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The Shepard-class served with distinction during the war with the Klingon Empire in 2257 and one if its line was the USS Gagarin. In the Lore of Star Trek Online, Yard 39 saw the reintroduction of these ships and their conversion into ones suitable for the 25th century.
Then Star Trek Picard added them to the canon in 2401 so let's analysis and breakdown this ship and its lore.
00:00 Introduction
00:29 Real Origins
01:27 Yard 39
04:38 Adapting the Lore
05:14 Lore Origins
05:49 Specs
08:18 Mission Profile
09:23 Outro
Music from bensound.com, purple-planet.com and freesfx.co.uk
Star Trek Online developed by Cryptic Studios and Perfect World.
Star Trek Enterprise/Voyager/Deep Space Nine/Discovery and The Next Generation are all owned by Paramount Pictures/CBS and distributed by CBS.
This Video is for critical purposes with commentary.

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@spartanx9293
@spartanx9293 Год назад
Sto really is doing all the work when it comes to ship design
@IN-tm8mw
@IN-tm8mw Год назад
I will FOREVER be in love with the STO: Command Battlecruisers
@KobayashiBrynhild
@KobayashiBrynhild Год назад
@@IN-tm8mw I personally love my Galaxy X.
@Rubix003
@Rubix003 Год назад
Yep.
@aludarce8921
@aludarce8921 Год назад
Very much agreed
@aredub1847
@aredub1847 Год назад
sto is new cannon.
@JaredLS10
@JaredLS10 Год назад
I just realized while thinking of the Disco era ships in Pic S1 that they kinda make sense. Those ships are only meant to be evacuation vessel's nothing more, nothing less. We are never told the exact number of ships lost in the Dominion War or even the Battle of Sector 001 for that matter. I could see Picard and La Forge issuing orders to pull older ships out of moth ball yards to build up the evacuation fleet for Romulus and honestly I think its the only way that the rest of Starfleet and the UFP would agree to help the Romulans, send old out of date ships that are being put back in service by the synths on Mars so resources and man power isn't being taken away from rebuilding the actual fleet and attempting to get it back to pre Dominion War numbers.
@tombaker8481
@tombaker8481 Год назад
Admiral: "Send in 3 Gagarin class ships...fully loaded with a complement of MACO's" LT: *gasp* "Sir, wouldn't that be a bit of overkill?" Admiral: "I want everything dead in that system........................in the name of peace"
@tba113
@tba113 Год назад
Hard to get much more peaceful than what's left after a task force like that rolls through.
@brockjacobs6404
@brockjacobs6404 Год назад
Imagine the poor pirates that first faced the deadly might of a gagarin class
@leondillon8723
@leondillon8723 8 месяцев назад
During the Viet Nam War, some stupid US talking head said: "The village had to be destroyed in order to save it."
@SimpleGeekReviews
@SimpleGeekReviews Год назад
This is my favorite ship. Used to love the Avenger series, but holy hell after I got the MW Gagarin...oh boy. I hardly fly any other ship. Just the layout for everything, speed, tankiness.
@josephfaber4974
@josephfaber4974 Год назад
Great vid! The Gagarin is one of the few ships that can give the Vesta a run for its money in terms of my favorite 24th/25th century designs. And agreed, using the Yard 39 story in the 2390s would solve a lot of problems.
@TechLeafRanger
@TechLeafRanger 3 месяца назад
I have...at least one of the variants of this ship in ST:O. Got it as the reward for the first ever event I completed while playing the game. It now serves as the Tier 6 ship for my main character on my account, who I complete events with and such. I really love the appearance of the vessel. It's a very sleek design, that gives a fast attack ship vibe. And being a battlecruiser means I've got a ship that takes a bit more of a beating then some of the escort and pilot vessels my other characters use, but can move better and hit harder then the cruisers other characters have. While I certainly have other ships I really like, I'll always come back to my USS Constellation.
@CrazyNights1015
@CrazyNights1015 Год назад
I remember watching an interview where the Picard team was trying to think of ships for that fleet and someone randomly mentioned STO. If i remember correctly, apparently most of the Picard team had no idea that such awesome designs existed in the game. How could they have missed such a treasure trove of already made ships?
@valor1omega
@valor1omega Год назад
They aren't Trekkies and they lack imagination, that's why. Even old school Trekkies know of STO and these ships.
@datastorm75
@datastorm75 10 месяцев назад
I haven't played STO in a LOOOOONG time, and I'm aware of it having new designs. Show developers tend to look at games and thing "Ewwww, nerds!" It's a blind spot of theirs in almost any production, not just Star Trek related.
@Desticia-Sisenna
@Desticia-Sisenna 2 месяца назад
Because it's a game and thus it's dismissed out of hand.
@marshallhuffer4713
@marshallhuffer4713 Год назад
Named for Soviet Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first human to venture into space.
@Quattro_Joe
@Quattro_Joe Год назад
This ship type will be renamed. Kinda unfashionable to be Russian these days.
@iansysoev9462
@iansysoev9462 Год назад
@@Quattro_Joe I'd say otherwise)
@Quattro_Joe
@Quattro_Joe Год назад
@@iansysoev9462 Tell that to German Shepards after WW2
@RA10H56
@RA10H56 Год назад
I was the first man in space. Yuri Gregarin is the devil.
@Johnston212
@Johnston212 Год назад
That's what I thought. Worth it just for that historical nugget.
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab Год назад
Kinda makes sense old Starfleet shuttle hulls etc would find themselves in taxi service, though. Many would be around and probably perfectly serviceable. I think of how Boston kinda famously has old military 'duck boats' as amphibious tour buses that are still kicking.
@OmAlexander1111
@OmAlexander1111 Год назад
Just like those police crown Vic's becoming taxis... or military grade Hum V's being sold to civilians.
@valor1omega
@valor1omega Год назад
Why? They have mass teleport abilities now. Odds are that way just to help make the show feel a bit more trek then some generic sci-fi show.
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab Год назад
@@valor1omega Eh, but everything isn't between transporter pads/gates so everyone and everything beaming everywhere would be bound to get unwieldy. And there's a difference between actually travelling and just appearing.
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 Год назад
I am actually wondering if the Disco vessels in Picard S1 might have been in the process of being refit into the new classes.
@michaelgreenwood3413
@michaelgreenwood3413 Год назад
Those Magees could very likely be Shrans.
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 Год назад
@@michaelgreenwood3413 Exactly
@gondor532
@gondor532 Год назад
Which makes no sense, like the rest of the nu trek
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix Год назад
They needed thousands of ships, im sure they were refitting anything that could move bodies.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix Год назад
@@gondor532 what do you mean? That's literally how they've always done refit. The refit Enterprise was literally an entirely new ship, the old ship and new ship simply do not line up anywhere, theres no room in the refit for the original ships structure.
@jeffumbach
@jeffumbach Год назад
This Gagarin-class looks badass.
@angelsandautobots
@angelsandautobots Год назад
It reminds me of a precursor version of a Buran command dreadnought which is an absolute tank of a ship.
@T.H.U.G
@T.H.U.G 8 месяцев назад
definitely looks like a throwback but I like it. great vid
@theloniousMac
@theloniousMac Год назад
Someday someone at paramount is going to figure out that well made models (Franklin Mint-ish) of all the different starships in cannon will create a Pokemon like craze in the Star Trek community. We'd all be like "Gotta get'er all!"
@Azrael__
@Azrael__ Год назад
That's actually a pretty intimidating design.
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 Год назад
Isn't it kinda funny that several hundred years in the future most of their classes and ships are named after things that fit into a specifically 20th and 21st century reference pool?
@Shapes_Quality_Control
@Shapes_Quality_Control Год назад
I never thought of that. Funny but now I actually recall in the pilot episode of Discovery two ships whose names stand out to me. One being the U.S.S. Ta’Planahath (butchered the spelling) being named after a Vulcan philosopher, and the U.S.S. Shran which was clearly named after the 22nd century Andorian captain.
@BNuts
@BNuts Год назад
The question I'd like answered the most is 'what is the Romulan Free State, and how does it differ from the Romulan Star Empire?' Also, 'where are the Remans?'
@kevinramsey417
@kevinramsey417 Год назад
The Gagarin is arguably the best ship in the game that doesn't come in a gamble box. She's such a beast!
@Rubix003
@Rubix003 Год назад
The Mirror version is good too
@jeremydale4548
@jeremydale4548 5 месяцев назад
Hydra class all the way@@Rubix003
@TheTrueOrion
@TheTrueOrion Год назад
The Gagarin Class, my precious baby,,, I've been keeping a Mirror gagarin always on back-hand in STO for whenever i feel peculiarly flipped ;P
@Daginni1
@Daginni1 Год назад
They basically did what the Klingons have been doing forever now. Taking a old space frame, gutting it of antiquated components and filling it with modern components resulting basically a new ship class looking like the old. it saves money for Klingons (and film studios) and it shouldnt be surprising to see Starfleet finally doing the same.
@PeterMuskrat6968
@PeterMuskrat6968 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately, with the fucking D-7 and its "variants" you still have the stupid and exposed neck.
@TheImperialAnswer
@TheImperialAnswer Год назад
Now to be fair. In beta Canon they are still building Miranda class ships even as late as the era prior to and during the Dominion War. The ships Sisko was posted to before his Tenure at DS9 had a Miranda built as it's replacement, and named after it as well.
@Just_Rick_137
@Just_Rick_137 Год назад
Great review. Beautiful ship & it's unique EPS grid sounds cool. 👍👍
@2xghostx2
@2xghostx2 Год назад
I Love the Gagarin Class! it's such a Beast in combat! :D
@yazanbaddawi9683
@yazanbaddawi9683 Год назад
I love the design of this ship.
@anderswallin3883
@anderswallin3883 Год назад
Now that is a cool ship
@oliverfranke7650
@oliverfranke7650 11 месяцев назад
It makes sense to include these ships, because it was a very cheap way to get new ships into the shows, without designing and create new, expensive CGI movels.
@malloryemclaren
@malloryemclaren Год назад
I love this design
@RBGameZ619
@RBGameZ619 Год назад
I also currently have the Gagarin Class as my main ship in STO. Its very very reliable. And yes it looks so sexy too. STD and Picard are great shows in their own ways and have seated themselves along side other Star Trek series in thr canon universe. Mind if I ask. What shield or skin were you using on your gagarin? The one with the clean illuminated lines?
@M3PH11
@M3PH11 Год назад
Finally! my main in STO
@livingchutoy5422
@livingchutoy5422 Год назад
This ship just screams "I'm sneaking up on you!"
@DocWolph
@DocWolph Год назад
It would be interesting to heard what the writers think would be the differences between the Archer/Cochrane" Nacelle and the Eaves/Beyer Nacelle. I would imagine the Eaves/Beyer being much more durable and easier to repair. And despite the dearth of actual development, the Eaves/Beyer is not lacking for speed, top speed and probably acceleration. As vast and varied as the universe SHOULD be, that seemingly everyone uses Warp for FTL, and apparently uses the same type and configuration of Warp drive seems like some huge mass of [not thinking] on the part of the writers. This alternate version of the "classic" warp design, like "Radial Flux" versus "Axial Flux" Motors (feel free to look that up) is a welcome addition to the universe.
@DavidCodyPeppers.
@DavidCodyPeppers. Год назад
It's a great looking ship. Peace! \o/
@noahtoadz
@noahtoadz Год назад
my current ship in Sto and its dam good
@leondillon8723
@leondillon8723 8 месяцев назад
1:14)The lights around bridge say "aim here." 2:28)Looks like the Vanguard type of space station. 3:46)Archer-Cochrane engine? The USS Enterprise (NX 01) had an experimental Warp 3 engine. In one "ST:TOG" story line, Cochrane disappeared after his Warp 1 was tested. The Captain's father? Grandfather? 5:49)I would say that the USS Gagarin (USS 97930) is an upgunned 2nd flight USS Shepard Class. 7:27)The USS Christopher (NCC 97936) was the 2nd launched. There had to some very difficult problems building the other 5 in between. Was the 36 named for the son of USAF Captain John Christopher?" ST:TOS" Sea. 1/Epi. 19 "Tomorrow Is Yesterday".
@michaelgautreaux3168
@michaelgautreaux3168 Год назад
It's beautiful. The pylons for the nacelles are a little "Bi-planish". They remind me of Dervish, Hermes, Gryphon patrol units. Many thanx 👍👍
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos Год назад
Really wish that you could have done an episode of the STO story with the Halloween mission...
@commander1488
@commander1488 Год назад
That ship CAN tank hits... i am just bad at choosing build for the ship (in game, this ship is "miracle worker" but my build was tetryon)
@Lukos0036
@Lukos0036 Год назад
It's a graceful ship design. The Shepard is too but it has some bits that bug me. The Gagarin solves them. It's also one of the more powerful ships in the game imo. Better than the Vengeance.
@alexxbaudwhyn7572
@alexxbaudwhyn7572 Год назад
As a lifelong, first run TAS watcher, Trek geek, I likey I'm partial to neckless, planar ship designs that otherwise maintain the Trek/Starfleet/Federation look
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 Год назад
We need an Excalibur class to be seen in Canon.
@ChristopherSloane
@ChristopherSloane Год назад
It is one of the cooler looking hulls
@DarthAzabrush
@DarthAzabrush Год назад
I forgive the Taxi shuttle because civilian use of obsolete military technology is very much a thing in line with Federation thinking. In the Shatnerverse for example the Enterprise A was given to a new member world as a system defence boat.
@vampwriter
@vampwriter Год назад
So when are you doing profiles on the other recovered Yard 39 ships? So far this is the only one of the group you've covered.
@navblue20
@navblue20 Год назад
Nice stuff. Are you going to do a class on the Duderstadt class. That to me is a multi role class according to a couple of sites I have seen. It would be interesting to get YOUR pov of that.
@inteprid20
@inteprid20 Год назад
@Cerifiably ingame - what is that lovely musical piece that you are using in the background?
@HalferLandPerformance
@HalferLandPerformance Год назад
I have one Eaglemoss model...hard to find. Ended up having to but three because they kept coming with the Nacels broken, being so long and skinny
@newnewnwo4-life497
@newnewnwo4-life497 Год назад
Yet another ship that would have made a better Enterprise G!
@RunnerX13
@RunnerX13 Год назад
I thought I read that this ship was influenced by Klingon design, as the Vor'cha class battle cruiser was influenced by Starfleet design.
@general_prodigy
@general_prodigy Год назад
Looks like some kind of racecar spaceship
@amysutton6407
@amysutton6407 Год назад
Can u do a video of all the classes of ships from start of star fleet to the latest class of ship
@icarus_falling
@icarus_falling Год назад
Its a shame they stopped the sto collection then eaglemoss imploded. They were good little models
@christopherwilson7092
@christopherwilson7092 Год назад
It makes sense with a 3d model made
@kineuhansen8629
@kineuhansen8629 Год назад
man i hope we here some news on the former eaglemoss star trek models so we can get a xl picard collection and lower deck and prodigy
@tolazytothinkofanamd2351
@tolazytothinkofanamd2351 Год назад
I really want a protostar model.
@kineuhansen8629
@kineuhansen8629 Год назад
@@tolazytothinkofanamd2351 would love a protostar xl model myself
@Vince005aran
@Vince005aran Год назад
So, no mention of how the Disco Gagarin was just the Shenzhou flipped upside down?
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 Год назад
you mean the shepherd? it has the same general profile sure but its wider, has longer nacelles, and a less greebled hull since its not a hero ship.
@zintosion
@zintosion Год назад
Kinda look like a futuristic frying pan with two handle with that narrow profile.
@skywise001
@skywise001 Год назад
Awesome video. If you havent yet check out Adam Savage visiting the original enterprise model.
@AxelWedstar411
@AxelWedstar411 Год назад
I'm Gaga for this class.
@morganb6717
@morganb6717 Год назад
as far as stats go in STO, the Gagarin is, hands down, a great design, but it has one rather glaring flaw they gave us an upside down ship. you don't need a particular eye for design to see that they just flipped it over and called it good. a damn shame. correctly oriented, the Gagarin looks great.
@ghoost8943
@ghoost8943 Год назад
Please do a video on the Miranda class, it never gets enough love
@jeremydale4548
@jeremydale4548 5 месяцев назад
IMO it gets TOO MUCH love in STO
@PrinceAnakin
@PrinceAnakin Год назад
Is there Crossfeild class Starship to upgrade 25 century technology.
@moxxy3565
@moxxy3565 Год назад
Looks like a cross between the NX-01 and the Enterprise J
@MihzvolWuriar
@MihzvolWuriar Год назад
2 Channels specialized in lore agreeing with something that makes total sense. CBS: NAH, let's do this other thing instead... Wanna bet that will happen?
@ffnbbq
@ffnbbq Год назад
Well, most ship lore in old Trek was largely written for tech manuals (which is beta canon until an episode uses it), or simply not covered at all. It's extremely likely that none of these ships will ever get backstory that's canon, unless a story very specifically requires it.
@nsg_kuunda4786
@nsg_kuunda4786 Год назад
Seems like a ship Lorca would captain.
@Skybaby79
@Skybaby79 Год назад
No saucer separation? :(
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 Год назад
🖖
@loganh2692
@loganh2692 6 месяцев назад
ST online is pulling star trek’s weight rn lol
@thechiefrock2850
@thechiefrock2850 Год назад
damn,this level of fire power are rival with the terran empire level ship,starfleet wasn't fucking around this time
@HITMANPegas
@HITMANPegas 10 месяцев назад
@5:22 Why does that look like a Centaur class ship.
@singletona082
@singletona082 Год назад
I like your retcon on why discovery era assets were fielded with 'contemporary' ships. While you might not like it, this is what exists so we need an explaination. Also 'baryonic radiation' You mean regular ol alpha/beta radiation? Aka the star was spitting protons/electrons out?
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 Год назад
Probably neutrons most likely. Those are known for being really nasty
@shanenway3684
@shanenway3684 Год назад
looks like a bulked out Crossfield class
@elitejeffrey3719
@elitejeffrey3719 Год назад
STO was named Cannon before they ever did the Kelvin movies
@elitejeffrey3719
@elitejeffrey3719 Год назад
That's why it was a big deal in STO when they showed the Enterprise F in Picard season 3, also known as The Odyssey
@ffnbbq
@ffnbbq Год назад
STO was never canon, and the first Kelvin movie was released before STO launched. As I recall, Cryptic was under pressure to launch the game within 2 years (after Perpetual collapsed) in order to keep the licensing agreement, which is why the game launched in such a rough, contentless state.
@keflas3842
@keflas3842 Год назад
i fly this badass ship in sto
@baystated
@baystated Год назад
I love the STO variety of ships that we dont get to see in the prime universe. I can keep the universes separate in my headcannon and appreciate that the TNG had fewer classes and even despite the Dominion war, the Federation stepped back to an exploration mission from the battle-fleets that makes STO games interesting. I can handle both variations of Trek, fulfilling their purpose in their different mediums. The ships in both universes are gorgeous.
@RBGameZ619
@RBGameZ619 Год назад
Its all canon now though.
@baystated
@baystated Год назад
@@RBGameZ619 Yeah the past few weeks have been very good to us. Not a great time for Earth Space Dock but it seems to be made alright afterwards.
@joetuktyyuktuk8635
@joetuktyyuktuk8635 10 месяцев назад
I rather like this design, very battlecruiser-ish.
@TheAsvarduilProject
@TheAsvarduilProject Год назад
Reminds me a little of the NCC 1000 Bonaventure.
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 4 месяца назад
A far simpler idea would be to declare Picard non-canon. _Nothing of value would be lost._
@IloveElsaofArendelle
@IloveElsaofArendelle Год назад
That should have been the Enterprise F
@howardallan7849
@howardallan7849 3 месяца назад
Does it use Photon Torpedos or Quantum Torpedos?
@-JA-
@-JA- Год назад
🙂👍
@emperorofscelnar8443
@emperorofscelnar8443 Год назад
What I like about the Gagarin Class is that it does not have that weak thin neck that the Constitution Class has, the Gagarin is also compact and sleek.
@_Reverse_Flash
@_Reverse_Flash 9 месяцев назад
I love how silly game mechanics are now informing engineering lore. We need 5 extra slots for some RNG stat modifier effects, quick Barion radiation, eps grids, space frame rebuilds. How nice for the franchise.
@seanheath4492
@seanheath4492 Год назад
Kinda amused that it looks reminiscent of an upside-down Akira.
@seanheath4492
@seanheath4492 3 месяца назад
@@UwU-pk6nvNope. Looks like a right-side-up Shepard, but an upside-down Akira. :P
@Z-42
@Z-42 Год назад
100 years from now when you run out of topic ideas, you should do a timeline series to highlight all of the major points in the Star Trek timelines.
@TheGuardianofAzarath
@TheGuardianofAzarath Год назад
Sadly, the people answering directly to Klutzman (and writing Picard and STD specifically) don't seem to have the creativity or foresight to incorperate the Yard 39 storyline, the fact that they used a copy/paste fleet at all is proof of that. To be brutally honest, the concept for the Spore Drive in STD COULD have worked, story and lore wise, and certainly canon wise, IF STD had been set in the early/mid 25th century, instead of parralel to/pre-TOS, which would have avoided the canon-breaking introduction of Spock's fake sister (he never had one) and a literal _Jump Drive_ before Starfleet even started developing the excelcior class (there is also the issue of STD's writers forgetting how real world physics relating to sound and the vaccuum space work, but that's another whole barrel of fish). Hell, the concept of the Protostar only works because of where it sits in the Trek Timeline, if that had been set pre-TNG era, then it would have been just as much of a mess as STD.
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 Год назад
dude just stop. no one gives a shit about your half assed fandom menace bullshit. grow up and move on everyone else has
@saliston
@saliston Год назад
It would have been much easier to scrap those ships and start new
@rolandmiller5456
@rolandmiller5456 8 месяцев назад
Only if you're the lazy type. It takes less time and effort to take something that is already build redo it to where you can put in new technology than build it from scratch.
@jarrodnewman0514
@jarrodnewman0514 Год назад
NCC 1309??? That's more like a mid-23rd century registry number and not a late 24th century number.
@ffnbbq
@ffnbbq Год назад
That was the number of the original Sheppard class USS Gagarin that was destroyed early in season 1 of Discovery. All STO/Picard era Gagarin class ships have their numbers above NCC-97000.
@cianmannion1752
@cianmannion1752 Год назад
Good to see these videos also a little drunk
@neon920
@neon920 Год назад
Pretty interesting that it is named after the incident of the so called super humans on the planet Gagarin
@dannylesbile8592
@dannylesbile8592 Год назад
No matter STO is out of story lines anyway
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus Год назад
Baryon radiation...so alpha particles? LOL. Baryons are protons and neutrons. I guess proton or neutron particle beams could also be considered "baryon radiation".
@PrinceAnakin
@PrinceAnakin Год назад
Iam sorry iam new StarTrek Online.
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 Год назад
This ship screams "crossfield class" to me...
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 Год назад
there is a crossfield in this style called the Glenn class and i want it more than words can describe but it can only be found in a $200 ship pack because capitalism is the worst
@emperorofscelnar8443
@emperorofscelnar8443 Год назад
A lot of people I have come across in public like the name Constantinople, also I have done ship name voting on Twitter 4 times and 3 out of 4 Constantinople won, so I would name a ship the USS Constantinople.
@emperorofscelnar8443
@emperorofscelnar8443 Год назад
I wonder if the USS Constantinople should be a YorkTown Class starship or some other ship entirely.
@timothypage252
@timothypage252 Год назад
Where would beta canon be without Star Trek's perennial disregard for continuity and it's own lore? Where, I ask you?
@tjarchman5574
@tjarchman5574 Год назад
😴 ρɾσɱσʂɱ
@JoacinoDaGona
@JoacinoDaGona Год назад
I like to pretend that Klutzman-Trek does not exists, but if anything the ships inspired are looking nice.
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 Год назад
wow then you are gonna be pretending that forever since modern trek is insanely popular right now like CBS is having trouble keeping up with the demand for more trek content. currently they have like 7 shows currently in production and that's apparently not enough to meet with the demand.
@JoacinoDaGona
@JoacinoDaGona Год назад
​@@exilestudios9546 So popular that whenever rating are released they are in the gutter. Shows that barely make a blip on social media. Yes, that truly speaks of a success. Look man, you are not forced to defend shit just because it has the right label.
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 Год назад
@@JoacinoDaGona and where are you getting those so called ratings because I doubt it's from a reputable source as for social media buzz since when has trek ever made a buzz like that and why would we want it to? The kinds of shows that make the kind of buzz you are talking about burn hot and fast and then are quickly replaced with the next trend meanwhile trek remains popular and talked about even if it never reaches those heights and inevitably those lows.
@JoacinoDaGona
@JoacinoDaGona Год назад
@@exilestudios9546 Nielson is reputable, I guess? And you can measure social media and other interest by taking a look at search term statistics. It ain't rocket science.
@RBGameZ619
@RBGameZ619 Год назад
Like it or not those are the current and future of the Star Trek franchise. This progress. You gotta stop living in the past man. If you are not happy then you can go and join the Star Wars fan boys. Or the Orville groupies.
@meligoth
@meligoth Год назад
Still looks like a pizza cutter that resembles the Enterprise on Think Geek.
@RBGameZ619
@RBGameZ619 Год назад
Don't they all look like one. 😏
@spikedpsycho2383
@spikedpsycho2383 Год назад
Pizza cutter
@berndbernd3464
@berndbernd3464 Год назад
i dont care for Untrek
@terriblecertainity
@terriblecertainity Год назад
it's amazing how many mental gymnastics are necessary to pretend that Discovry/Picard take place in the time primeline
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