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@@clashcon11 razor,xinyan and eula, sad

My Razor goes with nahida now.

@@wilhammartins9898 razor with nahida can work but not physical, the only reaction that increases physical damage is super conduct that being eletro+cryo

@@thanhminhnguyen7749 sad how you forgot physical Jean and keqing

this for sure.

If anything I think mihoyo is nerfing physical damage

Maybe in the future, khaenriah will be a physical country 😂. Hoyo might add enemies with all elemental resistance, who knows

Fuck. These. Until I pulled out Wanderer they were the bane of my poor Razor's existence, at world lvl 7 trying to kill them with mostly phys damage is a high tier masochism.

The human enemies have negative phys res and they are a lot more common than the ruin enemies.

mhmmm and tbh its more shafted since there is a whole series of enemies that give a middle finger to physical...ruin bosses which have mobs and elite enmies and even bosses, and thats not going anywhere by current standards since they are vast and spread through tevyat. So physical is just suffering as the third brother of geo and anemo dps. I think, they should release a gorou type character for physical, release a set like deepwood for physical, rework superconduct to break defense with even requirements of just physical damage but thats not need. Becauseeee, no team has electro and cryo naturally....no team just casually has a cryo and electro team to abuse the def reduction. Cause cryo is either melt team, which electro would interfere or freeze which it also interferes. And electro has electro charged which would be interrupted by cryo, although cryo and electro can coexist in dendro teams. But dendro teams already have their packed teams, no place for any random cryo unit just for the sake of def reduction. But yes......these things are needed for physical to be on par.

raiden hypercarry is basically a purple physical team but its so strong that ppl may ignore that

@@teernage6715 Even Xiao can be used as a decent EM bot.

@@vht1 electro still benefits from VV shred, it's better than physical because of that.

@@jy1178 You forgot Superconduct.

My entire team was reliant on E, and that doing reactions.... And Noelle's shield. I honestly don't even know how I survived that fight...

@@nikk-named I cried that's how I got through it.

The fight was okay for me since I played every single story and event quest with Traveler at lvl 90 and 4pc Gladiators just spamming normals because that's what they do canonically, I even considered using Dull Blade lol

eula in raiden shogun fight go brrr

I used my phys razor in that fight ezpz

I mean, now I want to see a Chongyun Cryo infused Eula with a cryo goblet. Not sure if you'd want blizzard strayer as you'd be shattering any frozen foes.... maybe SR 4 piece for an extra 50% normal attack and 18% attack

m e l t e u l a

Well Xinyan and Razor get most of their physical output from normal attacks. There is no way to infuse a burst so something like cryo Eula just isn't worthwhile. As a side note, c6 Bennett with Full EM Razor, dendro and Xingqui is unironically much better than his physical build. The down side is you have to play in Bennett's burst so it lacks mobility.

@@J.sh_CDN people have been trying to do that since she came out and it’s not with cuz her dmg takes a huge nose dive

You clearly haven't heard of pyro Eula

Okay so i also have quite an idea... Elemental mastery of the character that causes frozen reaction will increase the durability of the freeze aura(against blunt attacks before shattering*), and will also increase the duration of the freeze by quite a small yet noticable amount at higher EM values. Shatter will also scale off of the one who froze the target with their EM, probably add quite like a 5% or 10% something damage increase to the instance of damage that causes the shatter effect. Short explanation: You freeze, more EM=better shatter effect. Physical nukes deal more damage on shatter, and even more the more EM the character that froze the target has.

Armor penetration

How about simplifying it, shatter is scaled off both EM and physical dmg bonus, and make it instantaneous rather than having another form of budget lightfall sword stacking. Also using pyro on frozen enemies pretty much triggers melt, so that last idea might as well merge with the first one

Shatter wont ever be changed. It was supposed to be a nerf to claymores taking advantage of freeze.

Shatter is donde by claymore users and GEO not physycal dmg

Tried that, weaker than superconduct sadly

@@LeThug-027 yes we know this they are saying revisit and buff shatter like they did with transformative reactions such as swirl because the damage from swirl was just abysmal back then

cryo archon? copium x'D

A new artifact set for this would be great

@@weesumm you mean new limited 5* like nilou? If you want to change reaction you have to pay for it. Nilou and nahida are prime examples of that

shes still carrying me at ar 50+ 😍

Like any other character couldn’t That being said it’s not really fair they don’t add any more physical characters

@@flyon9694 fr

Im doing fine with Eula in Abyss just because Raiden is busted, Rosaria is busted, and Zhongli lets me go gorilla mode

@@Sai-sg2fx i think a physical anemo character would be sick. we already saw physical kazuha builds. imagine how cool a focused physical anemo character would be

I mean they just released a whole new element (dendro) which has pretty convoluted reactions (bloom->hyperbloom/burgeon). I mean I love dendro but the reactions take a bit of getting used to. Eventually we'll get another phys unit. Phys hasn't been abandoned any more than pyro has been abandoned. If you want to talk about something that has been abandoned talk about weak points on enemies and aimed shot bow playstyle LMAO

i'm so excited to go back to my physical kaeya 😢 he's been carrying me til AR52, mobs these days are just too tanked, i have to bow to dendro meta

@@jadecoolness101 I'm feeling some The Bell copium i feel u bro mine it's at lv90 r5 waiting for Fochalors i mean she has to be the hydro claymore. Right? Right?

Hopefully that new Gorou type support comes in the next Eula rerun, would make sense the delay then

@@FelixMomentvm Mika(I think that was his name) would make sense as a support for physical dps’s and Eula specifically, considering he is a knight in her reconnaissance group

I mean Rosaria could be a normal attack physical dps she was mine at least for like 7-8 months

Rosaria is your answer, her with the dragonspine weapon or the craftable ones is a great dps

@@TheHellleader She is decent but a 5 Star with better Basestats would be much better. Looking forward for a physical 5 Star Polearm tho.

I've never seen anyone run her as physical and I've personally ran a physical Zhongli for like 3 weeks before going back to hp, so if a 4* physical unit is good and a non physical 5* is good a specialized 5* physical unit would be amazing

Shenhe.

reminder to rewatch

Mika is terrible lol

@@MurdersAndExecutions true, and I’m not upset about it. I hate his design so I’m glad he’s bad without C6.

@@aquatazer That has to be the stupidest reasoning I've ever heard to justify a character being terrible.

Mika is awful until c6, then he is ok at best, sadly :/ my poor Eula need a real support.

I'm hoping for Mika to be a physical support too

Leaks sounds like he will be cryo healer with physical support in constellations, if he’s not a battery then doubt he will replace diona on Eula’s team, Eula’s doesn’t really need support in dmg since her multipliers are already high as f

I think he is gonna buff her because his kit is speculated to increase normal attack speed, but it might change in the future.

If he is a physical support, that probably means Dehya is gonna be a physical unit. She fits the requirement of having a claymore already, so its not too outside the realm of possibility

@@AbriDragon What no pretty sure she’s gonna be burgeon focus

If they made one now they would either be a 5* (like Shenhe) or a 4* that barely functions without c6 (Faruzan). Hoyoverse is pretty much made it clear that they aren't making good c0 4*s anymore. Also, Superconduct is already enough res shred. Physical damage bonus buffs will also quickly hit diminishing returns. It is pretty easy to get over 100% physical damage bonus already with the artifacts/weapons in the game. The only style of buff I could see working well without also just buffing everyone would be something like Sara's c6 but for only physical damage, extra crit damage. Atk% buffs are also already to common.

@@Nowaylarry Mika

i would love to play razor and eula but they have no supports or would feel just weird to play i want a phiscal sara or faruzan for them like a cryo charcter and a set like deep wood moemorys that decrease or increase phy damge so it feel like it would actully work they could also make super conduct lower resistance by the amount of em a charcter has

All the characters we know of that have a high chance of being physical are living legends.

@@scythe789. It's speculated that mika is a physical support that is meant for eula.

I don't think players are necessarily more interested in the elements. Usually, one of the first things you see whenever a cryo or electro (non-catalyst) character is released is people trying to turn them into physical DPS characters. There's definitely an interest in physical DPS. The problem is that, much like how Kazuha can't turn any ol' elemental character into a true DPS, superconduct + Yun Jin does not stack up to a kit that is actually well-designed to do physical damage + superconduct.

Exactly that’s why no one cares about Eula. Frankly it’s for the better. No one needs her anyway.

And then they’ll lock half their kit behind C6… so only whales or long-time savers can use him/her. Lmao

I dont think that it will be in this year bcs they are still need to do more dendro characters and they are more focus on dendro reactions since its still new element

@@TacticalDimples yes thats a good thing, rewards the long time users

I expect Varka to be a physical anemo dps, in lore his abilities hasnt been mentioned and one of the upcoming fatui will definitely be a capable physical dps

Yunjin already exists

I also think it'd be interesting if the RES shred from superconduct scaled with EM. It'd open a lot more options for build paths, and it could give phys dmg just that edge it needs to be (almost) relevant again

Yeah why not give "wither" or something from cryo dendro reaction and it gives def shred or something

@@Deadlock-g4t it would be broken to a point that playing a freeze team with ayaka c0 and defense shred would be like playing c2 raiden hypercarry.

Xinyan is somewhat of an example of a physical character with no vision, because her pyro is useless in her kit for physical damage. We already know how the community loves Xinyan. /s Physical characters should always be cryo or electro to proc superconduct. Or mihoyo can make up some more reactions, but that's highly doubtful.

​@@jy1178 Good point. What I had in my mind though is a character that attacks swiftly and they are rewarded with dmg the more hits you get in, kinda like Eula's burst but instead of being their burst it's build in the normal attacks which both their skill and burst would compliment the normal attacks, providing the character with attack speed or different stats, or even apply something like bleed. It is indeed doubtful that the will make a new reaction but it would be fun to have something gimicky with dendro and cryo. I also think a new support 4star like the ones we get now, that heavily supports certain elements or playstyles would benefit the physical characters or at least make them more viable or fun to play.

In the lore he already existed, one of the leaders of Favonius's knights never had vision and fought with dual claymores.

Pantalone

@@brago900 I don't know who that is but it sounds badass.

And this team is do fun actually, it's so funny how good it is Х)

@@Inaorym No its cope

It's more crazy that his aggravate team is actually comparable to cyno in functionality.

@@chaosinfernoid9008 Do you not know what "fun" means

@@chaosinfernoid9008 The only real down side is that you have to play in Bennett's burst circle. So it isn't great for all content. It is by far Razor's best build and team though.

While it's also weird to talk about physical all this time and don't mention her or Shenhe at all. Are they enough to make physical viable? Not really, but they definitely have some physical support scrapes in their kits.

Definitely used her for that at lower ARs. Even with a cryo damage cup, the spear gave enough physical damage percent that all you needed to do was bump up attack and you would do great hybrid damage

@@D0kkuri totally should have mentioned them, even if it was just to do half of superconduct and buff physical a little bit. Maybe we need a new electro support who also buffs physical, like I wish Kuki had some constellations to buff physical damage more. I guess you can always just run her as a Healer/Tenacity/superconduct support alongside Rosaria/Shenhe and YunJin and maybe most characters a decent physical dps

@@D0kkuri Omg i also was like: Hello we do have two supports? Lmao what a clown lol

Just ayaka 👁👄👁

which is worse than rosaria until c6... yeah nice...

except he’s somehow a damage loss regardless of whoever you substitute him for.

Yep, having c6 mika, c6 rosaria and c0 shenhe. Mika performs quite a bit worse. Around 13 sec difference in floor 12

Eternal Ayaka

Yes, Indeed

Ayaya

the tons of physical resist in abyss was the main reason I dropped pyhsical xiangling

Unfortunately, shatter to physical wouldn't work. Only claymore characters can shatter so that leaves out every other non-claymore character like physical Keqing or Fischl who can't use it.

We already have Xinyan, Rosaria and Shenhe.

It is Vennessa's signature weapon, you are going to wait a long time for the weapon to return to its rightful owner.

Physical Keqing brrrr

Due to it's base atk it's actualy only useful on Bennett

@@brago900 but she is dead

@@jd3455 She is an ascended, she is in Celestia most likely imprisoned.

Because her cryo reverse melt team is actually good.

Kokomi with clam set already does this. Use Eula/rosaria/kokomi/any electro character. You get extra shatter damage, 30k bubble explosions, you can run thrilling tales, plus the freeze will make eula's burst easier to hit.

@@lawfulgoodnun1646 Kokomi can't actually max out the clam damage off field, so the damage isn't high enough to be actually that good considering you should be doing 30K bubbles unbuffed anyways

This, in fact we need both, but an off field physical dps that enjoys all the on field dps buffs seems like they way to go first in my opinion

@@leojustice3367 you do over 30k with phys shred so it doesnt really matter

Her C1 deals physical damage and buffs auto attacks, so I think her physical build was intended by the developers.

¿Never? His signature weapon gives bonus physical damage. Fitchl was designed to be a physical DPS with the option to play as a hybrid physical/electro DPS (basically you give her physical bonus with set and weapon and electro bonus with goblet).

Even when built for physical Oz probably outdamages her.

I think she was actually meant to be phys because her signature weapon has phys substat and her kit encourages normals, but elemental reactions are just so much better that it’s forgotten

@@Mia-lw9xh I forgot about that yeah you are right

Yes to the crit damage on physical attacks. More physical damage bonus buffs wouldn't really do much though. It is already easy enough to get over 100% physical damage bonus as is. You'd quickly hit diminishing returns on that buff.

​@@Nowaylarryso we need more Rosarias and Xinyans (but actually good).

@@adam.n-steve Well Rosaria is at least good. Just not for physical (other than support at c6). She does well as a cryo battery or in reverse melt. I'd argue that she was one of the last really solid all around 4*s added to the game until dendro made Kuki good.

@@Nowaylarry In Shinobu's defense, she was always meant to be a Dendro based character since she and Heizou were the last actual Inazuman character released before Sumeru. She was also in The Chasm Archon quest which is literally besides the Dendro domain. So I think it was intentional or her to be scaled on EM but yeah, 4 stars nowadays are great but only if you have them at C6

I started playing the game after 2022 Christmas and I hope with my full heart for the same

And if HYV are trolls, they'll make him a twink with a sword or a bow user 😂

It does not belong to Physical Damage. Shatter is from Frozen which scales EM not PD. Big EM = big Shatter reaction damage you will get .

@@holdenm.c5495 But it does physical and is triggered by heavy hits like... A physical attack

@@demonking-zm3rs not all physical attacks can trigger shatter

People playing Genshin only for combat are really handicapping themselves with the game's content, this is an open world game and in open world games, combat is just a tiny portion of what the genre offers. Look at GTA, the most successful and popular content of GTA5 is RP followed by story, streamers get 100k views not for combat, but playing their characters doing every day life activities like opening shops, hanging out at parties, going hiking etc. There are so many types of content in Genshin and combat is not even the sweatiest type of content, it's housing. There are people out there who take months to plan design, craft and then take a ton of effort to glitch and position pieces to combine objects and achieve incredible structures. Housing is always the true endgame in games that feature it, such as Final Fantasy 14, where trying to get a house is said to be about as hard as IRL and FF14's housing is not even as big in scale as Genshin's. Genshin's most robust content is actually lore though and lore exploration is the biggest rabbit hole in the entire game, it is the one content that gets exponentially bigger with every patch and bridges across hoyoverse's other games to form an even bigger lorescape.

@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat there’s a minute number of players who play only for combat. however, there’s a larger amount of players who play with building their characters to the fullest in mind. everyone enjoys all facets in genshin but what is the point of cons or diff weapons if there’s nothing you’re building towards. open world games have multiple options for you to participate in but an important part of your game and player base shouldn’t be effectively abandoned

@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat I won’t say I disagree with you, because I too believe genshin is a huge game and there’s so much more to enjoy than just combat. I am a huge fan of genshin’s Lore, Music, Exploration, Puzzles. I enjoy my teapot and I take part in all of the mini game events; to this day, the wind trace event is one of my favorite pieces of content hoyoverse has ever put out. But this doesn’t mean that combat isn’t the main focus or the most enticing part of genshin’s ample selection of contents, and the part they pushed on players since day one. Regardless of how much you consider combat or enjoy it, one should be able to see this. While I agree that teapot farming is way sweatier than any form of combat, it’s not what they push forward each patch with every character, and it’s not the thing players spend their premium currency on; there are no characters focused on improving the teapot, and while some characters like yoimiya might have a talent related to it, it’s more like a little extra on the side than a reason to pull for a character. When they present the upcoming patch in their streams, they’ll show you the combat skills of the new characters in great detail, while the lore is barely touched upon. I have never pulled for constellations or weapons but I do know many players that do, and if combat wasn’t the enticing, under the spotlight, superstar of genshin’s table of contents, I doubt their banners would sell as much as they do. Players don’t pull for c2 Raiden or c1 hu Tao because of the lore, or because those constellations and weapons are helpful to solve puzzles or farm for the teapot, they pull because they want to utilise a character to its max potential in combat. Unfortunately, there’s no way of spending primogem to improve your teapot or your fishing rod, and I do believe that should be more than enough to prove my point; I am at risk of repeating myself but I don’t condemn hoyoverse for diversifying their content or the players that enjoy the game in different ways, but this doesn’t mean we should simply justify the poor amount of combat content by saying that an open world game is much more than that: yes it’s true, but also it’s not. I do want to give credit where credit is due, and I love a lot of things from genshin, but from a game design perspective the card game is a nice mini game, while the combat is clearly much more refined and without a doubt the reason at least a huge part of their player base got into genshin in the first place, and not acknowledging that is in my opinion extremely unhealthy both for the game and the company behind it, as well as for the player base.

Yea I think we are all more or less on the same page and I also consider combat as one of Genshin's main content. However emphasis should be put on the fact that it's only one of many types of content and shouldn't be the one deciding whether Genshin has "no content" when it's clearly rich in content. Nowadays I don't pull characters for meta anymore, I pull them because I want to play them during their story segments. I always try to get characters I like during the Archon quest so I can have a canon party for full immersion.

@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat i agree the game shouldn’t be described as empty of content, but I think we can all agree that not offering a proper update or an explanation for the lack of combat content it’s detrimental to genshin’s image in the eye of the public. Personally I think they just wanted to shut down all the complaints about it but the anxiety comment triggered a lot of people and it’s been quite the opposite of helpful. I think combat will be updated at some point, just like physical damage comps, and even coop features; but they should have acknowledged the issue and be more transparent to their player base.

Well, now we know Mika will be reliable

Hoyo already said they wouldn't be changing or augmenting the crystallize reaction so I'm not sure what a crystallize-centric character would even do. Also Shenhe already shreds phys resistance

@@kairos-049 They don't have to globally change an entire reaction. They can do something simillar to Nilou's passive and release a character that can locally change properties of a certain reaction. Imagine an EM scailing geo unit that creates stronger crystal shards, or a Physical Claymore user that somehow makes shatter useful.

@@kairos-049 Shenehe isn't a dedicated physical support and I doubt they will hold themselves to that. This game has many years to go and they've already proved through Nilou that augmenting reactions is within their scope. Edit: Yes, they will likely not change crystallize as a reaction, I agree, but they will likely release a geo character that augments crystallize. Important distinction. Do you really expect for the next 5 years they'll leave it alone just because they said that close to the beginning of the game's life? Not arguing here... just the way I see it. It's fine if you disagree, I just don't agree with you.

Physical doesn’t need more physical resistance shred, you can already do absurd amounts with superconduct + Eula e + Zhongli. Res shred is halved below 0, so it’s kinda useless. She needs other things, like DMG bonus or def shred or something

@@cobaltstar_8281 Yah I can agree with that.

They ain't gonna add reactions. If they fo add something like this, it would he the characters' 2nd ascension passive like Nilou

If they add any more reactions it might cause anxiety and depression and could confuse a lot of players to drive them away from the game. Change is scary 😨 man...

Geo and anemo don't stay on the enemies, it'd be impossible to apply both at the same time.

There are still elements to be implemented in the game. The seven base elements are only the natural elements of Teyvat but there are other elements that have external origins. In the card game they make you a ''spoiler'' of the colorless element of light capable of turning into any element (this is the element of the traveler). And Dainsleif is confirmed as a future playable character and his powers are linked to the abyss.

@@brago900 they legit said they are not adding anymore reactions or elements past what we have already in the interview they did a whole ago that they said no to 99% of the stuff we wanted Most games don't ever go past 5 with the 3 colours countering and then 2 off colours that benefit and counter each other, I dont see primordial element being an actual element we get

I feel like it could be the opposite 😭 because the the ruin machine type enemies have insane phys res- so any new enemies related to that region would have the same issue

Artifact sets are also an option. Preharps we can get Physical Viridescent or Deepwood

It's not rumor. It's fact that Panatalone doesn't have a vision but he can have delusion like Childe or Signora

Or just k*ll the character making them unplayable. (I.e. Signora)

lmao no but seriously....I would only want one c6, eula.

Varka

"Only C6" ing X character. Yeah only a thousend dollars am i right? KEK Also there will be. Deffinitly. They always continue with the same characters.

@@chaosinfernoid9008 nah, trust me, there might be other ways such as a c6 ayaka with shenhe and all that do outrageous amounts of damage. But someone like c6 eula is not gonna happen anytime soon. Also....I think they meant that IF they could c6, and as a f2p or dolphin you can...with multiple reruns.

@@chaosinfernoid9008 well, you don't have to spend thousand dollars, multiple reruns would suffice. I have been saving for a long time and now I have almost guaranteed C6. About another Eula-like character, trust me, it will never happen, powercreep is gone for good.

Bro every mono hypercarry team will eventually hit a wall ( elemental shield ) saying mono anemo or any other mono hypercarry team is unpractical is stupid, look at raiden hypercarry or xiao hypercarry they still melt the abyss even though they are focused on a single element electro and anemo

​@@elloygarcia8155 ​ I didn't mean unpractical gameplay wise, I meant unpractical from a development standpoint. Geo and Phys have a stronger baseline to make units than "carry Anemo", considering they natural scalings (defense in geo's case), weapon stats (def and phys dmg bonus) or having a reaction (superconduct in phys case).

or just make superconduct and shatter a phys dmg bonus scaling + EM scaling. i mean melt and vapor already has crits. And since these won't crit better just give them phys dmg bonus scaling.

All maybe not but burning should be able to do it.

superconduct should've worked like Quicken tbh

Single dumbest take in this section

Shatter's not a physical reaction. It's a "heavy" attack reaction. Stuff like claymores, geo attacks and Klee's attacks can shatter. Swords, lances and bows can't shatter.

Physical Qiqi has even logic since its main source of damage is the clam set and the only way to increase its damage is to reduce the opponent's physical resistances.

I feel like lots of cryo and electro characters have physical as a backup option. Physical Keqing being one, as well as your physical Kaeya and Qiqi. Physical Fischl used to be a thing, as well as most crescent pike users. Now, I actually use a physical Kuki a lot of the time. Her Skill works great with the Pale flame set, and her normal attack multipliers are decent you just don't expect much from her skill or burst other than a bit of electro for superconduct

Shenhe already does reduce physical resistance, and in addition to the cryo buff her skill can either buff skills/bursts or attacks regardless of element.

@@Saturos226 Shenhe is NOT that good as it should on paper. Rosaria C6 is much more consistent than Shenhe on doing that work and is also much more accessible as unit. There's no place for Shenhe on a Physical team, unless you want to pretend so.

@@BodylessAndNowhere a c6 4* is the definition of not accessible

@@nia5370 I would be able to agree with you on this notion if it wasn't for the fact that Shenhe is the ONLY 5 star character aside from obviously the brand-new Sumeru ones that hasn't gotten a SINGULAR rerun despite being added to the game an entire YEAR ago, and as long as banners remain as they are now, this issue will only be exacerbated further and further to the point that people will have to wait even longer than that to see any older limited 5 star characters return

Xinyan, Rosaria, Shenhe, Dori, kuki, Yunjin, Zhongli.

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