France V.s. U.S.A.: Blind Tasting Two Dubonnet Versions

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France or Kentucky: The Tale of Two Dubonnet Bottles Blind taste test Cocktails After Dark
Welcome back to Cocktails After Dark! Join us as we dive into a fascinating exploration of global trade, focusing on the iconic Dubonnet. In this blind taste test, we compare the American and French versions of Dubonnet, uncovering subtle but significant differences in aroma, flavour, and mouthfeel. From the liquor store anecdotes to our candid impressions, this episode promises an insightful journey into the world of spirits. Stay tuned as we plan to experiment with crafting cocktails using both versions throughout the year, revealing how they interact with different mixers. Whether you're a seasoned enthusiast or a curious novice, there's something for everyone in this spirited adventure. Cheers to discovering the diverse flavors that span the globe!
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0:00 Welcome
0:10 Same name, different liquid
0:50 Dubonnet not the same everywhere
1:49 Uncork and pour
2:55 Julie arrives to mix up the glasses
3:24 Buying Dubonnet in Arkansas
3:59 Blind tasting begins
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@GlenAndFriendsCooking 3 месяца назад

I will once again be flying in the Give Hope Wings fundraiser this year! Our June of 2024 flight will see us stop in many communities in Eastern Canada to raise awareness for this worthy cause. Last year 2023 we raised over $27,000 towards helping our neighbours - we made a positive difference in the lives of many. Here's the link to the 2024 fundraiser page: support.hopeair.ca/ghw2024/glens-hangar To learn more about the Hope Air Charity: hopeair.ca/

@francescaknightYT 3 месяца назад

I think you should try Queen Elizabeth II’s favourite drink of a cocktail of two parts Dubonnet to one part gin, garnished with lemon 😊 🇬🇧

@jamespurchase4035 3 месяца назад

Chaps, a "post dinner aperitif" is usually called a digestif (to "aid your digestion"). The aperitif comes 1st, before the meal, to whet your appetite and jolly-up your guests 😀 Bon appetit!

@justincronkright5025 3 месяца назад

Could it be an Aperitif before dessert, so technically it's both then? I personally & know family that historically had desert first, so interesting to make it both a digestif & aperitif at the same time.

@marieokamoto5803 2 месяца назад

I think I'll have a Dubonnet now I've watched this (the French one).

@jamespurchase4035 2 месяца назад

@@justincronkright5025 I'm a big believer of drinking whatever pleases you, whenever suits you, no matter what the purists/experts say. Life is for living and enjoying after all! But if you ask a frenchman when "l'heure de l'apéro" is (apero = apéritif), he'll tell you it is at 5pm. So akin to afterwork drinks / happy-hour, essentially before your evening meal. What you suggest, between courses, a frenchman from Normandy would call a "trou normand" (Normandy hole). A glass of Calvados or other eau-de-vie to restore the apetite anew just before desert by helping the digestion of what came before (so a digestif essentially). Anyway...what's in a name!? Eat, drink and be merry...

@justincronkright5025 2 месяца назад

@@jamespurchase4035 I'm a philosopher. I love arguing & I actually think it's a worthwhile pursuit for those who enjoy it, are good at it & keep it as rooted in logic as possible. By this I mean I will largely always accept other people's agency (personal authority to choose what to drink & when). I just like the concept of having a *Formal Discussion* (which involves arguments a lot of the time) on topics to lay a foundation for 'Properly Perceiving/Understanding' said topic. When arguing you should think about all perspectives possible so that you can either change your position. Better defend it from another's position. Or just be a general '#¤"& Disturber' such as myself so that you can better get others to think critically on the topic (That's Essentially the Gadfly Story from Socrates [Plato] in Ancient Greece). Because of all of this I like finding ridiculous/outside answers or routes of understanding that don't conform to any general consensus & leave the greatest space available for self-choice whilst still being as truthful to a situation as possible.

@lesliemoiseauthor 3 месяца назад

I love these blind taste tests. "We're not experts.". A little later: "It looks like a port."❤

@MrChristopherMolloy 3 месяца назад

They're not blind, Glenn clearly knew that the cloudier version was from France 🇫🇷

@sweetlou5902 3 месяца назад

I love that after the 1st sip the cups were mixed up by Jules and you both ended up with the original 1st cups for the second taste

@kellybryson7754 3 месяца назад

I thought so!

@justincronkright5025 3 месяца назад

First thing I noticed too... thought, 2 wrongs hopefully to make a right coming up? :)

@susanward398 3 месяца назад

You two have given me a ray of hope! For many years, my favorite aperitif was Dubonnet on the rocks with a lemon twist. Then it became hard to find Dubonnet, so I switched to gin and tonics. A year or so ago, I bought a bottle here in the U.S. and was shocked to discover that it was not as good as it had been. How could they downgrade a drink ingredient favored by the late Queen?! Now I see that they did not; they only downgraded it for the American consumer. Time to empty the trunk of my car and book a trip to Canada!

@BrianWright70 3 месяца назад

I used to love An American in Paris, Southern Comfort with Dubonnet, lemonade and ice in my teens.

@AW-fb8hr 3 месяца назад

You were drinking that in your teens!! I was drinking Zima 😂

@BrianWright70 3 месяца назад

@@AW-fb8hr Well I am Scottish, I was brought up around the pub/hotel trade and started going to the pub at 14. Being tall and comfortable around older folk and being in pubs helped.

@jdub1371 3 месяца назад

I can't hear "Dubonnet" without hearing Pia Zadora sing "Loooooove... is made for lingering" from that old 70s Dubonnet TV commercial. That jingle is lodged permanently in my brain.

@Kangamoos 3 месяца назад

I'm surprised but that explains so much! I recently bought some in the USA and was startled. I thought perhaps I misremembered how it tastes.

@GracieValenti1 3 месяца назад

Can I vote for you as the cutest couple on the internet? Loved the vid!

@andrelemoine1815 3 месяца назад

My favourite was St Raphael which is similar to Dubonnet. Since I can no longer find it, Dubonnet has become my favourite appéritif, a pre-supper drink, on ice, with hors d'oeuvres.

@hori166 3 месяца назад

The term that Glen was seaching for to describe combining a spirit with soda or other mixer (juice) is a "highball".

@vanderfleet-martin 3 месяца назад

I bought a bottle of (American) Dubbinnet when the Queen died and have since replaced vermouth with it in cocktails. Specifically Negronis.

@robertfallows1054 3 месяца назад

My mother drank this when we lived in Canada in the 60s but I don’t know if she drank it when we moved to US in the 70s. I had no idea they were different. I have never had it myself but I think your idea of comparing them is good

@SockimusPrime 3 месяца назад

I’ve been taking a bartending course recently, and one of the cocktails was a Bourbon dandy, which was my first exposure to dubonnet. Definitely curious to see it used in future videos. With a name like “Bourbon Dandy”, I almost wonder if it was intended to be made with the Kentucky Dubonnet. That said, I found it was similar to a manhattan while being fussier in the ingredients, to the point where I’d rather just have the manhattan.

@kurtandkarenaroodt4871 3 месяца назад

This was really fun, Thank you

@Kitsambler 3 месяца назад

"Dubonnet on the rocks with a twist" is a classic old lady's cocktail for lunch. Not too far from a "Queen Mum" which includes some gin.

@janetj471 3 месяца назад

I resent that comment about “old lady’s “ drink I’ve been drinking this for 45 years…. Oh I guess that makes me an old lady😂

@treasuremuch9185 3 месяца назад

I recall a TV ad, maybe mid-70s, with a lady young and glamorous. Might have been with a handsome companion. Dubonnet on the rocks in glasses. Not old lady there. It's a sophisticated image for the product. Although, I'll add, old ladies can also be sophisticated 😉

@stevemonkey6666 3 месяца назад

I would love to know if after a day of making cocktail videos, they stagger home and fall asleep on the couch😅

@paulinemegson8519 3 месяца назад

Good thing home is just across their back yard then 😂

@DrAppalling 3 месяца назад

Glen -- Ever heard of Acerum? It is eau-de-vie made from maple syrup in Quebec. It could be a fun thing for you to explore.

@mkh8076 3 месяца назад

You two are the best. I feel you deserve each other in the best of ways. Please keep doing what you do. ❤

@PhinClio 3 месяца назад

I think "highball" is the word you're looking for, but "spritz" works, too. ("Spritz," I think, involves fizzy water, while "highball" can have any fizzy drink as a mixer.) Also: I love the idea that a cocktail expert needs to have a handlebar mustache!

@kennoldfield5890 3 месяца назад

I picked up a bottle of the french Dubonnet after seeing this video. It is a pleasant drink as is. I think with ice and sparkling water it will be a good summer cooler. I have to say I would prefer sweet (rosso) vermouth, or even campari.

@noelwade 3 месяца назад

Today I learned that Pundits on the Internet blow things out of proportion. Who knew? ;-) Thanks as always for the fun and learning!

@chriswade7470 3 месяца назад

It’s not easy to get in the U.K. I bought 2 bottles before Christmas from Waitrose, who seem to be the only countrywide supermarket who sell it. It was £19.99 per bottle(70 cl) good in Gin, topped up with Tonic water.

@scottjacoby2594 2 месяца назад

I’m glad you got your act together a little bit witch making sure the glasses were on the same side. I was screaming at the screen. “JULIE STOP PICKING UP AND THE GLASSES!” and then again at Glen the same thing. I was nervous Glen was going to drink from the same glass again when he came back from getting his tea. I’m glad he started over again, though. Ultimately as an American, I’m glad the differences are subtle and hard to distinguish. I’d hate that FOMO feeling not knowing how the original is supposed to taste.

@happygardener28 3 месяца назад

I don't drink very often, a couple times a year perhaps, but I can say that frequently wines and beers can be wildly different in taste and drinkability due to being mishandled in transit because of overheating or freezing. I've three local, small wineries near me and six micro breweries and I will buy from them before I buy any other brand.

@szde 3 месяца назад

They should call it Dubonneigh because it always leaves me horse hahaha!!

@cleementine 3 месяца назад

Buh-DUM tish! 😆

@branthoggatt 3 месяца назад

Hey Glen! Saw your video over the malt bread recipe and was wondering if you had worked out any sort of malt pizza dough that you like. Just had some over the weekend at a new restaurant and loved the flavor!

@jamesellsworth9673 3 месяца назад

NO-OHHH! I wanted to believe I was traveling to France.

@annettemoyle6051 3 месяца назад

Very interesting 👌 thanks

@SevenCostanza 3 месяца назад

Never heard of it. Ill give it a try

@--Zenwebgoddess-- 3 месяца назад

I’m excited for the cocktails. I bout a bottle (U.S) after the Queen passed.

@jastew1971 3 месяца назад

My favorite aperitif! ❤️🍷

@cookilumsden 3 месяца назад

Gosh I hope you do the 'Queen Mother' cocktail.

@tkretchman1701 3 месяца назад

I think you were going for spritzer when you were talking about adding sparking water.

@singincowboy 3 месяца назад

I haven't had it, but according to the Heaven Hill marketing, the us version changed dramatically a couple years ago. The new version is made with the original recipe they purchased decades ago when her became the us brand owner. The old version had been lower quality for a while. The French version had also changed. But less, so they are much more similar now!

@buerger23 3 месяца назад

Hey Glen, I wonder if you've ever come across Picon here is Canada. Or even had it before. I got obsessed with it in France drinking Picon biere and have been trying to recreate it for a year.

@naomi-allisonsloane3008 3 месяца назад

My uncle used to ask if I wanted a Dubonnet aperitif by saying Je Dubonnet Tu Dubonnet Nous Dubonnez To which I would respond ah Dubonnet. We would mix it with bitter lemon over ice.

@juancamilopen 3 месяца назад

Oooooo shots fired @Kevinkos 🤣

@nicoleturgeon-courchesne2212 3 месяца назад

I enjoy it on ice with a splash of lemon!! :)

@aesculetum 3 месяца назад

you do all the shooting of your cocktail videos in one day?! i would be so hammered by the end of it, but i don't drink, so i have no built up tolerance

@amyfreedomluvr5277 3 месяца назад

So the liquor store guy was right. :)

@telebubba5527 3 месяца назад

Interesting, although I'm not very likely going to buy it. But it was fun to watch you two do the comparing. BTW here in the Netherlands we can get it as cheap as € 6,00.So that's even half the price.

@lindafletcher1628 3 месяца назад

I have been drinking the French dubonnet on ice with a twist of lemon since the 70s. I drink very little but this is good but the lemon is necessary

@Beehashe 3 месяца назад

Anyone recall Pia Zadora? She was the face of Dubbonet in the 80s

@itcouldbeanyone 3 месяца назад

I don’t mind if you don’t have a serious cocktail show

@AvivaHadas 3 месяца назад

Im surprised it doesn’t have the location branding of champagne - making the Kentucky one in turn be quinine wine!

@det999666 3 месяца назад

👍 Joined in with a Grappa Caffe from Gagliano Italy . Only for the fun of it.

@mr.somebody1493 3 месяца назад

B&B vs. Benedictine and brandy next ?

@dorismehlberg1161 3 месяца назад

Dubonnet on the rocks with a lemon twist has been a favorite apertif for decades. My sister introduced it to me after her business trip to Europe in the70's.

@PeterCCamilleri 3 месяца назад

Which one does Vizinni drink?

@belg4mit 3 месяца назад

ACS Reactions just posted a video on the chemistry of an old-fashioned cocktail preparation technique (milk washing) that you might enjoy.

@jenniferkapoian583 3 месяца назад

I think the term you are looking for is a spritz or spritzer. A white wine spritzer is wine with seltzer/club soda.

@truepeacenik 3 месяца назад

Both labels have their own Chickens!

@patriciamorgan6545 3 месяца назад

Oh, you've got me very curious now. I've got a very old bottle of Dubonnet that belonged to my mother, who passed nearly 20 years ago. The bottle is several years older than that. The label looks somewhat different from the one you recently bought in the US. I wonder where mine was made? I think the label says in France, but I'll have to check the fine print. Who knew they started making it at some point smack dab in the epicenter of Kentucky bourbon country?

@nihil0bstat 3 месяца назад

would you recommend this for a Negroni?

@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma 3 месяца назад

I think I would know the difference between the two, because I'm hypersensitive to the proof level of beverage. So that's why I wondered how would you compare these fortified wines but make their ABV equal? Probably impossible.

@briand2614 3 месяца назад

I’ve never had Dubonnet. I was curious as you were tasting as to whether it was sweet or dry, and if it was sweet was there a difference. It appears as though it is just a fortified and flavoured wine. Then as a wine drinker I would have said the French product came from an aged or oxidized wine, and the Kentucky version came from a tanker load of California Zinfandel. 😉

@monkeymanstones1 3 месяца назад

I want a Ward 8, please. Hard to find a bartender who knows how to make such a common drink.

@redbeard36 3 месяца назад

Spritzer?

@coloringanddoodling9751 3 месяца назад

Never had

@karinbperrott747 3 месяца назад

I used to drink this 50 years ago. Legally. I don’t think I’ve had it since.

@monkeymanstones1 3 месяца назад

I wish I could effectively write in a way communicating what comes across as drunkenness. I'll try... We mericans don drink en the stuff es not abva enuff, ya know whadda mean? Alcohol levels are frequently boosted for sport. It helps to make everything worse. You just want to enjoy the vanilla flavor of a bourbon aged in certain wood species barrels? Prepare to have to endure substantially more ethanol. My country is Hydroxyl nation!

@annaschmidt2 3 месяца назад

When I put fizzy water in a glass of wine, I call it a "spritzer." Maybe that's the word you were thinking of?

@KristineMaitland 2 месяца назад

How many of you Canadians have the theme for the ad running through your head?

@YaketyYakDontTalkBack 3 месяца назад

Dubo, Dubon, Dubonnet!

@napoleonbonaparte1260 3 месяца назад

Hey Glenn can you recreate popeyes fried chicken?

@normasaldivar8645 3 месяца назад

The late queen’s drink I believe.

@joeyhardin1288 3 месяца назад

YEAH KENTUCKY!

@lynnm.wheaton1559 3 месяца назад

Spritzer

@phranerphamily 3 месяца назад

Next please explain Chartreuse and whats going on with it. Also fizzy water and wine in my world is a spritz.

@GlenAndFriendsCooking 3 месяца назад

Spritz - Just could not come up with that word.

@BrianWright70 3 месяца назад

I'd a bottle of green Chartreuse when I was about 15, crazy strong

@quarlow1215 3 месяца назад

Yeah I was going to say spritzer too. I can see it with some fizz be a nice summery drink. I've only had it once sort of. My dad had a bottle on his boat that he didn't care for so I took it home. Occasionally I'd have a shot on ice and when it was gone I don't know if I'd really buy it again. But maybe if my bar list was full.

@PhinClio 3 месяца назад

What's going on with Chartreuse is that the abbott of the monastery that makes it has decided that, with growing demand for it, its production is taking up too much of the monks' time, so they're limiting production. This has led to a worldwide Chartreuse shortage, though I've heard it's still pretty easy to find in Mexico, for the moment at least. There are a number of good green Chartreuse knockoffs that work as substitutes. Here in the US, Fascia Brutto's Centerbe is often recommended (Fascia Brutto is a US-based maker of amaros and liqueurs). I don't know of any subs for yellow Chartreuse, which was always more difficult to find.

@nicksushkevich8660 3 месяца назад

Wait, Julie tastes twice from a same glass, thinking it's different?

@trailduster6bt 2 месяца назад

I for one get all my opinions from some guy with a handlebar mustache!

@MatthiasDuyck 3 месяца назад

Wendy?...

@tjs114 3 месяца назад

All I could find other than the alcohol content is that the US made Dubonnet uses California Cabernet rather than Bordeaux grapes (which explains the alcohol difference) and they removed the corn syrup (present in the French version) while increasing the quinine levels along with adding black currant. Info grabbed from Spirits Review

@flibblesan 3 месяца назад

French Dubonnet does not contain corn syrup - its sweetened with cane sugar. The US version used to be sweetened with corn syrup.

@MrChristopherMolloy 3 месяца назад

Has anyone in the last 60 years actually drank Dubonnet neat or on the rocks?

@MrChristopherMolloy 3 месяца назад

@@brt5273 What are you trying to say?

@jaw2112 3 месяца назад

Anyone in the comments, Are there any other alcoholic products this difference applies to?

@belg4mit 3 месяца назад

Champagne in the U.S need not be from France, because we never ratified the Treaty of Versailles because congress was upset with the president's efforts to launch the League of Nations.

@sampatton146 3 месяца назад

I have heard that the American government rules for Bourbon are not adhered to outside the USA.

@johndaniel6103 3 месяца назад

Have enjoyed Dubonnet for more than fifty years. Use to have the French made stuff in US until there became a licensed US producer with loss of flavor and increased cost. Have to get the real McCoy in Canada or have loyal friends bring it back duty free for less than 10 bucks. Worth the effort. Average price for alcohol fortified US version almost double. A ripoff! The licensee protective agreement works against free choice. The American version simply does not have customer demand outside the US.

@petervanderwaart1138 3 месяца назад

Expensive high alcohol grape juice does sound like a US thing.

@michaelv3340 3 месяца назад

I looked up why it's different, and it's the boring reason that a different company owns the trademark. Just like Budweiser is the original Czech in Europe where the American beer is called 'Bud.'

@intentionaloffside8934 3 месяца назад

DuBonnet and soda over ice for me. A less obnoxious version of Campari and soda.

@timcox9650 3 месяца назад

The test was blind right up until the time the glasses were lifted to the lips. Then, the markings on the bottoms of the glasses were obvious to the other person. Unless a third person put the markings on and was the only one who knew what they meant, the mystery was over.

@GlenAndFriendsCooking 3 месяца назад

Lolz - you assume that two people in their mid to late 50s, who are also 4 cocktails in on the shoot day have good enough eyesight to read the scratches on the bottom of the glass at that distance in a fleeting moment...

@timcox9650 3 месяца назад

@@GlenAndFriendsCooking Good point!

@oledall9331 3 месяца назад

French products have to be made in France 🇫🇷

@GlenAndFriendsCooking 3 месяца назад

And the French product is made in France.

@oledall9331 3 месяца назад

But the US “copy” under same name is not… and should not be able to use the brand name. It’s like a US made BMW or Mercedes Benz cars is far from the german quality as made in Germany cars of same brand.

@nihlify 3 месяца назад

The brand is Pernod Ricard... Not every product name can be protected... @@oledall9331

@belg4mit 3 месяца назад

That's a tautology. Just because a product originates somewhere does not mean something made in the same way somewhere else isn't the same thing. Yes there are protected marks for some things like Stilton, etc. but that's not necessarily a good thing. Why should we have separate names for prosecco, champagne, etc. hen they are fundamentally the same thing? Fizzy wine invented in England?