FURIOSA FLOPS HARD... AND WOMEN ARE TO BLAME? MAD MAX IS DEAD! | REEL SHIFT 

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a movie being a flop doesn’t always necessarily mean it’s bad. ( and being a high success doesn’t always mean it’s a really good.) By this logic, Blade Runner 2049 is a terrible movie and Captain Marvel is a masterpiece.

I personally just don't go see movies in the theater anymore. The overall quality of movies now pales in comparison to movie released even 10 years ago. Since the lockdowns movies now are ending up on VOD 3-6 weeks after opening in theaters, this really hurts the good movies, because a family of 4 or more people can watch it at home for $20 or go to the theater and spend $100 and the only inconvenience is having to wait a few weeks. Hollywood has repeatedly told fans of their franchises that our opinions don't matter, and that's fine, but they shouldn't act shocked when people opt to not buy their product. Hollywood likes to muddy the waters with their movie titles, the Furiosa movies name has Mad Max in it and this may shock you but a lot of movie goers don't always research the movie they attend, and I guarantee at least some people will be surprised Max isn't part of the film. At this point a lot of people are just done with Hollywood as a whole. Apathy has set in and a significant group of people just don't care anymore, people are now routing for Hollywood to fail, to them the entertainment isn't movies and tv shows, it's watching the trainwreck that is Hollywood run off the rails. It really feels like the end of an era, very sad.

Men were blamed for Birds of Prey not doing well when it was a mostly male audience.

This may be controversial to some, but I think the only way a new Mad max movie would be a HUGE hit (even Fury Road wasn't a megahit, it barely broke even at the box office) is if Mel Gibson returned to the role. To the general audience, he is pretty much retired from acting, because people in general have no idea about those staight to streaming geezer teasers he's done the past years. So, the studio would be able to market it as the return of the original Mad Max and Gibson's epic return to acting at the same time, to the role that made him famous. Gibson isn't THAT old yet so he could pull it off as kind of an Unforgiven-type "one last ride" role. Of course that's not gonna happen because big studios are afraid to hire him for his past mistakes, especially in these sensitive modern times. But deep down, the studios know this, and Miller knows this (especially after this weekends results). The vast majority of the audience is already men (women don't care about these movies no matter who the lead is) so taking Gibson back wouldn't alienate the already mostly male audience and I think there's a large group of older men who don't care about Furiosa as a character and to them Gibson is the only one who would bring them to the theater. Fury Road is a masterpiece, Furiosa was an okay film, and a Mad Max film made in the style of those but with Gibson back in the role as the vengeful old road warrior going for his one last ride would be epic and an emotional climax to the whole saga.

I agree with you. This movie doesn't appeal to a wide enough audience. I brought my 3 kids to see this in IMAX, My 2 sons didn't like it, and my girl did (but it's not a movie she would have chosen to see with her friends) and my wife decided not to watch this. So out of a family of 5, basically I was the only one who really liked it. Compare to Top Gun Maverick, my whole family liked it because it's a feel good movie & definitely appealed to a much wider audience. The primary reason why Fury Road did much better is the same reason why Top Gun Maverick did well: Both iconic franchises took so long to come out (30+ yrs) that people were at least curious about it, plus Fury Road was such a huge upgrade from its predecessors that many people got sucked into seeing it just out of curiosity. I also think a female lead might have alienated some tradtional die-hard action junkies who still prefer macho men in these stereotypical male lead roles. As a matter of fact, I read some reviews of Fury Road & some viewers were already turned off by Charlie Theron outshining Max, so those viewers definitely aren't coming back to see Furiosa. One last thing: this Bidenomics inflation is really eating into the average family's discretionary spending Ina big way. So in conclusion, it come down to this: die-hard action junkies who don't mind female led movies & unaffected by the stagflationary economy came out to see Furiosa: definitely a small crowd.

This is Kill Bill all over again, people hated Vol2 cause they wanted the same movie made all over again, this is gonna be another dredd situation a bomb at the box office, but it will be appreciated when everyone can watch it , luckily George Miller is too old to give a fk at this point

I saw the film and Furiosa was just another tiresome Mary Sue protagonist.

No, they actually need mad max so much that they had to include “a mad max saga” bro, they literally attempted to make her the new plot point for HIS franchise

I hope Furiosa does well nevertheless. I have really enjoyed the movie, Miller is such a visionary film maker, you cannot ignore how well thought his concept of story telling is. The movie is a visual treat and Anya is brilliant, the whole cast is brillant. Talking about cash grab, half of the trailers i had to endure before the movie starts were reboots or remake. I was so annoyed when the trailer for "The Crow" came up: there is absolutely nothing in it, no substance, no emotions, nothing; it's utterly pointless. Can't wait for the 30th anniversary screening of the originial one at my local cinema though! 🤘

People are becoming very piticular about what they wanna see in theaters. With tickets becoming more expensive, now a days is that it has to be an event film like... 1. Scream 7 2. Deadpool and Wolverine 3. Beetlejuice 2 4. Joker 2 5. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 6. Superman 7. Jurassic World 8. Mission Impossible 8 9. Terrifier 3 10. Five Nights at Freddy's 2

I too was confused by a mad max movie without mad max in it. But we went out to the theatre as a family the other day and absolutely loved it! I generally agree with the whole being tired of the whole female protagonist thing - especially as it pertains to superhero movies - but I never even thought about this movie that way at all (just thought strange no mad max etc), because Miller doesn’t give a crap about big studios and business- he just wants to create his vision. And he absolutely kills it here. Furthermore, never does he try and make us believe she is stronger than any of the men in this movie. She is cunning and uses tact at times - but relies on men to help her, and completely gets run over (literally sometimes) when face to face physically . As well, Hemsworth’s villain completely takes over the movie in an over the top juicy performance! Loved the film. Great night out at the movies!💪 PS - I haven’t watched Cap’n Marvel films or Mdm Webb - nor will I. I’ve also long ago stopped bothering with Star Wars (and all the related series) because of this forced pandering to force feed us female heroes, and a token (insert race / sexual identity here) person from every demographic everywhere, to the point of being laughable. This wasn’t the case with the Furiosa movie. It was a strong action movie on its own merits.

I didn't mind the movie, there was a couple of plot slips like why didn't Immortan Joe ever realize she escaped from his women's birthing chambers after Rictus attacked her? None of the movies have ever come close to Mad Max The Road Warrior though.

Fact is, while it may not, technically, be Mad Max movie it still comes across as one average movie goer is going too assume it is. Mad Max movie without Mad Max. Also even though Furiosa isn't a girlboss that mary Sue type character has been shoved down people's throats for years thus, potentionally, tarnishing women in action movies for a very long time. Oh and that budget is insane

Totally agree with you man. Fury road was a great film but the studio were disappointed by the box office return, 380 million against a budget of 173 million. I think furiosa will continue to under perform and do less than fury road. Both movies are great..just like the first 3 mad max films.

I'm going to make a couple of points here. Firstly, I also LOVED this movie. And, for me at least, the biggest reason for that is of Anya Taylor Joy. I think this was a great showcase of her talent as an actress. When you look at the movies, and very different types of movies, that she's done, it's amazing. She's been in horror (The Witch), period pieces (Emma), mystery/thriller (The Menu), to name a few, and she's amazing in anything she does which really shows her talent and range as an actress. Secondly, I know people are considering this as massive flop at (last I read) $31 million for the weekend, BUT it still was #1 at the box office, which does show that people just weren't coming out to the movies this weekend for anything. I do TOTALLY agree that the Mad Max movies may not appeal to everyone, especially since we've been inundated with dystopian future movies, but I think there may have been other factors as well (that had nothing to do with a female lead) For example, I live in New England where the weather was amazing for most of the weekend (Fri - Sun) and people were at all the New England beaches this weekend. In the mid-west there were tornados that effected 10's of millions of people, so there were enormous amounts of people that just weren't going to the movies for various different reasons. I know it's easy to bust on a big budget movie that doesn't perform like expected, but sometimes we need to look at everything.

Look on the bright side. Furiosa bombing might be a blessing in disguise. Granted it would be a shame if Miller never gets to make The Wasteland, BUT at the end of the day, maybe it's best the braindead masses think Mad Max sucks, that way hollywood won't keep pumping out endless sequals of it once Miller passes away. Us fans get to enjoy our 5 great movies at that point. Some of the best movies of all time bombed at the box office, The Thing is an excellent example, Blade Runner 2049 is another more recent movie that a ton of people complained about online and yet completely missed the point of the movie etc. Granted, I'm really hoping Miller gets to make The Wasteland or whatever it will be called, it's all planned out, here's hoping Miller just has to direct a few other movies to secure the budget, but who knows, be a shame if he doesn't seeing as he's never let anything compromise his vision so far! Fingers crossed!

I don't particularly like Fury Road so my expectations for Furiosa were low, but I was pleasantly surprised. She survives by her wits, rather than by beating up men 10x her size. And there is character development. And of course, there is Dementus. Chris Hemsworth really shines here, such a delight to watch.

"Why did they make a mad Max film without mad Max" is a perfectly valid question. If you don't like it take the mad Max out of the title because it makes zero sense.

the woke and girl boss era of movies are over. Hollywood will bankrupt itself trying to tell us otherwise. 🤣🤣🤣

It's funny because the girls I know and others I've interacted with went to watch Planet of the apes while 9ther girls wanna also see that but they never mentioned Furiosa

This girl boss garbage 🗑️ is getting old Where’s max hiding 🙈

The Problem is that it's a GOOD MOVIE, but the cultural momentum is AGAINST hollywood and Furiosa is simply the latest cannon fodder .

I also have to take issue with your statement: "it is advertised and presented as Furiosa story and nothing more" Well they should not have put A Mad Max Saga! They had no confidence to make it it's own thing despite it being so, they needed to grab the Mad Max fan and they failed despite how good this film is, which can translate to whether people liked it or not to simply the people wanting a Mad Max film not a character in his universe. Hollywood created this, the fans have a right to feel how they want to feel and those Mad Max fans would probably wait for streaming. This film has good word of mouth, and critically acclaimed yet it still failed, that means a lot. I personally think this movie should have been the follow up to Fury Road.

No surprise. Mad max is already a niche even though it’s really good. Putting furiosa as the main character wasn’t going to end in high monetary gain at the theater. Should have just gone right to streaming but they had the notion that it may make money over the holiday weekend……wrong

Cannot wait to watch it on streaming in about 3 weeks 😅 The main chick isn't a badass, simple, her story was somewhat interesting in fury road but that's about it. I knew the movie was gonna flop after the first trailer, with Tom Hardy in the main role this would have been a much better box office result imo.

Most people don't care anymore about endless reboots, that is what most of it is. Some of it is that many are just sick and tired of Hollywood and their BS. Take your pick.

I have no faith in Disney’s Blade! Also, they wanna ruin Wesley’s version if that multiverse rumor is true!

It failed because there was no Max, period.

It's a damn shame that Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga is flopping so hard at the box office. One, because the movie is awesome and deserves to do well and Two, because now we may not ever get a proper sequel to Mad Max: Fury Road. I hope Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga at least does well overseas and on DVD and streaming and eventually becomes a cult classic just like the older Mad Max films.

All I can say is, shit happens. Furiosa happened. That's about it.

Grifter Joe had me dying, lmao!

People aren’t trusting of cinema in general anymore. And overrated TikTok and streaming is ruining theatrical experiences.

It’s a brilliant film that makes Fury Road better. The 2 films make for an epic masterpiece.

A MAD MAX film without Max Rockatansky ? Whats next, a James Bond flim with Miss Moneypenny ?

Furiosa was de-facto a good movie. it flopped not because of girlbossing, but because streaming is eliminating movie theaters. if there is no sort of rule for streamers to only release movies several months to an year after their release, the tendency is for movie theaters becoming a thing of the past. think, we all know dune was awesome, but the profits it had were relatively modest. movie theaters are dying, thats the truth.

I enjoyed the film, but I can understand why it's performing poorly. It's probably a combination of things, but I think that there just isn't enough interest from general audiences in Mad Max to justify a spinoff.

The Mad Max franchise is not dead, and we all love it. What most people don't like or want are female protagonists who "jump the shark", AND characters who are NOT Mad Max (EDIT) - [In a Mad Max movie, and if "its not a Mad Max movie" then don't use the name in the title of the movie]. And this movie has both, so there you go. It's not that difficult to understand.

Fury road had a soft opening. But had legs. I expect this film will be in theaters longer.

Not a 4 quadrant movie. I have seen Fury road. Great action but no depth. I liked the Mel Gibson movies because he always interacted with people and was a hero. Plus what I liked about those movies was they were Australian. Charlize and Tom are American and British as well as Nick Holt. This movie has another American as the star. Probably one of the reasons she doesn't talk much. Hemsworth hams up the Aussie accent. Furiosa's mum is an Aussie. It just moves away from the origins too much.

Sometimes some people said the stupidest comments Furiosa is not a cash grab it’s really good a good storytelling and really cares bout her journey and she’s not a Mary Sue yes I agree with you already they made thier mind up before even comes out very toxic to me in my opinion and you not getting paid you just be completely honest

So many people are just paroting what they heard on certain larger channels. Instead of checking out a movie that theyed end up loving.

Great movie box office numbers are irrelevant. Nobody's going back to the theater in droves. Just not happening anymore. Doesn't matter if it's a female cast a male cast an alien cast a kitty cat cast. It's all irrelevant and people ain't going to show up and sit in. No damn theater for 2 hours. Times have changed. They'll never go back. Ps. I thought it was the best movie I've seen in the past 5 years.

Overall, it wasn't horrible, but it wasn't very good. It was easily 40 minutes longer than it needed to be. The action was OK, but too drawn out. And then there is the CGI. I guess there was a CGI controversy which I never heard about before watching the movie. Independently I found the CGI to be distractingly bad, and it was everywhere. The crowds were CGI, the dogs were (mostly) CGI. War-boys jumping off the war wagon were CGI. I think this movie would have been much better if they had been forced to squeeze it into 1:30-1:40. The plot would have been tighter, the action scenes shorter and more intense.

The copium is strong with this one.

I'm starting to believe that these directors are making big budget flops on purpose for money laundering.

Been watching your videos for years now and even though I don't always agree with everything you say, I respect your opinion. You seem to have a real passion for film and you don't BS people. Thanks for the videos and keep being you.

Saw it & it was a good movie! Hopefully people give it a chance

A lot of people just assume it will be streaming a few weeks after release so they wait. It's annoying.

Telling people to watch Tik Tok videos is like telling people to watch reality shows.

This was Ana amazing film!! I loved everything about it.

Furiosa is awesome! I agree with you on the movie. It's a 9.3/10 for me, perhaps the highest score I gave to a movie in the past 2 years. I might also be in the minority here but I honestly prefer Furiosa to Fury Road. As for why it bombed, I would say yes old-school action is a dying/dead genre on the big screen, not to mention how bleak the movie's universe/premise is. In 2015 people from their relatively more comfortable and secure life probably found Fury Road exotic and exciting. But in 2024, after so much crap in the past few years in the real world, "post-apocalyptic wasteland" suddenly becomes all too real and too close for comfort. I also agree with you that this cultural war has ruined its prospect as its marketing does not appeal to either extremes. Also, people nowadays mostly want to go to theaters for a light good time with friends instead of seriously invest their emotion/intellect in a cinematic experience. If Lawrence of Arabia gets an IMAX re-releasing in theaters, I would be tempted to wear my suit to watch it. But alas, I am just an old-school weirdo.

It was to be expected. Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) wasn't a Box Office success back then. In fact, it flopped. Many casual viewers seemed to not really care for the Mad Max Franchise.

I loved fury road , I will go and see it no matter what negative things some people are saying. I like the mad max world regardless of mad max not being in this one.

I liked the movie it was bad ass. I like mad max, I like anaya, I went.

I know this is going to happen I was foreseen it it might be a good friend but yes he directed is a feminist yes the director did try to push feminism on us and remove marks from the movie he'll always like to edit the road because he didn't want to look like another male generic action movie but little do we know males we love those generic action movie from the 80s that's why we still watch them.

We need variety and not the same old recycled crap! Comic book films in a nutshell!

It was very simple. Miller should have made mad max wasteland with Tom Hardy as Max, in a proper Mad Max narrative film. That is what most Max fans and Fury Road fans wanted. Furiosa was already pretty much the lead in Fury Road, so this read as a retread minus the actual original actor in Theron. I’d say in the trailers as well the obvious cgi was not a good selling point. The trailers for this film showed very much that this movie was not going to be the same kind of cinematic achievement that Fury Road was.

It’s sad because Furiosa actually is a fantastic film! Great video, bro!

100% agree with your unbiased assessment of films.

Only reason I decided to wait for video was I heard most of the chases were CGI now, and all the advertisements have been using clips from Fury Road instead of the actual movie which set off my 'why don't they want to show the movie' combination.

Grifter Joe rockin' the mullet! Welcome to the party, pal! 😎💥💢

People are over sequels spin offs and rehashes . People really want good NEW stories, good and characters . Not mention Hollywood needs to prove they care again people aren’t in a hurry to spend money on a chance a sequel or spin off will good.

This movie isn't Rogue One or Solo. Its not a cash grab film. However, it is a Prequel making the stakes of the story smaller. We really don't need to see Furiosa's history. We understand he past from Fury Road. What I personally wanted to see is the Sequel to Fury Road. I wanna see more Max and Furiosa. Why wasn't Mad Max Wasteland this movie? I would go to see a Sequel, but Not a Prequel.

Not many people want to spend little fortune going to theatre when studio is going to throw it to a streaming service in less than two months.

You are so right on the spot about this. I am a huge Mad Max fan but I know it's a niche market so why the hell did Warner Bros think it would be a hit on Memorial Day? When Fury Road came out it was right before the backlash against females in predominant male IP's such as Ghostbusters and StarWars. Now about a decade later the damage is done and I saw this coming a mile away as to why most men were not interested. I never though doing a Furiosa movie was a great idea but damn I love that world. I still hold out for another film but I just don't know now.

😆 another Joe persona. We got us a Joeverse situation here!

Great video also a reason for people not get into the movie maybe was the excessive CGI.

It was really good but the first glass drags they could’ve made it 30 minutes ( her past)

Seen it & loved it. Its only been out a couple of days ffs!

It might recover from the budget for break even but I don't think it will cross 500 million USD.

Furiosa was awesome. I watched furiosa and then Fury road back to back and they blend together seamlessly. Great movie!

It wouldn't be the first time that a mediocre audience missed a good film - after seeing it, I certainly don't trust those trying to slam it. Box office numbers are no indication of film quality and the idea that this is somehow all about the title is a huge stretch. This movie delivers; it's not a "cash grab" and this situation is more a comment on the state of audiences than on the state of movies. It didn't fail because it had a substandard female protagonist (the writing and acting is very good), although it might well have failed because of some current audience bias against female protagonists in general. Either way, it's one of the few movies that I've seen this year that is actually worth seeing on the big screen, and I will see it again if I can.

They should just bring mel gibson back for the actual fourth movie, i dont care about a furiosa trilogy

My guess would be that some of them are actually voting with their wallets. Some people may felt scorned from the lack of quality from Hollywood, Disney, Marvel. Especially, when you're trying to bully me into supporting your movie by saying "I'm not a real black person" or "I'm a misogynist bigot". I'm just sitting here going "y'all DO KNOW y'all need us to watch your movie(s), right?" Other than that, I went to see Godzilla x Kong with some friends a month ago and we had a good time. I, actually, enjoyed the movie.

There is only 2 Mad Max movies like Alien,Terminator,Predator,RoboCop etc.I will stick with the oldskool because Im old and have left school 😂

Is it a good movie?Yes!That's all that matters!

I’m surprised it’s flopping. I liked it

i'm glad this movie is bombing-people are not as stupid as they think!

Glad you liked the film Joe. I have a differing view and guess what? I have no bad will towards you at all. Imagine that! 😂

Very, very well said. You have a new subscriber.

I liked it and it did not seem woke. It was too long though.

Love your unapologetic, I like what ,I like & you need no1 permission to tell you otherwise...btw I like the movie Furiosa too😎 it was good but not great 💯

I guarantee you if they made a movie about some male character of the MM franchise, no one would be saying “why did they make a mad max movie without mad max?”. It’s just people being triggered that it’s a chick. I’m not saying they’re wrong for being wary of a female protagonist because Hollywood loves putting women in roles and writing them badly, but come on. If the movie was about Immortan Joe none of these guys would be bitching. I like ATJ. I don’t think she’s had a bad role. I trust her enough that she won’t pick a badly written movie. Obviously I don’t know her and she could totally take a bad movie eventually, but I don’t see that happening at this point in time. That’s why I wasn’t afraid to see Furiosa.

I really loved this movie 2 I went seen this movie furiosa 2 times really pissed off this movie not doing good in the box office

This is pretty good commentary, nice work... (Personally, I think it's a Mad Max film without Mad Max.)

Well im a woman & showed up & showed out. Yep worse memorial day weekend opening since Casper. People thinking it was a Mad Max movie shows how people arent paying attention ALL the advertising says its Furiosa origin story...duh. I still think theyll make another mad max especially if they do wastelamd because that will be soley a Mad Max film. Start blocking people Joe BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED everyone.

I wanted to go see it but my 17 year old daughter just rolled her eyes and yawned when asked her to come along.... so yea, the target audience just arent interested. So I'll wait 3 months and just watch it on stream on my 85" TV in comfort... for less.

Wait I though that movie did good in the box office?

I miss the theatrical experience! I’m just tired of bad movie fatigue! The next movie I’m excited for is Quiet Place. Nothing else at the moment.

I don't think that Furiosa was all out bad, its that imagine if somebody did Batman: Stephanie Brown, a sequel to Batman: Wargames. Wargames has very little Batman in it and instead focuses on Stephanie struggle to bring Gotham back fron the edge. Then in the sequel to Wargames Batman: Stephanie Brown , Batman is not there and mentioned in passing.

I just watched it. I give it a 7 out of 10. I thought it was good, enjoyable film. The story kept me interested the characters were good. The only problem i had was the setting looked weird to me, it looked like most of the scenes were shot on a set with cgi. Everything else was very good imo. I had alot of fun personally, definitely recommend the film. I watched the original films on tv as a kid, but forgot about them. I'll see what they're about now as an adult. I'm very intrigued to see how good the series is overall. Good film to me

Liked it. But it wasnt great. When i left fury road i thought: a) i need to see that again. And i did. One week later. And b) i gotta buy this on physical. And I did. Furiosa? I was good with one viewing. I think they went for slow n methodoical, deeper, over balls to the wall.

I seen the film yesterday and Chris hemsworth as the villain was the best performance of any performance ever and George miller is a masterpiece I love the mad max films and writer producer and director GEORGE MILLER I love her story and how dark and her revenge story is great and I hope we get a sequel too fury road I still love going too the movies and I still buy dvd and blu rays because I’m a collector

The first question that a creator must ask is, 'Who is my target audience?' You can write whatever you want to write but if it doesn't capture the imagination of your target audience then you'll be a commercial failure. I'm going to see Furiosa and I expect it to be an interesting film but I understand that it wasn't the film that the fans wanted. The fans wanted a balls-to-the-wall Mad Max film. Furiosa isn't that film. It will still be light years above the utter garbage that Marvel shits out these days or the dross of feminist star Wars.

CGI hair at the end was horrible and some cgi scenes was so bad let’s be honest. I think if it used wayyyy less cgi it would’ve jumped off

Maaan u more like Reel BULL Shift

Where did you get that hat?

TikTok and streaming is totally ruining theatrical experiences I miss the good old days that you can enjoy a experience at the movies without someone ruining it on TikTok or Snapchat.

This movie kicked ass. Furiosa earned her way thru that movie and it is just as political to complain about feMAle leADs as it is to crank out uninspired schlock nodding at everyone for points. This is not that movie. It’s a good time