General Grievous: The Perfect Evil Introduction (2003 Clone Wars) 

people need to see the message in this video. you are expressing typical thoughts of creative people. at least you are making videos. i haven't even made on yet !

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Glad to see u unprivated and had the same first reaction to grievous

Nothing cringe here. Awesome video thank you for sharing.

I love this vid

Honestly, current cannon grievous is stronger than his 2008 portrayal while also being weaker than his 2003 self. They seemed to balance him between the two extremes in the canon books and comics.

@Carson Lawler Ok, so Grievous has had some new canonical books and comics added to the StarWars universe; in those new books and comics, Grievous is stronger than he was portrayed in the clone wars Tv show, but he's also weaker than he was shown in the 2003 clone wars animation.

@@thegreatgamers9812 how?

@@joker-0723 he's faster; he's fought Mace Windu to a standstill and started copying his lightsaber style, and he's also killed a good variety of Jedi. Honestly, he really just looks weak in the 2008 series because he keeps fighting against high-ranking Jedi wrapped in plot armor. So yeah, his canonical skills are better than what we see in the clone wars series, but also worse than the Jedi killer we've seen in the 2003 animated series.

@@thegreatgamers9812 To be fair, a big part of Grievous is psychological warfare. He's not as powerful as a Jedi Master at their best, but that Master is only as powerful as their connection with the Force. Exhaustion, fear, uncertainty, distraction, all of these factors work to weaken how effective the Jedi is in combat. And it has a cascade effect. The more you keep an enemy off balance, the more desperate and unfocused they become. Heck with Shaak Ti, the Togruta he fought again on Coruscant, she is still terrified of him even though she's probably in much better shape than the their first meeting. That fear and the fact she needs to protect the Chancellor keeps her on the defensive, running away from Grievous rather than fighting him if she has any choice. The scene where Grievous is training with Dooku gives some weight to this, as the Sith points out how the key to victory against the Jedi is to break their focus.

General grievous IS A BAYLADE

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Hes a Belgrade with proof ...lmao

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exactly! & the fact that darth sidious even acknowledges him & counts on him in that old version of the clone wars series shows how competent he was.

Same with Mace Windu! Him force punching droids and force crushing Grevious was bad ass. Wish we saw it in the prequels.

Yep! Another thing that the CGI show really dropped the ball on was making Dooku a villain to be reckoned with as well. But he just twiddles his mustache from behind the scenes and is...boring. Doesn't even look like Christopher Lee.

Dooku was so much cooler before Revenge Of The Sith. A elegant and intimidating figure who went toe to toe with Yoda, and stood shoulder to shoulder with Sidious as a equal. Then came Revenge Of The Sith and The Clone Wars 2008 series. Why George? Just why?

@@fictiontheorizer3594 Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. However, the animated show did let him shine a few times. His fast fight with Anakin and Obi Wan, the fight against Asajj Ventress and the two nightsisters, him using the force to make that guy kill the other with his gun, etc. I love the 2003 version but the Clone Wars version has some of my favorite Dooku moments.

Not to mention the ease of controlling him through his cybernetic enhancements.

@@brandonr3072 They can't do that though.

@@ForsakenDreamer7 you don't know much about the sith when it comes to star wars lore do you?

@@brandonr3072 And you don't know much about Grievous, do you? None of his cybernetic enhancements include any control devices. If that was the case, Dooku wouldn't have to worry about his loyalty or what would happen if they were to fight. Neither would Sidious have to warn Tyranus to be careful around Grievous or think that he'll have to kill him personally if Obi Wan dies on Utapau.

@@ForsakenDreamer7 ........ where does he receive spare parts when his originals get damaged? Who handles the operations to switch those parts out? Who funds his upgrades? Control means more than just a microchip in the back of the brain or a kill switch primed to be used at any given time..........

All because of mace windu

lol

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How did it give him a Russian accent it didn't sound remotely Russian.

You mean German accent?

WE CAN'T FACE HIM

@@cynthiagarza4494 We must try, Shaggy!

@@baz00katooth Jedi shaggy lol

@@cynthiagarza4494 his name is even Shagg’ Ai

@@zario4083 fr I didn't know I thought it was just funny that he looked like shaggy man the creator of the mini series is a GOD

As Grievous is not a force user it makes his abilities and his victories against force users all that much more impressive.

2D grievous, using acrobatics effectively and efficiently to fight multiple opponents in ways none can realy predict or even prepare for 3D grievous :lets try spinning, thats a good trick

@@eshinnightrunner6290 I mean, you hit the nail on the head by accident, in live action vs an animation, you're severely limited. People would've just laughed at the bad CGI or even if it was good the amount they'd need would be excessive just for one scene. It's both a blessing and a curse, as some people utilize it very well, so much so that sometimes they show us stuff we really need to put a cap on. Just because something can be shown doesn't mean it should be, but heck that's a different conversation. TLDR in animation yeah they're able to do all sorts of stuff that wouldn't translate well into the movies.

From what I recall during original talks from legends grievous being not op during his last fight with kenobi. When mace window crushed his internal organs it basically royally screwed with his system, add the fact that since the beginning of episode 3 he was on the run and dogged all the way to utapau. Makes for a more believable excuse on why he was the way he was from 2003 clone wars to live action. Also lets be honest, ain't no way they could have made him move in cgi like in the show XD though damn that would have been sick. Meanwhile new clone wars grievous is a joke.

He said it in this video and I’ve said it for years prior, grievous when shown in this series for the first time is a mix of a slasher in a horror movie and the shark in jaws. His theme music sounds like it too.

in the comics grievous did get some good representation and in labyrinth of evil (a novel) too, let me list a few achievements he had from the COMICS 1 - its mentioned he killed over 100 jedi throughout two years of the war 2 - its SHOWN that he killed jedi master Soon Bayt's 3 - it is SHOWN that he killed jedi master Adi Gallia (an underrated and OP master who has the power to slow down time) 4 - it is SHOWN that he defeated Darth Maul in combat and forced him to retreat 5 - it is SHOWN that he defeated Obi Wan Kenobi on a snow world while being UNARMED himself without sabre's 6 - its shown that he KILLED Mother Talzin after she contended with Sidious himself and for GOOD this time UNLIKE the pathetic 2008 series

@@pranavmishra7779 oh i get that he was an incredible tactician and combatant. I just don't like the fact that he lost the weight advantage.

@@alvarox951 theirs also a seperate comic adaptation of the 2003-2004 tv series one of those chapters includes a scene where grievous while relying on just 2 BLADES was able to defeat the combined team of DURGE & Ventress

@@pranavmishra7779 I know man, still tho you are missing the point. It's not about who Faced, or who won againts, rhe coment is about how this was the only adaptation of grievus where he was heavy weighted.

@@alvarox951 by adaptation do you mean the only WATCHABLE tv show thus not a comic/novel?

Don’t forget fordo

Nakkk Fordo is best Trooper, and you can’t compare him to any other captains or Troopers. And thanks to Fordo’s great leadership skills, and his own skills, the first mission we see him on is a complete success.

The scale of the battles were a whole order of magnetude we see in any star wars. You could see hundres of fighters coming out of a single aclamator frigate. You see massive troops fighting. It looks so right.

Honestly, Grevious was even better in season 3 when we got to know him better as a character and it's upon reflection/closer inspection that we see hints of the mustache twirling villain the Lucas had envisioned (settled upon) for this character. After all, his cape wouldn't have been tied to that transport had he not taken the time to gloat nor would Windu have crushed his lungs had he not tried to take one more trophy for his collection.

I still have a Durge Action Figure somewhere. The figure wasn't stylized like he was in 2003, but he was so cool because of 2003 Clone Wars.

Yes, I only saw him do it once in the whole the clone wars serie

Yeah I don’t really like that.

It showed him not moving as an organic but as a machine or cyborg, which he technically is now

He doesnt even use his 4 arms in the first fight and just uses 2 arms against 5 jedi

@@mr.spielefreak7075 his collection didn't have enough swords yet

“A queen chess piece against a collection of pawns” that’s a great analogy.

Grievous was not a droid, but a cyborg, because his organic internals were decimated, and then replaced piece-by-piece with cybernetic components.

IIRC in interviews he did mention how he learnt from western films.

Don’t forget how the silence in Samurai Jack really adds to surprise and suspense depending on the situation. Examples being the Minions of Set, Jack is wandering past an ancient Egyptian tomb when he finds the minions tomb opened, Jack has less than 5 seconds of shock before getting beaten half to death and the silence continues as he does everything he can just to survive.

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The best Grievous

THE ONLY THING THEY(JEDI) FEAR IS YOU(GRIEVOUS)

@@naitsab_33 you beated me to it buddy

Yes, and Lucas ego was too much to accept that Tartakovsky Made a better work than him with the character, so he deleted 2003 Grievous from existance

One way they could’ve fixed this was to somehow write it into the script that once Anakin turned to the dark side, he would go against Grievous as part of killing the separatist leaders on Mustafar. And he would win. That would mean Obi-Wan would have to lose to Grievous though, or at least let him escape. Let’s say Obi-Wan let’s Grievous escape. Anakin returns, not to Mace Windu preparing to visit the chancellor, but he’s just chillin, and Anakin tells him Palpatine is a Sith Lord. Then the rest plays out basically the same. And once Vader is done at the Jedi Temple he goes to Mustafar and he fights Grievous and wins. I would also keep Grievous killing Shaak Ti on the Invisible Hand, which would take his line “I have something else planned for you” make more sense by taking her with him rather than just tying her up in electrical circuits. I didn’t realize I was going to make a whole scenario, but I did. If anyone has any thoughts that would be epic.

@@LegoGamer5502 That would've been badass

Honestly, I would’ve wanted that Grievous so much more. He’s my favorite Villain, cause my dad showed me the good Grievous first with the 2003 series (I was born 2005 and we had the dvd’s). I remember seeing ROTS and crying because of how dirty they did my boy. I remember being terrified of him, but loving him all the same. Now he’s an asthmatic smoker in a spider mech. They ruined him. Thankfully, I don’t let the ‘memed’ Grievous get in the way of my love for this character, and with the help of my dad I’d making a 7’7 full body cosplay of General Grievous, and it should be finished, around my 17th birthday. (I’m 15 rn)

@@ThatOneFry2005 Ahhhh! That's such a wholesome story! You go my guy!

I think Grievous made Ki Adi his main target way before then. There's a reason he waited so long after crushing Sha'agi before jumping away. He wanted to know who's the new leader after he killed master Barrek. And confirmed it when Ki Adi covered the rest of the group and said: "Get back!".

​@ForsakenDreamer7 is his name actually sha'agi? 😂

@@kunknown2340 yes lol, yes it is

This show was so vital to all the stuff the new/fake Star Wars rips off lol

Yeah, this is easily my favorite TV show.

I loved this TV show and it was literally 5 minutes long😅😅 complete awesomeness as a kid

Thats how dave filoni intended greivous to be.

I like both versions of grievous anyways

@@jackalsmalls4995 George Lucas really.

@@Kryptomi Well Grievous and in general the entire CIS faction is generally treated as a joke and they always represent almost all of its members as space Nazis, but other than that it's fine.

@@jackalsmalls4995 Yeah well Filoni/Lucas were very, very wrong.

*Grievous

@@MrWhatdafuBOOM *yourmom

@@sadsworth4605 *teachesbettercomebacksthanyours

@@MrWhatdafuBOOM *doesntunderstandsarcasm

@@sadsworth4605 *becausetheydon'tknowthatsarcasmworksbetterspokenthanwritten

I think you’ll find it’s been two decades, not one.

Shaggy didn’t die, he was forced to use 2% of his power to escape.

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Notice how there's no body. The weather was getting too hot for shaggy so he jumped to another planet. Grievous immediately seized the opportunity to attack the remaining jedi.

@@user-rw3kw7wx7e that's my point, he killed shaggy so hard he got deleted from existence

@@Synthesyn342 where was it stolen from, hm?

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@@tiredandhungry8088 general kenobi you are a bold one

@@kurtflakes22 yes

It was pretty much just George Lucas retconning to fit the story he wanted to tell in ROTS.

The prequels are just one big meme, so it's no surprise.

The big one for me was 'Use the unconventional.' because Jedi train to fight defacto human enemies saber to saber.

Bars

*C H O N K*

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His jump is so bad

@@wizrdpnguin5778 his jump is actually great for surprise attacks

@@sicksadworld765 I guess if you think about it like that it's good but I mainly play hero showdown so yeah

"kills 4 jedi" *Laughs in K'kruhk*

Thats still more that 2008 grievous in 6 seasons

@@d.olivergutierrez8690 Of course not counting the 2 that he kills later on

Actually he critically injures 3 and only kills 3. K'kruhk was really hurt badly, everyone thought he was dead. K'kruhk even outlive Luke.

He even striked some clones tho

One padawan, knight and master each. Three Jedi escaped and K'kruk played dead.

Apart from the ones he allready killed, to get all those light sabers

That's actually technically true. His introduction was referenced in a Rogue One tie-in novel, and his exploits during the Battle of Coruscant were recently referenced by TCW Season 7, as well as a few reference books.

But... he is.

Well Legends and Disney's Canon are both two separate canons. So 2003 Grievous is canon, but to the Legends continuity.

I’m pretty sure that the battle of hypori is part of actual canon

Yes

Well, this explains a lot

And greatly weekend him

Actually, upon reflection and closer inspection I believe we do see traces of Lucas' mustache twirling villain in the micro series. After all, what other reason does he have to engage Windu than to add another trophy to his collection. I mean, he already has Palpatine and we do see that his ship is too fast for Windu to stop.

That's a great theroy and it makes sense

Russian??! What are you smoking

I think if they had just gone a little harder with Grievous in the movie, like having Obi-Wan get dangerously close to getting decapitated while he tried to cut off one of Grievous's hands (i.e. Grievous strikes Obi-Wan's robe), it would have gone a long way to making him less of a joke.

You should write star wars content

That's what happens in lots of Animes. The characters go through hell and pain to become stronger and stronger, their will struggles, but remains stronger as steel and finally they defeat their enemys. That's what's missing in modern movies and series.

@@theshadow7201 I can see why a lot of anime uses that process, if it's stupid but it works it's not stupid.

@@theshadow7201 Basically a dark souls game

In fact, all of the above is better suited for Shaak Ti - Grievous interacts with her most often. And if on Hypori he behaved with togruta , as with the rest of the jedi - mercilessly tried to kill, then on Coruscant he is with her... merciful. Even too much. General only talks to Shaak Ti, while Roron Corobb and Foul Moudama he silently tries to kill. Not only did he not kill her, he also left her on Coruscant. And the cyborg-kaleesh talks to togruta as if he is about to start flirting. In the superhero animated series of the 90s and 00s, one technique was used: *"The villain/villainess has a strong interest in the heroine/hero or conversely."* . It is possible that the same thing was planned in *"Clone Wars"* . Grievous' attitude to Shaak Ti has changed too dramatically, as if there was something else between the attack at Hypori and the attack on Coruscant. Considering that Qumaen cannot fly to Kalee and communicate with the remnants of his family and people, and how easily he kills jedi, he is sorely lacking in pleasure. He might have decided that one jedi needed to be defeated, but not killed, in order to fight again with pleasure. Shaak Ti is perfect for this - she has already faced Grievous and survived, she is one of the best masters of the Order, her students died, and she is a woman in the dawn of strength. And if we add here polygamy among the kaleesh, love experience and beauty before the loss of the body, it is quite expected that the attitude of Qumaen jai Sheelal to Shaak Ti will have an intimate character, even if only the head, heart and lungs remain of him. It would be similar to the attitude of Hannibal Lecter and Clarissa Starling in *"The Silence of the Lambs"* : Grievous will test Shaak Ti's fighting skills, tactical mind, patience and caution, while he will always be polite and honest with her, forcing togruta to behave the same way towards him; Grievous will be pleased when Shaak Ti can outwit and captivate him; Grievous can even show a little compassion for Shaak Ti because of the death of her padawans, who were like children to her, and only 4-5 out of 30 children survived at cyborg-kalish, and the death of a children is not an empty sound for him. If they had clashed after the events on Coruscant, their relationship could have passed into the category of "Neutral-Positive" - cyborg-kaleesh and jedi-togruta could calmly and confidently walk side by side and perform special missions together, but at the same time officially remain enemies. In the end, Qumaen can save Shaak Ti alone or with 2-3 random padawans from Order 66, then split up or stay together, finally becoming allies. And if Grievous decides to go further than exchanging pleasantries with Shaak Ti, they will become lovers or de facto spouses (they will have enough time to get closer in all respects).

And Shaggy used 50% of his power to shield himself from Grievous’ attack, but it didn’t work.

@@GalaxyDogenut Actually, Shaggy didnt die, he had to use his power of teleportation to get away. But the attempt on his life has left him scarred and deformed...

@@jeanmarc6517 then he killed Palpatine and used his power to transform into a clone of Palpatine. Later, he ruled the galaxy, with Darth Vader at his side.

Like...zoink... Scoob

@@GalaxyDogenut that’s cannon now

Im just gonna headcannon that the running away at the slightest hint of failure came as a new sense of caution after he got his lungs deleted and obtained a russian accent

The interesting guy with potential gets his great backstory retconned and gets absolutely butchered. While maul who had nothing going for him gets resurrected and reworked into a better character with constant appearances I think Filoni just hates grievous for no reason

@@pandinus1377 Nah it was because of George Lucas actually

@@Anzyn Lucas fucking butchered him in the movie but filoni usually takes the movie chars and tries to improve them or make them more interisting, like i just said with maul, or asajj or any of the clones or anakin. Instead for grievous he just kept him as is and maybe even worse

Iirc, one of the interviews about the retcons went something along the lines of "we already have vader as the biggest badass in the galaxy, we don't need another character trying to be that role"

I agree, and his ability to tell stories in silence is above almost anyone else I can think of. I wish the directors and writers of The Mandalorian would watch his stuff.

@@spaccorn the "don't tell: show" is so strong on him that his last series doesn't even have dialoges

@@johanninferus4845 Primal is cool as shit, the zombie episode was absolutely terrifying and sickening in an amazing way.

Second favorite clone moment in the elevator very calmly loads the rocket launcher

2008 cartoon is garbage

@@kryptoskillet1131 Not really normal. They had heavy weapons like Reciprocating Quad Blasters and Z-6 Rotary Blasters. All of their DC-15s also had sub-barrel grenade launchers which they actively used.

This is the sort of thing we should get, a live action horror star wars from the POV of his enemies, as he slices them all down, and it ends with him typing up a report going into detail and how it was from his perspective.

Kind of reminds me of the predator

@@PeanutTechno This. Please

Yus

Those are not commandos they are even better they are arc troopers under tha command of captain fordo who togheter with alpha 17 are probably the closest clones in terms of skill to that of jango fett if not even surperior... alpha 17 alone was more effective in battle than many jedi even.

@@antonhallergren588 ARC stands for Advance Recon Commando, so they are technically commandos, just not Republic Commandos.

@@antonhallergren588 arc being better than commandos is bs

@@FSM1138 no Astro600 is correct here. Arc troopers are very advanced commandos and more like jango than any other clones hence more effective at solving problems and finishing missions with vauge parameters But a goal. Republic commandos were covert ops more or less While arcs acted more like jedi generals in battle. They were only really bested by very skilled jedi as leaders other than that they were the best the republic had to offer.

@@FSM1138 I would say they are. ARC troopers were bred to be one man armies. TCW tv series kinda dulled it down but if you look at legends with Captain Fordo and Alpha-17 they were utter badasses. Clone Commandos were awesome as well don't get me wrong. But in Republic Commando we saw that they were not much more effective than a regular clone on a battlefield. They are more proficient at stealth, recon, sabotage and rescue operations. Plus they were meant to work in 4-man squads. Not diminishing how cool the commandos are but the ARC Troopers take the cake on tactics, large scale warfare and strategy.

And that the only thing, the only fucking thing, that made him reconsider going after Grevious was that there were survivors who would definately die if they did not leave then. We can not wait five minutes, we can not wait five seconds, we have to leave *now* or your friends *will* die here.

@@erin8050 And since Grevious already killed some members of that arc trooper unit, if the didn't leave they'll all die. And it doesn't help his army is closing in as well

Not very jedi like Mr mundi..

@@bootybreakeronlyformen Bet he'd say something like "Well, we Jedi aren't encouraged to neglect our feelings

He realized that if they didn’t do something that grievous could change the tide of the war forever. And not in their favor

I was thinking, "why is shaggy holding a lightsaber" so this makes sense i guess

I KNEW IT. I knew he looked like Shaggy on purpose. Oh my god, that's amazing.

Gosh damnit the original shaggy meme is literally in star wars

Damn, 03 Grievous really was op. He even killed Shaggy.

I knew he looked like shaggy

Yup he uses his entire body to his advantage which is terrifying in how he preforms against his foes when doing it.

And the scary thing is that the Tartakovsky microseries spent all it's time before Grievous appears just how powerful a single jedi is. One can take on an entire army of droids and even massive doomsday ships. But Grievous can easily take on an entire platoon of jedi and even successfully kill several of them and walk away to tell the tale.

The funny thing is that TCW didn’t ruin Grievous, Revenge of the Sith did. I can absolutely see ROTS Grievous being the same exact character in TCW. He’s overconfident, a bit of a joke, dangerous but easily defeated if you just keep your cool. This is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like GTs version, which makes no sense considering that series was made specifically as a marketing ploy for ROTS. TCW began 5 years after the film released. The closest Grievous got to this version of the character was the one where Kit Fisto and his padawan were trapped in his lair. Even in his first one on one with Ahsoka he was relatively terrifying. He still was a threat to any non named Jedi, but he was just a victim of plot armor. It also doesn’t make sense that he got his chest crushed right before ROTS, considering that the damage made it seem like he was severely wounded and needed at least a new set of lungs to be able to breathe.

1:9 smart , he got high ground Nice tactician

@@TheOriginalPoon Absolute TCW apologism. SW:CW explains why he has the cough and is cagier, TCW gives it to him from the beginning and had Ahsoka cut off one of his hands in his first appearance, then didn't give him a clean W outside of the comics. He's a dynamic character with a backstory and development in Legends and a static stock villain in TCW.

@@natek4488 lol no, he didn't walk away, the jedi did

what does it say about mace windu that he could crush him then

@@starlitstreet I don't know the force works in mysterious ways that even your traditional military power has yet to achieve

@@starlitstreet also I thought Jedi normally would not use that kind of technique to crush someone's organs or neck that's usually done by The sith but what I've heard from the Star wars community is that Mace windu might be a mixture

@@Ziyoblader Even if the average Jedi were to get pissed off and use Force crush on Grievous, it wouldn't work. They simply wouldn't have enough power. Then again, Windu is by no means average.

@@ForsakenDreamer7 Windu was also out of Grievous's range AND adept at using dark side techniques like that Force crushing without actually falling into the dark side. The high ground really worked against Grievous's favor there.

Yeah he just force punched them to pieces and uses the nuts and bolts from one as amunition for a, I call it, force shotgun.

Mace was said to be the most powerful jedi second only to Yoda and likely eventually Anakin had he remained a Jedi. I think what he did was what happens when an massively powerful and skilled force using warrior cuts loose. I could just as easily see Yoda, the Emperor, or an older Anakin or Luke doing the same thing in his place, take apart an entire droid army by themselves.

@@177SCmaro when they say Mace is 2nd to Yoda its harder to belive than God's existence. Yoda couldn't beat Dooku who finessed Obi-Wan & Anakin (basically killed them both being realistic) or Palpatine 2 people he has 800+ years of training on! Mace has shown more feats, skill & power without exerting as much effort than Yoda. Looking at the facts Mace is better than Yoda with Obi-Wan coming 3rd cause he thinks alot on how fights could go like with Maul killing Qui-Gon & in the rematch 3 step goodbyes Maul & being a defensive master (🤣 bullshit he almost always gets fucked up lol) Without Anakins interference Mace beats every villain & Anakins bitch ass in the series except Dooku idk who would win that but considering Dookus age Mace might win.

@@LordNexusTheFir I'm not saying that, I think George Lucas said that. I'm just conveying it. And I never said there wasn't inconsistencies in Star Wars to that end. It's also possible that Mace is less powerful in the Force then Yoda, but still a superior warrior. Yoda was less a warrior and more a teacher and he was only a couple decades away from dying from old age when he fought Dooku, remember.

Well I suppose one can go with "From a certain point of view, Yoda is the most powerful in the force; but Mace Windu is the most deadly in the use of the force." It could be argued perhaps that most Jedi are held back by sentiment, and lack the strength of conviction needed to execute an impressive offense; which is probably why Mace Windu stands out so much. Where as the Jedi on a whole seem to go with defensive measures, Mace has no qualms of striking quickly and ruthlessly. Which brings us back to sentiment: If Yoda had Mace's personality and they had a fight I think most people would probably agree that Yoda would win, but since Yoda is... well Yoda, I think people would then give the fight to Mace. Such is the problem when one goes with tactics to stop the other with minimal harm done, and the other goes with tactics to destroy.

Pretty sure he slaughtered like a dozen Gungans, and y’all gonna act like every Gungan is Jar Jar. He was originally the village idiot for a reason, you know. Also Gungan weapons are kinda specifically designed to shut down machines, including his droid parts, but okay. Also also, 2008 GRIEVOUS WIPED OUT THE NIGHTSISTERS.

@@Gojirawars03 True. And tbh the gungans should've killed him right there and easily won the war.

@@Gojirawars03 apparently like 10 gungan spear men are better than 6 jedi... huh, I guess that explains how the jedi order fell so easily

@@Gojirawars03 Shall we have the Gungan army fight the entirety of the Jedi Order then?

@@alduintheanti-dragonborn well what's better, a clone or a gungan

The fact that they just kept that secret up until that moment... Perfection.

I remember pretending to reenact that scene with my friends as a kid, that was always my favorite ever SW scene

When he did that they knew they are dead

We like to call that a trump card.

I interpret the arm splitting scene scene slightly differently. General Grevious is locked in the vault with 2 Jedi, it is a confined space with not much maneuverability for a person of his size. It's the whole reason they are just standing in one place trading lightsaber blows after the doors close. Space is what Grevious needs to thrive in combat as agility is one of his greatest strength. The situation is more dire for Grevious than it would first appear based on his performance so far. If the Jedi grow bold and coordinate to attack him from opposite sides, or start using Force powers, he risks being beaten as he has little room to dodge. For his safety, Grevious needs to ends the fight quickly, and so reveals the existence of 2 other arms to break their spirits. For example, that moment when they are both blocking his sabers and they are all paused, one of them could have done a Force Push with their free hand to propel him into the wall, but they were so scared by the 4 arms that's all they could focus on, not thinking of ways to win the fight, but just "I'm dead, I'm dead, I'm dead..." You can see it in both their eyes just before they are both slain. If they had kept their cool when the arms split like Windu and tried ranged Force Powers before he fully armed himself, they may of had a chance. Or heck, pull one of the lightsabers from his belt and start dual wielding like him now that you're fighting in close quarter where he can't move around.

That’s sequence with Dooku is great👌

That's actually a good idea for what went wrong- as time went on and Jedi survived contact with him (due to Palpatine wanting to spread the word, and his effectiveness being hamstrung, again by Palpatine's machinations), he became less shocking. He wasn't the flash of white across the background in a holo message, he was an open threat. His cybernetic augments allowed him to learn and predict a Jedi's battle style as they fought him, but by the same token, the Jedi learned what he was like, how he acted, and how to manufacture scenarios that remove his advantages. For example, Kenobi's famous 'hello there' would have failed, had the Jedi not known that Grevious prefers to take down Jedi opponents personally. We also know that Grevious had trouble dealing with form masters- he couldn't beat Dooku, no matter how hard he tried, and Kenobi was a master of the defensive form (I want to say Form III, but I could be wrong). Windu gets a good force crush in on Grevious' chest. If we're counting CW, which I generally do, but I understand the argument for not doing regarding Grevious, then Kit Fisto beats him very early on, due to his mastery of Form I. When Jedi fully master a Form, as more and more of them did (because of the war, and because General Grevious was killing the ones who didn't), they not just incorporate the force into their technique, they incorporate a philosophy of the force into their technique. For Kenobi, it's wait wait wait strike. For Fisto, it was be as churning water, chaotic and unpredictable. For Windu, it was speed, power, precision. Presumably, Dooku would have been something similar to Kenobi and Windu- a solid, disciplined defense, a knack for multitasking, and an awareness of weakness. It's possible to see where prediction would fail against a blank wall of defense- the first strike is the last strike, so how can you predict when and where it will fall?* It failed against Fisto's unpredictability. It failed against Dooku's measured exactness, where there really isn't any place to gather data about weakness. *Yes I know he killed him with a blaster, but at the same time, if the blaster hadn't been there, he would have just done the next thing, and the next thing, until he _did_ find a way to kill Grevious.

@@MarkusAldawn The problem is that it's not what went wrong. In Legends Grievous had no problem killing Jedi even as the war progressed and couldn't be taken down by anyone less than Yoda, Windu or Kenobi. In Canon he has suffered humiliating defeats at the hands of opponents way below master level even early in the war, but later we see him actually besting Obi Wan on occasions and easily going toe to toe with Maul. So "He became too known" is not the explanation.

@@ForsakenDreamer7 he cant manage even Ashoka...

@@user-nc3sb9jv1n Ahsoka ran away from Grievous in both their fights and was clearly hopelessly outmatched, even though he was just toying with her. Ofcourse she won't die, her plot armour is almost as thick as Rey's.

Grievous is literally a Dark Souls boss

@@matthewreyes5377 Some real Knight Artorias vibes. That all with being corrupted by evil and spamming flips.

*"It is recommended to upgrade the Jackdaw before starting this mission."*

@@sigma9904*Desynchronised*

And his name makes you shit yourself “General Grevious, Slaughterer of the Order

Though we all know Shaak Ti would just respawn

Then Ki Adi Mundi wouldn’t have mentioned the wookies and yoda wouldn’t have left and palpatine would have never won 😂

@@historicflame972 🗿

Clone: That's why I'm here.

@@jaset344 palpatine defeated yoda

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Everyone was on point in this series.

No IT IS THE BANEBLAAAAAADE

Including my comment, i count three guys saying the same thing 😂😂😂

Yup, we can thank George Lucas ego for that one

Darth Vader : "Do not be too proud of this technological terror you've created here. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." Grevious: "Well, you say that..."

The 3D Clone Wars didn't make him into a joke, that's just what Grievous is like in Revenge of the Sith. The reason he's super badass in the 2003 Clone Wars was because Revenge of the Sith was still being written, so his personality hadn't been decided on when they showed him to Tartokovski and his team.

He didn't want a repeat. And he wound up turning a potentially badass villain into a joke. Same as with Boba Fett. How's that for a joke?

Now u say it I saw him too at every lightsaber say "A fine Addition to my collection"

I imagine taking the death star and saying "an fine collection"

"Behind helmet holes that rendered his visage at once mournful and fearsome."

He's like a disinterested cat playing with his food

oh my God,his eyes his eyes,still looking up to him as a mentor.

Kinda ironic considering that Grievous still outsmarted and outplayed her in the end.

*desperation vs unstoppable killer

@JORDAN O Precisely.

@@ForsakenDreamer7 It was actually more so that the entire thing was rigged from the start by Palpatine.

@@Warhero1171 Even if it wasn't, Shaak Ti still would never win in a battle of wits with Grievous.

Would have liked it if they would have kept the accent though.

I hate how they massacred our boy, but so long as we hold the good memories.

And added a cape

And a Russian accent

That’s grievous’s training dummy

and the power of spinjutsu

@@ghaniKSW2 Ah yes, a man of culture

Go for the strongest, unless you can easily destroy the weakest

2003 Grievous: Destroys the entire Jedi Starfleet leaving only 3 Jedi alive, though incredibly injured. 2008-2014 Grievous: Kinda cool, but highlighted defeats include being rekt by Gungans and being rekt by Padawan learners.

I think everyone forgets that the only people that stop Grevious in the 2006 clone wars was ANAKIN, obi wan, and asoka (just barely mind you.). These were arguable some of the strongest jedi the order had.

@@memesterjohnson1402 There is no such thing as 2006 Clone Wars. And if you are referring to the 2008 Clone Wars, many lesser combatants than those you've listed have claimed victory over him. Prime example: fucking Gungans. Ridiculous.

once more, megamind effortlessly proving itself to be the perfect film.

@@jyxtheberzerking4824 And also proving that General Grievous, the 2003 version at least, definitely earned the title of Supervillain.

Ooooh I can support that

what do you mean propaganda of the Republic?

@@SpectacularSpidey670 So glad you asked. I mean that. Well the idea first slipped in my head with the Newsreel narrator at the start of every episode, reminiscent of old WWII propaganda. In Clone Wars Separatists are portrayed as either craven or cartoonishly stupid. General Grievous comes to mind. Genndy's Grievous was fucking terrifying. It gave me nightmares as a kid, as he picked Jedi apart with his *foot talons*. He was a lakonic, multi limbed assassin. It was shown in another short that Mace Windu crushed his chest but it doesn't explain how he turned into basically a synthed Snidely Whiplash. And the Jedi. In Clone Wars they're humanized, and win the day with lightsaber skill and clever tricks. Genndy got closer to what the Jedi would be like if you weren't force sensitive: Eldritch horror pyrotechnic wizards. An invisible means of disassembling droids only Coruscant sorcerers can use. If I saw Mace Windu crunch a sand crawler or Anakin turn a Skakoan into a tube of toothpaste, I would be glad they're on my side and want them off my planet. Anakin's temper flares in Clone Wars only under 'justifiable' conditions. In the shorts Asajj insults him and he promptly bludgeons her to death with a lightsaber.

@@wayneellis7297 that's a very good headcanon, I'll be borrowing it!

It's an interesting theory, but I don't think the Republic would ever show their darker side that we see in later seasons