You mention the beam rifles "teething problems". Reminded me of a conversation I had with an old Wing King (Who strangely enough is still in uniform two decades later). "It's either new enough that they haven't worked out all the kinks, or everything is finally perfectly designed and the whole damn thing is useless and obsolete." Wise man.
I feel that this idiom holds true for anything being described as a "superweapon" especially. Submarine-launched torpedoes had major teething issues, self-loading rifles had major teething issues lasting decades, jets had major teething issues, A2A missiles practically started out as mass-produced prototypes so they had tons of issues, etc. etc. Edit: And that definitely fits with the beam rifle paradigm. The Federation at first demanded a weapon capable of downing space battleships but in a mobile suit sized package, and capable of firing multiple times before rearmament was required. They truly wanted the moon and the sky on a silver platter...for their first ever handheld mobile suit weapon. During a survival war that they were currently losing. Absolutely mad lol, of course the beam rifle project was going to have issues, resulting in the Spray Gun and that awful (but reliable) ballistic machine gun being mass-produced instead.
My headcanon on the thunderbolt Gundam and why it much better than the others full armor Gundam is that in the manga the Moore Brotherhood made multiple huge donations/bribes to the federation to get an custom order Gundam.
Also it's a space only Gundam, so gravity and air resistance and shit is a non issue It's just a bunch of extra bits and trusters slapped onto an otherwise normal RX-78-2 Strip off the armor and backpack and it's just a Gundam
I know we’re talking mostly about the MSV version…but i cannot not think about that funky freeform jazz. "The difference is night and day, so this…is a Gundam!" Cue devious smirk.
I would still be screaming about how badly we need a Gundam game that lets you really go off like the FA does in Thunderbolt, but Armored Core 6 finally came out and you can basically build the FA, soo lol
It fits perfectly within the scope of Feddie arrogance doesn't it? Boldly lazy and unimaginative. As few Fs given as possible to probably get the job done.
1:27 I know Thunderbolt UC isn't Canon with the Actual UC but you could BS an excuse that 'Oh the Thunderbolt Full Armor Gundam was the Realization of the Original Plan before it was sent somewhere else when the Federation realized that Newtypes exist. And the OTHER Full Armor Gundam was made from that.
Excellent work! Fantastic video! However, there is something cool you should have mentioned about the Full Armor System. In “Gundam Walpurgis” and in “Gundam F90FF” we see that the Full Armor equipment can be also mounted to GM’s and GM III’s. The TRX-007 Delphinium uses a Modifed GM for its core unit. One that has been outfitted with a full armor Gundam’s gear + the Gundam Alex’s face mask (the mask that appears on the recent MG). Plus, in F90FF, there is a group of mercenaries that use customized GM III’s that also use the full armor Gundam’s gear.
One thing I've always wanted to see is the FA Gundam's "failure" worked into active fiction, such as Amuro being sent into battle with the FA parts slapped onto the Gundam after being "approved" by test pilots who only had tank experience as opposed to MS exprience, with Amuro's agility-oriented piloting being more hampered by the FA configuration than anything and being forced to jettison it just to survive. I don't know, thoughts.
One interesting thing about The Origin is that there appears to be a sort of Full Armor-adjacent GM variant that appears in the background at A Baoa Qu. There's a picture of it on the wiki page for the Origin GM, it doesn't have a name or a description listed but we can see that it has the trademark double beam rifle along with extra leg thrusters, missile pods (almost the same as the ones used by the Doan's Island GM) and some kind of weapon on the left forearm that could either be a beam saber, a large vulcan or a small beam gun like the one found on the MP Nu Gundam. Pretty cool GM which I hope gets more attention in the future!
I really, really hope that the next part will cover the RGM-86RF•FA GM III Powered Full Armor (Bulldog), even just a smidge, since it's effectively the actual implementation of the FA-78-1...
3:07 "It will keep cold things cold and warm things warm for up to 24 hours." After that it can keep cold things warm and warm things cold indefinitely.
So there's a funny thing, the whole reason I love the Full Armor system is because of the first viz release of Gundam The Origin, the Gundam Battle Assault, and the lack of Wikipedia like sites in the early 2000s. I wanted to learn more about the RX-78-1 and it's giant shoulder Cannon that was in the first volume of the Origin manga. I look online, Wikipedia didn't exist yet and either MAHQ didn't have info about The Origin at the time or I was just too dumb to find it, but the only RX-78-1 I could find was the black anime version which lacked a shoulder cannon. The only 78-1 I could find with a shoulder cannon was the Full Armor Gundam. This got me to remember the "Full Armor Double Zet Gundam" from Gundam Battle Assault, which was the only suit I could actually beat the game with at the time. Next thing I know I'm buying a model kit for the Alex because it had an Armored mode and I'm getting disappointed that Gundam Crossfire and the Dynasty Warriors Gundam games never had a Full Armor suit in them (not counting the temporary magic Armor mode the Knight Gundam had in Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3).
Semi related: The Double Beam Rifle mounted on the arm of the GM Dominance and (sometimes) the Blue Destiny Unit 3 is almost the exact same as the Full Armor RX-78’s, sans the scope and with slight design variation. This is never acknowledged, but I feel like it is definitely intentional.
There is a chance, very slim but it is there, that the "NewType Corps" with Full Armor Gundams might have been the Unit in 0081 with FA 78 3 Full Armor 7th Gundams, since that is basically what many describe. Though it is difficult to completely believe this since, side by side, it would be pretty hard to confuse the FA 78 1 with the FA 78 3. The other FA 78 "1s" (303 and 400) could have been later used for the Mudrock, Solomon express (as a concept but rejected as we know it) or even some concept borrowed for the Gundam Alex Full Armor (if it was built).
There's something similar in my school vr game in the form of the Demonic buster project for Infected Goalius (there were a lot of ideas for the weaponry and armour but the Lute set up was the one that was chosen, the armour is extremely strong and tough while being equipped with special generators that lightens him and the armour, the weapons were modified with 2 7 barrelled Angelic energy cannons, 2 Angelic short swords and an in case of emergency, Angelic steel infused kevlar gloves that has sowed in Angelic brace knuckles) but the problem was he was in 3 battles and got cured
I see you're still talking about this "game" of yours. Again, when will we see it? Who is developing it? How long was it in development? With so little info and so much random stuff that you said, I'm now sure that you're just making all of this up. If it is real, then show some screenshot, or game footage. And, no, don't give me that spiel about how the game is supposed to be a secret. If it is supposed to be a secret, then you wouldn't be here talking about it.
I believe the full armor gundam was a separate variation rather than borrowing directly from the RX-78 model. The core block system could be a non combat type only meant to separate the torso and the legs for maintenance and not for combat like the OG model. Theres no way to separate the full armor parts outside of a hanger or a maintenance bay.
I actually agree with that, because that's essentially what the Heavy Gundam is. So maybe the Full Armor Gundam was actually a spare body non combat type that they made and immediately realized the flaws. So instead of fully scrapping it for spare parts they used it for maintenance then got the bright idea to try taking the Core Block System out. A lot of R&D and completely replacing all the parts of the Gundam that would be underneath and that created the Heavy Gundam Unit 1-3, 8 Months too late to be used.
Could’ve mentioned the Heavy Gundam I feel, it’s essentially the most successful design to have come out of the FSWS project, with three confirmed produced units. The Feddies realised that most plans of adding additional armour to a pre-existing suit (rx-78-2) were all but feasible, and that making an armoured unit _with_ the desired firepower from the ground up was the way to go. Loved it’s appearance in RoJR, with Ingrid 0 piloting it.
There's also the version of the Full Armor Gundam that appeared in Kazuhisa Kondo's Gundam 0079 manga. It was equipped on Amuro's RX-78-2 for one sortie, but the equipment was quickly destroyed during battle with the Zakrello. One notable thing about this version is that it carried a pair of large missiles on its shield instead of extra BR barrels
Both options for what the FSWS abbreviation could stand for are bad. It should just be "Full armor Suit and Weapon System." That just works better for me.
Sees the FA Thunderbolt Gundam. *Jazz intensifies immensely.* My go-to space raid in its native and 550 cost in Battle Operations 2. Also, it's one of my favorite designs when it comes to a FA designated Gundam.
In Kazuhisa Kondo's MSG 0079 manga, the armor was developed for, and used by Amuro's RX-78-2. In that manga, F.S.W.S. stood for "Full Strike Weapon System."
In recent years Sunrise/Bandai setting has been massively expanded the number of RX-78 series. There were at least some 30 RX-78 has been completed during the OYW.
A theory for where they got a Gundam for the FA version, they didn't! I submit for your consideration that the FA Gundam is in fact a GM with the FA pack. Think about it, the additional armor and thrusters would have improved the durability of the GM inside and they could have always used a more powerful powerplant to help power it. The GM is basically just a watered down Gundam, so why not slap some more armor/weapons/thruster on it and give it a Gundam head and you have a impromptu Gundam.
meanwhile the Full Armor Gundam also inspired the Command Gundam from the SD Command series as in he is a sentient SD Gundam that smokes cigars because he is a parody of 80's Hollywood action movie protagonists despite not having a humanoid mouth to smoke said cigars.
One of these days I'll be able to afford a Burstliner for my HG Psycho Gundam Full Burst. Then I just have to figure out how to build the Haro rack and the new shield.
I am leaning towards at least one FA-78-1 unit being actually built and experiencing combat during the war or shortly after simply because of how much of a legacy Full Armor left. There's numerous other Full Armor concepts, including as part of FSWS Project that simply wouldn't make much sense if the foundation for their concept wasn't deemed credible. And then there's the other things, like Dendrobium being an evolution of the same idea or Full Armor and Full Armor-adjacent upgrade concepts for later machines like Mk-II, ZZ, Nu or even V2.
My headcannon is that the design was shelved, but then just a bit before the end of the war Jaburo received the report on the Apsalus, and without the knowledge that its data went down with it, suddenly the heavier armor and firepower seemed like it might be necessary after all
The main (real-world) source that stated that the Full Armor Gundam WAS built before watching this video was Mobile Suit Gundam: Encounters in Space on the PS2. When playing as Anavel Gato during the battle of A Baoa Qu, you run into a Full Armor Gundam that you have to beat with your Gelgoog.
i like to think that full armor gundam outter thing exist and was plan to give to amuro. but when amoro said that he want more speed. the fed just went like "welp" and just hand the peice to some gm on earth which result in some people see "full armor gundam"
Perhaps the FA Gundam was indeed made but the Federation kept it a secret even after it was destroyed because it had many performance issues with the weight. If the creation of the FA Gundam was confirmed and all the truth surrounding it came out, Zeon and AE would have a good laugh at the Federation's failure to create a Gundam that had good armor and heavy firepower. Thus, the Feds spread rumors and used the FA Gundam in propaganda material to help hide the truth.
I definitely would love to get my hands on a model of the full armor Gundam type b, and if I absolutely have to I will just get my hands on the entry grade RX 78 2 and build the extra armor from scratch on the arms, shoulders, and legs as well as the triple barrel beam gun the little shield on the left arm and the cannons on the backpack and because I do own a dual Gundam assault shroud I can just take the measurements from that and adjust them as needed for the chest armor my main issue will be figuring out how to paint it
16:00 @kakarot197 I always thought the RX-78-1's remaining undamaged parts were used as spares to repair Unit 2/Amuro's machine with. I swear there was even a throwaway quote in the show where they mention the fate of units 1 and 3, but it has been too long since I've seen it. If that's the case, then the FA Gundam couldn't have been made with the original RX-78-1 as the base suit. Tbh, I'd just assumed that beyond the OG Gundam units, any subsequent prototypes were made as new units. This would solve any canonicity issues I can think of, and it would make sense for subsequent prototype models to be designed with new internals, so that new cutting-edge reactor, frame, sensor, etc. designs can continue to be tested under the Gundam monicker. Also, the V-project preceded GM production while the FA project seems like it would've been post-GM, it would make sense for subsequent designs to use parts/learn lessons from the V project (where feasible, since the V units were so costly) and GM production both imo.
