019 & A Fathom 2 2019… long story short… this has been a topic for me for a while now. I’d like to also build up a 700c / 29r (2.2-2.25) for the fast lightweight bike and the other a more burlier 650b / 27.5 2.4-2.6 😎 🚵🏽‍♂️🚵🏽