FrSky should have done this 2 years ago | FRSKY ARCHER RS 

Leaving this comment here for frsky to see. It’s too little to late you burned the bridge with your consumer. You won’t be getting my money ever again. Now for JB. Love your channel dude.

My Qx7 has been sitting on a shelf collecting dust. Switched to Radiomaster and will NEVER go back. Bye Bye FrSky!

The only reason I'm watching this, is for my Bardwell fix. FrSky showed their hand, never will I buy their products. A tantrum like a spoiled child isn't the way a company should behave.

quick tip for anyone that might actually use frsky still.. the access receivers/firmwares do NOT have f.port protocol (only using one wire for both signal and telemetry) enabled by default! after you've bound the RX, in your TX menu/model, click and hold on the bound RX and you will see a pop-up menu for options, which is where you have to select and enable f.port! i hope this helps someone. 👍

Thank you Joshua. Always informative; always comprehensive; always clear and logically sequenced; and with a bit of quirky humor thrown in. Just the complete package. And congratulations on the next Bardwell generation. I would bet that he will be a wizz of a flyer before he's 6.

Way to late for me and lots of others pilots 😅 switched to TBS when it get one big mess at FRsky a wile ago

50% of the comments talk about Frsky being way too late with this step. 50% of the comments are about being here not for Frsky but for another Bardwell video

Anybody notice he turned on the x9 like a dji product, click, click hold? Lol. Thsnk you for all your video JB! YOURE AWESOME!

Great video, do you have an explanation how to bind an Archer M+ to a Radiomaster TS16

Thank you. You’ve motivated me to look back into the X7 crossfire mod...

Thanks JB, I will test out expresslrs soon.

Wow I'm stunned by the comment section!! I am new to the quad world and while I daydream about CRSF and Ghost, my QX7S and RXSR's seem solid so far.....I think I got in at a good time though, AFTER the Frsky wars - most Frsky problems are CURRENTLY solved, I have full telemetry on my 2 F4 FC's - and yes, it was a PITA to search through videos and try different solder connections, but my 4 quads work just fine (for my current flying ability). The BIGGEST PITA that I had (more than once) was after upgrading a new RX to the 2.1.0 firmware, I couldn't put the RX into bind mode, and the workaround that accidentally solved this was to flash the 1.1.4 FW and then the 2.1.0 FW after. This worked both times. Anyway - thanks JB - great review as always.

Great content as always. I still use my XLITE pro with ACCESS built in. I'm currently able to bind my (Whoop) M6 with D16 although D8 would be better. I'm also able to bind my Maytek SPI Rx FC with D16. If I upgrade my Radio's FW am I going to still be able to fly my Whoops and other FrySky RX's or am I going to have to upgrade all my other Rx's with new FW? I have 8 quads with XM-+ and r-sxr's it would suck if I buy one Archer RX and have to upgrade but at the same time have to upgrade all my other RX's. Not sure if that makes sense.

Hi, Love your work!! I have a tx16s and would like to know if it's acces compatible because am looking for a receiver that supports fport to save a uart for Bluetooth. Thanks.

I love all of his videos so much

I have same TX and RX and quad. I hope this works 🤞🏼

You lost me at over the air bind :D I'm happy with my legacy FrSky gear. That is a _cute_ baby!

The R9mx and R9mm/mini OTA receivers also update over the air. I think the Archer series just makes this available now for 2.4. You only need to “register” once using the button. After this you can bind just by plugging in. If you switch remotes you can share the pairing and not have to use the button to register the second time.

Maybe test to see if you can do only the Reg, and then update the firmware before bind. If that works, and reg were a simpler handshake then it might alleviate the can't bind due to version mismatch issue.

Excellent!! Do you think I can do an over-the-air firmware update for the new Archer generation receivers using multiprotocol radios like TX16S?

Ordered one thanks josh

To late switched to crsf

Hi Joshua, I've just switched to FrSky from Spektrim. I would like to update my new radio. I got the FrSky taranis x9d plus SE 2019. On the companion site, do I use the taranis plus 2019 firmware as I can't see a listing for the "SE" version? Thanks.

Can you use an ARCHER R4 if you are not confident in soldering skills for the pins? Don't need the PWM servo outputs so I would likely cut those off.

Hey I have a question FPV Goggles Fat Shark Predator V2 are does good fpv goggles to buy ?

Had too many issues trying to bind the R-SXR receivers with X9 Lite TX, bought a second one thinking the 1st one was bad after following all your setup videos. After watching this video, i purchased 2 Archers from your links. After connecting it, it binded on the 1st try instantly. So frustrated 😡 i didn't know about the Archer RS before purchasing the R-SXR RX's. Money down the drain. BTW, thank you JB for replying back to my emails and for your help.

Hey Josh I'm currently trying to bind my R-sxr and it won't bind I have a Horus S10 Express ... What receiver firmware are you on witch ISRM ???? and what R-sxr firmware Please I am stuck !!!!!!!!

Yes the baby is very cute. I need one of those back packs for my cute little baby 😆

How is the xlite pro ?really like the controller look

ok, so how come it doesn't recognize my Tx sometimes unless I power the Rx first and then the Tx (taranis X-lite pro..F.Port) ?? I think F.Port causes problems with FrSky stuff cause when I used S.Bus I never had any issues. you have to regster before you can bind, once you register you can then share it around to different radios too. i got two of these Rx, plenty of range with the X-lite pro Tx (no ext antenna) for freestyle. BTW, it's not good practice to have Rx close to Tx, specially 900 mhz

Finally OTA, too late FrSky, alienated every customer meantime... You just have to buy a brand new Access Transmitter..?..it's not like they're cheap either. My old Taranis has a JR Bay, I don't need Access thanks...Guess I'm not alone...plus I have a new Radiomaster TX..🤔🤔😳🇬🇧

One of the biggest pain in the ass things I had to learn in this hobby was getting an rxsr updated, registered and bound.

im confused... aint the archer recivers bringing to the table the same as the access version of the recivers we usually use, like the xm+ or the rxsr? (Which usually are the same as the accst but whith access firmware), pls if you know i would love to hear about it, im really confused now..... edit: just realized the xm+ does not have support for access, but still some of the RX lineup have support for access and the have been shipped with access for quite a long time. So what i cant understand what brings archer that is different from the access RX lineup? (furthermore than cheaper and new recivers with access support).

Did the receiver actually come flashed with the latest and greatest if it had 2.1.0 and you just updated your radio to 2.1.5 though? I'm confused about that.....

Where are the whoop fc's with ACCESS support?!? Or for that matter crossfire onboard?

Hey Hey the Roma making an appearance. I got one about 2 weeks ago and I love it. I can't wait to see your review on it unless I missed it. I also have the Cidora SL5 6s but I have had 5 2207 1800kv motors separate there bellhousing in under 30 days and not because of crashing. The only time it crashed is when the bellhousing separated and shorted out the wires. One of them literally exploded the bell house ripped off and magnets flew everywhere the frame was fine and the prop stayed on and was fine WTH. That motor only had 4 packs flown through it. The hobby shop said they were aware of the issue that xing had a bad batch of motors but I am done with Xing E 2207 1800kv motors. The hobby shop did replace everyone of them for free. I ended up getting the Xing unibell 2208 1800kv motor and the hobby shop even gave me a free one. I have not had a single issue with the Xing unibell there great. They said I just had bad luck and I must have found every bad motor from the batch. It was very discouraging because the Cidora was my first 5 inch quad I thought I was doing something wrong. I have never had a hard crash because I fly in a 7 acre open field and I did all my noob crashing on a smaller quad. Anyway I have heard great things about the xing e motors but I had a nightmare of an experience and I will never use them again. On a plus side I got really good at taking my Cidora apart and soldering motors to it. I love your videos there very helpful THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO.

Non-related to the subject... not many people welcomed this FrSky stuff anyway, many already went to CRSF/Tracer and never looked back. I see you have Roma F5 on your bench. Is it possible to tell which one in your valuable opinion has better flight characteristics, Nazgul5 V2/HD or Diatone Roma F5? Trying to decide which one to go as my first 5" quad. Thank you so much in advance!

Its messed up cause what about the rxsr or xm+. You gotta start all over

Will those access bind on jumper T16?

That’s Super interesting great work 👌🏽👍🏽

If you've got the wrong firmware and you cant bind, how can you prebind and then update.

Has anyone commented RTFM yet? I just unsolder the sbus wire on my xsr, connect to Tx rf bay, also connect ground, and flash in about 3 minutes. And I still can use my countless V/D8/D16/X Rx's, for me to swap over to archer would be north of 500 bucks plus new Tx and a lot of time,,,,and all for what advantage?

I tried updating the firmware of my x9d plus se and bows it’s bricked. How to I reset everything to unbrick it?

I think, if you started upgrading the receiver without having first bound the receiver, what receiver would it try to send the upgrade to? Any random quad that is going to be plugged in the vicinity? Imagine someone doing that at the start of a race o.O. It makes sense that you can only upgrade after being bound or at least registering the receiver. That being said, i went over to crossfire a week ago and actually i didn't need to press anything on the receiver to bind it to my radio, i simply used TBS Agent X to bind it.

hey dude i have a radiomaster tx16s with the access mod, will these receivers work with it now its modded?

thnks for the vid you seem to forget rssi and fport low latency or are going to do another video on this thanks

just bound one five minutes ago, you still gotta update all the firmware to use it. (xlite pro os, xlite pro internal antenna firmware, and receiver(wired receiver to radio )firmware update. Got the archer RS

I used to use Spektrum on wings and gliders but you had no feedback about your radio link, or in fact anything. So I swapped to FrSky and enjoyed RSSI straight back to my Taranis. Now I use XFire and I'm back to flying with no RSSI. And updating the firmware every time I buy a new Rx which will involve updating the Tango2 and my XFire module, and all the other frigging Rxs I have. Not so good either.

Provided you didn't have go through re-flashing an R-XSR, it was a good little short range receiver, so its nice to have the (cheaper than crossfire) Archer RS as a short range alternative to crossfire that seemingly will bind/update trouble free. IMO, for micros, and other quads you won't take beyond a parking lot, playground, or yard, 2.4GHz ACCESS is great, and doesn't require me to screw in the crossfire antenna. Beyond that - crossfire only...and my X9D+2019SE has been a trouble-free workhorse (once I figured out how to re-flash Open TX for crossfire support)

Maybe I'll put archer on my whoop but r9 coming off other quads and crossfire going on. My R9 itself worked great after firmware problems except my antenna broke a few times which they should

I use a QX7 with iRX4in1 and (mainly) R-XSR receivers. As and when I need new receivers I will get other manufacturers receivers. If/when the QX7 breaks, it'll be Jumper or Radiomaster. Once bitten, twice shy. It is easier to lose trust than get it back.

Sooo, QX7 does work?

1.what's size SD card should I use? 2. Can the Archer be used for my Eachine Novice 4 and my Fly fox nano 3.. both with Frsky receivers.. 3. I have Tx12 controller. I just want to use 1 controller for all my analog drone I purchase.

Hey I recognize that 24v PSU in the background! I actually used your video and made a replica with a few tweaks. Also, that's a lot of D6 Duos lol.

Hi Josh Great news about FRSKY. Now that they have fixed the problem with their receivers and firmware updates I wonder what's going to happen with my radio's ? I have 2 FRSKY radio's the Xlite and a X9D the X9D I haven't been using, but I have been using my first edition Xlite for all of my flying, and what will happen to them ?

Couldnt you just update with fport without binding?

FWIW you want to bind all your receiver to the receiver 1 slot, the 2 or 3 slot is for redundant receivers.

I just got a new xm+ and it took my over an hour to figure out how to update firmware. I didn’t even have an SD card in my taranis.

you really have to make a video about Express LRS and compare it with all these tbs stuff out there !

Can't i just modify or upgrade somehow my old X9D+ and X9E to work with access? :(

I have all the firmware updates on my radio takes seconds to update a new receiver on the wire ssd super fast

The X9 lite is the main reason I stick to FrSky as it has the perfect form factor for me. It’s really great that also TBS acknowledged the existence of the JR lite module standard and released their modules for this radio last year. So I can finally have the best of ALL worlds 😊.

With OTA my R9 wouldn't bind with wrong firmware and would not ota update without being binded. I was so mad. They talked no button bind. Update ota. So thought I was good. But no access you still have to hit the bind button. I had to build s.port cable with pins for it.. then I updated a receiver and module. Then went to fly other drone and then had to go down a firmware on module to bind and update lol so annoying

I was flying spektrum, but switched to frsky x9d plus like ages ago. After i put crossfire into it i stopped bothering about links, and if i have to switch controllers, i will go tango 2. It's that easy.

Are these archer receivers compatible with ACCST protocol? I have XD9 Taranis (not plus) and using R9 module so I guess XD9 can’t do ACCESS JUST ACCST

i am only watching cause i like listening to you, i use cross fire

Nice! But, I still have to purchase a new radio. Why can't they make some chip like the TBS mod? I would like to try a mod on my existing QX-7 that still works, rather than get a new "ACCESS" radio altogether. I guess I should stock up on a few R-XSR receivers before they pull the plug on them too. Just until my QX7 dies. RadioMaster, here I come!!!

Hi Joshua, I'm new to this, and bought a Taranis XD9+ 2019 & Archer R6 receiver after reading many websites. I should have read comments here first. Well now : I can't register the receiver "as described". Nothing happens, just the irritating beep from the remote. My Tx is a EU-LBT. Could it be that my Rx is a FCC, and that's the reason why it doesn't work? How would I know (it says 'bind to every Taranis remote')? Or can ACCESS Rx bind no mater what FCC/EU-LBT? I tried flashing the Rx through the back (oscarliang.com/flash-frsky-rx-firmware/), nothing happened but error messages. Spent more time on this binding than actual flying... --> Is there anything I can do before trashing the whole thing? I feel I really need your help! Thanks for all advice and videos =)

Too bad they won't work with the TX16S. Excellent video Joshua!!

Just wanted to point out that the M+ does have an inverted sbus pad on the backside of the receiver. Which I'm still a little confused on, but apparently the regular sbus pad is technically inverted and the inverted pad is not truly inverted. Which caused me a little headache getting it to work with a CrazybeeF4.

I think that it is enough to only register the receiver. Then you can update it with OTA functionality. My experience is that any receiver, bought as ACCESS, there already was suitable firmware for OTA on it. If you have ACCST radio and non Archer ACCESS receiver, flash suitable ACCST firmware (EU LBT or FCC) on it and that's it. I'm R9 user and for that, flash your R9 with Flex firmware (no matter being ACCST or ACCESS), flash your receiver with Flex firmware and that's it. At least for ACCESS, at binding, you have options to bind using 868MHz OR 915MHz and after binding, then further options to select any output power, Fport, Sbus, ppm and more.

Joshua are you ever gonna switch to FrSky??

Whats is the advantages of this over a RSXR? I have a qx7s would love get a little more range without having to go buy crossfire

Bought a few Archer RS and like them so far! Smaller and lighter than XM+ and no more signal crapping out when flying too close to the TX.

Can you find this receiver to a tx16s

@Joshua bardwell You actually can do the OTA update without the Bind, but you have to Register it. Cool stuff is that when i had this R9MX that was on different firmware(and region) than the R9MLP, Bind was not possible, Registrering was, and OTA still worked... no soldering needed... after the OTA update it would bind too(ofc) 😀

JB, do the right thing and stop promoting their products. I know you just want to help the frsky users by making this video but we need to stand up against companies like them. You're at the front line of the hobby, show them our community has integrity!

FlySky was one of the first with OTA firmware updates...

OTAs've been around for quite a while. What is thepoint?

Is that the roma

Can Radiomaster TX18s handle access?

Forget it Bardwell. I'm never buying an FR-Sky receiver again. Sticking to the Jumper receivers.

Finally!!!!!! it has been a pain in the ass.....

its all about trust, most people like myself that r9mini and r9mm, it felt like we was using beta stuff with random RXLOSS i am not bothered about OTA, i just want it to just bind and work, and keep working, like most, just want that, OTA is nice when it works, but all the defected RX's and bad vregs that step down to 3.3v being sensitive to noise, all my r9 stuff is currently in a box, and support from frsky is non, i have a frsky x lite that will not power off, i can trick it to turn on, but you have to pull the battery to turn it off, support was non, even sent me a link to a replaced board for the wrong pad, i have gone CF and do fine that OTA can fail but the recovery thing tends to work, but the two main things, when its updated it just works and keeps working, and when i had a bad nano, cf just send me a replacement the same day, without people like me buying the stuff and lovely people like you showing it to others, the people making the stuff would not be making any money, the first thing frsky need to start doing is offering real support, they need to fix that, if anyone from frsky reads this, any update on any help for the xlite ??

It would be interesting to see what % of RC radio links in use, are FRSKY.

I have an x9 lite and I bought an r9m module (EU-LBT), because the crossfire doesn’t fit without some hardware adjustments. I am not a novice, but the experience to bind it with the flex firmware has been a real nightmare. And I can understand why people prefer to get crossfire instead. I think that FrSky should do a step ahead if want to save some market share.

Well is there any better option for small range micro quads out there? Comparing weight/range/price/latency? Believe archer m+ would be the best choice to switch from an crappy onboard spi receiver. But I haven't found any good range tests on those new archers on RU-vid. On one youtube comment I read the rs failsafed same distance on 100mw compared to r9 and crsf but the guy has to do more tests.

Pretty interesting system, no argument there. But if I had to buy another radio... It wouldn't be FrSky. Not after I bought the R9 system and they just killed it with the ACCESS protocol just 2 months after I received it. So... For me FrSky can crash and burn, basically. Thanks anyway, Joshua! Great video! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Thanks for the info update JB but too late frsky! IM ON THE DARKSIDE NOW! (TBS CRSF) Sorry not sorry 6:00 So glad i switched to crossfire. It just works. no sitting around wondering is it going to do something

Too little, too late. Like many I retired my original X9D (2014 model), and picked up a TX16S and a Ghost module. I use Jumper R8 receivers with my Pixhawk models and Radiomaster receivers with my short range fixed wings, good for a couple of km’s, and EzUHF and Ghost for my long range stuff.

This function is there for about half a year. The problem is people not able to bind, so they still have to update the firmware by S.port cable which is a real hassle. So I do not really get what has changed or is improved?

I’ve bought 6 Archer RS, because I was assembling new quads, and replaced the old XM+. I know Tracer / CRSF / Ghost are superior, but I made a mistake when I started the hobby by picking X9 Lite around 2019, instead of waiting about a year until Radiomaster is out. I didn’t know anything about Jumper, and Crossfire seem expensive at the time.

Found out yesterday you can do the same with the rsxr!!! Who knew lol

could you update it with radiomaster?

Hey Joshua Bardwell, I don't know if there's other people who have pointed this out or not, but something I believe you forgot to mention in the video is that, unlike the XM+, the Archer M+ supports telemetry, and also does technically have a small solder pad on the bottom for inverted S.Port. The only real difference between the M+ and the RS that I can really see is that the RS has diversity, and the S.Port pad is broken out so it's easier to solder to. Also, I was wondering if you've tested binding different controller/transmitter firmware versions and different receiver firmware versions to see if there was any trouble binding?

that outro gets me every time bardwell 🤣

You are the olny person that has ever said yeah to I need to update firmware lol

FRSKY is all over the place even with ARCHER thing... Ive long ago stopped updating FRSKY RXs, I run the old ACESS thing, flash the same firmware that works fine and thats it...! Ill be going to move over to TBS RXs gradually, and just work with my old TARANIS and TBS TRACER for now... TARANIS is still a good robust feel ....

Joshua, first thank you for your work that made drone world closer to a lot of us. I am frustrated with FrSky because I bought QX7, and several months later I was left without option to upgrade it to new acer or whatever standards. Do you might know if there is an option to buy just new electronic boards to replace old ones in my qx7? I know that it is a question for FrSky, not for you, but they didn't bother to answer me. Maybe you could get the answer. Otherwise, I will move far away from this unfair producer.

nice video and showing what other people tend to do when getting new stuff, agree that they should pop up or say something, like if the RX is new and not been bond to anything then just allow it to bind to anything then lock it then, at that point it would even then let you flash or like you shown, it tells you what firmware is on it already, so the user can make there mind up, this should be able to be fixed in software, but frsky is still a no from me, thank you for the making the video