Game of Thrones WHAT IF: Jaime KILLS Ned Stark in King's Landing 

I’m still waiting for “what IF Tywin realized he had Arya Stark?”

Robert would kill Jaime if he killed ned

Knowing King Robert...for pure entertainment...he could call Tyrion as his champion (he was Catelyns prisoner at the time, and if a champion can refuse a call or force him)...as to piss the Lannisters...and knowing Jaime loves his brother...that would be cruel but seeing Jaime hypothetically killed Ned here. Just saying lol

What if Jon had left the Nights Watch before he said his vows? What if Ned Stark had listened to Renly Baratheon and overthrew Cersei? What if Ser Barristen Selmy didn't give the paper to Cersei when Robert died? What if Jaime married Lysa Tully instead of joining the Kingsguard? What if Catelyn was wed to Jon Arryn and Ned was betrothed to Lysa? What if Syrio Forel used a real sword instead of a wooden sword against Meryn Trant? What if Lysa Arryn gave an army from the Vale to Robb Stark? I hope you make a video on one of them :)

Honestly, Tywin would probably not even try to fight, he would talk his way out oft this mess, even if that means giving up Jamie and Cersei.

Still remember in season 1 ... Tywin asks jaime "why is he still alive" Tywin must have had plans in place for such circumstances or he would have never said that ...

Pls do 'What if Jaime Lannister never joined the Kingsguard?'

dany would die even if ser barristen lives cuz he wouldn't have been stripped of the kingsgaurd

what if Robert learns the truth about jon . would ned let him kill jon or refuse.

What if Jaime Lannister took the throne after he killed the Mad King?

Fear the beard

What if Joffrey denied Margaery's proposal and stayed with Sansa after the battle of the blackwater?

Mythbuster : Is Robyn Arryn the son of Littlefinger? And by reading the previous comments, you HAVE TOO make the "What if Tywin realized he had Arya Stark" video !!

(In this scenario) I think Joffery would die if him being illegitimate was found out, but I think Tommen and Myrcella would be fostered elsewhere and forced to take the black/become a septon and join the silent sisters/become a septa (respectably), most likely the second option for both.

What if the Mad King survived the sack of King Landing?

What if Theon stabbed Ramsay while shaving?

Regardless of whether or not Barristan dies, he won't go to Essos. Remember, the only reason he went there was because he was kicked out of the King's Guard by Joffery. I doubt that Robert or Stanis would have done that to him.

What if Jamie had been sent to the wall after killing the mad king

WHAT IF: Joffrey(instead of Tommen) had to deal with the High Sparrow/Faith Militant?

What if Robert found out who Jon Snows parents were?

come on bro you gotta know only the Kingsguard can defend the crown in a tbc, which oberyn is not. Anyway Ser Jaime would DESTROY the red viper easy!

Agree with most of the things you said but i have to say, i am really surprised that you think that Oberyn would be able to defeat Jaime freaking Lannister! Jaime was the best swordsman in Westeros ( if not in the whole world ) at this point. Even George R.R. Martin said that Jaime was the best swordsman in the story before he lost his sword hand. I think that Jaime would've killed Oberyn but Oberyn would probably use a poisoned weapon in their fight so what would happen in this scenario is basically this: Jaime wins the trial by combat, kills Oberyn... but gets wounded in the process and the poison kills him a few hours later. So they both die in this scenario.

What if Aerys didnt attend the tourney at Harrenhall and Rhaegar asked the lords to support him in overthrowing his father.

Imagine robb, Robert, stannis and the blackfish fighting taywin and tyrion

There will be no trial and no capturing Jamie. Just remember, Jamie fleed from King Landing right after the fight with Ned and it would be the same if he kills him. So he would have been died in the fight between the Lanisters and Baratheons. And why would he put Cercei to the black cell? Not until he not hear about the incest and that he can only hear from Stannis.

Jaime doesn't meet Brienne :o WHAT A CRIME!

what if ellaria martell, rhaeneys and aegon targaryen lived.

What if Jaime kills Daenerys with the spear

What if Sansa told the truth (about Joffery attacking Arya)

I don't think Oberyn would have fought Jaime with a spear. He has mastered multiple weapons. He would use a sword against Jaime. He only used a spear against The Mountain because he knew he couldn't beat him with a sword.

What if the Mad King Aerys regains his sanity before Rheagar dies and what if he ( Aerys ) makes peace with Tywin, promising him that he will release Jaime from the Kingsguard and make Tywin his Hand again if he helps him defeat the rebels? Would be a great video i think.

Oberyn can't beat Jaime in a one on one. I think Jaime would win with ease, but die from a festered wound. It does matter that Jaime only knows one style, he's the best duelist in the seven kingdoms (at the time). If you're a master of your craft, it doesn't matter if you're opponent knows everything about it. This is a duel, not a game of chess game lol

WHAT IF... (drum roll)... 10 YEARS BEFORE Roberts' Rebellion... Someone in Westeros invented a rapid-fire firearm?

what if Ned killed Jamie or wounded in the same way by a stark ? what if The hound didnt steal the silver

What if Theon managed to slit Ramsay's throat when he tells him about death of Robb Stark?

Plot twist tywin realize the fight is unwinnable. takes the mountain, tyrion bronn to esos and aid danerys

* What IF Jaime Lannister gave the Iron Throne to Tywin (his father) after he killed the Mad King?

What if 'Jamie Lannister did as The Mad King ordered him during the siege of King's Landing.'

What if Catelyn kept her promise to be a mother to Jon snow and had Ned legitimize him.

I don't think tywin would go to war with robert still alive.He would probably say that it was jamie's fault,not his and get away.And ned hadn't told the truth abt cersei to anyone so cersei would probably be safe too

Excellent analysis on a subject that I'm amazed hasn't been covered yet. I feel like there's a beat missing. Just before this, Robert had sent an assassin to Essos to get Dany. He and Ned fought about it and Ned quit, right before running into Jaime. On his deathbed, Robert told Ned to call off the assassin, but it was too late anyway. I wonder if, with Ned dead, Robert would have realized his mistake sooner and called off the assassination in time to stop it. How would that have affected Dany's story?

What if Jon was legitamize by King Robert after Robert's Rebellion?

If they do actually do a prequel they gotta expand upon the starks of the time. Especially the Roberts rebellion starks.

Interestingly, pretty sure if Tyrion gets caught... which he would, there's a history, he'd be in perfect position to force his inheritance of Casterly Rock, as Tywin's sole living heir. I mean, he didn't take part in any of this, he wasn't even NEAR King's Landing.

* What IF Nymeria killed Joffery when Arya and the Baker's son were play-sword fighting?

what if Ned somehow kills Jaime?

I'd argue in that scenario that even if Selmy lives dany still does because robert wouldnt have turned him away like joffery

There is an unanswered big plot point at the end of all this, what about the Nights watch and Jon Snows story line, how would things have gone there with the events of this video?

No way Oberyn would ever beat Jaimie Jaimie in the books is meant to be unstoppable

WHAT IF: Jaime Lannister had kept his vow, and not become "The Kingslayer".

Maybe the most exciting scenario so far. Great video. Another marriage suggestion for Robert: Sansa Stark. Robert wanted to join their houses and has no heir. Maybe they discover Gendry and he would be legitimized. Jaime would even die, if he wins the fight against Oberyn. A little scratch would be enough because of the poisoned spear.

You sound real bummed out when you realized Rob Stark lives in this scenario. I think tyrion would have been executed by Catelyn if Jaimie killed Ned. Not much changed with Jon except for Janos Slynt not showing up.

Once he finds out that Joffery isn't his, Robert could also legitimize one of his bastard sons and have Sansa marry him, honoring his promise to Ned and House Stark.

Good video but I got a couple of problems with your theory 1. Jamie run away to join Tywin right after he attacked Ned so the kings guard wouldn't be able to arrest him with invading the westerlands 2 . I don't think Dorne would join Robert just cause of the fact that during the war of the five kings they could have joined Stannis to help defeat the Lannisters but didn't 3. I don't think Robert would have imprisoned his Cersei and especially not his kids just cause Jamie did something stupid doesn't mean he would punish them to

It's said that everytime someone talks about Ned Stark's death, a puppy dies out of sadness.

Jaime would destroy Oberyn

What if Knights of the Vale join Robb Stark's campaign against the Lannisters

Eddard persuade Robert to not participate um his tourney for he feared for his friend's Life (and he guessed correctly) he used Robert's pride agaisnt him, in a duel to death, to avenge his dead friend , with none to talk sense to the old drunk Demon of The Trident I supose that Bobby B would take the Warhammer against the Kingslayer....and lose to him.

You know what speaking of unlikely scenarios what about a what if little finger kill Brandon Stark video? I know it's crazy unlikely but who knows maybe he had bad footing or he accidentally picked up a blunted sword in his arrogance idk. I just kind of want to see what happens to Game of Thrones without Baelish

I agree with most of the things you said in the video except for one...I fully believe that Jaime would beat Oberyn, i like both of them very much but Jaime with two hands is practicly unstopable and i don't think that Jaime would completely humiliate or smash the Red Viper but at the end in my opinion Jaime would kill Oberyn at the trial by combat

I think cersei would find a way not to end up in a cell

Baristan from the books would destroy Jamie, Baristan in the show got killed by some stab by bois.

What If Aemon Targayen took the Throne instead passing it and going to the Night Watch? What if Ned believed The Night Watch deserter in Season 1 episode 1?

What if either joffrey or arya killed one another by the river in season 1?

Good to see you back, Kevin! Hope you are feeling better these days. Excellent spinning of this scenario. I think Margaery would DEFINITELY be the new queen in this scenario, as Mace, Loras, and Renly were already plotting to make Robert fall in love with her and make her his mistress, reveal the incest, and make her the new queen.

Oberyn is good, sure. But come on! This is jaime lannister we are talking about. He was trained and fought beside some of the greatest swordsmen westeros had ever seen (Arthur dayne, Gerald Hightower, barristan selmy so on). Saying that oberyn can win basically means he is the greatest fighter in the world which I really doubt.

the northern army alone was beating the lanister army even with the crown backing the lanisters. the crown + the north would obliterate the lanisters! once robert would find out the truth about his children he may wipe them out like he did the targarians. margery would have made the perfect bride for him. robert was a far better ruler than joffrey or cerci, but he still wasnt a very good ruler. so dany would still come for the iron thrown with dragons but she would b fighting against some of our favorite characters and the entire story would b far less addicting

What if Edmure Tully did not surrender Riverrun when he enters the castle!!

Dude, give the books a read, and then try this out. Maybe just the show alone, but you are missing key fact about each house.

What if Tyrion doesn’t get appointed to hand of the king by Tywin?

i actually doubt that he would imprison Cersei and her children. because Cersei had nothing to do with it, so he couldn't really press charges against her, and it are still oficially Baratheon. Plus at the time of Ned's death no one knew about them being bastards except for the Lannisters them self. It was only after that fight Ned found out and made it public.

To your point at the beginning Robert wouldn’t even believe Ned did something traitorous in the first place, before his dislike of the Lannisters because we see he puts that aside if he needs to keep the peace. I feel him hearing the “traitor” accusation would be all Robert needs to know that Ned was killed unjustly whatever the case was.

Is it weird that I kind of wanna see the opposite scenario I know it's unlikely Ned could have ever beaten Jamie but unlikely doesn't mean impossible and anyone can kill anyone.

Imagine if Robert never got fat he’d crush Jaime

Isn't everybody smarter than Jamie Lannister?

What if Ned ignored Littlefinger and went back to Winterfell (with his daughters) immediatly after resigning?

I hate to say it, but Ned dying sooner would have made a really cool story

What if Ned told Jon his heritage before leaving for the Nightwatch? Or even earlier to his family to keep it a welcome home for with Catelyn?

Robert would've fought Jamie in the trial by combat...he may have lost, but his pride is way too big not to do it himself

What if Ned Stark demanded a trial by combat

What if The Mad King had accepted Tywin's offer for a betrothal between Cersei and Rhaegar?

2:05 the children and Cersie both would be in house arrest

There’s a problem here. Can’t the royal family only be defended by a member of the Kingsguard? That was Cersei’s problem. She initially had no one she trusted to defend her, until Qyburn showed up with Robert Strong. This means Robert couldn’t use Oberyn. And even if he could, why would Oberyn care all that much? Why would Robert pick someone he barely knows from Dorne? Robert would likely pick someone closer to home.

I think there is a chance of Daenerys’s story playing out very similar because if Tyrion went across the narrow sea I think he could possibly take the place of Ser Barristan at that point in the story.

The tyrells wanted to marry Margery to Robert.

What if littlefinger didnt betray ned stark

Daenerys would’ve died because Barriston Selma never would’ve been released from the kings guard

Tywin would get pissed at Jaime for killing a potential valuable hostage.

What if Lyanna married Robert after Robert's Rebellion?

What IF Sansa have listen to Lord Glover and Lord Royce in Season 7 to replace Jon. What IF Brynden Tully have married Bethany Redwyne and then the siege of Storm's End would happen.

Baristan would slaughter jaime if they 1v1ed

There won't be any trial at all, robert would execute him the moment he catches Jaime. And tywin will rage a war if he have the courage, and he was stupid enough to go to the war. If the war happens Lannisters will definitely extinct.

So if ned got sean beaned a bit earlier everything would be been ok

I know I'm late but technically the red viper couldn't be the one to fight Jamie because a king's guard has to defend the the crown and royal family in duals and trials. That's cersei's whole problem in Feast/Dance when the faith accuses her. She had to have a member of the KG defend her. Anyways that means Jamie would most likely win his trial.

Oberyn would destroy the Kingslayer. I'm honestly really bummed we never got to see Jamie fight. I know he's one of the best swordsman in the kingdoms but since we only saw him fighting Ned, held his own against him, makes me really doubt the king slayer was actually that good. He never really had any feats or anything like that. Anyway. Sure fighting tournaments are a good way to show your skill, but a real fight is way more showing than anything like that.

Daenerys dies either way. Barristan was only there to save her due to Joffrey firing him. Even if he survives the initial fight with Jaime, Robert WOULDN'T fire him, so he would have no reason to sail across the Narrow Sea to save Daenerys.

Swordsmen>spearman

jaime would never kill ned he seeks his respect

Didn't Jaime ran away to Lannisport or Casterly Rock?

I disagree. I don't think Robert would imprison Cersei. Tywin has too much gold and too much power over the throne. He could single handedly buy the Golden Company and march the Lannister forces on King's Landing, or get the Iron Bank to call in Robert's debts. No, he's still too dangerous a man to cross. Jaime would be tried, but Oberyn hates King Robert as well as Tywin since he can't be 100% sure Tywin was the one to give the Mountain the order to kill Elia and her kids. There's a small chance that it was Robert and Oberyn never moved on either for this reason. He'd stay out of it, though he might come to watch the trial by combat, to see what unfolds and whether he can learn anything new from the situation. There is also a law that a King must be represented by his king's guard in a trial by combat, so Robert would have to choose one of them, but seeing as he can anoint new kings guards at will, who he replaces Jaime with would be the likely champion of Robert. Barriston Selmy isn't as old and weak as he appears.. Even at his age, he'd be a match for Jaime. Robert might also sway the Mountain to his side. Remember, Clegane's Keep is a small estate. Robert could strike a deal where the Mountain is made kings guard with an agreement that as soon as Jaime is dead, he'll be released from the kings guard and given a much nicer bit of land and title, possibly even marrying him to Lysa Arryn to give him the Vale. Then it's Jaime vs. the Mountain, brain and dexterity vs brute strength and size. I'd say they're evenly matched.