00:00 "The Beginning of the End of Extraction (Evolutional Slow Down)" 01:36 "The Executive Furies of the Robot Lord of Death" 03:04 "Descent to the Netherworld" 03:33 "...Och Stjärnans Namn Var Malört" 05:27 "Dante's Wild Inferno" 06:26 "I, Galactus" 07:54 "Skeletonization" 08:08 "Sickness and Demoniacal Dreaming" 09:14 "UFOria" 09:51 "Z1- Reticuli" 12:44 "Transmigration of Souls" 14:12 "In Reality All Is Void" 14:41 "Krapp's Last Tape" 15:56 "Through Fear We Are Unconscious" 16:55 "Death at Both Ends" 17:54 "Bouncing in a Bottomless Pit" 19:07 "The Sun Door" 20:39 "Vitamin K Experience (A Homage to The Scientist/John Lilly)" 22:13 "Sensorium Dei" 25:41 "Z2- Reticuli" 28:37 "De Profundis" 29:06 "Existence Out of Joint" 30:19 "On a Crater's Verge" 31:33 "Solarization" 33:22 "The End of the Beginning of Contraction (Involutional Speed Up/Preparation for the Big Crunch)" 34:13 "Tathagata" 37:15 "Missing Time" 48:31 "Ooo Baby Baby" Copy Paste Powa
made man Morgan Ågren on drums From his own fusion project to his own electro project, he did also guest drums for the las Devin Townsend album(along with Samus66 and Anup Sastry) Just to name a few
I bought this at a Best Buy when i was like 14. I had no idea who he was or anything. I just thought the cover looked cool. I had no idea what i was in for..
@@Noone-ew2wk He is. He may not have the harmonic library of Holdsworth but Holdsworth doesnt have the rhythmic library of Thordendahl. You can argue semantics, specifics and technicalities that say otherwise, but at the end of the day they are both true Super-Novas orbiting the same black hole.
Right! They did have him Fredrik and mattias ia eklundh on some Swedish tv channel sponsored by Vic Firth. Check it out if you haven’t seen it. It was just a medley of this album but still awesome even tho I don’t play drums haha.
i would argue that every piece of music sounds this epic on shrooms. Just ask a grateful dead fan. To clarify, my stash is heady as fuck, I pick azurescens like they're chanterelles.
Lucas Veese Come on guys, TVSOR is some of their best work. I mean it took me a year to appreciate it but when it klicks it k(l)icks hard ;) Clockworks, the title track and Ivory Tower are 3 of their most sophisticated songs yet. But yeah this solo record is just beyond everything
Straight up. I always mention when this was released, still blows my damn mind. I was a wee lad when this mastery was unveiled. Sorcerers, all. Pioneering af.
Z2 Reticuli is like a jazz ensemble straight from inter-dimensional hell. Never heard anything like that, but that also goes for the entire record. I’m still absorbing this album and it’s been over 2 years since I’ve been listening to it.
Man, this has legit become one of my favourite albums ever, after also first hearing in about 2 years ago. I’m hooked and can’t stop listening to it lately and I don’t even know how to purchase/ access it other than RU-vid (shrugs)
Yes never gets old. I picked this CD up back in 1999. Monumental milestone for the signature Meshuggah mathematical ingenuity in song structure and riff technique - after this was released they changed their approach to how they structure songs which you can hear on Chaosphere (1998) all the way until their latest - which in turn has had an incredible influence on 99% of metal you hear today. So in short, THANK YOU Frederik Thordendal, your musical contributions have a long lasting impact likely for many more years to come. As Devin Townsend says in his song Planet of the Apes "we all ripoff MESHUGGAH!". 🤘
I truly love the fact that almost every comment is people giving appreciation for this album. No elitists or assholes. Just pure love for this masterpiece!
It's one of the greatest open secrets in music. For us, by us type of community. I was introduced to this piece in 2006. Limewire was a huge factor in my discovery of some of the best shit ive ever heard. But back then i was like the only person who knew this existed and i showed it to EVERYONE. I was obsessed. Till this day I still have people thank me for showing them this, as they would have never discovered it otherwise. It's a rare and strange feeling. As is this masterpiece 🤘
It may sound odd, but this album has a powerful hypnotic effect that helps me sleep..especially when having too many thoughts to fall asleep when tired
Damnit guys...this is the evolution of metal. I feel sorry for people who cannot aknowledge the passion and energy these dudes put into this. Friends would start laughing when i made them listen to this and they never got it. Especially in my country, Greece, people would be thinking monolithically in the sense that if you enjoy this kind of music you can only be a metalhead. But one can enjoy classical and pop music and still get goosebumps when listening to Meschuggah. So much emotion...
+Dimitrios Papapavlou it's because people who never listen to the heavier stuff out there would find this crap. You cannot blame them though. I also grew slowly into metal and it's now my most preferred genre. But if you had me listen to this 10 years ago I only would have heard screaming and noise, no melody, nothing. Of course it's different for everyone but sometimes I instantly like a band I listen to and sometimes it takes a bit of time. It is true though that people start finding it weird that you can like other music besides metal and they get surprised lol. heck, I even like some justin bieber songs these days. overly commercial, underground. If I like it, I listen to it!
When I first found this on Spotify I saw Fredrik Thordendal in the name and thought "Huh interesting, this must sound like Meshuggah then"... Boy was I wrong (and sorta right)
Back when I was in college (around 2003) I had this on CD and it got stuck in my cars CD player, best equipment malfunction ever, I got to listen this record daily for a long time !!
It’s difficult not to get hyperbolic about this music - it’s that good. Fredrik hitting one chord eg 3:33 in «Och stjärnas namn..», palm muting it and then slowly opening up the chord has more power and depth to it than a lot of other music I’ve ever listened to. Majestic.
How the hell did the earth, let alone the Studio in which they were recording this Album, hold and not just break into pieces? I mean, judging by the result (this Album), the recording Process had to be something similar to the big bang. This Album definitely created it's own Universe.
I’m trying to get my metal head 16 year old drummer son to take a jazz intensive this summer. Gonna play him this album as a reminder (he’s heard it before) of WHY he needs to study some jazz.
It has been for the longest time. Im listening to this album for the first time in its Entirety after quite some time, and it was definitely before I finally went through Destroy Erase Improve a couple of times, and if you listen to That album, I think its safe to say that Fredrik could Never really express himself to his fullest potential in Meshuggah after that ever again. Dont get me wrong, because Certainly Fredrik has done a lot of great stuff in Meshuggah, right till his leaving, but listen to This, and the Meshuggah album that came after DEI, as well as after This album came out, which is Chaosphere, and its basically This, but without most of its psychedelic tendencies, and adventurous experimentation melody-wise. I mean, when you compare the Sol Niger Within and Chaosphere, the latter might have become iconic more quickly, but the former was the Actual creative progression and elevation of ideas done in Destroy Erase Improve. Once again, not that it diminishes my fondness of Chaosphere - not in the least, but I should say that Catch Thirtythree is my all time Favorite Meshuggah album, and it might be due to it adhering more to the formula of this record, in that both are concept albums, with CT sounding like a dystopian future when compared to the transcendental trip that is SNW.
@@19RaxR91 DEI is growing on me slowly, and I absolutely love the mind bending melodies. None and DEI are so vastly underrated despite them having some of Meshuggah's best material. I mean I love the turn Meshuggah took after DEI as well, there is not a single song I don't like. But I miss the old Meshuggah as well. It would be amazing if they decide to revisit those days in their new album
In the Meshuggah camp it's folks who cling to Catch 33, or folks who love Chaosphere. If you like utter brutality, funk, and hip hop, Chaosphere is for you. If you like odd sounds Catch 33 is for you. I'm in the Chaosphere camp with Catch 33 and "I" being my least fav albums. I do like the parts of Catch 33 that they play live, but Chaosphere, Nothing, DEI, Obzen, Violent Sleep. Those are all albums that I listen to regularly. I haven't heard that Frederick has left Meshuggah, but that he's taken a break to record his own stuff, and build his studio, which you can see if you follow his Insta. 🤘
Guitar Solos - 0:36 The Beginning of the End of Extraction(Evolutional Slow Down) - 2:35 The Executive Furies of the Robot Lord of Death - 5:28 Dante's Wild Inferno - 6:57 I, Galactus - 9:55 Z1- Reticuli - 13:17 Transmigration of Souls - 18:00 Bouncing in a Bottomless Pit - 24:08 Sensorium Dei - 30:28 On a Crater's Verge - 38:57 Missing Time - 49:35 Ooo Baby Baby Saxophone Solo - 25:53 Z2- Reticuli Bass Solo - 42:10 Missing Time Synth Solos - 43:05 Missing Time - 45:30 Missing Time
my favorite guitar solo of all i've ever heard... and i have listened very very much different ones... - is from "I, galactus". every single note and the way them played, the guitar tone, and of course, rhythmical decisions - are meaningful
Its perfect because no metal album has succeeded in just being disturbing the way a horror movie or HP Lovecraft book is, despite the long association of metal with horror and other related imagery. Im always surprised that no other band or artist has tried to follow in the path of this sound
Maybe I'm just jaded, but after hearing artists like Gnaw Their Tongues, Plebeian Grandstand and Axis of Perdition, can't say I find this album scary. It's trippy as fuck though. Very weird and eclectic, amazing stuff.
A brutal unapologetic merging of metal and jazz. It's like the two genres went to war with each other, and everyone died and went to Valhalla where they feasted until this day and beyond.
Check out rivers of nihil's "monarchy" not the same style but check it out you might like it, "suntold" is sick af, idk why I'm recommending it I just love meshuggah been listening to them for years and rarely find good metal since finding them
Morgan Agren's drumming is INSANE in this album. Dude can make his drums sound like they're falling down a stairwell and then throw the meanest groove. Ugh.... I fuggin love this album
Sounds more like early 90s meshuggah mixed with strapping young lad with other psychedelic prog jazz elements in itself. And I love the Allen Holdsworth style guitar solos.
To those who don’t know; sol niger is the black sun is an archetype I think jungian in origin but not in symbology and mythology. There is a really interesing book called “black sun: the alchemy and art of darkness” it’s fascinating, changes my life. I’ve loved meshuggah a long time and just recently read that book and found this afterwards. Meshuggah and Fredrick are deeper artist than they even appear.
Honestly my favorite album of all time. I've shown it to friends, like most fans of the album have, it just takes time to sink in how genius and crazy this album really is.
Same here. My favorite of all time. It NEVER gets old. Listened to this album more than probably all other albums I've heard combined. Went about 5 years playing this on average every day. Just got caught listening again right now and can't stop, lol! So true about it taking time to soak in, but once it does, it becomes a part of you. I really can't say the same about just about any other music I've heard in any genre. This is a masterpiece without any reservation. It is unlikely that Fredrik could surpass this which might explain the long delay for a part II.
Pretty much the record every extreme prog/tech death metal act of the 90s aspired to make, until Fred came along and proved them hopelessly deluded. It hasn't been bettered since.
38:57 the Most Holdsworth homages I've ever heard! Please everyone listen, this is not from Sol Niger. Its a song called "Missing time" Fredrik did with Mats & Morgan, everyone also needs to realize this drummer played with Frank Zappa!
Same goes for the song following that at 48:31, "Ohh Baby Baby." However, both tracks were included at the end of the 3.33 re-release version of Sol Niger Within as bonus tracks, which is why they're included here. It's also to note that Morgan Ågren is the drummer on Sol Niger Within, and Mats Öberg is featured on several tracks of the album.
I bought this CD at Music Express in Kalamazoo in 1998. I had been into Meshuggah for a few years by then so I figured, it was going to be quite similar. Boy, was I wrong. This album is an hour of atmosphere and texture, 25 years ahead of its time.
I love music to the point where I've always said that I do not have a favorite album. I listen to anything, from tibetan ceremonial music to noise, anything I can get my hands on. But this.. this is something else. I can listen to this album 3 times a day and not get bored of it. Since I have found this album about 5 months ago I have listened to this easily over 100 times and I still love it like the first time I've listened to it. I have never heard of a single piece of music that has been able to capture my attention for this long in such an intense manner even though I know of some strong contenders, this one takes the cake by a long shot. Thank you Fredrik, thank you Morgan and thanks to everyone else involved in the production of this, in my eyes, absolutely flawless piece of Art. I will carry this until the day I die.
Couldn't agree more. There are other albums I have listened to a lot, like Mark of the Mole from the Residents to the point I can hum that whole album from beginning to end, and that is a very strange album! But SNW is the one I never get tired of. Literally every day I get in my car I tap the opening bass rhythm on the steering wheel, like its a code or password to start the car properly. I feel like I know this album so intimately.
I first heard this in 1999 and was completely blown away. It was like falling asleep in 1849, waking up 150 years later and being blown away by how revolutionary and advanced everything was compared to the world I’d known up to that point.
Largely it's the only album I have considered aqquiering. I mean: a vinyl collection got to begin somewhere, and with this work of art the standard would be set.
Morgan Agren's drumming in Sensorium Dei is phenomenal. HOW DO YOU STAY ON POINT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THAT RANDOMNESS. The extra high hats enhance the whole experience so much.
Aliens come to Earth and dock their giant craft suspended above the desert. You can only play 1 song to communicate with them. The song: Sol Niger Within.
I come back to listen to this album a lost a few years ago and realize by the channel name that This Weirdo named Ermin Hamidovic Remasered This Album because maybe he just wanting make it sound better!? Yes, It sounds amazing. Anyways, this Meatwad also happens to make my favorite Sim Racing Content too (I havnt check your channel in a while, Life). He's just a Chad at Everything he does because of his Integrity and this High Bar of Standards He sets himself to. Oh, and He's one of the most impressive Mastering Engineers I've heard whom I Respect a fuck ton more after reading his book. As mentioned, I bought your book like a year ago, Fucker. It was worth its weight in Gold and Ive gained so much from it while regurgitating the things I've learned to help others with questions or tips, like my friends, other bands/musicians at the Music Venue whenever I'm helping setup, doing sound check, running the board for them, etc.). Mainly whenever conversation of recording and audio stuff is talked about, which is quite often, or a see a great musician who great on his instrument but knows fuck all about their own gear, achieving a good tone, or anything Audio Related, which is a lot of musicians. But, I dont blame them at all. I love to help out other musicians in regards to the other side of it all. Anyways, I even picked up Djinn Bass and Flatline from Submission Audio. Out of the Endless seas of a millions VSTs and Virtual Instruments to drown in, Djinn was perfect and Flatline does way too much, way too simply, for way too little the cost. Thanks for putting your stamp out there ERMZ, you've helped me out in a lot of ways, among countless many others when you decided to be a RU-vid Creator. I found you through Sim Racing, Heard you mention Being an Engineer who worked with Misha, I shit my pants, then a checked out your Massive BODY (of work), haha. I was blown away. It also felt weird that This "RU-vid Guy" shared some of the same very specific combo of Interests that I did, as well as having a similar personality. That's never happened before. Naturally, a non-consensual Man Crush developed, haha. You're just a G.O.AT, Brother. Thank You again, for Everything you put out to us. Im just a Younger Guy who loves to play and record music on his Guitar and Drums, Work on other people projects, and pay it forward with my Basement Studio Setup. I'll always be a death metal head who grew up listening to Meshuggah, Morbid Angel, Mayhem, Tool, Misha (Bulb), Mats Morgan Band, Faith No More, Mr Bungle, (Anything Mike Patton and Trey Spraunce) The Secret Cheifs 3, Screaming Headless Torsos, Prog Jazz-Funk, etc) I goes on and on like everyone's list. I can appreciate all forms music now which just makes everything better. Cheers, man
@@Heliosphan33 Certainly better than that time. I am not perfect, but definitely better than I was in the past. Thank you for the good wishes. It's very kind.
Best avant-garde metal album of all time! It’s like I’ve been looking for it all my life! Very beautiful guitar playing from Fredrik combining metal and jazz fusion!!!
This is how it feels when you're in outer space, entering a space-time vortex, and suddenly all these old suppressed memories of that time when you've been abducted by aliens start to resurface....
This was released in 1997 and I can think of dozens of metalcore bands that would release something like this today. As always, Fredrik was/is way ahead of his time, yet undeniably timeless.
+RespectfulDad Its great that, even though theres alot of metalcore/deathcore acts that use the 'djent' tone and play 8 string guitars, Fredriks playing is still unique, which is what makes Meshuggah such a great band.
By far in my experience and opinion the best and most entertaining album i have ever heard.. iv'e probably had over 50 versions of this album. I have a ton of downloaded and ripped versions. This one included. I also have 1 of the vinyls sold from Husaria Records and years ago bought the Sol Niger Within version from Morgan Agren himself.. . I'd most likely never play it(the vinyl)even if i had a record player. This album means a fucken lot to me!
one of the greatest albums of all time.... its pretty cool that Fredrik has been working on a second one for a long time now!!!!! Canttttttttt wait to die and be reborn again when he releases number 2.
I just brought my old CD player out of the basement and set it up. Put this CD in for the first time in about 20 years and it still slaps. These polymetric grooves were everything to me when I was 17 and 18. Chaosphere was the most influential album of all time for me, and this record was always like a dessert / 2nd helping when I wanted more of those insane grooves. A very special era in metal.
We are of course fascinated by the essential unreality of the universe. What starts out as yearning soon becomes corrupted into a dialectic of distress, leaving only a sense of unreality and the possibility of a new understanding. The man alone facing to its own god-self, into the void of existence, where all and nothing is, for the being, of who think beyond "I think therefore I am" semiotics are mere, tetradimensional conceptions for the common mortals that should be deprecated. As spatial forms become clarified through frantic and personal practice, the viewer is left with an insight into the darkness of our existence. The endless oscillation of the universe. What starts out as vision soon becomes corroded into a cacophony of chaos, which generates the cosmos, at all scales of existence, a sense of failing and the inevitability of a new understanding. Temporal replicas become clarified through a clue to the inaccuracies of our future further to a more accurate representation of a more accurate representation of the god through the universe, and the being, defying the void. Is life the only form of sentient existence since we only define it by being so or were we wrong all along is the question only Celestia could answer, as my brain melts into a thousands of high energy particles across the infinity of the cosmos. it's a bit like that.
the beginning of missing time sounds soooo much like an early DOOM soundtrack ! what a wonderful album. I've been a meshug fan for more than 10 years but it took me starting to study jazz and lots of other shit to really grasp this album. Now that my ear is more developped i can really enjoy that incredible sound. To think these guys did this in 1997 is even more astonishing because they litterally were pioneering a sound that would only start getting popular 10/15 years later. Such amazing musicianship and such an underrated album !
Me too. Though ironically, I've just come out of the "schooled musician route", and it's taken this time away (and detaching my notation brain) to finally work out some of what's going on.
@@AidanMmusic96 yea i feel like this kind of music is between both worlds. I'm in no way theorically qualified enough to say with certainty whats going on here and there but being a metalhead first that got into jazz later i really understood how much jazz had influenced this music.
this album, for me is the epitome (ahh love that word) of everything I look for in music. And without exaggeration, is the definition of my core self . 10 years have past since i discovered that album and on every scale : spiritualy, musicly, philosophicly, it is perfection in every aspect. I would die with this album, and go to the next reality with it. whatever reality it will be ... i almost shed tears in my eyes when i'm writing it down ..
One of the best metal records. I recommend checking out the music of Allan Holdsworth next! (All of his albums). The ultimate guitarist and pioneer behind this type of "fluid", legato playing (Thorendal is incredible, but Holdsworth is just unreal! lol). Shawn lane considered him the greatest, should say enough...
This album is deranged as fuck. Meshuggah is aggressive but still methodical and calculated; this, on the other hand, is an absolutely masterful trainwreck. Thordendal is a true artist.
Solarization and the spoken word... what was Thordendal, this creative master doing? Practicing entheogenesis on an artistic level?! I'm left speechless. This is not music it's positively beyond that in my opinion Systematic Productions. I like your remasters. Thanks for the entertainment my friend!
