Gareth Thomas vs Eddie Butler | classic Scrum V 2006 

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Jiffy always keeps it real 😂

Meh, this never gets said anywhere enough as it should, but Ruddock just continued Steve Hansen's work. The rugby we were playing towards the end of Hansen's tenure was incredible. Ruddock didn't really change anything when he took over.

@@FruitFlyKilla 10 wins in 29 I didn't enjoy under him. Ruddocks rugby team was 👌

good coach but definitely flawed by all accounts. seems like his own worst enemy at times, lacking confidence/ambition perhaps? there are far, far worse flaws to have and it's a shame wales effectively drove him and his family to ireland. however, if the story told in recent slammed documentary is true about his pre match speech, it does show that he was far from the full package as a coach. wales did play outstanding rugby under ruddock, especially given how weak their forward pack was (particularly the front 5), but a lot of it was to do with rae talents like shane williams and gavin henson, as well as the other great players of that era. it wasn't all ruddock, that much is true.

Motorhead, more like Motormouth wanker from Sarn.

The fashions of 2006...

i hurt my leg in the falklands conflict

and your source is .. ????

Thomas is vile

@@stavrosgeorgios5577 Hello. I have to agree with you there about this twat. I unfortunately met him once and never ever again, he's just an overrated jumped up celebrity and I don't give a shit if he's got HIV. he's brought it on himself.

Thomas was the better player, Butler was an average loose forward. Thomas played 100 matches for Wales, Butler played 16.

the more I read about this twat the more I can't stand him. never again will I make a mistake of meeting this creep

it seems more than plausible, doesn't it. gareth thomas was a good player but you can see how it was bittersweet for wales. he had the ego that welsh players seem to lack, and that meant he ended up captain, but that didn't come without its problems.

@@Mr___X yes that is true, and he was a good player and brave to a fault, maybe this wasn't true so it was in a book, I also think getting him on tv to argue with butler who is ever the antagonist was wrong, his playing has never been in question

attention seeking diva ..? most of them are ..

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. GT had completely lost the plot at this point, with the Grand Slam and then being made Lions captain after the 1st test in 2005 I think he thought he was untouchable. Made a real fool of himself here. Terrible that he collapsed afterwards and thankfully recovered.

Giving himself a prostate exam.

Hope he got the George Cross for his bravery.

@@littlesebastian4389 Giving half of Clapham common a prostate exam.

i hurt my leg in the falklands conflict

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He wound him up

This Oxbridge malarkey is much ado about nothing. Now, if you're talking about varsity-at-its-best, let me shout out for Uxbridge Poly, my alma mater of choice, where I took all the glittering prizes, a starred double-whammy no less, in taxidermy.

I like what you have written to be honest with you. at least you haven't bragged about breaking your bones or nose. I can honestly say that this moron(G. Thomas) is one overrated celebrity. I had the misfortune of meeting him and never ever again.

yeah but you haven't broken your thumb playing for your country SO MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT, EH?

journalists are scum

That's why Gatland was the perfect appointment! Apparently the players were only doing contact sessions once a week for the 2007 RWC and refused to do any more. Gatland come in and completely eradicated that culture straight away and i'll always remember his first interview when he said he was going to try and 'break' some of the players mentally and see who was truely up for test level rugby. In hindsight, i'm not surprised whatsoever that he didn't approach Gareth Thomas when he pulled Martyn Williams out of retirement.

I think it's a bit more simple than that. The Welsh was just poor in 2007, players and coaches. England won in 2003 because they were the most professional. A lot of teams caught up by 2007 which is why the rugby was so bad (kick tennis). Gareth Jenkins and Wales were still treating it like the amateur days. So when they came up against Fiji, a team that has an amateur ethos themselves, it produced a great game that Wales lost. The Welsh team has had internal problems for ages, even under Gatland and when they've won tournaments. Lack of natural leadership, big personalities, and splits in the dressing room. Standard catty stuff that comes out years later in the biographies.

Sticking it up other men's arse holes

Gareth like to see the back of other men.

@@stephenguppy3466 Twat.

Winds him up you mean 😂

It's a "discussion" in every pub every night. It's just missing a few beers and the escalation to "step outside. for calling me a liar". Eddie is saved by the presence of the camera.

In fairness, Gareth Thomas was never a natural 15.

eastender ? Pot calling the kettle etc .

G Thomas is absolutely vile. no wonder his film never got made.

I absolutely agree with you about that and I feel sorry for his ex after what I read about him being controlling and coercive but as a gay bloke myself, it would haunt me if I didn't come clean about being HIV positive and my partner finding out through other people.

@@robertevans4165 well said and respect to you. Gareth Thomas, great rugby player but a See You Next Tuesday of a human being

lol I'm so glad someone else has noticed this!

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, I have plenty of times seen him.....uhhhhhhhhh....... *grins like a hobbit who just silent farted at Rivendel.*

Ketchup and HP

@wildebest Underrated comment.

Hes a stabber from the back alright💩💩

@WRU286 No he wasnt picked after last playing against Fuji at World Cup. He publicly stated he wouldnt retire from Wales. Wasnt wanted as disrupted environment apparently

@WRU286 cool!

you only need to see the jobs he's had since (scotland head coach ffs, now back with australia) to see he's a slipper customer who knows how to profit from his boss's demise.

I heard he had him in an headlock and pink boots couldn't get free 😂😂

100% true, sources say

@@hugostiglitz4777 is that meant to be a euphemism?

Who has

I reckon it was Ketchup

Sources you muppet.

@@robertevans4165 what have you ever done for Welsh rugby? Apart from being homophobic

​@@richardlloyd166how is that homophobic? Gareth Thomas is a narcissist and portrays himself as a victim, when in reality he is out there giving people hiv.

you no this how?

@@joninton6678 How do i know amateur players break bones jog on you flaming idiot!

While watching a televised recording of an interview he had given regarding the resignation of Ruddock, he fell ill and was rushed to hospital with a suspected stroke, brought on by a ruptured artery in his neck.

@@WaferBrik Great wonderful a year on you write this,fuck off.

You're prob right but to be honest the only people that really know are the ones involved

It was an open secret years before he came out officially.

Yeh they reckon he'd disappear from team hotel to go to the gay scene wherever wales would be on tour

Camper than a row of pink tents!!

@@leonwilliams4327 Rupaul, is it you ?

That's what they say about you

Would be a bit ironic since he is a giant mincer himself.

Sarn postman, Sarn Wanker more like

Cheap.

That's the nickname his boyfriends gave him.

That's what they say about you

@@sergejisd whose they?

@@andrewcahill9735 your mates

As long as it wasn't HP. Ha!! Now, that would be sacrilege.

As long as you didn't have it up your arse

A gay hero

Gareth loves head.

Why is he a clown?.

He was one of the best players ever to play for Wales. What have you ever achieved?

@@richardlloyd166 If you could point out where i questioned his skills and ability that would be great.......I'll wait.

@@peterlockhart8739 ‘oh and also hurt his thumb for his country … not a great look’ Yes belittling a Welsh rugby captain who’s achieved more than you ever have. That’s my point.

rorsabest agreed. Gareth Thomas did create this problem with Gerard Depardieu. Gareth Thomas is an extremely fortunate man in many cases. Great that he’s come out and had acceptance in the world. Good luck to him. However, he’s made a huge amount of money from doing so. However, he should look back in shame at the whole Mike Ruddock debacle. Wales had been ordinary for many years. Suddenly Ruddock comes in and develops and creates a winning formula. Gareth Thomas and his mate Depardieu decided to create friction within the squad and team dynamic because they were jealous of Ruddock’s success. Disgraceful.

@@vantheman1234 Wales were well below ordinary for many years and were being left way behind, even NZ coaches couldn't change Welsh fortunes. A lot of back-stabbing went on after the 2005 success, especially among the senior players. They didn't rate Mike as head coach - he was more a delegator and yes, much jealously, especially after his MBE.

im welsh wholeheartdly agree with you

i think a lot of them were already full of themselves tbf. rugby going professional did that. don't forget they had a genuinely impressive go at the 2003 world cup, nearly beating england in the quarter finals. the regions formed and the welsh dominated the celtic league in the early years. and then they won the grand slam. the welsh players knew how good they were, they'd pushed south africa and new zealand right to the wire just before the 2005 six nations. they just lacked leadership and a strong authority figure who was also up to the job/not just training for the all blacks job like hansen was. ruddock couldn't do it, gareth jenkins couldnt do it, but gatland could. it's that simple. wales naturally lacks leaders and the big personalities ended up getting the right coach for the job by being disruptive. in a way, it worked. look at ireland under schmidt: too loyal, too trusting, even when they're playing the most boring rugby in the world, and it ends up backfiring when it counts in the world cup.

@OhDannyBoyThePipes …Why, Delilah?

shut up you melt

Not sure how you could watch this and come to that conclusion. Your great hero resorted to ranting hysterically...

@@SuperMandelson yeah he sounded like someone drunk down the bar speaking piss

@@SuperMandelson called passion