That moment you realise Melisandre arriving was unexpected and so the fire araks were a bonus. Meaning they were originally going to charge with the fire-less versions, even blinder and less effective. End me. Edit: I can see a lot of people want coverage for episode 4, what I can tell you is that I have already began working on a season 8 recap in total and it will hopefully release soon after the last episode does...stay tuned folks, it's gonna be long....*sigh*
And hilariously they didnt even give them proper weapons to counter the dead. Yeah........ Hilarious. I guess they were clearly expecting Melisandre to warp in and do her magic, except they werent. *facepalm*
Not *less* effective, *completely* ineffective. They weren't made of Valyrian steel. They were sending the Dothraki to their 100% certain death and contribution to the army of the undead. And not one of the Dothraki paused for a second and thought, "Wait a minute..."
all I want is a show to be smarter than me. I'm not a scholar I only have a passing knowledge of midlevel siege tactics and battle tactics. I'm sure there's plenty of books that have accounts of battles to draw inspiration from. Christ a decent rts game will teach you not to attack the front lines with cavalry.
No amount of plot armour would save Sean Bean you could have him covered head to toe in plot armour even then somehow Sean Bean dies. No but really seriously no one important died I mean come on even Ser Davos survives and he was on the fucking wall last I checked.
@JoeRingo118 they've been hinting at it since season 1. He traded Joffrey's face for Stannis, and from Stannis moved on to Brienne. He will reveal his true identity after he kills Cersei using Jaime's face. These show writers are utterly brilliant!
They were extras who were scheduled to he on the walking dead, but they got lost and were searching the library for an Atlas Map book so they can figure out how to get to thr right set.
@@Hys868 dude she was hiding like on top of them dude like she has training dude like its battlefield so they cant hear her dude stop hating dude staaaaahp
That was my reaction when he showed the two scenes with Jon side by side to show how different the backdrop was, except they were so dark I couldn't see a thing.
visuals were shittttttt if i wanted to watch a few lights in the dark i would type Nice Fire work desplay on youtube. everything was shitttttt..even that sound effacts or lack of. all shittttt
@@tygerskull Make Pepper Potts kill Thanos halfway through Infinity War and Captain Marvel lead the avengers to victory against Hydra during Eng Game and we're getting close.
Yeah she was one of the actresses who actually read the books and dived as deep as she could into it. She learned how to sword fight left handed because the character in the books was left handed. Now she is ambidextrous because of it and actually helped form the idea of that double edged staff Gendry forges for her that can be broken and dual wielded. Now only if D+D could’ve had the same attention to detail as Maisie did. You knew they were dumbass fucks when all they cared about in season 7 was getting a zombie polar bear somehow into an episode. The only thing they did right was read the books before another producer did.
No one needed to come over. No extra armies. No dragons. Everyone needed to kill the white walkers were already there. Jon snow left winterfell for no reason - they didn't even need dragon glass!!! All they needed was bran, arya and the fucking dagger. The end
Why did they even go that far north of the wall to get a wight to show Cersei and Daenarys? Take some low life criminal on death row and kill him on the other side of the wall. Anyone that dies north of the wall turns into a wight at that point in the show. If they did this then NK doesn’t kill any dragons and wall is never breached. They would have to build ships or cross the bridge of skulls at westwatch-by-the-bridge. Also why are the heavily armored knights of the vale not on horseback? I’m sure heavily armored lancer cavalry would do much better in a charge than the Dothraki would with kopesh swords and some horse archers here and there.
LordOfThePizzaPie the fun part about that is, that there is actually a bunch of hints that the boar was warged by bloodraven (at least in the book). So indirectly, the boar might actually be a villain in the book
The boar killed King Robert, but the Night King killed Eunuch Theon. But in GoT lore, Eunuchs make the best fighters... and siblings are the best lovers!
I don't understand why everyone is so upset with Jon screaming at the dragon. He hid, he thought it was looking the other way, and then he popped out and got caught dead to rights, what the hell else was he gonna do?
@@DrRockso1987 No, Jon had already hidden and ran from the dragon a few times. He was sure he would become undead if he lost the battle. He didn't know about Arya and her plan. So, he thought it was all on him, and when he got caught dead to rights he screamed in anger because he was sure death had won and he had failed the entire world.
@@eds6755 You dont understand how stupid it is? There is either 2 logical fucking options to commit to. You either stab the fucking dragon in its head before it breathes fire at you, or you fucking run. In what world are you living in that screaming at the dragon is actually a fucking idea. Screaming in anger does not fucking help, unless your purpose is to fucking die. Screaming at monsters is a FUCKING comedy trope, its not meant to be FUCKING TAKEN SERIOUSLY
Good work. Now whats the verb for a show that jumps the shark in a Mary Sueish/ SJWish/ poorly written fashion? "My favorite franchise just got 'Reyed' and the goddamned Transformers are dead to me now." Idk
@@SlyScyther Yes he was. He was built up as infinitely complex - as Mauler said, TRANSCENDING G human characteristics. That was his entire arc. He is the embodiment of death, turned into a subpar human villain.
@@Arcessitor he never transcended human characteristics. The white walkers showed themselves to be sadistic and mocking. The night King smiles after surviving the dragon fire. Very human reaction. The threat they represent goes beyond thrones, but does not transcend human nature. Death is not complex
Just let Tywin and Robb take a look at the battle plan for this episode Their unbridled rage will rival a thousand dragons and obliterate the Night King's army ten times over.
They've had a few good additions to the show that havent been in the books as i undestand it. They seem to be decent with dialogue(mostly). Storytelling tho, last half of the the show feels like someone took on too many responsibilities so everything turns out half baked or gets completely neglected.
I liked how they used a mass, unprotected, light shock-cavalry that heavily relies on striking fear into the enemy against an army that cannot be made to feel fear. Or shock, for that matter. 'Cause, you know, they don't break ranks. 'Cause they're dead.
they only thing they could do is hit them from the side and bowl them over with press of their horses in order to break their momentum then get out of there
I also like how the Dothraki went from smashing through Lannister spear and shield walls, slicing through plate armor and jumping through Dragonfire to dying in seconds to some weak ass brainless wights who have previously been SHOWN to die almost instantly and catch fire rather easily to fire, they had flaming Arahks, how did they die so fast
Sacrificing an entire story arc, absolutely destroying character arcs and throwing 7 seasons of buildup out the window for a subversive "you go girl" moment. Disgraceful.
@@Kazserah yeah Arya killed all the family members of the house that DESTROYED her house, a plot she deserved to bring to a closure, what more did they want from her to be the superman of the series destroying every bad guy, this was a disaster
I'm pissed about everything, but the destruction of Sam's story arc pisses me off the most. What happened to the years of him gaining courage, learning how to fight despite his fear, and becoming a man who's willing to fight and die to protect his family and friends? Now he's just a big coward baby bawling in the middle of the chaos who's too insignificant for the enemy to even bother to kill.
I wasn't for a “you go girl” it was because, and I am using the words of D&D here “Jon killing the Night king was too predictable”. This reminds me of a quote I don't know where it is from “when you write your Story, so it ends up that the butcher did, but the readers figure it out before you finish the Story, so you rewrite it as the butler did it instead, you just end up ruining your own story”.
Did you forget that they attacked the umber castle before winterfell? Obviously the umber kid killed all the other giants, didn’t you know that giants weakness is little children?
When giant pick up the little girl, she dropped her axe right. But where did she find that dragon glass sword she could hide somewhere in her clothes cuz when giant throw her she cut herself. Also the sword is almost her length?
Game of Thrones: Filmmakers who don't understand history, the military, religion, human interactions or how to make satisfying fantasy trying to describe all of these things quickly and distract from their own bad logic with visual effects.
This is pretty much what happens when greedy producers throw out the source material that made all of this possible (the book series) and basically just pad out the series with fanfiction instead. Imagine the "What the Fuck?!" face George R.R. Martin must have had when seeing this episode.
@@thirty-three7546 Indeed. Fanboys wanted a spectacle, and they got it. The plot doesn't make sense? No one cares. Just give the popcorn munchers some epic scenes, they're gonna be happy.
So let me get this straight, they spend 57 days filming the "biggest battle ever", sacrifice good writing for impressive visuals, but then make everything so dark you can barely see it? Why?
Because they spent the money on marketing and went bare bones on the actual show. The darkness is a trick to hide all the lacklustre sets, costumes, makeup, cgi et al not to mention that this was also the purpose of the shaky cam and the rapid cuts. Do you think that it's a stylistic choice that EVERYONE is now wearing black which makes easier to hide their cheap costumes in the dark, especially when compared to the earlier seasons where everyone including the villains wore elaborate and vibrant costumes. Remember that were other night battles in this show like The Battle of Blackwater, which look much more visually impressive. Even Evil Dead 3 had a better night battle on a much lower budget than this.
Lasted that long AND it was defeated by a ragtag army with one of the worst defence strategies known to man. Seriously, how incompetent must the forces of the past have been that it took that long for them to push the dead back beyond the North and then build the wall? Oh wait, nevermind, they must have been very competent, it’s just that the writers are hacks.
They had TWO fire-breathing dragons AND a fire-witch Melisandre AND an army of archers AND trebuchets with fire projectiles sitting above high fortifications that can ALL deploy mass fire at distance that solves both the darkness problem but more importantly is the enemy's EXACT weakness. The humans had every perfect counter to the undead army in the history of the world yet somehow they got spanked until Deus Ex Machina kills the night-king. Yes it subverted my expectations. I expected the episode to be at least competent.
@Dung Pie that's the thing though, it needs to be heavy horse and armoured riders and even then they need to do something beyond charging straight on into their faces and not do anything apart from that. Some ragtangled bunch charging not even in formation, on horses meant to be quick over anything without any armour won't achieve anything if on the front line, even with infantry assist.
@Dung Pie Yeah you can. But its called Heavy Cavalry with lances and armor. But to be honest this is rotten from the head. I know what did Robert said about engaging the Dothraki in open field but this was garbage. GRRM gave to the World of GOT a faction what is fighting on horseback wearing ZERO armor, curved swords and I have barely see any of them with bows... so these guys are the best? Knights and armies from Westeros wearing plate and chain armor, on horseback using broad swords and shields ( not to forget the kite shields of the Lannisters ) should be afraid of the Dothraki? If I'm not mistaken GRRM took the idea of the Dothraki from the Huns but lets not forget those were a military force in the 4th century not in the 14th century from which GRRM took inspiration from the War of the Roses when soldiers and knights were wearing chain mails and plate armors.
Damn I didn't realise there was a corner of youtube where people didn't like this last episode. I've found a home. Yes, absolutely, this episode did kill any sort of rewatchability. I'd have to skip every scene where they mention the AotD since this arc that has been built up over 8 seasons is apparently a pointless dead end.
Not to say that the NK didn't deserve more fleshing out, but he does have a backstory. He was made by the children of the forest to defend against the first men. We don't know why exactly he has in a sense gone rogue and ventured beyond the wall, but for him to try and wipe out mankind is a fairly logical conclusion to his prime directive of 'kill people to protect the CotF'
@@NocturnalNick Which is what makes it shitty writing. His fleshing out is essentially just giving a reason as to why he's a regular cartoon villain hellbent on killing humanity just because. The reason we loved GoT was because of character development. GRRM himself has said he hates the regular trope of good vs bad. How is the biggest villain of the show going to be a paint by numbers, literally voiceless fuck that is less effective than the regular human characters of GoT when it comes to killing the main players
@@kairuibao1191 She was always the mad fking queen... She's been threatening to burn people since forever... She set fire to the Tullys straight after saying that it is Cerci who likes to do that. This was always her arc... She is the fire. As in fire is as bad as ice. Jon is going to kill her, producing the sword and becoming king.
Tyrion has been an abject moron since season 6. All he's done is mismanage a giant army, misread where the enemies were, get multiple critical allies killed and underestimate his sister to the point where they are now outnumbered. The fact that he still has the hand is fanservice.
Do you have a link, it’s interesting that the actors are starting to call out what is happening to their characters like audiences are. I watched some old Tyrion clips and it really does feel like a different character.
@@alexman378 "it really does feel like a different character." That might be because they are not using dialog written by Martin anymore. Martin took literal fucking years to forge and polish Tyrion's wit into a shining blade. The current writers have no idea how to deal with a character clearly so much smarter than them.
Episode 3 is one of those episodes where it's pretty enjoyable when you first watch it. It feels like a thrill ride and you sit there eyes glued to the TV. Then as soon as it ends and you start thinking about it all the ridiculous plot holes and absurdity of what you just witnessed hits you immediately.
Yawg moth....I agree...except that the dothraki charge was blatantly stupid and the first time I was like "Why are they doing that??" and while I enjoyed the rest of the episode deep inside I knew something wasn't right...I realised what it was only after videos like these roasting the episodes
The Night King kind of forgot he would have easily won the battle if he simply stayed behind his own lines. His army was winning just fine without him getting involved.
if westeros ever discovers electricity, the just need top hook up tywin's body to a generator because the amount of graves spinning going on is near infinite
Did you see the 6 hour livestream on Geeks + Gamers channel?? They had Cecil, Nerdrotic??, MauLer, Rags, Mindless Entertainment and That Star Wars Girl on there
You know what maybe if they just fucking show that Bran suddenly warged into the fucking undead (maybe nearly killing himself to show there is an opp cost) to freeze them for just a few sec, allowing Arya to sprint by, it would have been believable, more of a team effort, and explaining exactly what the fuck Bran is doing at ANY point in this episode. They could have built up the striking blow more, instead of shocking audiences and insulting their intelligence for 2 seconds. It would have made Bran suddenly much more dangerous to the Night King and his army (as opposed to "HE WANTS TO KILL ME BECAUSE I GOT MEMORIES OF THE LIVING LUL"). One simple second or two of that visual and a lot of problems are fixed. But noooooooooope.
I can get behind the idea that these guys aren't prepared to fight actual undead, and that their tactics would fail, it would be utter chaos and terror etc. But those tactics wouldn't even have worked against a regular army.
Exactly so. They would at least default to normal siege tactics. BUT, they DID know how to fight the undead, Jon has already seen how they fight in mass combat... TWICE. Once at the wall, once at that wildling settlement. He knows exactly what to do and what not to do. So this was just stupid.
Remember when Gendry spent a damn week creating a Magic Weapon for Arya? Meh. It just ended up on the ground somewhere. It meant nothing. She ended up using a kitchen knife instead.
@Cognitionis Indeed. Don't forget Jorah, Sandor, Gendry, Beric and Tormund. Half of the commanders in this army *fully knew and understood* how the whights fights. And the writers just threw it all in the garbage bin. Also, Jon was not at the Fist of the First Men. He was with Qorin Halfhand at the time. Sam, Edd, Gren and the rest of the Night's Watch were at the Fist.
As you know, Lucasfilm has now hired these two geniuses to fuck up old republic too. Star wars is now like undertaker. Brought back from the dead once in a year to get beaten back to death.
@Anthony Warren I would say Disney is winning it got billions of dollars for their last two shit movies from the people that oppose them. Now they’ve got their newest propaganda pieces funded instantly
Imagine if Lucasfilm had chewbacca jumping in through the window of the death star from the falcon randomly and killing Emperor Palpatine... then having Jaba the hutt being set up as the final villain in Return of the jedi.. Thats basically what happened here.
This episode had so much plot armour that even Kenny McCormick could survive the white walker invasion easily, how depressing for a intimidating force of evil.
This episode is the perfect example of why writers deserve more credit and respect. The best directors you can get your hands on will still make trash if you don't have good writers. Writer's credits should always be right beside the director's, because they are just as important.
And to think that they said that The Battle of Winterfell was gonna be "Helms Deep" levels of quality. Well... I guess that was just another one of the false promises that they made for this season.
Honestly its depressing, like this didnt even top the Blackwater in my mind, not even close to say Minas Tirith or Helmsdeep, sad to say the one rival to LOTR couldn't even have an onscreen portrayal that can rival LOTR on screen...
@@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 hardhome was better than this at least that made sense after all the wildlings didn't know the walkers were coming and got caught off guard not to mention they didn't really have anything to kill the undead army. while with this battle not only did the good guys have weapons to counter the undead army and dragons but they knew they were coming and yet still there defenses sucked.
This episode was the absolute peak of disappointment for me... this war should have lasted an entire season. Your analysis of front line trebs had me rolling.
I love that even the actress for Arya Stark didn't like the episode and kudos to her boyfriend for saying "it should be Jon". It brings me great joy but also sadness that even the actors of the show have a better understanding than the idiots writing the show. Give the script to the actors, they could do a way better job lol.
Not for long: “When we did the whole bit with Melisandre, I realized the whole scene with [the Red Woman] brings it back to everything I’ve been working for over these past six seasons-four if you think about it since [Arya] got to the House of Black and White,” Williams said. “It all comes down to this one very moment. It’s also unexpected and that’s what this show does. So then I was like, ‘Fuck you Jon, I get it.’”
They were like a 12 years old, who plays MTW 2 the first time 'hmm i dont want to be in castle its boring lets put my man into battlefield', 'oh wow horses lets attack with them first' 'nice trebuchet lets use them while my cavalry charge' 'oh no im fucking dead but my generals survived cause i play on very easy level' 'oh look my peasent archers killed the enemy general now they are all lost'
And you could have staged a better offense than the Night King. Create blizzard, send zombies to overwhelm the defenses, send dragon to breathe fire on Bran, stay on the ground and throw ice javelins at the good dragons.
Even more garbage that I didn't catch because it was dark as shit and fast cuts everywhere. The thing about people getting stabbed through plate armor is infuriating.
dave reel I can forgive the Night King stabbing through Theon’s armor with the blunt end of the spear because the WW have already been shown to have superhuman strength, but Jorah getting killed by a bag of bones with a wildlings weapon through his armor, that has deflected much more, is dumb as shit.
@@Tournavys it takes a lot of piercing potential to break plate mail. THe tactic against armor is to hit the weak points like joints. Your argument is utter bogus
@@Tournavys Plate armor was borderline impenetrable against medieval weaponry. So much so in fact that the most practical way to kill heavy infantry was to knock them down then use a dagger to stab their throats since plate armor was just that difficult to bypass any other way (aka the best way to kill plate armored troops was to use a tactic and weapon that ignores the plate armor entirely). Even the most powerful anti-armor medieval weaponry had the massive downside of being very unwieldy or awkward to use to the point where battle tacticians just gave up trying to break plate armor and just settled with "tackle them down then go for the throat". That shit was considered luxury gear for a reason.
@@Tournavys You CANNOT stab a blade through plate armor, especially when wights, which have never been shown to posses super-human strength, try to do it with look to be normal, non-magical weapons.
I enjoyed this episode when I saw it. Defended it even. Now I’ve watched this dismantling and realised I know fuck all about storytelling. This is why it’s probably best to avoid watching a popular show in the midst of hype.
Me: "You were the chosen one." - Me: "It was said that you would destroy clichés, not become them." - Me: "Bring innovation to television, not leave it in monotony." - Game of Thrones: "Ahhh... plot twists... Ahhh... CGI." - Me: "You were my favorite TV show... I loved you." - Game of Thrones: "Ahhh... Arya."
@@Enne- The showrunners didn't even remember the eye color scene properly. They rearranged the color of the eyes to make it seem like she was always talking about the Night king LOL. It's so stupid.
What prequel? Also, you think Martin would have done this better? What, he would have characters describe the giant battle and have the Night King have a monologue or be a viewpoint character? Fat chance of that
@@Enne- I someone hast to get somewhere without any regard of content or meaning, pretty please, let it be a man. Don't get the cheers of those who care about female representation... bc male representation comes first. Like Jon Snow. He has become a moron: he has no knowledge of strategy in battle, no charisma for being a king, he couldn't care less of the people... but he is going to get the throne anyway bc he is the son of Reaghar. Daenaerys, well, you know, she is a woman so first lady is enough for her. (Aaannnd her character has become a moron, as well).
@@dw3134 I dunno man, they forgot that Stannis wasn't burning people in S2E1, and they forgot that Dickon is Sam's younger brother. You never know with D&D.
Unsullied, Dohraki, Lord Commander of the nights watch, DRAGONS and a guy who sees the future... Hold up... did Bran just DR. Strange his way into the Iron throne? JON thinks his screaching killed the Dragon. Someone has been playing Skyrim it seems.
I actually think they still could have had Arya kill the NK - IF they did it correctly. If we saw what Dan and Dave promised: "A showdown between Jon and the NK is coming. One more intense than Hardhome, more intense than Beyond the Wall. It's going to shock the fans" If we saw Jon, Briene, Jamie, Jorah or anyone with Valerian Steel fight and kill the WW's and then Jon went 1v1 vs the NK- I can totally see the NK winning that fight and kicking Jon's ass, but before the NK can kill Jon- he's saved from Arya. It's a payoff that would have more worthy than the one that we got.
Devin Daily they could do anything if it was written with a modicum of thought lol. Tyrion could’ve killed the Night King if they bothered trying to write it
Well, it's like if Darth Vader had chocked to death on a peanut allergy and Jabba was the main boss, above the Emperor... "Nemesis a worthy is ones proof of nobility."
Tbh when I watch the episode on my phone, its so dark and pitch black, I didn't see anything after the cavalry charge. And the screen only brightens when the dragons appear but 60% of the time are pitch black
Genuinely, i didnt hate this episode. It was easily the best of the season on that score alone I throw in the shots you could actually see since it was TOO FUCKIN DARK
Lady Bladebinder certainly going to kill Cersei. Don’t know about her killing the mountain though. I imagine they’ll make the hound fight him so all the bar reactions can see “cleganebowl”
31:25 - "The Dothraki and Unsullied have been wiped from the show. Then again, I'm sure they will be fully re-stocked next episode...." holy shit you weren't kidding. Perfect prediction.
Not to mention in the final episode, the Unsullied seem to have a force larger than the one that they started with back when Dany first acquired them from the slavers. Since they are eunuchs, maybe they replicate via mitosis?
Cartoon Critique I remember watching the earlier seasons, loving the main plot but always looking forward to the Nights Watch segments, and always thinking that the white walkers would build and build and eventually become the main focus, and season 7 teased that they would be, so disappointing how it turned out :/
and pretty much her entire screen time for the last season was basically her standing around looking stern. i'd be pissed if i was Lena Heady, they screwed her over
also another thing... Why was the library so quiet? Why at any point was the inside of winterfell quiet? There are 3 dragons fighting outside as well as what I can assume is a battle with over 100,000 men and undead fighting and screaming... Why is it so quiet I can hear a mouse fart? Oh yeah... tension.
"Also, make sure the flame-throwing trebuchets go in FRONT, outside the walls, so they will be overrun." "Seriously, do NOT put them inside the castle walls where they would keep being useful until the walls were breached."
@@@kikima258 They don't understand how walls work, period. Houses still have walls for the same reason: so you'll know where people could come into the house. You don't sleep in a sleeping bag under just a roof, do you? If it isn't surrounded by walls you're a hobo and will be robbed by the other hobos. Conglaturations!
@@whitecreamymilk8436 in all fairness, it was heavy calvary doing the charge and they had a literal angel on their side (Gandalf). though they could have done a better job showing that the light he used actually hurt them, not just made them recoil. broke up the spear/pike wall at least.
@@Chirishman343 i realize that. But again it was also said this army was specifically made to kill cav. And they set up the pikes and never moved them. Also the horse bridge scene was bad. I dont think he knew how cav worked. I say this and i actually liked twin towers more then return of the king. It was a great battle the cav tactics still sucked. I liked the warg tactics earlier on though. I thought it actually worked. But cav in the seige didnt imo.
Okay so, let me get this straight: -they have a castle -they put their troops outside of the castle while defending the castle They ignored the entire point of why castles exist.
Honestly, this is just a live adaptation of a noob defending against the Vampire Counts with Norsca in Total War: Warhammer. This is exactly what NOT to do in a siege battle.
Antonio Sonntag even better the zombies aren’t gonna shoot back and they’re dumb so they could’ve easily funneled them into a choke point but no they had to keep their entire army outside the castle walls for some reason.
@Allan Mulrian True, but unlike here MATN uses his archers on the walls first then has his cavalry flank and not rush heavy infantry at the start of the battle.
Do you not think that the white walkers have any brains at all, and would siege the unsullied/dothraki/whatever inside winterfell until they all starve?
Spear/shieldwalls outside of the walls can be useful (especially when the enemy has no firepower) because it buys your archers on the walls more time to shoot at the enemy, though clearly nobody on the wall was taking advantage of this anyway
Allan Mulrian and I can win a siege battle without losing a single man because I don’t do that. I meant the AI knows it should keep its men inside the castle, not that to fight the AI you should.
Adrian Chung irrelevant, in my scenario the player is the wights, the AI is the humans. Sod it the AI is both, it still makes a better fight with better tactics. Yes human player is better, but if we start comparing this shitshow to human players let’s be honest, it is a worse comparison.
I am a tactical enthusiast, I did had a god damned stroke watching this episode. I actually screamed out loud. Only someone who knows medieval tactics could do this much wrong. They had to know what to do right, and do the opposite.
Season 1: winter is coming Season 2: winter is coming Season 3: winter is coming Season 4: winter is coming Season 5: winter is coming Season 6: winter is coming Season 7: winter is coming Season 8 episode 1: winter is coming Season 8 episode 2: winter is here Season 8 episode 3: winter is over Wtf
I have been waiting so long to see how that bitch Cersei would deal with the 'real' villain she's been mocking all this time.. but now she can just laugh off the most menacing and highly anticipated foe of the whole entire fucking tv show. Now I just wished I read the books and never seen this show.
Tbh ASoIaF still uses plot armor. Samwell should have died at the Fist, or at White Tree, or Crasters, and Jon should have died in the Skirling Pass. Its also never an important character that dies to happenstance, except maybe Khal Drogo and the infected wound.
Not five minute in and this is already the most incompetent game of Total War Warhammer I've ever seen. It seems they forgot which side of the map they were on and set their units up *backwards* .
That's not all they put there artillery right in the front so when the cavalry dies the artillery may deal enough close range damage to end them only to run out of ammo at the last second. The fucking Greenskins are better strategists than these people cause at least when they charge they are smart enough to ensure that some "sneaky git" is going to be right behind and ruin you and they are smart enough to launch squigs at you. At least they put their artillery right behind some big boyz.
"This episode was super dark." "Well it had better be, seeing as how it's the decisive battle with the White Walkers and the Night King. I'd imagine a lot of important people were going to die." "No, I mean I couldn't see shit. Only like two people died lol."
