Derek in this video looks at the changes made by gas safe to technical bulletin 118 the electrical safety of gas engineers. He goes through the new 12 steps to safety laid out by gas safe.
The thing that really annoys me is that regarding multimeters. We who do repairs have them and most often need them to test thermistors,variable votages and continuity and yet are not trusted to use the same tool to test for 1 of those features 240v. My last gas safe inspector told me I should be wearing a portable monoxide detector for entering people's homes. I said what about when I go out socially and he said yes there too. I think I will just take my analyser with me to the pub
I’ve had two major electrical belters in my 50 year career, both of which could’ve killed me. 1. I became the Conductor when touching two separate bits of Electrical conduit. I was a lot younger at the time, but it really was bad & I was not right for a couple of days. Frightening really. 2. On a New Build & connecting an external Gas Pipe. Luckily I was wearing gloves with Rubber covered palms & just got a buzz. Now, I could’ve taken a 80Amp Electrical Shock!! This Gas Pipe was the only way this house had a Neutral & had no Earth protection. None of the RCDs or RCBs will trip if there’s a faulty Neutral coming into the property on a PME TN-C-S Systems. Now I know a lot of you young pups think Safe Isolation is a waste of time. But be safe, remember, you don’t know what some fucking idiot has done in a property prior to your visit!! Be safe & go home to your family at the end of your shift?
Toolbag for plumbing, toolbag for gas, toolbag for oil, toolbag for AC , toolbag for gas. Gonna need another toolbag 😂, have got it all anyway 🤜. Nice video derek👌👌
Derek thanks for another cheer me up and throw our tools away 😂 video 👌 Can see Monday first job a belter. Stuck in traffic ULEZ2 Can't park Miserable customer Carry out safety checks Boiler dead. Order parts. Can't wait until Tuesday 🙄😂👌
Thank you for such a prompt reply, Like you I've been doing this for a long time and love your way of passing information. Back to the live casing though.... If the case was live why didn't it go to earth and trip / blow the fuse ? Cheers Derek
Hi Derrek always enjoy your videos. You explained the none contact volt stick needs to test as low as 50volts but you tested on a 240 volt outlet, that suggests it only has been proved for 240volts not 50volts or is the test acceptable for full range of voltages.
Testing it at 230 volts is good enough to prove it’s working. The proving unit also only test the 2 pole tester at 230 volts even though it can show 12 volts.
Hello Derek, So a screw through the bracket to the live conductor and the fuse /RCD trip didn't go? Does this mean that the boiler had been incorrectly wired, with no earth? and thereby all the heating and gas pipes were also live? Someone could have been Killed!
Derek I have a question , I have an old boiler 25kwh which will have to be swapped out, British Gas came around and said as part of building l all the radiators must be fitted with trv, and pipe work gas to be altered into zones than s plan and only quoted for a boiler 3 kwh more than the heat loss now my brain is telling me that won’t be big enough if we are losing 20kwh in heat on the property as the cylinder would need more than 3kwh to heat it indirectly or am I getting my math wrong but also queried why if they have to change the heating feed to the cylinder to from 22mm to 28mm he quotes just new regs is that right ? My understanding is hot water is hot water and have no interest to go to a heat pump again especially with s building with 20kwh heat loss
@@milkyporridge5929 i am trying to query what a supposed professional told me, which i think is wrong hence ask the pro man who has covered changes in part l but i didn't fully understand so was hoping for a quick answer if this was mandatory or could I keep with 22 and 15mm pipes as a 28mm would mean a major refit which i am not prepared to pay for, especially when others with online quotes are quoting over half less which is why I am confused the price disproportion heck its far cheaper to convert the place to a combi than what I have been quoted twice, but british gas were the only ones to do a heat calculation and seem to be quoting things I don;'t know if they are true or not for upgrades
As nice as the bulletin is, from dual qualified position it's a bit of a joke. For instance the death sticks should never be used to prove dead but are used to identify if something is live and honestly should never be trusted. Voltage testers are always a sensible idea (multi-meters don't comply with GS38 though they're more useful for a service and breakdown engineer). It's been a long time coming but it also shows installs should have a double pole or triple pole fan isolator with fuse, not just be supplied via a switch fuse that doesn't isolate the neutral. Personally I find the biggest safety issue these days to be that lack of isolation especially on properties where supplies are now TNC-S (PME) as if the neutral rots in the road the CPC's/ earth of the installation becomes a line conductor, which a death stick will pick up after isolation in a property with a solid floor but not always with suspended floors.
Absolutely not! You will drown in red tape and regulations until you’re no longer able to function as a business and then this smug bell end will wag his finger and say “well you should be able to do it” as he wraps up a 50min video on electrical isolation ….
@@stevenpatrick9213 Well you either work safely or you don't. It's your funeral. These checks have been around years. Have we all been as disciplined as we should be over doing them? probably not, but it never does harm to be reminded how to work safely and get yourself back on track doing what you know you should be doing. You should thank Derrick, not diss him.
The only trade to have to be regulated to do all other trades as well...what next from gas safe? Common sense when working with gas or electricity should come to the forefront. Analysers were a one off qualification, which was straight away added to our 5 year acs course! How many times has the way we use our FGA changed? 18:43 Do builders have to go back to be told how to lay bricks every 5 years and joiners how to cut timber safely? Maybe gas safe should be ensuring our National gas transporter adheres to basic gas safety regulations and not allowing them to be EXEMPT( as confirmed to me directly from gas safe register)is that not also deemed a danger?? Yes they can re-pipe one of my installations due to a new main and relocation of the gas meter and very poorly as well and carry out no gas checks or commissioning of the appliances allowing the clown to re-connect to redundant pipework as well creating an 8mbar drop before he left, disced the meter and started next doors gas work!!!! The gas industry is smoke screens and mirrors hence why so many engineers fail to renew every year, as with this country we know how to push good people away normally due to continuous greed. Some of the so called Rogue engineers are probably some very good well educated engineers doing nothing wrong but opting not to keep paying for their plastic card and be a puppet to this industry, I wonder why we have a shortage of trades?? Rant over.
I disagree with testing an earth path with a beeping function. A beep says there is an earth but it doesn’t tell you how good that earth is. To my mind you can only check that by measuring the ohms resistance with a multi meter. A high resistance could be a poor earth connection but would still give a beep if that was the only way you tested. Gas Safe should maybe not treat us all like idiots!
“Hi Mrs jones I’m here to service your boiler” “Ok brilliant, how long do you think you’ll take?” “ oh no longer than 4/5 hours Mrs jones and to make it economically viable I’ll have to charge £360” (Door slams in face)
Please tell me how being safe ie carrying out the safe to touch test before you start going to make a service take 4/5 hours and why are you not already doing the test as this has been around for nearly 10 years
Don’t be a passive aggressive bitch, you know full well if you do absolutely everything (risk assessments ect and the like) all the safety stuff/paperwork and a full proper service it’s going to take hours and don’t pretend it won’t. Even if it takes 2 hours that’s £200+ seals ect in London and NO ONE is paying that. You can be a snarky twat all you like but I live in the real world where we have to actually make a living and are beholden to the forces of the market. Ps if you compiled the time you take to even explain all these things in your videos it would be more like 500 hours.
