George R.R. Martin Is Based As F*ck 

"I'm good." Truly some legendary writing

"I can do it better!" Okay.... make your own shit then.... from scratch!

IDK... Rings of Power gave us the decades best on liners " A dog can bark at the moon... BUT IT CAN NOT BRING IT DOWN ! " " The Sea is always right ! (altogether now) The Sea is always right !" " You have not seen what i have seen." ..I have. No.. You have not seen what I have seen" I broke down in tears and was hospitalized after hearing those pearls of wisdom.

Writers and directors adhere to original story and care about it: millions flood in Writers and directors throw the source material out the window: instantly flops You'd think they would notice a trend

"You wanna watch theRings of Power tonight?" "Nah, iM gOoD"

Screen writers really thinking they're better writers than the guy who audited the dictionary.

Ruined Ender's Game, ruined The Witcher, ruined Wheel of Time. That was pretty much my childhood right there.

I will say that Peter Jackson managed to nail it when he did it with the Lord of the Rings. He changed a lot from the books, even removed major characters like Tom Bombadil and Glorfindel, but did it gracefully and made it serve the medium. It CAN be done right, it just rarely is.

""We are Evil!" "I'm Good!" They proceed to fighting." Peak modern writing right here, worth of replacing what Tolkien did.

It's insane that they don't understand that there's a reason why the book they're adapting into a movie is getting the chance of being adapted in the first place.

"I'm good" top tier writing there...

Remember that one interview with Peter Jackson? The one where he goes "Tolkien was really specific about _his_ values and _his_ message, so we thought it was only right to let that shine through as much as possible. You know.. the banal beauty of the countryside. The corruption of man. The need for good people to stand against evil. The fact that even the simplest and humblest of people can make the world a better place." Something like that, I'm probably paraphrasing heavily. Anyhow, this was in 2001. I think that was the _last time_ anyone in Hollywood had such a thought.

Or in George’s case, the film is the film, and the book might one day be the book.

In other words, those "screenwriters" are just making fanfiction and telling everybody their headcanon is official. Some of them even do self-inserts.

George R.R martin finishing his last book like Chris Roberts trying to finish Star Citizen.

Amazon: Would you like to watch Rings of Power? Me: 2:13

Artemis Fowl: villain protagonist Disney: "Too risky, let's play it safe!"

On the flipside, when Netflix approached Oda Eiichiro for the rights to make a live action adaptation of One Piece, they asked him if they could buy the rights to the show and he said flat out "No, you may not. But you can borrow my IP if you promise that you will make absolutely zero changes to the characters and the narrative."

One thing that is worth mentioning is that Rings of Power being that terrible is not entirely the writers fault, it’s Amazon’s corporate greed. They didn’t have the rights to adapt directly from the Silmarilion or any of the Tolkien books, but decided to do the show anyway, condemning it to be nothing more than a fan fiction.

George learned the hard way with the last couple seasons of og GoT.

Sauron: "I'm bad!"

"I'm good" You know what, I don't need the context on that. It's hot dog water.

2 weeks later... *Proceeds to nerf blood and cheese

It's good that an author is speaking out, especially one with some pull in the entertainment industry like, George R.R. Martin.

Looks like George finally realized the answer to his own question about why fanbases celebrate the demise of a horrendous adaptation.

He's completely right. I'm tired of these talentless people changing things for "Modern audiences" only for it to flop majority of the time. There was a time where people who were actually talented were the one's making changes now it's being left to producers and screen writers that either have no successes under their belt or it'll actually be their first time doing it as they destroy major franchises. Usually people would use Lord of The Rings as example of something that's received big changes but for the better but times have changed and we can't trust these people to pull off something like that anymore.

I don't think you have to follow a book 1:1 to adapt it but the problem is when these writers and producers decide to change things for the sake of "being different". There are certainly things that might be necessary to change but often those are not the things they are looking for when deciding to make changes.

Know whats even better ? Authors who finish their series.

You know what’s crazy to me is in this era of movies tv shows etc etc if a screen writer/show runner actually stayed true to the source material (as close as can be done without changing things) you know us the viewers would lift them up like they are lisan al gaib.

Even people who did not read the books can see exactly where the source material ended and the TV writers took over on GoT. It became full of plot armor and only a "Class A character can kill another class A character". Martin knew exactly what could be cut from the story not to impact the overall show... the TV writers simply did not.

You completely undermined your point (well, George’s point) with that last clip. “I’m Good” Such powerful writing!

Is that oblivion music in the background?

He is actually so right that I believe twitter wont acknowledge it and they'll cancel him or something

Here's their secret: they don't read the source material - they can't even be bothered to read comic books let alone full length books.

There has to be some adaptation to convert from one medium to another. The constraints of time and production cost are more often the culprit behind these changes than a screenwriters ego. They have a job to parse this down with a cost based lens. That being said. If you cant cover the costs of remaining true to the underlying thematics, key plot points and general scope of the source material then you shouldn't be doing it. None of this is relevant to how the machinations of production works though. The accountability to the original is increasingly diffuse the higher up the chain you go. The investment is a care/profit duality where the more you care the less you profit and the more you care for profit the more you profit.

Holy shit, the "I'm good" part at the end, icing on the proverbial cake XD

Imagine walking up to a Monet, Picasso, Rembrandt, etc in a museum, whipping out a brush and paint, and "making it your own."

For a second I was worried he died.

Villeneuve’s Dune and HOD are some of the only recent film/TV properties where noticeable changes make sense and don’t detract from the overall story.

"The sea is always right." -From Rings of Power

It’s like taking a wonderful filet mignon cooked by a renowned chef and handing it to a short order chef to be turned into ground beef and thinking it’s going to be better.

''Ronald'' Dahl, Im lovin it.

First Blood was a rare example of a screenplay improving on the book. Also Stephen King's The Mist mainly because of Frank Darabont's ending.

My Mom is a big fan of Little House, has watched different versions, owns and has said that she read the books as a kid and as an adult, and she always says that she prefers the Michael Landon tv show version the most, even over the original book version. I also often see people online often putting The Shining Movie version as better then the book.

"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own"..

"..don't send it to me and expect me to prove it or something." Horikoshi: This guy understands me.

This hits like a fucking truck after Season 2 of his book's show aired on Sunday and they decided to change a very important scene from the book and made it a million times worse.

... was that a scene from The Rings of Power at the end? Oh my god...

Ronald Dahl is underrated

"How has everything become so toxic? It used to be that if you were a fan of Star Trek, you liked Star Trek. Now it seems like half of the people calling themselves Star Trek fans, hate Star Trek, and the Star Wars fans hate Star Wars, and the Tolkien fans hate Rings of Power, what the hell, maybe it's because it's changing..." - George R.R. Martin

00:34 when he says Ronald Dahl I was waiting for chat to go nuts. then someone says "Ronaldo SIUUUU" lmao

If you look at Tolkien's world. He made an intricate history with languages and lore. And a story to go with that world. Almost as if he intended for people to build UPON that world. Not rebuild what is already there. If they had made their own story, on Tolkien's world without changing anything. It could at worse only be "meh". But when you ruin established characters with badly written dialogues, when the man himself (Tolkien) literally had characters written for a reason, with a reason. Take this example from Rings of power. Gandalf shows his powers "I AM GOOD". That was cringe as hell. Meanwhile at the end when he says "When in doubt (insert hobbits name), always follow your nose". It was probably one of the best lines in the entire show. That quote is straight from Peter Jackson's movie. And it works because Jackson showed more respect towards the characters due to well written dialogue. Him and his team studied the books, the characters. And they went from there. Jackson had to re-write shit as well, but he never once disprespected the source material. Which is why the trilogy still holds up today. Two decades later. The only thing i missed from the books were the War in the Shire. The final battle showing the growth of the hobbits as they return home from their journey. I understand why he didn't have it in there, i accept it. But i don't like it. But he respected the source material.

just like the art twitter post “fixed” but on the larger medium

The Wheel of TIme is a disgrace of an adaptation.

Fans of games have been dealing with this for decades. There are so, _so_ very few quality adaptations of game narratives to other media. I am not even addressing how difficult it is to adapt an interactive media to a non-interactive one -- even when all they do is attempt to adapt the core narrative, to tell the game's main story while removing much of the gameplay-centric sections, they nearly always fail. Both books and games generally have a lot that is removed, truncated or simply changed outright to tell the story the adaptation's writer wishes to focus on sometimes for no real reason. For example the Fallout show had the entire rest of the USA, and the world, outside the established games' narratives to work with but instead dug itself into the most lore-dense region and immediately went about changing existing details. Then there is the upcoming Borderlands film...

That last bit reminds me of "Somehow Palatine returned".

Of all the people who should be pissed about show runners messing up authors work, that guy should be the most pissed

There is some great fan fiction out there, the problem is these writers are not fans, they hate the source material, and they hate the fans.

I've been saying this for years about all sorts of properties where the movie makers completely ignore or pervert the source material in favor of their "reimagining".

Biggest issue is books tend to have a lot of internal monologue that translates poorly to a screen. Also sometimes authors dont really finish the series....

It's crazy to think that they forget these stories and books got popular because the person that originally made them made it good. Why do they think "changing it up" is going to ever be received well? I think the biggest thing is that people don't understand the essence of the material, they just see a story and think it can be different or they can inject their opinion/agendas and it will magically be "good". As amongold says, if you are confident you can make a book as good as some of these popular stories, make one yourself rather than trying to edit someone else's work.

That's exactly why the One Piece adaptation on Netflix was a succes, they created the show with the official creator of the manga/anime beside them. He had the final word, if he wanted otherwise, it was going to change or the show wouldn't launch.

This is, in my view, underpinned by a larger shift in culture in the United States and perhaps the West. Businesses are also run to one degree or another by committee; everyone believes their perspective is valuable enough to be included in some way shape or form in the final product, whatever it is. We have to get comfortable with the idea, the reality, that in some spheres, other people are just better than we are. It doesn't mean their lives have more worth, or that we are somehow dimmed by their flame. It doesn't mean that being "better" extends across all endeavors. But it does mean that when someone has a cracking, lights out good idea, product, or story we should do what we can to facilitate making that thing manifest in the real world in as clean and pure a form as it was conceived by those who created it. Our constant insistence on "self esteem", which is in its way important, has grown beyond intended borders to encompass the idea that ALL of us are equally awesome at all things so really, why should her idea take precedence over mine? Keep down this road and you end up with mediocrity and dreck and failure. Step aside from time to time and let the man, or woman, go through. Just. Step. Aside.

Coppola's rendition of Stoker's Dracula was better than the book IMO.

Aaah the legendary Ronald Dahl

He summarized the last decade of entertainement industry. Hundreds of copycats with big egos.

It’s always been like that through. That’s why there is an award for best adapted screenplay and another for best original screenplay. This has occurred since a century ago when movies began to be created.

I’m a massive bookworm and the same crap happens in this community as well. The amount of “booktubers” who think they can write it better than the author is so funny they say they would do a better job and when they do try their crap ends up on kindle unlimited or kindle for like 70p (cents) with like 10 reviews and forgotten. These people are insane and can’t do anything for themselves and have no talent so they want to take over someone else who is talented and ruin it. They are actually insane and I hate them so much for trying cancel and ruin amazing books and films.

Evil doesn't create only corrupts everything it touches...

No way he says I'm good in the show LMAO

The difference between them is that he is a writer because of hard work and she is a screenwriter because she went yachting.

I love fanfic (I mean I write it) but he's absolutely right that showing it off to the og writer unprompted is. Very much frowned upon, even in fanfic circles. The fan in fanfic is supposed to mean by fans for fans. Not by fans for the writer. It's you going "I love this so much, anybody like this that much too?" and a bunch of people going "Yeeee." It's helped me massively improve my own writing because I try to achieve something comparable to my favorite authors and study how they write.

The only example I can think of where filmatisation is better than the books is Foundation on Apple+. That show took a great, if some times monotonous book series and made it great for TV. I like them both, but I prefer the TV version. Villeneuve's Dune and Dune 2 were good as well, although Dune 2 started going on it's own direction and I don't think that was a better direction. So even then books are story-wise better, masterful as those movies might be.

I get to some degree writing or videogames have to be altered a bit in order to make it work on a movie/ tv show medium. That is fine, but what isn’t is when the purposely alter the story in a large way to fit their agenda. Like the witcher

No, he's not based. He was lambasting fans for complaining about lore changes when RoP came out. Now he's changing his tune because RoP flopped.

every video essay on youtube on rings of power was more entertaining than the show

Reminds me of the movie "Misery"

GRRM doesn’t get off the naughty list until he actually finishes his dang series!!

I took a screen writing workshop a couple years ago and it really opened my eyes to why so many good ideas will never hit the light of day while so many trash ideas get made. The writing community is super small and insulated. Its an echo chamber where not being "on the team" means you will NEVER get past the MULTIPLE levels of gatekeepers and script writers that come before you EVER get close to a director or producer reading ur script. The writing community in Hollywood is almost entirely ran but the gay mafia & they will END YOUR CAREER if they think you are not behind EVERYTHING they support 100%. That workshop really turned me off writing once I realized its not really about what you write, but who you know and what you have to do to get them to back you.

The Witcher 3 trailer "Killing Monster" is almost 3 minutes long, but it's gigantically better than Netflix.

"RINALD DAL" 💀

I'd appreciate it if he could finish the books. Thanks.

Why is nobody talking about the fact that this seems like a safe way to criticise the TV adaptation of his own show? Like yes it applies to Rings of Power but my mind IMMEDIATELY shot to GoT season 7/8 which he is probably contractually obliged not to directly cirticise.

The irony is that GRRM bashed on Star Wars fans for calling out creators for doing the exact same thing, saying that they were just hating on it just to hate on it.

Been doing it to comics within comics for decades, sometimes they changed so much they had to rewrite the history several times just to please the latest writer who, "has an idea"

bro said Ronald Dahl 0:34

Wait a minute. Isn't that the same Georgie who also attack the fan no long ago?

That Gandalf clip always makes my spine feel like it's gonna cringe out of my back...

Funny thing is the Shogun series is different from the books

Dude allowed the Velaryons to be black in HOTD despite it being a massive plot hole

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

“I’m good”, said Sauron, goodly.

2:09 when I'm playing an RPG game and I want the good ending

Same guy couldn't understand how people can hate something they used to love. This is why. When new writers make stuff their own. Make it woke, shit on the lore, and obsolutely bastardizes the story. That is why people now hate Star Wars, Amazon LoTR, The last seasons of GoT etc.

He's finally saying what everyone else has been saying for a decade, huh?

"I'm good" was one of the many amazing lines from Rings of Power.

*"nah, I'm good."* That's hood writing. Oh wait......

Did he just call Roald Dahl "Ronald Dahl"? No i can't 😂

Is this the same guy that bemoaned how fans these days were always complaining instead of just consuming product and getting stoked for next product? How did he phrase it again? Oh yes "Anti-fans" rule social media and dance on the graves of movies that flop". Better be careful George. Your starting to sound like an anti-fan. Why not shut up and consume product?

"Somehow Gollum returned."