Geforce 4090 Benchmarked VS the 3080

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Equipped with a NVIDIA RTX 4090 Founders Edition and a Geforce RTX 3080 FE, I compare the two, investigating how much of a performance uplift the flagship of the 4000 series can provide, at what kind of settings and resolutions, how much power it consumes to achieve it, as well as touching on DLSS 3. And yes, raytracing and high resolutions like 4K and 8K as well.
CPU used - Intel 13900k
RAM - 2x32 GB DDR5 5600 Mhz
0:00 - 3080 VS 4090???
1:10 - 8K?????
1:46 - DLSS 3
3:30 - Power consumption
4:34 - Death Stranding
5:32 - Crysis 3
5:57 - Metro Exodus EE
6:18 - Assassins Creed Odyssey
7:01 - Shadow of War...?
7:34 - Deus Ex MD
7:55 - Red Dead Redemption 2
8:02 - Control
8:12 - Flight Simulator 2022 - DLSS 3
8:50 - Cyberpunk 2077 - DLSS 3
10:01 - DLSS's new 'use'
10:26 - Conclusion

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25 июн 2024

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@mrnobody9268 Год назад

With the size of these things its starting to feel like installing a PC into your PC.

@hi_its_jerry Год назад

huh, ive seen that comment before

@IPooopdogl Год назад

Luke from Linus Tech Tips said the same thing

@rkan2 Год назад

By power consumption you are actuaööy installing this PC into your pc :P

@no1DdC Год назад

I actually have three different fully featured x86 PCs that are smaller than it.

@rkan2 Год назад

@@no1DdC I could fit all my 4 Compute sticks inside this and then some 200 more :D

@uicpok1 Год назад

Jesus, i didn’t realize how ridiculously big this card actually is. It’s a literal brick!

@rkan2 Год назад

I think it is bigger than a brick, but not bigger than a concrete block..

@abirneji Год назад

@@rkan2 I think they're saving that for the 5000 series

@kingding9542 Год назад

You would think they'd end up getting SMALLER over time like telephones

@terraincognitagaming Год назад

@@kingding9542 Thats not how it works. Also its the same size as the 3090 FE.

@slothc Год назад

bricks are definitely smaller

@JohnSmith-tf3lm Год назад

As someone who stopped following GPU market after GTX 780 ti and R9 290x those numbers are...impressive.

@nixon8990 Год назад

Bro right im over here with my gtx980 feeling like a fallen king

@asdasdasd9320 Год назад

@@nixon8990 "I used to rule the world"

@sephrosemary Год назад

@@nixon8990 bruh you're still outperforming my, wierdly, no-longer-dying rx480 xD

@Kiporino Год назад

@@LucasFerreira-gx9yh 780ti < 1060 3gb

@RuskiVodkaaaa Год назад

the only thing that worries me is what comes next after the RTX 4000 cards, how tf are people going to fit RTX 5000 cards into their case? These cards already barely fit most cases, and I haven't even mentioned their power outpit. The laws of the universe mean these big coolers aren't going away anytime soon lol. You're gonna need a 1500W PSU to run a RTX 5090 lol and I feel aircooled GPU's will die by this point since water cooled cards are much smaller in size and more efficient at cooling.

@alexalex5121 Год назад

you said that whoever is watching has probably already seen Linus' and GamersNexus' reviews on this thing, but you're actually the first one I go to for these haha

@plebisMaximus Год назад

Yea, I'm with you lol.

@Funkoh Год назад

Actually, I think most of us are haha

@kjellbeats Год назад

@LYoda Год назад

Kind of crazy how I looked at the 3000 series as insanely overkill already, then here comes the 4090 that doubles the framerate...

@nickchavez720 Год назад

Honeslty I may just stick with the 3000 series. It's already such over kill, I dont really do too much 4 k gaming, and frankly I'm not ready to pay the price.

@FiremansGaming Год назад

Triple the price triple the size

@drachna Год назад

I suppose that it depends on usecase. They're all massively overpowered for 1080p gaming, and probably op for 1440p gaming. For 4k though, the 3000 series was more like good enough ig. Still, I think that the high frame rate 4k monitor section of the market is in the absolute minority of gamers.

@LYoda Год назад

@@drachna Yeah I dream of 4k gaming.. still only have a gtx1650 in my laptop, enough for 140fps on csgo lowest settings haha

@magnus6683 Год назад

@@drachna 1440p gaming on the 3090 is perfect. I agree that it doesn't always do well enough in 4k, for me at least. 4090 will make 4k gaming insane, being able to hit monitor refresh rates and such.

@FenraiTheFurry Год назад

Having not seen any other 4090 videos and having a 3080 myself, this was really informative! You knocked it out of the park again!

@tracedd Год назад

I've been waiting years for 4k 144fps. I always knew it would come but weird it's really here now. As regular retail consumer this is a technical milestone.

@user-wq9mw2xz3j Год назад

meanwhile I see no difference to 1440p (unless huge screen really close) or to 70-90fps on most games. Only really if the game lacks any decent anti aliasing, and if it's a fast paced game it benefits from higher fps as well. Heck 40-60fps is enough for most other games for me (non shooters and racers)

@cmoneytheman Год назад

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j 4k is there but not big get a 5k

@MechAdv Год назад

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j The difference in FPS games to me is huge. Playing in 1440p on a 32” vs 4k on 55”, the 1440p looks blurry with terrible AA, which makes it hard to hit distant targets. People downplay the 4k upgrade way too much. I regularly switch back and forth between my LG OLED in the living room and my LG 32GP-850 in the office, and it’s not even close.

@christopherstein2024 Год назад

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j it's for the aliens. They have much better eyes and reflexes than humans and once they invade earth they will only spare the gamers with the most overpowered set ups.

@zombieguy Год назад

@@MechAdv The PPI difference makes no sense with that setup and you are comparing different screen tech, OLED looks better most of the time and it will always also tend to look sharper due to each pixel essentially have it's own brightness.

@blue4077 Год назад

Truly a graphics of all time

@evilSevenYT Год назад

Hi Philip, could you try the card in VR? Frametimes in Half Life Alyx, Boneworks or BoneLab would be very interesting - especially with a higher resolution scale of eg 150 or 200 %

@twistedpeanuts6958 Год назад

Please do that

@TheEnfo Год назад

Yes, please! I can't find any reviews on vr performance.

@Isaax Год назад

Yes please this! Listen to this man Philip

@Cptraktorn Год назад

I'd really want to see MSFS2020 VR with the 4090. is DLSS3 even supported in VR?

@BallstinkBaron Год назад

We need vr benchmarks vs the 3080

@firsttyrell6484 Год назад

Because it was designed initially to handle 600W power limit, the card is really cool/quiet with 450W limit.

@damara2268 Год назад

How do you know it was "designed for 600W" ? It was just designed to handle 450W while not becoming loud. It's a super expensive flagship product after all, those should not have problems like getting loud or overheating.

@maegnificant Год назад

The card is extremely cool. It's even better if you run it at 70% power target and overclock it. Runs as fast as with 450W, but only needs 300W at max. What a card.

@SmileytheSmile Год назад

Phillip, I am severely disappointed in you. I believed you were above being pressured by the public to make changes to your art, I guess I thought too highly of you. Your removal of the word "chonker" from this video's title will never be forgotten for the next 10 minutes.

@MrPotatoes97 Год назад

I just got a 3080 and I will be rocking it for 5+ years just like I did the 1080 I have had since 2017. I'll wait for the 6080 series lmao

@MechAdv Год назад

The 50 series will probably be the value winner. It seems like every other generation is a dud on price/perf. Even with how ridiculously powerful the 4090 is relative to the 3090, it still loses to the 3080 on price/perf. The 4080s will lose badly to the 30 series on perf/$, and a lot of gamers will skip Lovelace like they did Turing. Then Hopper will come out and be a monumental shift in perf/$ and everyone will be in love with Jensen again.

@beanos2287 Год назад

I just got one myself for $400, how much did you pay for yours?

@WyvernDotRed Год назад

"You've already seen the [other videos]" No, yours are the first I watch as you put in way more care in getting as much interesting results. And for the homour ofc. -From a Steam Deck that boots with "Achieved with Sorce"

@schtendo4464 Год назад

The amount of trust this man has in his cat around those GPUs is incredible

@Epd3mik Год назад

I mean. What harm can a cat do to a GPU that lies on the table? (exept pushing it down, pee and puke on it) ^^

@styleee1337 Год назад

@@Epd3mik get cat hair inside which will then burn while you're playing

@mrauksia Год назад

@@Epd3mik Static-frying.

@luukherfst1209 Год назад

@@styleee1337 And what harm can cat hair that's burning do to your gpu? Nothing to worry about bro.

@gdx1037 Год назад

It's crazy to see what I would still consider modern games running in 8k and not caring. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just mean to say that I believe my 3080 will serve me for many, many years to come, so it's extra exciting to think that my next card may be a 5090 when the 4090 is already this strong.

@yannisgk Год назад

2090, 4090, 6090, 8090, 10090(???)...that's the "game"!!! ;)

@albertsun3393 Год назад

I think a large issue with increasingly powerful graphics cards is that games are taking those high-end specs for granted - alot of games nowadays kinda throw optimization and performance out the window and say "just get a better graphics card". Doom Eternal is a great example of a game which used fancy rendering techniques to get great performance and quality instead of leaving everything for the graphics card to chug.

@Evan2 Год назад

Man put the most important information at the very start of the video. Major props for that, subscribed.

@plebisMaximus Год назад

So this is the generation 8k gaming becomes a thing. I'm perfectly happy with 1080p still, but that just means now we've reached the point where I don't have to buy anything but the cheapest cards to get high performance. What an exciting time to be a cheap-ass.

@luukherfst1209 Год назад

Yes. 4090 is the first native 8k gpu (atleast on most games, there are still quite some games that even a 4090 can't handle at 8k) this means that other cheap gpu's will give excellent performance for the first time ever. Budget gpu's are now really at a point where you get insane performance for really, really cheap.

@JaredAF Год назад

Only hardware reviews I'll watch. Thanks philip

@WSS_the_OG 8 месяцев назад

What an excellent review and comparison. Great job!

@mattheModest Год назад

This was JUST the comparison I was looking for :D

@Xarrant Год назад

Watching your vid before the other reviews! Nice cat btw

@Stormalonger Год назад

I actually haven't seen the content creators you've mentioned's videos. I trust your word and your content is what I'm interested in

@TheTodfather Год назад

Nice vid Phil, glad to see a good sponsorship like this :)

@FisherTPS Год назад

I seen your video before linus, thanks for content !

@Cptraktorn Год назад

Thank you man, I'm currently using a 3080 but upgrading to a 4090 for productivity and vr gaming purposes and i really wanted to see these two compared.

@ranakirti Год назад

excellent review. Well done

@briando8150 Год назад

I actually saw all the videos from Linus and GamersNexus laid out in my subscriptions, but I was actually most ecstatic to see that you did two videos. Despite your lack in resources, you make up for it with your entertainment value and british accent.

@therexman1234 Год назад

Hearing the sound kit you made in CS in this video was surreal. I thought I left my game on or something

@therexman1234 Год назад

I GOT A LIKE FROM THE MR. PHILIP?! I’m a big fan of your work sir and your Odgrub videos are so masterful that I show all of my friends it! The behind the scenes videos were a nice touch too. I really enjoy the content you produce!

@ashalight1824 Год назад

Would be nice to have VR tests also

@teatowl Год назад

Your b-roll shots should become industry standard! Top tier.

@badazga4507 Год назад

Awesome video philip, as allways! I was wonderung what cpu and ram you are running in these benchmarks since its sometimes bottlenecked by the cpu even at 4k. Bought the card today with a i712700k + 32gb ddr4 3000mhz ram.

@cr1ticalRevenge Год назад

Will you test the 4090 on that unreal engine 5 matrix demo? I'd like to see how well it runs on that.

@RealBercik Год назад

Ah the perfect review I wanted to see!

@adrianstealth340 Год назад

Ideal vid for me as I have a 3080 Considering upgrading big thanks

@akuma7616 Год назад

I didn't even know about the card, so you're the first video i watch)))

@Videocrazymachine Год назад

As someone who uses an LG C1 48inch as their main monitor (4k120hz), getting a 4090 seems like a dream. Looks like that much performance would feel like running 1080p on an RTX 2080 did just a couple years ago, where you max every game no questions asked. It's been kinda interesting/slightly fun actually having to tweak settings to get games to run how I want them to on a 4k 120hz screen with my 2080, but I sure would prefer to go back to having a GPU that feels mildly overkill for my current screen.

@J0elPeters Год назад

Now THIS is the type of video we wanted on the 4090.

@iamastrangeloop96 Год назад

Hey Philip do you happen to have an available playlist or the names of the songs that are often in the backgrounds of your videos? Thanks!! I know you make music but I couldn't find your youtube staples on your soundcloud. gr8 content as always :)

@SHUTENSEPC Год назад

Actually, your video is the first that im watching, cause you just got more vibes

@gamblerofrats Год назад

I'd love to see some VR benchmarks using the 4090

@GamingXPOfficial Год назад

All im thinking about litteraly perfect for vr without having to use weird asw or space warp and being able to play vr mods like resident evil village vr at higher settings

@user-wq9mw2xz3j Год назад

right only reason I'd want anything better than 3070. and considering 4090vs4080 perforance, it cant handle vr good enough for me either. Maybe a rtx 7090 or 8080, with great upscaling and better vr headset than now avaliable

@bigturkey1 Год назад

vr games are all super easy to run. most games were made either in 2017 or now for the quest

@Robstrap Год назад

@@bigturkey1*half life alyx has entered the chat*

@bigturkey1 Год назад

@@Robstrap i beat half life alyx with a 1080ti and vive pro

@WayStedYou Год назад

0:13 actually I came straight here because I was surprised to see you got sent one and thougth it would be an interesting take.

@natehammondtrio Год назад

Well, thats my jump if/when I make it. So thanks for the video!!!

@SrgPuffy Год назад

Time for even more terribly-optimised games

@cmoneytheman Год назад

Yea they do that on purpose so people think their card is being pushed

@eduardosantiago6948 Год назад

Everyone talks about how great Cyberpunk is and how the graphics are incledible, but damn, I can't see it. Graphics ore okay, nothing to brag about, and optimization is terrible.

@zombieguy Год назад

@@eduardosantiago6948 This. It can look really good at times but mostly it's pretty basic. For how functionally basic the game is it blows my mind it runs as bad as it does.

@tendatonda1634 Год назад

@@zombieguy elden ring funnily has technically more outdated graphics but looks 10 times better.

@Definitely_Melnyx Год назад

Ironically this is actually my second video about the card after watching my first just before and YT algorithm was kind enough to recommend this channel :v

@originolbunnyman Год назад

Been looking forward to your look on the 4000 series. Your videos in this area always seem so technical and trustworthy, as opposed to other channels who sometimes just seem to go off of vibes! Looking forward to the 4060 / 4070, which are more in my price range, so i can finally get rid of the old 1050 that i'm currently using

@vator_rs Год назад

seeing how expensive 4080s are, I fear 4060 will be close to $500, far from what 60 series used to be.

@ziwuri Год назад

@@vator_rs that sounds like pennies for what it will probably offer

@originolbunnyman Год назад

@@vator_rs I hope not :/ graphics cards have been so expensive recently, and its killing my hopes of getting a high-performance card. Maybe AMD will put up some good competition and it will force more of a price-war 🙏🙏🙏

@narcolepticmarshmallow9012 Год назад

@@originolbunnyman If you can't get one for a good price, do look at the 3060 especially after these come out the prices drop (hopefully) even more than they already have. Unless you want to play 4k native in everything it will handle basically any game I can imagine for the next several years

@originolbunnyman Год назад

@@narcolepticmarshmallow9012 Thank you for the advice :) I play at 2k, and aim for my Graphics cards to last me about 6/7 years so I want to make sure its future proof :P

@yovitafritanabila8986 Год назад

Still working as of today, ty!

@skylx0812 Год назад

Its nice to see the cat has forgiven you for going at it looking like a Floridian bath salt addict in the last video.

@willhendrix86 Год назад

Funny, Yours was the FIRST video I watched.

@joshuamusic8812 Год назад

I'm on a 3080 looking to upgrade for vr stuff. Thanks for the 4090 vid

@farewellxanadu1020 Год назад

Actually, Philip, yours was the first video about the 4000 series I've watched.

@mr.waffles2555 Год назад

What CPU and board were you using? I’m curious to see if PCIE 3.0 is going to limit it.

@lynackhilou4865 Год назад

0:20 dunno if it's just me but actually your video is the first review I am watching on the 4090

@johng479 Год назад

Just got the 4090 and I feel like Thanos after getting the soul stone. It’s suspiciously perfect at everything, even noise and temps 😭

@TheRocketyaourt Год назад

how did you staged the cat at 0:40 ?! looks great !

@olazaikahoras8411 Год назад

Laughed so much at the "you've seen the LTT video" Great job Philip. Really cute cat as well!

@KeWDu Год назад

Damn. I just upgraded from a 1070 to a 3070ti and now I feel like my PC is already outdated again. These benchmarks are insane.

@Rickdegraaf Год назад

Buddy you are good for years upon years to come. 3070ti is an awesome card and 40 series will not be worth it looking at the price.

@KeWDu Год назад

@@Rickdegraaf you’re definitely right

@okeeguguru Год назад

I just upgraded to a 3080 from a 1070 as well. It definitely makes you want to return it and get a 4090 right away, but my god is it such a huge upgrade from a 1070 already. If anything, I'll just sell the 3080 later and try to get a 4090 once they're cheaper, or wait until the 5000 series considering the 3080 already kills any games, rendering, AI, and such.

@KeWDu Год назад

@@okeeguguru I'm not gonna lie im not totally satisfied with the performance of the 3070ti, and im about to get a raise at work so i honestly might just sell the 3070ti and save up for the 4090 just because fuck it. I have very little financial obligations right now. lol literally just finished my current PC build a few weeks ago and now i want to upgrade it all again. fuck me

@gmt1 Год назад

The Graphics Brick video almost seamlessly transitions into this one. Took me a second to realise it switched over in the playlist.

@MrSnaztastic Год назад

As someone a few years behind, this has honestly done a great job of advertising the 3080 to me.

@EverythingPS5Pro Год назад

Cool to see you bought one friend ❤️💪

@ThePongles Год назад

This is actually only the second video on the Geforce 4090 I've watched, with the first being your size video.

@Sventra Год назад

Hey Phil, don't worry about us having seen the LTT review before yours because I still very much appreciated your point of view and the games you tested, unfortunately LTT test games were a weird choice AGAIN, like Far Cry 6.... Has anyone even bought far cry 6? Meanwhile you showed us something cool like Crysis, something useful like Shadow of War (which is free on prime i think?), Control, and Flight Sim, really thankful for your review (not that I will ever be able to afford the 4090, but it's cool to see how it performs). Thanks again!

@mynameisconnorimtheandroid6080 Год назад

I actually watch this video first because I see you being far more entertaining to watch and I'll get to the other channels if I want more details

@Rctive Год назад

What do you think about Der8auer being able to cut the power limit by 30% and only losing 5% in Time Spy Extreme?

@TheToFu Год назад

What's the music played during the conclusion? 11:50

@oxmcginnes6253 Год назад

Damnit, i would have adored a 6 second review of the 4090 Benchmark.

@whiskeyandchoke Год назад

10 seconds ago?!?!! im in!!

@JohnAmanar 7 месяцев назад

I actually searched for a 3080/4090 comparison on RU-vid and got to this video this way :D

@Aaron-jj9no Год назад

Hey, strange question, but how did you get FE cards in the UK? I've tried to find one for MONTHS with no success, please share!

@VnTheMad Год назад

Ty for making this video. I'm upgrading from an Athlon 3000g and desperately need to know this.

@olic22 Год назад

The Antlion 3kg should hold you down another 3-4 years at least

@martinkozle Год назад

@@olic22 No?

@raffetoffe Год назад

Btw is the song at the beginning inspired from ”Go West”?

@_modnar_ Год назад

0:12 no, I did not already see other videos for the 4090. Your videos are the best and feel more ankered insthe real world. (Despite this cards price tag)

@mullabro1 Год назад

Same

@robinrai4973 Год назад

4K? 8K? Raytracing? I still remember your raytracing explanation video, we really are in the future

@renendell Год назад

Please do some VR testing. I *need* to know how this card performs in VR

@shmarvdogg69420 Год назад

Listening to this on headphones and my eyes cant stop going side to side with the background music 🙃

@liegon Год назад

I'd be very interested in your opinions on the Intel A770 (since it looks kinda affordable).

@TheLingo56 Год назад

General impressions seem to be it's a good value, but don't buy it because its drivers are too buggy to rely on as a daily graphics card. Maybe within 2 years Intel can get their drivers to be somewhat stable.

@Kamil_O Год назад

wow, that was quick

@civ20 Год назад

Are you doing A-B testing with the video titles?

@accountwontlastlong1 Год назад

You have something those fancy tech channels don't: Digadig playing in your videos.

@shardell Год назад

I really wish they’d release more affordable 40 series cards. Would be great to see this architecture in a card that isn’t above almost everyone’s price point

@JanM2 Год назад

Expensive cards always come first. Next ones we'll be seeing could be 4070 and 4060 ti which will be sitting more around 400-500€ MSRP

@djentrification1631 Год назад

They've been available for like a day dude lmao. Give em like 6 months and youll have your 4060.

@creedparker Год назад

@@djentrification1631 this is so true they hype up a $3k card then the next one comes out like a month later!

@HashBandit Год назад

@0:12 I actually haven't - you're bringing the god news

@eliashabash7591 Год назад

Excellent review!

@aremamarang Год назад

I am impressed by how much graphics have improved. I am happy with my 3070 and don't think I will upgrade any time soon, but it's still really interesting to see the new innovations. I'm honestly not sure where we will go from here.

@HeloisGevit Год назад

Full path traced AAA games of course. That's the end goal for graphics, it allows for movie grade photorealism.

@pygmalion8952 Год назад

@@HeloisGevit imagine playing a game with a render engine like cycles or arnold. god damn. that would be insane. these render engines are being used for cinematics for now but with 50xx cards, i will say we will see at least 20 30 frames per second and with 60xx, we will be playing fully ray traced titles. insane.

@HeloisGevit Год назад

@@pygmalion8952 Exciting times ahead for sure! Can't wait to play games that look as good as Disney Animations.

@omnicognatee Год назад

so at around 2:28 in the video, you're talking about the visual error artefacting, can you explain what artefacts you're actually talking about? it's really hard to spot in the video and i dont know if its just youtube compression or not

@mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад

The sound of your 3080 is a bit surprising. I don't get that loud fan noise when pushing the card. I do get a low grade coil whine though.

@MsFearco Год назад

3080 to 4090 is what interesting for me. thanks. your fps seems to max around 200 in any games. maybe it is cpu limit as u said. what fps do you get in titles where you're supposed to have 500-700? cs ow etc?

@geronimo5537 Год назад

How would you compare the monthly electric bill between these two cards? Not many are covering the new monthly costs of use with the massive wattage usage.

@jondonnelly4831 Год назад

If u can afford a 4090 u can afford the difference in the power bill.

@Saturn2888 Год назад

I did see GN's video, but not LTT's yet. Yours is shorter, so you're first :D. You'll also add something funny to the review, so it's more fun.

@livinglifeform7974 Год назад

I'm watching your video first, Philip. I didn't get to see the gamersnexus and LTT ones yet :(

@SirLamaOFkatania Год назад

just out of curiosity, do you get to keep the card, or do you have to send it back?

@tonymorris4335 Год назад

I'm on a CX48 OLED display that's 4k@120Hz with HDR etc. Going from 60FPS to 120FPS on RDR2 is a total game changer, literally. That game with a 120hz framerate is one of the most amazing things ever. So I was waiting for 2x performance for sure.

@randomgamingdotexe7446 Год назад

hello mr philips are you using Gsync for these games and could you do a video about gsync and freesync in 2022 thank you

@SticktheFigure Год назад

Only 2 minutes in but as an owner of a 3080 just curious and nothing else, this video was extremely made for me.

@j22563 Год назад

Would you mind sharing the other specs of the PC?

@RuskiVodkaaaa Год назад

it's crazy to me that 8k gaming is now acutally possible, it was already semi possible on the 3000 series cards (if you consider 20 fps playable) but with DLSS 3.0 soon to release you'll easily be able to pull 60 fps on most games. Now it's up to the monitor companies to release 8k gaming monitors lol.

@TheTyphoon365 Год назад

minimum frames to play a game are 120, really 144fps. We're quite a few gens off doing that at 8k. This cant even do that at 4k without big dips, and certainly wont be able to do it with games over the next 3-8 years. This is actually a 1440p card

@tendatonda1634 Год назад

8k monitors are virtually useless.