so i'm pretty sure i didn't see michael allen patton in any of these lists...deliberate omission, or you just didn't think of him? given the passion of many of his fans, that'll probably pump your numbers a bit. plus, he has different versions of himself: the mr. bungle patton is not the faith no more/tomahawk patton is not the mondo cane patton is not the dead cross patton, etc. i actually don't care for the mondo cane version (except in the song urlo negro), or the fantomas version. of course, the miracle of patton is that the fantomas and mondo cane pattons are the same as the faith no more/tomahawk pattons.
Watching this a year later is hilarious, especially the “ice cold bottle of Bud” line. That wouldn’t fly with the people who listen to that music today. 😂
When we (Chimaira) were on the show Farmclub (right before we signed to Roadrunner), they try to get the big bands to hang out with the unsigned bands, to make them feel like they equal peers…. The only band to hang out with us, was Incubus. Nicest guys ever. You’d never know they just got bigger than Jesus, by how down to earth they were.
I remember watching you guys on that man, I'm from Youngstown, Ohio! (Watch your mouth Finn! 🤣) You guys definitely made Ohio metalheads proud. All the best man. 👏👏👏
Yes. As a Linkin Park fan, I never really understand why people say Chester is one of the best vocalists of all time, I wouldn't go that far, (maybe one of the best live vocalists) but I'd say he's easily the best of that era. Then of course; Amy Lee, and Corey Taylor.
Nice to see Layne on S Tier. Very underrated along with Alice in Chains(compared to Nirvana and Pearl Jam). Yes he was a Yarler but he did it naturally and didn't lean on it like most bands of the 90's(looking at Creed), he could actually sing. Guy could really make you feel things with his voice and was very influential, so many singers after Layne tired to imitate him.
Absolute best singer in my opinion. His voice is unmatched and he seemed like I really cool dude. It's a shame he was gone so soon, but even though I never got to see him perform I'm happy I shared the same timeline as him for the first 9 years of my life
Davey havok has got to be one of the nicest front-men in the whole cohort of post-hardcore bands. Davey seems like such an admirable chad - never rude or disrespectful. Not to mention the 2006 Karen hair and suspenders - classic.
I love post-hardcore but never saw it as the genre with a bunch of douches, maybe there’s some that I’m unaware of but I would like to know ! I do know the whole DGD recent situation with tilian.
It's so funny that Finn showed the exact same videos and said basically the exact same things about Danny Worsnapp in episode one 😂 It's like he channeled a memory and didn't realize it was happening.
Incubus is one of the greats and if you haven't heard them in a while, definitely a great reminder of why we all love them. The hits of course, but songs like "Here In My Room," "Echo," "Megalomaniac," est. are so much better than they get credit for. Honestly, aside at most 5-7 songs, every album is great all the way through
Your next band tier list needs to be people who got kicked out of their bands and why, and base your "would i want to hang out with them" based on that 🤣
@@muenchhausenmusic like, a few recent examples would be keith buckley from every time i die, alex from atreyu, etc. Maybe even people who left their bands on their own accord, but you get where this is going... 🤣
Is there anyone that left their original band for a new one or solo project that comes to mind? I dunno, like gwen stefani or something? I guess no doubt isn't officially done-zo but there's kind of no point now 😆 and would you want to hang out with her? As a factor on the tier list, of course 🤣 i think she's already been done but I'm out of people off the top of my head haha
Agree. A DJ isn't only record scratches, they're basically a producer onstage who can provide all sorts of background sounds that producers would add on a studio recording anyway. Which, if the DJ weren't there, would either be missed live or have to be done with backing tracks. But bands like Incubus, LP or LB can bring the full sonic richness in a live setting, and I think that makes a difference, albeit often a subtle one
They had so much potential in the Science era though. Not sure where they lost their way. I remember a show in Salem Mass in October of 98 with maybe 30 people in attendance. Still have the signed set list. I also saw them open a small club club show ahead of system that same month.
@@kdogg7882 do yourself a favor and at least listen up till Light Grenades. Idk, maybe it’s not your thing, but it’s very good music. After Light Grenades however, I will agree they fell off and lost a lot of their creativity.
“I bite my tongue every time you come around, cause blood in my mouth, beats blood on the ground” is one of my favorite lyrics. It’s such a poignant way to describe a toxic relationship.
The reason Layne isn't higher on general rock singer lists is because his body of work was so small. As iconic as their Unplugged performance was, it's kind of tough to watch considering what his voice sounded like from 89-92. Those are the years to search for concert videos because heroin was really starting to affect him in 93. He had such a toxic relationship with his ex fiancée Demri and when he got clean in 93, his dad came back into the picture to mooch drugs and Layne never kicked it again after December 93. He would just hold up in his condo playing video games. Was too embarrassed, but just couldn't kick the addiction. 1989: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l5SHif5Yuik.html 1990: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4UyX-kisicY.html 1991: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eDEtFIyKit0.html 1992: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lKoYkFk_TWw.html The producers and sound engineers would ask him to do another take, Layne would say "Nope, you got your take." and Layne would be right. People said you could hear Layne's voice over all of the stage noise too.
What's wild is that I used to wonder how Layne's voice would have aged, but then I realized that we listened to it age in a very sped up way from 93 to his final recordings on Died, Get Born Again and the Pink Floyd cover.
i saw jinjer live in the fall of 2019 and they were absolutely unreal. best live show i've seen. they're also great people and have done a lot to try to support their country of ukraine
Brilliant live. Saw them in Vancouver last year. Their drummer got covid and was stuck in the US. They played the entire show with recorded drums and didn't miss a beat. It was amazing.
Saw them twice so far. They were a little more raw the first time. Second time they upgraded their venue, and Tati was fucking flawless. I'm not exhaggerating. She hit every note, clean & scream and sounded insanely good. One of the best vocal shows I've EVER seen.
I'm with you on the Sex Pistols. Surprisingly interesting band. Only band in British history to hit #1 on the charts, but the spot was left blank. They didn't move #2 to the top spot... they just left it blank.
Who cares if Finn like to have him on his barbecue, I think he has an interesting personality, he is like the Henry Rollins of the first wave of punk, not everyone likes him but that is what punk is about...
Alissa is actually straight edge so I think you'd get along with her Finn :D And also: How dare you disrespect Arch Enemy, they're quite possibly the best death metal band out there right now, they literally have an all star line-up and great songs! You should give them a chance. But knowing you, you'd be like: "Ugh! Melody? In metal? How European! How Cringe!" :D :D
Brandon Boyd is certainly an incredible singer. Unfortunately “Wish You Were Here” and “Nice to Know You” don’t really show that off, but he goes all out on the “A Crow Left of the Murder” album.
Alissa's work with the Agonist is so much better than what she does with Arch Enemy. The first three albums are solid, especially Lullabies for the Dormant Mind. Amazing metalcore.
Rewatching the first installment of this EPIC series made me realise that Danny Worsnop was already ranked in part 1 😂😂😂 Good to see though that he has since risen a rank, was rated C tier back then. Such vocal prowess must be rewarded
I think the guys in Incubus are actually pretty humble. Brandon sure is on the artsy intellectual side but doesn't seem entitled at all. Especially now since they're older. They have a song that is about that topic, called State of the art. How they are basically now considered old and the Zeitgeist has moved on, even though they feel like they have just figured out who they are. Imo one of their best songs on one of their worst albums (which was co-produced by Skrillex btw)
Has he covered Mike Shinoda yet? Arguably he wasn't the front person of Linkin Park, but he was definitely the one behind their visual style and musical styles
Wish You Were Here is not the best song for Incubus as far as vocal ability. Brandon B is really good and has a very wide range of styles, but I do agree he isn't the most pronounced vocalist. Still top fucking notch though. Especially live. Seen Incubus many times and he is always perfect.
Completely agree, I forgot that he brings it live, too. The whole band is ridiculously talented at what they do. Mike Einziger (guitarrist) co-wrote Avicii's Wake me up and Lovers on the sun. This was during Incubus's hiatus, and he used that time and enrolled in university to study composition. Which imo says a lot about a person, the fact that they value their craft. If you do that, especially after already having achieved the level of success he has, it probably means that you're a pretty humble person who puts their craft before their ego
I think ronnie would blame the controller, look at you, laugh, and say “lets go fuck off” and you’d go do something fun. Wife met him and said he was nice and cleared his bus out so she could use his restroom. I saw him live, dudes a beast on the vocals.
Good call on Johnny Rotten! Nevermind the Bollocks was basically the Nevermind or Dookie of the late 70s. And PiL was fantastic, too. I would consider him B or possibly even A tier. He seems like a really funny, smart, and thoughtful guy. Even his snarky, snotty persona has a lot of thought behind it.
Alice in Chains Unplugged is one of the finest, most flawless live performances ever recorded. No question. And there's no reason to bring Hayley Williams onto this list, she is S tier. Everybody knows that. 👍
I meet Danny Worsnop on his solo tour before & after the show at the Whiskey. Such a nice guy & his wife is so sweet. He learned for a lot of his mistakes & is driven to be back where he is.
Finn, where you go wrong with these videos is starting over every time with a blank sheet. You need to keep all the past entries up there to compare the new people against them. Helps to keep things in perspective
I know someone who worked with Jared Leto from mid 2000’s to early 2010’s. When asked about the experience, all she’ll say is that Leto has an appetite for teenagers.
Which in and of itself is not a bad thing. People can't help what they like. The two real questions are 1. whether you act on it and 2. IF you do, how you do it
The Bri'ish remember when Johnny Rotten appeared in a Country Life Butter advert. That was the moment the younger generation realised that punks weren't really the anti-capitalist heroes we thought they were 🤣
Finn, I love all your videos. I’ve been watching Punk Rock MBA for a couple of years now. You’ve already hollered at me before. I love this 2nd channel too. I really would LOVE for you to make a video on V.O.D. That would be awesome. I know you like them. Plus All Out War and stuff on your wallpaper is the shit. Layne Staley might be the best vocalist of all time, but I’d have to argue Kurt too. You’re the fucking man. I love how many shout outs you’re getting online right now. I tell EVERYONE about your channels 24/7. You deserve it. You’re a true student of music in general. Props Finn. 🤘🏻
i met austin in june and he was the most genuine person I've ever met. Like honestly man we had the longest talk about just life and it was the greatest thing of my life
My sister was a waitress in a bar and everlast pulled a "dont you know who i am?" Because she wasn't going out of her way to take care of him before everyone else. She told him she knew who he was, and that she didn't care.
Watched Everlast complain about Pringles using "Jump Around" in a commercial at a concert once. They proceeded to play a Pringles commercial on the screens on either side of the stage while he was setting up for his next song.
Amy Lee is indeed a legend. I think she, Corey and Chester are the top 3 of nu-metal, just head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in that genre.
Cedric from At The Drive-In should be on here. He is second to none as far as live performances go during his prime. I get why you migth have been hesitant to put him on here. That fanbase is RABID.
Glad you gave Johnny Rotten and The Sex Pistols some love. They are still one of my favorite bands. Johnny had charisma in spades fronting them. I'd probably kick him up a level and would love to have him over for BBQ.
I remember seeing Arch Enemy/Trivium tour and Alissa broke her in ear monitors 3 songs in and did the rest of the set without hearing herself or her bandmates, they had no stage monitors. That’s a high class act and vocalist, especially in the age of technology where in ears are everything.
Only utilized one technique most of the time till he started singing, and even than he just kept getting worse at both, not good at all, or near the best in the scene era
@@jcfontaine0017 Well his health was on the decline right after their Restoring Force album. Marfan syndrome kept him in the hospital constantly. And that would put a damper on his vocal abilities. But up until that point, he was as solid of a screamer as one could be. Not the best but not the worst.
So, I met Courtney Love at a party once... she's honestly like that drunk girl at the party who loves everyone and is extremely handsy... you know the one. That girl who hangs on everyone and tells you she loves you WAY too close. And that's how she was acting early in the day before she had had anything to drink. She seemed nice enough from my brief encounter, but an absolutely weird woman. As for Howard, absolutely chill, nothing but great things about him. Jared Leto I only happened to meet him briefly, talked to him for a few minutes with some friends in Malibu, and in that exchange he was absolutely a nice dude. Now, several years later all his psycho shit came out and honestly, as nice as he was when I met him, none of the cult shit surprises me at all. He reminds me of that overly nice "spiritual" dude with an agenda and a half. Never got to meet any others from this list, but I'd say this is the most solid list I've seen so far.
Imo Incubus really hit their stride with the two albums following Morning view (where Wish you were here was from). Incredible drumsound on those records, Brendan O'Brian's signature piccolo snare, and all the drum parts are so damn catchy! Also, something about the vocals on Morning view just rubs me the wrong way, they're kinda icky. Brandon also got way better after that imo, the band found itself with A Crow Left Of The Murder
@@jackson.6282 Haha, yes! But equally guitarrist and producer also. I mainly talked about the drumming because Finn pays attention to drumsounds as well, though, hehe... 😁 If I remember correctly, he even likes piccolo snares. Are you a drummer as well?
@@muenchhausenmusic I really want to be able to get a drum set. I’m a multi instrumententalist with bass being my first instrument, and I’m playing guitar a lot right now. I love your comment because it shows you really listen to the music, I barely ever see comments of people talking about the drums on songs so I just had to guess you were a drummer lol
Turntables over heavy riffing was one of the best things in nu-metal, how could you possibly miss that? Also, Incubus's best song is Pardon Me, much better than Wish You Were Here.
Weiland & Amy Lee are both S-Tier ... I'll explain why: Amy Lee transcends her genre and is rated by critics, "normies" and even R&B fans as one of (if not the) best voice of a generation. She inspired girls to get operatic vocal training and had guys questioning their self identity due to singing questionably emotional lyrics. Lol. Also, more people know HER name at this point than the band's; her covers and solo work get millions of views. Scott ... Finn's assessment of his vocal ability is correct; he's an absolutely great voice. Phenomenal song writer. He was in a band with SLASH and basically soaked up all of the limelight, as much as Axl did! His stage presence was unbelievable. He was a completely miserable asshole (look up his interviews, his no-shows and his attitude) yet he's STILL beloved. That guy was on his way to being a top front man for his third wave, which is crazy. And YES, people thought STP were poser grunge and they STILL bought them, heavily due to Scott. And yeah, for their genre, the Pistols were great.
