What If Ned Stark takes the Iron Throne INSTEAD of Robert Baratheon after Robert's Rebellion? How would the landscape of Westeros have been different?!? FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @TheSAPeacock
TheBattProductions no Robert loved battle and wanted to abdicate and leave for Essos and be a sell sword the only thing stopping him was that Joffrey would be king.
@@gracecookie4604 I think Viserys would have been raised with integrity if he lived with Stannis. The problem would be the Theon effect, other people constantly reminding him his father was beaten by the people he lives with.
Robb would be betrothed to Daenerys. Ned would bring back Jon with him and proclaim him Lyanna's and Raegar's child. Under royal protection, and to be betrothed to King Ned's daughter to come. That would both protect Jon and the Starks claim to the throne. No need to rebel if the old blood is still in line to inherit the throne
Jynessa Swann I definitely see your point and it would be really interesting There's absolutely no rule in westeros about cousin marrying so that would totally work to
i actually think the best thing ned could have done is to support renl being king and sent out ravens to everyone that he supports renly that way they would have the whole north, riverrun, tyrells and most baratheons army and the lannistres would be no competition nor would stanis and dorne would just keep out of it all
I think Jon would have ended up beeing "son" of Benjen "lord of winterfell", I mean Benjen wouldn't be married at that moment so it would be easy for him and Ned to pass of Jon as Benjen´s legitimate son and that way they could protect Jon better
MsAsh and Shinobi made great points for me. I didn't give him to Benjen because I just can't see a safer scenario than that one (no one goes to Greywater Watch) and Jon's Targaryen lineage is completely hidden.
Shinobi Acumen and there's no any problem with that, I mean Benjen is Lyanna's brother he is worth of knowing the truth about his sisters son, even in the series/books is very likely for Benjen to the truth about Jon and what better place to take care about Jon than winterfell with his family?
I'm pretty sure that Dany would have to marry rob in this scenario. Not like forced. more like trying to unite the kingdom's. and while dragons won't be around I think that the kingdom would take the white walker threat more seriously and the wall would be better guarded... But still not dragons
If Ned had seized control he would not have named himself king. Jon (Snow) Targaryen would have been the rightful king in Ned's eyes, he would have named Jon as the king and Ned would have served as Jon's hand until Jon came of age.
Bart Bouwman the north can raise more soldiers than the stormlands and the targaryens were scarred when the northern army was going to kings landing during the dance of dragons. and we shall add the crownlands army, it isn't a big army, but is the north wins, with or without the crownlands army
busq most likely way I see Ned on the throne is Robb dying from injuries sustained in his fight against Rhagar and people bowing to him like Robb's King in the North scene and thrusting the role on him that way. In that scenario, Robert's oppinion is moot.
Ned wouldn't allow Tywin his freedom after the Sack and the murder of the royal family. pretty good chance that Tywin loses his head once the rest of the rebel army gets to KL. Tyrion would inherit the Rock, though he was still young, like 10 or so.
Here's a way for them to still keep them. Let's say their uncle Ben finds those pups when he's out and about at winterfell and brings them as gifts to the children if he makes visits to Kings landing or gifts them to them at winterfell when they come to visit him there.
he will always try! lol i dont think he would have been given his position if it wasnt for the Tully girl having the ear of Jon Arryn and Roberts complete disinterest in actually governing. Ned only tolerated him because he had already became "untouchable" by that point. you could argue that this could still happen due to Ned likely choosing Jon Arryn as hand as well but i dont think the massive debt would have been overlooked by Neds administration so I dont think Ned would have enabled him to have the gold cloaks in his pocket either. he would probably mess around and get his head lopped off f'ing with Neds realm lol
Denis Lappos if she doesn't get killed at the red wedding probably the same thing that happened in her main story anyway cause Sandor tried taking Arya to the Vale after the red wedding and might just do the same with Sansa. So shelf just be right where she is suppose to.
@@stannisbaratheon1628 then why did he get his head sliced off? you cna only call yourself a king if acknowledged by the rest of the seven kingdoms. stannis died a percieved rebel and traitor.
Yup... Cersei and Benjen would oddly work out... Provided that she's in Winterfell and she defers to Benjen. Plus she would narcissistically be gratified as both "princess and lady of winterfell" and having an actual family man betrothed to and honouring her.. No Joffrey, Myrcella or Tommen. The children are Starks and Lannisters (Tywin gets a grandson he may want in Casterly Rock and has him married to another distant Lannister for the sake of Eugenics). Ned keeps Jaime to lead the gold cloaks or a mid rank kings guard. Assigning him to look after Bran and Rickon. Occupying him with enough duty to not end up being an idiot (Killing or fucking anyone he shouldn't). Dorne, Dragonstone and Highgarden each have a seat in Small Council.
I think Ned would give his nephrew to his brother Benjen. Cersi and Benjen would raise him.which would basically put him in the same scenario that he grew up in in the first place....evil step mom.
Very possible for sure. I can't say it totally wouldn't happen, but in my mind: the Reeds are safest. However, Winterfell is also possible! :) Good stuff, Maxine.
@@TheBattProductions if anything it would be a combination of the Reeds and Benjin Westerosi royalty often use fostering of children as a way to keep bonds and alliances, and Ned would want Jon to have some of that North in him at his own home of Winterfell. He knows Benjin's a good man and would foster him well and Ned could use this custom to maybe hint or even tell Jon through Benjin about his true parentage when hes older. The honorable Ned would instate Jon as King asap and this would all tie in rather well The Reeds raise Jon, hes Fostered at Winterfell, then comes to King's Landing and takes his throne
The throne wouldn't be in such massive debt. Ned wouldn't throw parties and tournament's all the time. So he wouldn't owe the Iron bank so much. Plus Ned wouldn't be cheating all the time so the succession would be much more clear cut on his death.
I think this is an excellent "what if" scenario, because its more plausible than what we might think. Although it did not happen, it is more than believable that Eddard could have thought that Robert would not have been suitable for the crown, so therefore he "takes" the throne. Here I think he would proclaim himself King of the Seven Kingdoms, but that would likely change later. Jaime would more than likely have been sent to the wall, however, this would only occur if Jaime decided to not disclose the reason why he killed the mad king. Since Ned is a just person, he would've give Jaime a trial, and in this trial Jaime could have revealed in very Tyrion like manner that he "saved you all". This trial could go in three directions: Jaime going home, Jaime taking the black, or trial by combat. Depending upon the outcome of this, the relationship between the Starks and the Lannisters would shape around it. If Jaime is sent to the wall, the most likely outcome, Tywin would be largely be indifferent, since Jaime was a "celibate" Kingsguard anyway. Ned would make up for this, by proposing that Benjen and Cersei marry, which Tywin would take time to consider. I think during all this mess, Ned would be stuck in Kings Landing, so Robert would have been ordered to march south and break the siege of Storms End, then continued south to the Tower of Joy... Robert, along with Howland Reed, would have defeated Ser Arthur Dayne in a similar manner, then proceeded to the tower. Here, things get EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. I think Lyanna would have a similar "promise me" conversation with Robert, and as a result, the kind side of Robert would prevail. I know that sounds crazy, but Robert loved Lyanna, and would fulfill that promise, except in a possibly different manner. Robert could take Jon as his bastard, and possibly have a Tyrion-esque relationship of resentment, because Jon's father was Rhaegar, or Robert would return to Kings Landing and present the child to Ned, which is the most likely outcome. Here, Ned would proclaim Aegon Targaryen (Jon) the King of the Seven Kingdoms, and name himself Lord Protector, Hand of the King. Politics at this point would become incredibly difficult to determine, but The North would likely revert back to Ned, which means the Benjen-Cersei marriage is off, inevitably leading to Robert's and Cersei's marriage. To keep the peace, Ned would name Tywin master of coin, Robert master of war, and Jon Arryn master of laws to the council. Varys would likely still serve as master of whispers, Barristan Selmy would become the proud lord commander of the Kingsguard, Jaime might become first ranger and eventually lord commander of the Night's Watch. Benjen would have to be the Stark in Winterfell while Ned is staying down south, so I do not think he would join the Night's Watch. In regards to Daenerys and Viserys, the most likely outcome is that they return home some time shortly after Ned proclaims Aegon King of the Seven Kingdoms, and they become wards. Dany would likely be betrothed to Robb, but Viserys might play out a bit differently. He could attempt to take the throne, trying to claim that Aegon is illegitimate, but would definitely fail. As you said, the Greyjoy rebellion would still occur, but get struck down again. Essentially, the realm would look much better in this scenario, but we still have to consider Littlefinger, and how he might attempt to disrupt it all.
I'm not sure Ned would take it because how he questions Robert's ability to rule. BUT Robert was very injured after the Trident, and THAT would be a good reason for Ned to take the Throne...unsure if Robert would survive his injuries.
The ToJ scenario would change dramatically, too. Robert was injured at the Trident (that's why Ned went ahead), so without the pressure to be there and take his crown, he might have taken longer to convalescence. And Ned left King's Landing pretty swiftly because of his disagreement with Robert. I cannot see Robert being equally offended with Ned's decisions. Also, I don't recall a single mention of Robert wanting to continue searching for Lyanna (as new King he couldn’t leave but we're not told he even wanted to?) so I cannot see him in a state of urgency. One could argue that Ned sends him onward BUT we don't know what Ned at this point suspected or new of Lyanna's story and whereabouts. Howland Reed was with him and I would bet he knew not everything was as it seemed. So Ned maybe wouldn’t have wanted for Robert to find Lyanna without Ned checking himself first on the situation. But Robert does depart to lift the seige of Storm's End. It is his keep so he probably sticks arounf a little longer than Ned. And then departs to... Where exactly? We don't know how Ned found ToJ. He clearly knew where to go and he picked a handful of trusted men. Whoever told Ned where to look, probably wouldn't have told Robert? He would have to wander vaguely southward hoping to find something? It is quite likely that Lyanna would've died and the Kingsguard made their next move before being found. So, even if he stumbled upon the abandoned tower and found Lyanna's body left behind, there would be no Kingsguard to fight or baby to discover. Maybe they could tell that the lady had given birth prior to death - dry air would slow decomposition? So, Robert could only come back to Ned with the body and a story of runaway Kingsguard with a baby. Or maybe bring back bones only and not mention the possibility of a baby out there? To either spare Ned pain in imagining his sister's sorry fate or to secretly find the child himself to dispense "justice" he fears Ned might hesitate to give.
Christian Djami Then Doran Martell would do a similar plan to restoration house targaryen, and his brother the red viper would help them to be ready for a plan to attack or start a rebellion.
Depends on which theory you believe. I think he still is Ned's kid, but w/Ashara before he was forced to marry Cat. Jon is a bit older than Rob, so would make a better claim to Winterfell, especially if Ned and Ashara were already married before he was forced to marry Cat for the war. Some others channels talk about this pretty convincingly, mainly Order of the Greenhand.
Here's a what if for the future rather than the past: What if Cersei finds out that LF and Lady O are the actual culprits behind Joffrey's death. I know she seems content with thinking Tyrion did it, but as a mother (& justice for her son) wouldn't she want the truth as well as *act* on it?
Kuba Steinhoff if the Tyrells for some reason would've stayed with Renly I guess there would be four golden haired heads stinking atop some gate in King's Landing, the Old Lion would rot in some hole and Mannis would sit on the iron throne.
This scenario could potentially change a lot in Westeros, and possibly the Targaryens could have been welcomes back as advisers. Given the role of women in Westeros until the events unfolding, I would believe that Daenarys would be largely ignored other than as chattel to be married off, but Ned seems like the type who would have had Viserys ready to either join the Small Council or the King's Guard. That would only work if Viserys were Stannis's ward, but it creates some interesting implications for longer peace. I also think Ned would have lasted longer than Robert, because he doesn't have a repeatedly raped and angry Cersei plotting to rid him from her life and bed. These "what-ifs" create a LOT of potential fanfiction!
Totally! I'm glad you think it could easily be that way. I agree. I think you make a great point about SO MUCH could be an off-shoot for fan fiction. Good stuff, Jennifer.
kiannedra goins the show would have had to circle Dorne in more with the Targaryean restoration plan and Quentyn Martell. Just so she has a sizeable army to take Cerci.
TheBattProductions Then Robb, Sansa, Bran, Arya, rickon all of these characters would not existed, and their storylines cut off, then what will be Jon snow he might have a different life with ned?
I think it is unlikely Ned would bring Little Finger onto the Small Counsel. Catlyen would probably advise Ned not to trust him.But, even if he did, I think Little Finger would have trouble getting the Kingdom into such deep debt with Ned Stark on the Iron Thorn. Ned is far more pragmatic than Robert and would not allow such frivolous spending. One issue that would provide a challenge to Ned is his religion. Since he keeps the Old Gods, the Faith might not support him. So in order to maintain a strong alliance, it is likely that The Starks would arrange for Rob to marry Margary Tyrell. Having a Tyrell alliance would allow for the Starks to maintain control of the kingdom far more easily.
What is Daenerys was retrieved from Dragonstone and married to Robb? or if Rhaenys Targaryen survived and was married to Robb? (This would give Robb a claim to the throne during the War of the Five Kings so it would affect things with Renly and Stannis. Also as he was taking the throne maybe he'd get more allies? Tyrells? Martells? Both Targaryen loyalists and the latter are related to Rhaenys. Also how would it affect Jon having his aunt or sister living with him) if Rhaenys then Daenerys still has Dragons and is aware of someone alive with a stronger claim than her.
I think if Robert would have been killed in battle but Robert/Ned's side still won then Ned would have become king. I think that was a very real possibility.
Just found your channel. And this is definitely what I have been looking for especially a lot of what ifs pop into mind when watching got. Gonna go through the rest you have made so far
I personally think that Tywin would enjoy Jaime returning to the Westerlands considering how much of an insult it was to him when Aerys put Jaime as Kingsguard. And considering Jaime's cynicism and having been fed up with this duty I can assume he'd be happy about it too
Really cool channel. I love how the lore of game of thrones can be different just by one change of plot. Continue your good work you are my favorite game of thrones channel.
I can see an Sansa-Loras Tyrell arranged marriage to keep House Tyrell on side, and maybe an Arya-Tristane Martell marriage to satiate them. The Martell’s had a lot of respect for the Starks, and if they rebelled would be the toughest to conquer, so it would make sense. Plus I can see Arya, in her strong-willed character, seek out Oberyn Martell for training. Can you imagine how happy Arya would be in a place like Dorne with Oberyn Martell training her?!
I think that if Ned would make Jamie let go of white cloak and would not send him to the Wall. This, in turn, could benefit his relation with Tywin. Tywin was angry at the mad king for taking away his heir to the Casterly Rock by making Jamie one of the king's guard. Therefore if Jamie would be free of his duty Tywin would be content. I imagine Jon would be sent to Winterfell to be taken care by Benjen since he is Lyana’s son. I doubt that Ned would ask Reed to take care of Jon cause I think Ned would feel it’s his duty to keep the promise he made Lyana moreover Jon is Stark’s blood and Ned thinks Starks should stick together. Therefore Benjen would have to know the truth about Jon’s parentage but still, Jon would be known to all as Ned’s bastard.
DamorkaDalilla I don't think he'd be known as bastard, if Rob's not king then Ned has less to fear for Jon's life, idk where Jon would grow up but I think he would grow up a Stark :)
Honestly Benjen would have probably tried to pass Jon off as his own bastard in that case, not Ned's. Also with Ned taking the throne, it would be a lot harder to cover-up the timing of the appearance of this new mystery baby.
I very nearly didn't bother with this one, thinking that it would just be too different to be worthwhile. You proved me wrong! I think that this is one of your best!
Very good points across the board, dude. Though, I have to say that if Ned sends Jaime to the Wall & doesn't have Tywin killed, then he's got a serious problem on his hands. Twin's been waiting for his opportunity to free up his heir since Aerys named him to the Kingsguard (And looking to repay the insult of having him named in the 1st place) & Ned sending him to the Wall would've been just another insult to be avenged when the moment was right. Add Littlefinger to this scenario & Ned eventually meets the same end he did fucking with Cersei. Additionally, as long as Rhaegar's family was still murdered in the sack of KL, Dany & Viserys are still spirited away & Ned doesn't get custody of them.
The way ned would take the throne is the same reason he did everything else he didn't want to. If it could be expresed to him as a duty, a responsibility, not a privlage. Convince him its something he has to do for the good of the realm and his honour and pride would force him to do it
Disagree with you on one point, Jon Snow, Ned lied to protect him from Robert. No need in your what if, Jon can be revealed as who he is, and even be next in line for the throne after Ned. A Targ, 2,0, made better with Stark blood.
That would destroy any hope of him having a successful alliance with the Baratheons, at least as long as Robert is alive. Also it would completely break the line of succession, I don't think too many people would be keen to install Rhaegar's son as king after many of them just fought and died to dethrone his lunatic father.
I think the point Game of Thrones has strongly made up until this point is that it doesn't matter what scenario played out, winter is coming and so are the white walkers.
OooooOOooOO I like that! That's a good one! I wonder....Hmm. Probably wouldn't have been the insanity that happened to the Starks! Good suggestion Deep :)
I don't think Ned would want Littlefinger on his small council due to PB's relationship with the Tully's and Starks. It would make Ned uncomfortable knowing that PB had fought for his wife against his brother
That would be awesome. Davos would be hand, Jon Arryn would be Master of Coin, Ned would be Master of Laws, Renly would be Master of Whispers, Pycelle would've be Grand Maester, and Godry Ferring would've been Master of The King's Guard. I don't who Stannis would've married, it might've been Selyse, it could've been Cersei, that I'm not sure of.
I feel like Visarys would be tamed by Stannis if he was his ward, and Visarys was the one pushing for taking back the throne originally not Dany so idk if anything would happen. Both Stannis and The Tullys would probably be loyal to the new Stark throne so they wouldn't allow it to happen even if Visarys wasn't mellowed. Ned might also end up letting Oberin Martell excecute the Mountain to help bring the Dornish onto the Starks side and not rebel. Also if the whole poisoning Jon Aryn plot still happens that's would probably be the time when Tywin Lannister could weasle his way into hand of the Kings position.
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Late as usual What if Ned declares Jon the rightful king of the Seven Kingdoms after returning from The Tower of Joy?
First of all, let me say that I really do love these videos :) I would love to have a discussion with you on several of them, but let's stay with this one for now :) 1: The premise, as you say, is suspect to the max. But yes, we'll go with it :) 2: Even in the "original" storyline, there were still Targaryen loyalists around - and enough for Robert to be genuinely concerned, as he says to Ned on the way to King's Landing: "There are still those who call me usurper". Now, the reason it was Robert who took the throne, was because that there is a very tiny shred of legitimacy around him due to his Targaryen grandmother. Ned doesn't have that. So the straw that Targaryen loyalists who didn't really wanna go on fighting could cling to ("Well....he's part Targaryen at least?") wouldn't be there. Meaning that Ned's position would be a lot more precarious. 3: Knowing Ned's character, there's no way he's going to let Tywin into his Small Council. He's not likely to have him killed, because he's likely to listen enough to people like Jon Arryn to make the call that this would only cause more havoc in a realm that is already trying to recover from civil war. The Mountain dies, completely agree there. Jaime? I could realistically see him executing Jaime, not only for his act of kingslaying, but for his refusal to protect Rhaenys and "Aegon" from the Mountain. But in the case that he doesn't do THAT, Jaime is going to the Wall, period. Ned would never "release" someone from the Kingsguard to go back to being heir to Casterly Rock. It's completely and utterly unprecedented and caused a metaphorical earthquake when Joffrey kicked out Barristan. Even Tywin pointed out that this was stupid. So Jaime either goes to the Wall, or to the block. Ned's dedication to his honor forbids any other solution. This will mean that Tyrion is the only remaining heir to Casterly Rock, btw ;) 4: Viserys and Daenerys. I completely agree - Ned would not have murdered them. But I also don't think that he would have merely settled for letting them become wards. Ned is politically inept to say the least, but his advisors (Jon Arryn, Robert and Stannis Baratheon) wouldn't be. They'd know that as long as a single Targaryen remained alive, there would be the threat of the massive numbers of Targaryen loyalists (see point #2) rising up against them. The solution: Send Viserys to the Night's Watch, and Daenerys to the Silent Sisters. Both of them would be completely harmless politically by doing that, forever excluded from any claims to anything, but alive. This would be a solution that satisfies both Ned's honor, AND the political necessities. 5: I agree: Cersei and Benjen are likely to be married. For two reasons: 1: To keep Tywin Lannister content, at least, and still connected to the Royal family, thereby ensuring the Westerlands aren't going to brew a rebellion. 2: There are very few eligible candidates for marriage for either of them: I can't off the top of my head think of any available women that would be high enough status for the Lord of Winterfell to marry, other than Cersei. And for Cersei it's basically a choice between Robert Baratheon (who Tywin hated) and Benjen. Benjen, as the King's brother, is by far the better match. 6: I don't believe that Littlefinger is going to be on Ned's Small Council. Ned was well aware of the history Littlefinger had with his family, and with his Queen, and I don't think that simply being a good moneygrubber is going to be enough. Remember, that it was for Robert Baratheon (whose family had no prior quarrel with Littlefinger) that he was recommended. I don't think Jon Arryn would recommend Littlefinger for Ned. 7: About the mopey bastard :P I think that's actually a quite realistic solution: Hand baby Jon off to Howland Reed. That, or back to Winterfell as "the king's bastard", but I think #1 is more likely. All in all I do love you for making these videos, and though I'm not a RU-vid star, so you don't need to give a shit about anything I have to say, I would love to hear what your thoughts are about the points I bring up here :)
Ned would put Tywin as Master of Coin, Jon Arryn as King's Hand, Robert as Master of War, Stannis as Master of ships, Varys or Littlefinger as Master of Whisperers, Pycell as Grand Maester and maybe Hoster Tully as Master of Laws and Barriston as Commander of the Kingsguard.
Thanks a lot Yahia! :) I think book Daenerys is fine. Not my favorite character, but still pretty good. I think she appears tougher on the show though.
Down the line years later about the timeline when the show starts Tywin would have definitely had found a way to have his granddaughter marry Rob Neds Heir. I think Ned would have had his brother take John. I think Benjin knew.
have no idea why this popped up for me 6 years later but one thing i think might have changed with Ned being in charge would probably be that the wall would have more manpower from prisioners etc being sent to it, as i think i recall them saying that it had declined in recent years the ammount of people who got sent to the wall from the south.
Ehh Illyrio and Varys had a goal of putting on the Iron Throne a worthy ruler.. Not sure Varys has a high opinion of Eddard but still he'd be a much better ruler than Robert- fairer to the people. Something that both of the aforementioned men would respect. How the dragon eggs come into this equation isn't calculable, but perhaps the dragons might have a shot of birth? I dunno- a wedding gift for Robb and Daenerys perhaps?
In the case of Jon Snow I actually think one of two things will happen. 1. Ned takes Jon as his ward prince type person and since Jon is Targaryen, Ned would raise Jon to be an honorable, good, just king to take his place. John would basically be raised as the prince of Kings Landing as opposed to the bastard of Winterfell and in the event that Jon actually did die the throne would pass down to Robb who in this scenario would be second in line to the throne, and if Jon did grow up to be king and Benjen never actually had kids then Robb would become warden of the north and Lord of Winterfell (this one I think is more likely) 2. Jon is raised as Benjen’s son. He would probably be raised as a bastard still and maybe even join the nights watch but I doubt that would happen, and if Benjen didn’t have any sons, Jon would probably become Lord of Winterfell
How to get support for the wall? Jamie as maybe commander by the would go in person to convince his father, because of Tywin's place on the castle for support from the King.
I do believe if bed had taken the throne, Jaime would of gotten a chance to state his case to him at some point following, given the fact that he is a sworn sword to the king. In that case I believe Ned would of seen his side and given him a choice of how he would like to proceed. As he did save king landing. As you said Ned was an honourable man, but he himself wasn’t a stupid man
I think that it would be very likely if Robert Baratheon asked Ned to do it. Which is definitely possible. Also imagine how cool it would be if Jamie Lannister were first ranger instead of benjen. That would be crazy.
There's a couple things: one, I don't think little fingers scheming would have got as far, I believe a lot of that had to do with Robert being a very inattentive king. Second I think Neds character traits would be slightly different due to ruling as king, if he did embrace it rather than reject it.
This is one the most favorite things I love to think about, for me though the council line up would either be 1st line up Jon arryn - hand Robert - master of war Tywin- master of coin Whispers - varys Laws - either stannis or renly Ships - probably a good seafaring house to bring more houses to his side, so either velaryon but most likely redwyne or stannis (cause he as a naval commander was really good during the greyjoy rebellion The 2nd line up would be Tywin- hand Robert - war Jon - laws Ships - stannis or redwyne Coin- tyrion as he has his fathers mind Whispers - varys And for both the line ups for me it would have to be luwin so to limit the lannisters amount of allies And I will never in my possible line ups have littlefinger because no matter how good he is with money he is sleazy as hell, and even ned being as somewhat as naive as he is in politicking can see how much of a scumbag littlefinger was 😂
2 years late but here is my 2 cents. The problem with this scenario is that Eddard couldn't be king for two big reasons. 1st he has no claim at all on the Iron Throne, the reason why Robbert was chosen to be king wasn't because of right of conquest but because his grandmother was a Targaryen so in a way he had a claim to the Iron Throne. 2nd because he does not follow the faith of the seven. The seven kingdoms might tolerate the North following the Old Gods as well as one or two lesser houses in the south like the Blackwoods but I don't think they would be very happy with a king who follows the old gods, we would probably end up with a similar situation that Meagor faced
Tywin was once Hand to the King under Aerys II, he would not accept being Master of Coin, which would be a step down for him. His brother, Kevan on the other hand...
