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Full Analysis of the Halo 2 E3 2003 Demo Stream by 343 Industries 

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@DukeTheRebel
@DukeTheRebel 5 лет назад
They should make the ‘03 demo playable just so the fans could actually experience the Halo 2 we never got
@JustinsaneS222
@JustinsaneS222 5 лет назад
If that were to happen it'll 100% wash away my thoughts on Halo4/5... and then before even 1 second passes of actually playing the demo I will die of a heart attack from being to excited. aka: Yes... they should, but they wont. :D
@prophetofgrunt2088
@prophetofgrunt2088 5 лет назад
JustinsaneS222 actually no that won’t happen lol, it’ll just crash, remember bungie themselves said it was unstable
@hiphopaDIZZL
@hiphopaDIZZL 5 лет назад
​@@prophetofgrunt2088 you would probably need a dev kit to play it anyway
@prophetofgrunt2088
@prophetofgrunt2088 5 лет назад
hiphopaDIZZL yeah, the only way they can release it, is if they make it stable
@JustinsaneS222
@JustinsaneS222 5 лет назад
they could release it into mcc as dlc? that way it'll be running on hardware that it can take advantage from.
@cubesproduction140
@cubesproduction140 5 лет назад
Now they need to show off the early builds of halo ce
@wolfgang7850
@wolfgang7850 5 лет назад
Would those even still exist?
@player-cr7ee
@player-cr7ee 5 лет назад
Johnson said no smoke and mirrors, he was half right
@Rythaze
@Rythaze 5 лет назад
Nice video boss. Still really am surprised at how stable these builds were. No crashes or anything.
@ausaskar
@ausaskar 5 лет назад
Yeah, we've heard for years how unstable New Mombasa 2003 was yet they played through it 3 times (two of those times trying a bunch of off-script stuff) and didn't crash it once.
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
I’m going to assume that the devs were referring to the time months before E3 2003 where they were trying to get it finished, and they might have been going through several road blocks with the given hardware at the time, hence why the engine was scrapped after E3.
@BaggyFTJ
@BaggyFTJ 5 лет назад
Those graphics looked way too good for the time it was being made, if only it would have worked.
@greenbean2222
@greenbean2222 5 лет назад
The graphics brought me not just Nostalgia, but SUPER NOSTALGIA! Damn did it look cool.
@MattSipka
@MattSipka 4 года назад
Too ambitious for the time.
@jarryj1995
@jarryj1995 5 лет назад
I didn't know 343 did this. This is my favorite build of the game and I'm so glad there's so much to uncover after all these years.
@Chinfu-gb8sk
@Chinfu-gb8sk 5 лет назад
One of the best halo yt next to hidden experia only if we had more that left us *cough* lukethenotable
@TheChronicleMultiverse
@TheChronicleMultiverse 5 лет назад
I hope someone manages to get this online for download. Maybe even if it’s possible make it more stable and playable and even add to it. Modders can do insane things these days
@greenbean2222
@greenbean2222 5 лет назад
Dude I'd love to see it get leaked to the public. Hell, I would prefer the other build over the E3 2003 Demo personally, because it has SO MUCH! I'd like to have both though, they are really interesting and it bugs me how they acted with playing them. I would have showed off more than what they did.
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
@@greenbean2222 Yeah I'd personally take the other build over the E3 demo, although having both would be a-ok for me too haha. I feel like we've only seen the tip of the iceberg with that other build. I'd like to dig in to the files and see what's in there as well as the E3 demo to potentially see more unused content and such.
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
@The Four Horsemen refer to 3:51 in the video.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 5 лет назад
Add to MCC with what thier doing with map editor thing for Halo: Combat Evolved.
@cakeboss4194
@cakeboss4194 5 лет назад
I'd say our best bet would be the overall map, geometry, and scripting notes being released, and given to the H2 pc modders to see what they can do with it, without having to wrestle with the older engine.
@ozarkfannumba1906
@ozarkfannumba1906 5 лет назад
Awesome to wake up to this video in my RU-vid feed. I loved Halo 2 and waited every day until it's mid night release in Nov 2004. Its so cool of them to show these old builds off. cheers
@halowarrior1000
@halowarrior1000 5 лет назад
I knew the warthog run playspace actually went through the bit you walk through in the opening. You pass the tents and the marines who were in there despawn. I remember thinking as a kid that the environments would be much more alive and that it was an evolution of the backtracking earlier on. Except that the playspaces would evolve as you backtrack and loop through past playspaces. I'd still love to see something like that in a new halo game.
@digtalfear1177
@digtalfear1177 5 лет назад
That's awesome that they went back and played these builds of the game again! Hopefully one day we can get our hands on these builds and mess around with the the levels ourselves. Great video!
@darkbooger
@darkbooger 5 лет назад
I still have the original Xbox and Halo 2. I'm proud I kept it in such good condition.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 5 лет назад
Still got mine. In fact I got two of each. 😂
@CFunk99
@CFunk99 5 лет назад
The quality in your Halo videos is always very high.
@T0mBr1dg3
@T0mBr1dg3 2 года назад
1:19 never knew they wanted to add leaning around corners to H2, so I guess it wasn’t an idea they came up with for H3 (at least in its alpha version)
@Goldpanda94
@Goldpanda94 5 лет назад
It's interesting that the untextured geometry you mention for the E3 build looks like a food stall and in the EarthCity unfinished level, you can see storefront on the sidewalk next to the streets. Whereas on the release version of Metropolis there aren't any storefronts or food vendors. It would have made the city feel more lived in IMO if they were included. It also looks like the EarthCity level took place at night or dusk
@majorchief8424
@majorchief8424 5 лет назад
Great analysis! Hopefully they do more like this so we can see Sentinel HQ and a bunch of others!
@InvadeleYogurt
@InvadeleYogurt 5 лет назад
The stream was just awesome. Thank you for the analysis!
@TheMastroAntonio
@TheMastroAntonio 5 лет назад
Neat! Thanks for summarizing this for us.
@pistolmoth4198
@pistolmoth4198 4 года назад
I remember I had this demo on a CD when I was little. It hyped me up so much for Halo 2. The game was pretty different, but my God I didn't care. Halo 2 still ended up being amazing.
@JohnDoe-zq1ho
@JohnDoe-zq1ho 4 года назад
I don’t think you did lol. Nobody had it. It was for E3 and these guys had to jump through hoops and only got it because they’re work at 343i.
@pistolmoth4198
@pistolmoth4198 4 года назад
@@JohnDoe-zq1ho I for sure did. It was a silver disc from Best Buy. There were a number of trailers on it, including a playback of the demonstration used during e3.
@Purplox
@Purplox 2 года назад
@@pistolmoth4198 funny guy
@I_SEV_I
@I_SEV_I 2 года назад
my favorite aspect of the E3 mission has got to be that skybox, it looks so much better than the one we got for mombasa.
@evantripp2933
@evantripp2933 5 лет назад
Thank you Vadam!
@Unordinal
@Unordinal 5 лет назад
It'd be awesome if these builds were ever uploaded - I'm pretty sure there's an Xbox emulator out there somewhere that could run them, right?
@OfficialREVENGEMusic
@OfficialREVENGEMusic 5 лет назад
Yeah. CXBX Reloaded. I've been playing jet set radio on it.
@hiphopaDIZZL
@hiphopaDIZZL 5 лет назад
lol i think you would need an og xbox dev kit to run it, no emulator has the right bios for it if im correct
@OfficialREVENGEMusic
@OfficialREVENGEMusic 5 лет назад
@@hiphopaDIZZL cxbxr doesnt need bios to run so hypothetically you could run it.
@Hakuru15
@Hakuru15 5 лет назад
FUCK YES I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
@jonathanstoffel8602
@jonathanstoffel8602 5 лет назад
Awesome, thank you for this. I been out of the loop for awhile now. Halo 2 is still today my favorite out of the main games, its special and just had/has so many epic things about it and it was cool to view the story from the Covenant side no doubt and much more. Just like many of you, i remember back in 03 watching the gameplay demo for H2 and the hype was INSANE! and i was also bummed this didnt make the final product due to technical issues etc even though some of the scripting etc can be noticed in the mission Metropolis. Man the memories. This could of easily been the third Earth mission if done right before Regret does his slipspace, hencing the sun lower in the sky and the darker lighting atmosphere, the 2 missions on Earth wasnt enough! And the tagline was soo misleading, 3 missions on Earth would of been great then we could of cut the The Arbiter. (Just came across your channel *sub*) + your voice isnt annoying/immature like other some other YTers on here. thank you again bro. I hope we all Halo fans get this someday.
@InertBrian
@InertBrian 5 лет назад
Great summary video!
@marlmyanimationoutlet3934
@marlmyanimationoutlet3934 4 года назад
Damn, I was hoping we'd see something about that triple melee combo Chief did before he hijacked the ghost in that demo. What that was about and all.
@jrlgarage
@jrlgarage 5 лет назад
Now I want to see one on Halo Wars, looked completely different
@zalk256
@zalk256 Год назад
I find it interesting that there are still files from Halo 2 that call Arbiter "Dervish."
@Mangko
@Mangko 3 года назад
7:29 if you look closely, you can see the Halo 3 Da Vinci Code Object (UV Map Grid) texture.
@chickenmotherhalo
@chickenmotherhalo 3 года назад
Fascinating!
@chrishansen7004
@chrishansen7004 5 лет назад
i really hope they release this online for people to try... modders could really fix the game up
@soktherat777
@soktherat777 5 лет назад
Pretty cool stuff. Some of this I never knew.
@TheMonkeyThatDoesYourJobBetter
@TheMonkeyThatDoesYourJobBetter 3 года назад
I just wanna add a point to the warthog sequence in the demo. Perhaps the warthogs weren’t literally meant to be driven by the AI marines in the retail version. Maybe the self driving marines were meant to be only a set piece sequence which explains why you couldn’t leave the warthog or you couldn’t fire at and blow up your ally’s warthog. Just think of it as the set piece sequence in the mission Quarantine zone when you’re on the gondola racing the humans to get the index. The warthog the marine was driving you around in the E3 demo acted as a gondola sequence as you gunned down covenant forces in the city using the gauss cannon. The sequence conveniently ends right when the brute swats the marines out of the warthog. That would explain why the driving AI scripting is a little choppy because maybe audiences were expecting the marines to literally drive you around on their own. So Bungie set to implement an expectation with technology that was barely there.
@siphillis
@siphillis Месяц назад
You can see both why they were so reluctant to abandon their vision in this build, but also why when they did they had no option but to scrap everything. The ideas were awesome, but the execution was really just the result of tight scripting that would've required a ton of hours just to produce a very restrictive sandbox
@destronlaserwave9566
@destronlaserwave9566 5 лет назад
Will you do beta videos on Halo 1, 4, and 5? Also there were some things you missed in the previous videos I would love if you went in depth! Like maybe go through the final game's files. But I love the channel and it's a joy whenever you upload!
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
I plan to do as many as possible, and I do plan to do a build for CE as well as Halo 4's Private Beta and Reach's Public Beta. However, 5's will most likely not happen for a very long time because we can't run it anymore on the Xbox One due to the fact it can't be modified.
@jonestergaming7004
@jonestergaming7004 5 лет назад
why do devs never show what everyone wants to see?
@Those2menoverthere
@Those2menoverthere 4 года назад
They were kind of pressed for time. I wish they would run it back with direct capture at some point and more in-depth looks at things.
@iBravoArbiter
@iBravoArbiter 5 лет назад
Oh my God! This is so damn cool :)
@karterwood6613
@karterwood6613 5 лет назад
Any chance for a full analysis of the halo 4 beta? Love your videos, keep it up
@BF2042Pro
@BF2042Pro 5 лет назад
Wish there was a download for this would be interesting to play
@AltSierra117
@AltSierra117 5 лет назад
Great video!
@WhiteInk47
@WhiteInk47 3 года назад
They should legitimately polish the demo and these levels up and add them into MCC. It would be literally the coolest thing ever.
@DaDARKPass
@DaDARKPass 4 года назад
FINALLY! I found someone else who likes quarantine zone.
@TheItalianoAssassino
@TheItalianoAssassino 2 года назад
can someone reupload the full VOD to yt since mixr is dead??
@HollyVanHart
@HollyVanHart 5 лет назад
💜 Thanks for sharing! 🌹 👏🏻 💗
@BrandonBreezeyVirgo
@BrandonBreezeyVirgo 5 лет назад
Why don’t they show us that one deleted halo level where you drive a boat with a turret in the back basically the water hog also assassinations on hunters in halo 3.
@GhosTSpartaNFtW34
@GhosTSpartaNFtW34 2 года назад
I want to play this halo 2
@BoomiestBomb
@BoomiestBomb 3 года назад
This will never happen, but it would be fucking kickass if they ported the lighting engine here to current Halo 2.
@deeprajyaguru1913
@deeprajyaguru1913 5 лет назад
R93 sniper also streamed on yt
@MishraArtificer
@MishraArtificer 4 месяца назад
Y'know...now that the MCC has made it to PC, has there been any movement towards releasing this to the public? Might be a fun challenge for modders to slip this back into the game, a la The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod for Knights of The Old Republic II...
@shaheer1172
@shaheer1172 3 месяца назад
The modders are porting this into halo 2 as we speak. We should know more about it sometime in 2024
@KnoxCarbon
@KnoxCarbon 4 года назад
When they said the Xbox couldn't handle the engine they were using, they weren't kidding. That looked like a single digit framerate there.
@m.infernal
@m.infernal 5 лет назад
Why dont the just release it and let modders finish it?
@heyyoumewtwo4801
@heyyoumewtwo4801 5 лет назад
This is epic
@Paddy656
@Paddy656 5 лет назад
Those graphics, man.
@Chinfu-gb8sk
@Chinfu-gb8sk 5 лет назад
I hope they release this demo to be playable on pc or some sort
@daklr2501
@daklr2501 5 лет назад
WHERE IS MY FORERUNNER TANK!?
@TheMonkeyThatDoesYourJobBetter
You forgot to mention that the Jackals shields, and some geometry up close are not fully textured.
@saintsrobbed6450
@saintsrobbed6450 4 года назад
I'd like to see the Halo Reach alpha build gameplay
@WonderMePartyStrip
@WonderMePartyStrip 5 лет назад
Stupid Frank. Taking credits for this when at the time he was the janitor of the site.
@skaboodlydoodle
@skaboodlydoodle 4 года назад
once H2MCC drops I desperately want the mod community to recreate this level. We can change history! lol
@OfficialREVENGEMusic
@OfficialREVENGEMusic 3 года назад
Mixer RIP
@TheSurvival2012
@TheSurvival2012 5 лет назад
Hey ...you are back... Hola cómo estás? Quieres unos tacos? De pastor o de bistec?
@WhereThe40z
@WhereThe40z 5 лет назад
Wish the second demo was leaked
@brendanrourke9418
@brendanrourke9418 Год назад
How did they managed to get the E3 demo?
@trashgamer5434
@trashgamer5434 5 лет назад
It would be cool if there was a way to finish those missions that weren't added in, or at least make them more polished to see what they were like for ourselves.
@greenbean2222
@greenbean2222 5 лет назад
If the betas were leaked online, I'd be able to take them into maya and mess around with them and more. I'd probably prefer to go onto use Halo 2's map editor and just recreating it as accurately as possible or try porting the map as is to H2visa.
@ASpaceDino
@ASpaceDino 5 лет назад
Yeet
@Hunter-jo8ud
@Hunter-jo8ud 4 года назад
Ive understand why you couldnt keep your dual weapons while driving a vehicle etc.
@internetmom5286
@internetmom5286 5 лет назад
*_Veggie 🖤_*
@Jimmy_Sullivan
@Jimmy_Sullivan 5 лет назад
You forgot to mention the sprint.
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
Idk if that really was sprint or not that we saw in the stream. It had animations according to Gamecheat13's video on the subject matter.
@Crudmonkey211
@Crudmonkey211 5 лет назад
I miss old Bungie.
@JoseMarquez-kv3vw
@JoseMarquez-kv3vw 5 лет назад
Ummm wouldnt it be Bungie?? 343 didnt come around till after Reach
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
343 streamed this recently, not Bungie.
@Starlesslemon
@Starlesslemon 4 года назад
Why would they record with a fucking camera like it's 2003?
@handlessuck589
@handlessuck589 4 года назад
UGH
@jayjeetkataria8387
@jayjeetkataria8387 5 лет назад
PLEASE do Halo reach beta?!!!!!
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 5 лет назад
I plan to, relatively soon.
@WTFShawski
@WTFShawski 5 лет назад
The game people want. The game they are not going to get. Maybe with rg lootboxes
@orleander8865
@orleander8865 5 лет назад
OwO
@HaydenG230
@HaydenG230 5 лет назад
420th view
@heyitshalo2925
@heyitshalo2925 5 лет назад
Not gonna lie halo 2 was ass the engine was held up by duct tape the campaign ended on a cliff hanger and the multiplayer was stupid broken
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