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Gaslighting by Proxy (flying monkeys, triangulation, drama triangle) 

Prof. Sam Vaknin
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Gaslighting can be verbal or behavioral. The gaslighter often recruits third parties to do his/her bidding: flying monkeys, partners in triangulation, and a rescuer/savior in Karpman's drama triangle.
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@dedricklane4899
@dedricklane4899 3 месяца назад
Professor I just had to tell my favorite Aunt to never call or text me again because this was the last time she was going to tell me my crazy mom and sister “ didn’t mean what they said”.. they told me my fathers death from a 4 year fight with cancer was actually my fault…
@melt2947
@melt2947 3 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@kingagrad3436
@kingagrad3436 3 месяца назад
*hugs* from Poland. Don't let it get into you. You don't have to believe them. I believe in you
@dedricklane4899
@dedricklane4899 3 месяца назад
@@kingagrad3436 thank you so much that actually means a lot
@rightthewrong6050
@rightthewrong6050 3 месяца назад
Omg! No! That was not your fault. Wow! Don’t worry… They’ll have to answer for that one of these days. Thou shalt not bear false witness! I’m sorry You had to go through that. If they didn’t mean it… They shouldn’t have said it. ♥️♥️♥️
@Aisha_babii
@Aisha_babii 3 месяца назад
My mother triangulates me and my two siblings and when she’s upset with siblings A, she’ll send her flying monkeys (sibling B and C) to do her dirty work to manipulate, guilt and gaslight
@TT-kd2si
@TT-kd2si 3 месяца назад
This is brilliant having lived through this you have no idea how incredible it feels to have sense put on the nonsense I’ve lived through Thankyou Sam ❤
@annagreif639
@annagreif639 3 месяца назад
Дорогой Профессор! Вы просто великолепны. Очень полезная информация
@mikesmith6594
@mikesmith6594 3 месяца назад
Getting gaslit , constantly mislead , constantly lied too , walked allover , treated like a pushover and doormat , is all the reason why I am severely depressed , isolated , have social anxiety , difficulties interacting , or trusting people , feel suicidal because all of this betrayal in my life 😢.My father claims he cares but he really just wants control over my life , my sister literally hates my guts , I'm constantly walking on eggshells around these kinda people , feel worthless and invisible . It's like a never ending hell ! Gaslighting has done nothing but hurt me .
@TT-kd2si
@TT-kd2si 3 месяца назад
I can relate Mike but I need you to know that there is a bigger picture to this you see the fact that your able to see it all now from a new perspective shows me that you’ve lived through this so you could be set free from it all and start again if this wasn’t true then you’d still be stuck where you were You’ve been shaped by this not destroyed ❤
@zazu3006
@zazu3006 3 месяца назад
it’s not about you!! that’s the sick trick, they horrifying reality. Manipulating and hurting others for their own moment of success, relief and ego boost. and if it takes hurting you? they do not give it any thoughts, in fact, it’s only about knowing what will hurt you, so it’s easy to get. parents raised me to think that gaslighting, dismissive, hurtful behaviour is normal.. only 2 months ago i finally understood and it was a true Eureka moment! ⭐️ years, months trying to think how can someone be this nasty, a mother on top. i was being understanding, working out that maybe something caused this or that. no. no excuses, no more broken heart for me from my parents, they are empty shells filled with black goo and never gave a fuck if i’m hurt, so… that’s the secret it’s not about me. i got hurt because they could. badam tsss what they say or do has nothing to do with you value, enjoy the rest of your life and don’t be hurt by your fam. just show them how much it doesn’t bother you how they think. they will be angry/ impressed/ confused/ try harder/ appreciate you. power is all they understand
@JackMao2
@JackMao2 3 месяца назад
Professor could you make more videos about emotional covert incest please?
@wintergoddess8210
@wintergoddess8210 3 месяца назад
Thank you 😊
@angiespiva5304
@angiespiva5304 3 месяца назад
Sam, in my example I had a new boyfriend that his ex texted him after a few months of them being broke up and the next thing I know our whole relationship for the next eight months he was talking to her and keeping her secret. He told me that she didn’t mean anything, and that I was too jealous and that some things were not my business and that I was too jealous, and not going to control who his friends were and after we argued, he told me to get the hell out, so yeah I see this.. Secrets annihilate a relationship .
@christinerobertson9596
@christinerobertson9596 3 месяца назад
same exact thing happened to my daughter. Luckily they broke up.
@ddnick
@ddnick 3 месяца назад
Oh the typical " U r jealous, insecure, possesive, controlling " gaslighting 🤔 No suprise!
@Mountlougallops
@Mountlougallops 3 месяца назад
I need this today. Thanks Sam.
@chrishintz1077
@chrishintz1077 3 месяца назад
Perhaps epitomized by the infamous expression “alternate facts”.
@ec1222
@ec1222 3 месяца назад
Thanks prof this clears up a bit I’ve been wondering about that.
@user-vg8qy5jz6d
@user-vg8qy5jz6d 3 месяца назад
Sam could you make more videos about bipolar
@enricomiceli8704
@enricomiceli8704 3 месяца назад
Just be Kanye or take your meds, nothing in between
@Iridescence7770
@Iridescence7770 3 месяца назад
This type of behavior is common in corporate.
@Damesplace
@Damesplace 3 месяца назад
In the Prison system as well
@swissarmyknight4306
@swissarmyknight4306 3 месяца назад
Common in government agencies as well.
@staliapoulard1539
@staliapoulard1539 3 месяца назад
At what age would a failed narcissist become a borderline ?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 3 месяца назад
9-12 years old.
@staliapoulard1539
@staliapoulard1539 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@suzystone244
@suzystone244 3 месяца назад
Whenever I hear of Flying Monkeys. I think of OZ. The wonderful land of bad relationships.
@enricomiceli8704
@enricomiceli8704 3 месяца назад
I could just send this to all the ladies I know
@heredith
@heredith 3 месяца назад
my brother a long time gaslig hted me by behaving so neutral. in real he cared to minimize my heritage, helped my ex to hide money and helped to turn my oldest daughter against me. he was a very busy flying monkey.
@ec1222
@ec1222 3 месяца назад
What a betrayal. 😢
@heredith
@heredith 3 месяца назад
@@ec1222 thank you for answering! yes, and he had a style, that made me trust him. be careful!
@damiandamian3417
@damiandamian3417 3 месяца назад
Do emotions affect energy levels throughout the day and productivity? How does this apply to people with personality disorders? Negative emotions take time? Do you feel more sleepy because of them? How does it manifest?
@zazu3006
@zazu3006 3 месяца назад
yes. from every angle. brain occupied by negative doesn’t have capacity to function in a productive way, self regulate and create happy motivation. also from vibrational point- love vibrates in different frequency
@Josh-zn7bx
@Josh-zn7bx 3 месяца назад
So if i employ a lot of empathy yet i still have zero identity and not much self love im more likely bpd and not npd?
@user-my4rp6nt8p
@user-my4rp6nt8p 3 месяца назад
I wish i could tell my story to professor sam. I'm fully confused with my emotions and what has happened to me.I watched previous videos try to figure out he was a narcissist, lot of them matched yet i doubt because whole my relationship i just try ti justify him even though he treated me badly.
@tonyc7689
@tonyc7689 3 месяца назад
If you're being treated badly in any way : emotional, physical or spiritual then your needs aren't being met .
@user-my4rp6nt8p
@user-my4rp6nt8p 3 месяца назад
@@tonyc7689 appreciate your comment. 😊
@zazu3006
@zazu3006 3 месяца назад
@@user-my4rp6nt8pand i’ve just!! recently realised that i wanted to be loving and understanding etc, no. excusing nasty behaviour is like making yourself available for more.. i was devastated last year, but it’s nothing but power play to a narcissist
@artmkrtch122
@artmkrtch122 3 месяца назад
‘Have fun’ LOL
@sheerkatdotcom
@sheerkatdotcom 3 месяца назад
Is there an age where its too late to prevent the npd taking over , for example is the teen-age past the age to have a turn around with the right support and environment
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 3 месяца назад
12-14 years old. Same applies to BPD.
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