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What makes this scene even more heart breaking is that many witnesses would say that at the Attack at Nek, nearly 90% of all the Australian casualties didn’t even reach a third into No Mans Land. The First wave of 150 was nearly completely mowed down in less than a few minutes. Many not even getting more than 10 yards into No Mans Land. It was the very definition of a slaughter. Even Ottoman Turks who repelled the attack would later recount that they didn’t find any sense of victory on that day. Just complete remorse for their fallen foe.
Yes, its a great scene. Powerful and heart breaking. The Battalion commander at the Nek, historically did not die in wave 4. He actually died in wave 1. Not that it matters really, but it hits harder in this way.
They filmed extra scenes of the aftermath of the stretcher bearers bringing back the wounded but decided it would be more powerful to end like this. This boy, our main character who's pretty much flawless, almost angelic is cut down with his whole life ahead of him. Like Siskel and Ebert said this was a time when warfare was changing and individual attributes like courage and belief no longer mattered on the battlefield, what difference would it make to a machine gun. The Mel Gibson character is there as a slightly more modern less deferential character, the one more modern Australians might relate to, it was such a young country though back in 1915.
When I first saw this scene I thought "That's it?" After watching it later did I really understand there's no glory in it, any of it. Young boys die, there's your glory.
I am a Turkish! After seeing this scenes, I feel the deepest sadness in my heart. There is explanation or justification for this. I can not blame my ancestors for defending our country. Every sovereign society will do the same. I am glad Australians and Turks are friends today
The Turks are our friends. History records that by the third wave at The Nek the Turkish soldiers were pleading from their trenches to please stop: "durun Allah aşkına durun". Yet we continued to go over the top to die :-(
Exactly. We were only against each other because of what governments told us to do. Turkey and Australia will always have a bond and have strength together now.
It’s Okay, we’re all in peace, The fallen soldiers are in the ground resting peacefully, we celebrate ANZAC day for those who sacrificed their lives for ours, many never knew what war was like, we can’t blame them. But we’re all in peace together, Least we forget.. - From an Australian
Many people didn't (don't) like or even get the ending (that final frame), but that's the point of the film: it begins with Mark Lee, and it ends with Mark Lee's death = a generation of aussies swept away in the baptism of fire/blood of the Australian nation in the world stage. The 1915 Generation.
This entire film was supposed to be how war actually is, young kids getting mowed down like grass. What do people think they are going to see in a war movie, romance?
No it's based of a first hand account of someone describing a young Australian running across no man's land without a rifle and being hit by machine gun fire making it look like he had crossed the finnish line of a school run.
I saw this movie in 1981 at the cinema with my family when I was 11 years old. It was the first movie I had seen that didn't have a happy ending. It took me a long time to come to grips with that.
Me too. Saw it in Auckland. Was 7 years old. Went home afterwards and asked my grandfather what happened after, after Archie gets shot. He didn't know so I researched everything i could get my hands on about the campaign and The Nek in particular in the vain hope that, in real life, after that last scene, there was a happy ending. Has stuck with me to this day.
I had the same feeling when seen this film when I was I high school while learning about WWI, with the additional feelings of shock and denial. I never forgot this film.
I went to a boarding school - we all watched this on our movie night in year 9, 150 girls packed in on the music room floor. We usually got something cheerful, or a horror, but it was ANZAC day, so we got given this. I absolutely remember the silent tension of all of us watching this last scene (it takes a lot to silence teenage girls) and the absolute howls at the final shot. Fantastic, heart wrenching movie - we all walked out quiet.
This scene has haunted me for 40 years. I cannot and will not understand it, ever. It's what made me become a history teacher 30 years ago. I'm so sorry that this happened.😥
“Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.” Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
@@Guitcad1 Atatürk honors by calling them "heroes" even though they lost the war. It is true that they were victims, but you should blame the British for that.
One of the best (and most tragic) portrayals of war in cinema. He was the most pure-hearted character, but even he didn't die a hero's death. None of them did. Absolutely senseless violence, and the scale of it feels suffocating. The millions who died aren't just numbers, each and every one had such a precious, fragile life. Movies like these make you anti-war forever.
Yes, absolutely senseless violence as you say, when you actually step back from it and look at what happens in a war, soldiers running around firing metal pellets at the 'enemy' and killing everyone, you have to wonder why it ever happens, how many of the killed may have lived on and contributed to humankind if they hadnt been senselessly killed on a foreign battlefield, all for what? .....
Being from Western Australia', the last line from the captain 'remember who you are, the tenth Light Horse, men from Western Australia' gets me every time.
I'm not from WA but me too, that line, gets me every time. They're not going to make us go, are they? No, there's no point. They should have gone, Barton. Flags have been seen. Not by me, sir. I've asked for confirmation-from General Gardner. Your orders are to attack. The British must be allowed ashore. Is that clear? - You are to push on. - It's cold-blooded murder. I said push on. Right, sir. Can't ask the men to do what I wouldn't do myself. All right, men... We're going. I want you all to remember who you are. You're the Tenth Light Horse! Men from Western Australia. Don't forget it.
I just finished the whole movie and this scene hits hard. You really are rooting for this boy the whole movie. He's so innocent and kind and a great friend to Mel Gibson's character from start to finish. It's gut wrenching to think about.
We watched this as Kiwis & Aussies in Gallipoli in 1991 on a Contiki tour. Australia & New Zealand were forged as a nation over this war and will be brothers for ever because of it.
The idea that Australian nationhood and national identity were forged at Anzac Cove is nonsense. The real great period of Australian nationalism and sense nationhood was during the late 19th century culminating with the federation of Australia in 1901. If anything the spirit of Australian nationhood and ended on 4 August 1914. The Gallipolli campaign was a disaster. We were dragged into service by the imperial government in an ill-conceived and poorly executed campaign, we were cut to ribbons and dispatched. And none of it in the defence of Australia
@@reynaldoflores4522 given the direction the maniac in charge of NZ is taking that country they’re more likely to end up united with China than their more conservative and powerful neighbour in Australia. It would be an amazing thing if they did unite (Aus and NZ) and it would benefit both parties greatly, but unfortunately I don’t see it happening.
The ANZACS will forever be remembered for their contributions during the Gallipoli campaign and I say that as an American… Churchill had the right idea opening up a new front but it was executed terribly
As a Turk, this scene made me very emotional. In this scene, which is already human, he gets emotional. This war is remembered as the last gentlemen's war. It's always young people dying because of old politicians. But the letter that Mustafa Kemal Atatürk wrote to the Anzac soldiers made me very emotional and proud. The words of the letter are: ' Heroes who shed their blood on the land of this country. Here you are on the soil of a friendly homeland. Sleep in peace and tranquility '
Three things always strike me about this film. One, first film I cried about. Second, the scene where the Aussie play football infront of the pyramids, & three, that the Turks, the enemy, are never seen.
Respect to all anzacs, from Turkey. this scene and music is perfect, heart touching, maybe those young men are in better world now who died in that war
My great great grandfather died here,I would like to visit his grave to pay my respects. All soldiers no Maggie what side deserve respect, may they all Rest In Peace
“Ah yes let me send another volley of troops at the enemies in a very loud and obvious way even though I’ve done this 20 times already and it hasn’t worked at all”
I was first introduced to the film in 1983 on a rainy afternoon at school when sports was cancelled. The teachers wheeled the senior school into the video room and put this on without telling us what it was about. I still remember the silence in the room as it played - quite something for a room full of teenagers - and the older kids crying at the end. These final scenes have stayed embedded in my heart ever since. I still know every word that Mark Lee says before going over and the Adagio still makes me dissolve into floods whenever I hear it. To be sure, this was a powerful film, supremely well directed.
The scene is actually based on a real report by the Australian C.E.W Bean in his offical history of the battle. He described a young Australian soldier of the 10th Light Horse struck by a burst of machine gun fire who seemed almost to be "breaking the tape at the finish line of a foot race." The screenwriter (the great playwright David Williamson) got the names of the two leads, played by Mel Gibson and Mark Lee when he was in Egypt researching the script. He climbed to the top of the great pyramid - it was still allowed in the 1980s... and at the top found some graffiti dating from 1915. "Frank and Archie, AIF, 1915". We don't know who the real Frank and Archie were, whether they survived the war or not. But their names are forever immortalised in this film. One correction though. Right next to the Aussie position, there were British troops. They could see what was happening and out of sympathy for the Aussies mounted their own futile charge in support of the attack.. and were also cut to pieces. But this film was part of the Australian New Wave cinema and tended to play down the British contribution at Gallipoli, which outnumbered the Australian in casualties by 4 to 1. Lest we forget.
And 300,000 French and German troops were killed at Verdun. That was also downplayed in this movie. Why? Because this movie wasn't about them. Nor was it about the British at Gallipoli. If it were a documentary, then overlooking the British also killed would be wrong. Gallipoli isn't a documentary.
Have you got a reference for that ? It was a diversionary attack i know that but havnt heard before about a sympathetic british attack or even knew there was such a thing.
You do know that only 1 Australian division fought at Gallipoli ? With the New Zealand contribution 20 battalions. So there were nearly 12,000 killed. So im not sure on 4 to 1.
@@anthonyeaton5153 No, those are deaths. I didn't write that France and Germany EACH had 300,000 killed at Verdun. France had @163,000 killed, Germany @ 143,000. That adds up to 306,000. If I were talking about casualties, I would have used the figure 755,000, which is the estimated combined casualties of that battle.
According to a ancient military law; soldiers who gave their life for a same piece of land are brothers. Because their blood is mixed together in that same piece of land. Respect to my ANZAC brothers.
Such a beautiful film, the music, the imagery all adds up to the massive punch in the guts you get when the whistle blows and Gibson knows times is up....RIP every single one of you
Me and my family on Anzac Day stood in our drive way at dawn and then watched this movie. Paying respect to the anzacs and how lucky my family was for my great grandad and grand dad to survive
I feel so sorry for all those Anzac soldiers. I send my prayers when I visit Gallipoli and see their graveyards.. They're resting in their home, they're not somewhere far away. I listened a Turkish veteran, he was saying that they didn't see Anzacs as the enemy after a while and they even gave gifts to each other.. Greetings to everyone from Turkey.
A classic of WWI. Breasting the tape. I saw this many years ago and it affected me for days. It is one of the reasons I've became a WWI buff. The Gallipoli campaign was bungled in several ways, and the Anzacs paid the price in blood. The history of the world would be vastly different if Gallipoli worked. It is likely that Russia might not have become Communist, for instance, if the Dardanelles and Bosporous were open to them.
I am. While watching "1917", the increasing tension got me wondering whether Will would be able to save the day or another tragedy would unfold just like at the end of "Gallipoli."
I recommend anyone about to watch 1917 to watch Gallipoli first. Takes away all reassurance of "the good guy is going to make it and it will be a happy ending".
This movie does in the last 15 minutes what it takes 1917 nearly two hours to do. Personally I was rather underwhelmed by 1917. It wasn't a bad movie, but doesn't pack the emotional punch that Gallipoli does.
This scene personifies how disgraceful WW1 was. Sending young heroic men into battle with no chance of winning. A whole generation maimed, killed and traumitised is horrible beyond measure and that includes the Turks. RIP
@@boratunastopmotion During WW1 St Petersburg's name was changed to Petrograd (a more Slavic name). Petrograd remained the capital of Russia under the Tsars.
Just finished it and all I can say is that, it’s perfect and tragic. Since the ending is open I’d like to think Frank would often visits his family and hang out with them. Learning to ride a horse , Running as fast as a cheetah and being a joyful man, all these are what Archie was before his tragic ending. I’m sure Archie will forever be watching Frank and admire him slowly grow to a strong man and hopefully one day meet each other again to sprint away to the skies. Despite this movie being old, I’m glad my History teacher showed me this film, and now it’s on my top 5 and a spot in my heart. But I’m not gonna rewatch it since I don’t want to see the ending again 🥲
Mu Father took me to see this movie in 1981. I was 10. I remember every single moment of the film like it was yesterday. At the end of the movie, I was weeping uncontrollably and my Irish-American Dad stood up at her end, stood at attention and said, "God Save the Queen" in a cynical and sarcastic manner I will never forget. He was all of 38 at the time..... I lost my Dad on November 13th. He was 79. He fought Cancer for 8 years to make sure my boys knew himband would remember him. H e was the legitimately the best man I have ever known, and my best friend. He was even OK when I went into the Army (We were Navy fanily), and became a Fireman instead of a cop, breaking 4 generations....because he knew I wanted to make my own way, and he respected that. He saw me make Captain and name Officer of the Year 1 months before he passed. I was with him every day for 3 months, and was sitting with him when he passed. I needed to really, really cry tonight after writing his obit and prep my Eulogy for him. So I watxhed Archie Die again in a pointless offensive. And cried like a 10 year-old. Oddest thing? I married a Turkish girl. We have little Irish Turk kids, and they are literally the best people I know. Anyway. Thanks for the Video. I needed to cry.
"Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives! You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country to of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, 1934
A beautiful, pivotal, riveting, and heart-wrenching movie that has stuck with me since the first time I saw it. The final frame is a masterpiece. I do not think anyone who has seen it can ever unsee it. I would love to talk to these gents, even for just five minutes.
@@esanch4918 1917 was ridiculous. First the title. In that year there was the Areas offensive Messines, third battle if Ypres and Cambrai. A fictitious take if 2 runners is not 1917. Generals do not give orders to private soldiers or call them gentlemen. Where did that swirling water come from in Arras. Study proper WW1 history don't rely on movies
@@anthonyeaton5153 1917 is a very artsy take on war, and very much a fictional story. I still love the movie for enjoyment though, even if it is not very accurate
This i still remember. Oh and a fact: many years ago when I started at Canning College in Perth we were required to watch this movie. As a Singaporean who never got to see this it was a huge eye opener.
10th line regiment. Men from Western Australia. Nope, you're not forgotten as of 2020, and you did one hell of a service for the free world. Thanks, Aussies!
One good thing that came of this whole disastrous campaign is that Australian enlistments dried to a trickle as more and more people started to question Australia's involvement. In 1916, Prime Minister Billy Hughes promised the British government 50,000 more Australian troops by introducing conscription. His own Labour Party rebelled and successfully pushed for a conscription referendum. The Yes vote was narrowly defeated, as well as another in 1917 by an even bigger majority. Whatever your POV on the war, tens of thousands of young Australian men were at least spared from being sent to the killing fields of Europe.
I watched this as a kid in a school and paid no attention to it, saw it as a free period as you do when any video comes on in class, now that I’m 28 watching this again does something real to you man, just get teary eyed thinking about it all
The Fact that you know Dan (Mel Gibson) won't be able to make it in time of the attack, but then realize he's only a few meters short just makes this all the more tragic.
Now in the same alliance, hope this two sides - three countries never come to oppose each other in such fatal ways. A generation was lost there. I am 22 and when I travelled former battlefields in a rainy September, even spending a day there with wet legs was annoying as hell. Canbot fully imagine hearing shell explosion voices for 20 hours while the fight is in "cool phase".
In the end, these brave soldiers didn’t climb over the trenches for love of God or Country. They climbed over for the love of their fellow brother soldiers. They didn’t want to let them die alone.
The Turkish leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk said for the Anzac soldiers who died in Gelibolu, "Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives; you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace, after having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well". Gallipoli is a place within the borders of Turkey and Turks have had to fight to protect the boundaries. If Gallipoli had been lost, the Turks would have lost Istanbul after that, so thousands of soldiers gave their lives to protect their country. Turkey was not a strong country in the war years. However, the soldiers did everything under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk to protect their country. For this reason, winning this war today makes us proud because we were trying to protect our own borders and we had a successful struggle despite the difficult conditions. Today, the graves of Anzac soldiers in Çanakkale are always decorated with flowers and are visited also by the Turks. Because we know that these soldiers were young people who were sacrificed by the British, and we also know that they are heroes just like our Turkish soldiers.
