Get Items From the 4th Dimension! (4D Miner Devlog #2) 

I think this means you’re really discovering the full potential of digital space

Bro I don’t think Minecraft aimed to be ‘realistic’

​@@notsobreadd I'm pretty sure Good Luck meant, is that the design of minecraft is somewhat held back by its attempt to emulate reality, and lack of originality. there is a world with biomes, plants and creatures, etc. one of the few unique mobs is the shulker, almost everything else is clearly inspired by something else with little revision other than the imposed limitations of the game design.

@@eatabanana2258 So are you saying that minecraft is limited? Are you saying games like fortnite are quote on quote life like? Minecraft is original, and what about all the mods that people have made? Does that not count to how “original” the game is? What about all the other unique parts of the game that are not realistic like how most blocks don’t have gravity, what about the end and the nether which are two fictional dimensions. Minecraft never tried to emulate reality and it doesn’t emulate it at all. It’s not limited as there are tons of fan made mods which alter the code of the game. People have also made massive structures inside the game as well, which are all unique in design. What do you mean one of the “few unique”, there are tons here are a couple: Strider, Enderman, Shulkers, The Enderdragon, Piglins, The Wither, Ghasts and there’s more unique mobs. Minecraft has and always had unlimited possibilities, the game never tried to fabricate or emulate reality and hasn’t done that and there’s plenty of unique mobs in the game.

Btw the ice update has happened in other games as well such as minecraft. Though it probably is a good thing it was added

there is no blocks in some layers how would piston work?

@@Penguingot make a piston room

@@LineOfThy that sounds like a living nightmare

@@virutech32 oh ho ho

3x3x3x3*

Thank you

thx bruh

Thank you for the update

Thank you so much, however why isn't he posting on twitter?

Thx

That's actually pretty smart, I know building in 4d can be a headache sometimes

That would just make the building system the same as minecraft. If you can break and place blocks in every slice simultaneously, you get what is effectively a 3d build. Cool idea, I just think it would make the game less unique.

@@sexman9534 I don't think it make it less unique, you still have the option to choose if you want to fill all the slices or not, which make interesting buildings geometry, but you need at least 1 layer of full walls to build a safe house

@@sexman9534 the thing is, sometimes you need to compromise between uniqueness and convinience. Sure placing every block by hand may be cool for some. But i think most people would get annoyed rather quick if they have to do it every time. i think a solenoid placer like described satisfies both playertypes. those who want to place by hand can do that while others can use the placer for convenience. 4D miner is unique enough beeing 4D to be honest. but thats just my opinion.

@@sexman9534 The stack size is 4096. In 2d, 5 x 5 is 25. In 3d, 5 x 5 x 5 is 125. In 4d, 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 is 625. It would take *a lot* of time to build without more help.

A 4D wind storm would be really cool. There could be some sort of biome that has a constant wind that pushes you back and forth in the 4th direction.

@@zestiestzest the ice kinda does that

That would be awesome everyone please like this comment!

How about in the snow or sand biome with added blocks like quick sand that work similar to powdered snow in minecraft. And an Item like special Boots that have a 4d material on the bottom, that prevents the player from dying/getting stuck.

@@zestiestzest that would be super annoying imo

I like that idea

If this game will be playable in VR, then there would likely be no problem with 3d inventory and crafting. In VR, perhaps it would even feel more intuitive

@@Hlebuw3k I agree. Though you could also create an intuitive 3x3x3 crafting system by filling out three 2D slices of the recipe stacked onto each other. Kind of like layering the segments of a tiered cake or a cast mould. That said, part of the appeal of Minecraft's crafting was the ability to easily experiment with the system and develop an intuition for some of the recipes. 3D recipes would likely need to be limited in their complexity, and stick to some recognisable recipe patterns if the intent is for the player to actually fill them in manually.

@@creativebeetle maybe adding a recipy book like in minecraft.

@@ScorpioneOrzion yeah, but then what's the point of the crafting system? The recipe book already makes recipe shapes pretty much redundant

64=4^3, so I expected 4^4 for 4d, but ig 64^2 also works

@@equenos It's also 8^4

@@cyberneticsquid 4^4 is 256. Idk why developer went with 4096, but 4^4 is the 4d volume of a 4×4×4×4 cube, just like 4^3 is the 3d volume of a 4×4×4 cube

@@equenos Same, but I'm not exactly going to complain about more inventory lol

@@equenos the significance of 64 is that it is both a square number and a cube number. 256 wouldn't have that property but 4096 does. in addition to 8^4 it can be represented as 16^3 or 64^2.

He is still actively posting about updates on the discord! Multiplayer was just added. He is working on the video for it

nah thats pretty easy as it just be a bunch a hyper cube holes in the terrain with 90 degree turns and spawners and all that though he would have to add a structure generator to the game first (and hopefully its one thats more modular and modifiable then minecrafts Cx)

The 4d door sounds like it'd be a really cool mechanic

@@SokarenT4S And Minecraft's is only in 3d...

I hope the spawner design will be more creative than a cage with a spinning mob inside

I feel like the game is supposed to get that “otherworldly “ planet feel and as an alien p,anet that probably wouldnt fit that well unless 4d miner expands its lore which im sure they will do at somepoint but just not in that way

Haven't finished watching the video yet, but I find it interesting that it's basically the Minecraft's stack size to the power of two, which makes sense because this is one dimension higher. I love that detail!

4096 is 2^12, that's almost 2 bytes of blocks

@@voidwyrm6149 Ye, something like 3/2 bytes (One whole plus a half)

but remember you have like 4 times the distance to build and i was here mintally trying ot think of HOW many blocks you have to nuke in order to both fit and make a mega base of minecraft vanilla but in this game. im already seeing milions of blocks from excavation ALONE!

So if you don't want to join the patreon how do you get the update?

I like the solenoid collector, but tbh, solenoid ore and solenoid bars sound cringe to me. Calling it magnetic ore would be better in that case, but I think solenoid ore should be renamed to magnetite (a real ore of iron) or some other realistic thing or be fully fictional. Calling it solenoid ore means to me that it can only be used to make solenoids, which is pretty dumb. And solenoid bars should just be called solenoids, or iron bars, depending on what they more accurately represent.

Pretty smart solution

Plates will definitely be exploited for mob traps, imagine making a 3d pit covered with plates on the bottom, so every mob remains in this slice and can't escape. Making a clickable block is better I think

@@equenos the block wouldn’t have to activate for mobs, also if the block would exist in every 4d slice it wouldn’t work since the 4d mobs would always be standing on it.

@@ghostwatcher idk how much sense it'd make for it to exist in all slices of the 4d world, since that means it's basically taking up multiple blocks of space in that extra direction. kinda like a single block actually being 3(/4/however many idk) blocks tall in a 3d game. not completely unreasonable, mind you, but a bit odd i guess. i'm not opposed to the general idea of the block otherwise tho

@@mozarteanchaos well the crafting recipe should probably be kinda expensive. And for example tall grass in mc is also 2 blocks high something similar but in 4d wouldn’t be that weird imo.

Thanks, Satan.

Changing what slice you are looking in doesn’t make you move though, it just changes what you see. So changing your slice direction shouldn’t ever make you fall.

@@drdca8263 not exactly. You are only 3 dimensional, so you kind of move yourself through 3 dimensional slices of a 4 dimensional space. So you can move yourself into the slice with a hole.

Thankfully though it'll likely have visual indication by strange colors

@@Irithind I may have been unclear. Of course when moving perpendicular to a particular slice, one changes what slice one is in. But when simply moving the mouse and mouse wheel, this should only change what slice you are viewing, and should have no impact on collisions. Unless I guess if the player model is only 3D and rotates in the 4D space when looking around? But I don’t think that’s what this game does, is it? I could be wrong there.

I believe members of his discord composed it

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@@KingRidley dude

​@@SOTP. Dude*

@@sandpaperunderthetable6708 *dady

@@tup4443 *daddy

afaik you can do that with those keys

-3D- Minecraft

It would be very interesting if to catch it you needed to somehow set up a trap in another slice of the world

@@randomhandle111 ???

@@mutantshrimp168 ah crap i replied to the wrong comment

@@randomhandle111 XD I suppose so

Nice idea! A 4D MIDI map would be perhaps more listenable…

8D MUSIC

ikr

he's shifted too much into the 4th dimension and can't get to his 3 dimensional PC 🥲

seriously speaking, there's updates in discord, I saw someone share them here in the comments but couldn't copy bc I'm on phone :( but you can find them in either of the two places

@@emanuelneagu14 k thanks dude ill make sure to check them

you can do this by using the compass and scrolling until you align it properly. Also, dying sends you to the original slice

There's hotkeys to rotate to cardinal directions

you can already do that

@@LineOfThy suicide does it for you

​@@dbrikashabukshan8673 ah yes, the best way to look forwards, *dying*

LOL

No posts on his Twitter for 8 month, unfortunately, i think he's gone

​@@L0g0Z0g0 not gone! Since August 31st of 2022 there has been (copied from discord): - Improved chunk loading - Improved mesh generation to fix some ugly lighting artifacts - Fixed some shader issues - The fix (hopefully) resolves an issue with some Intel GPUs - Added a **post-processing shader**! - Anyone can modify this shader to create cool effects - Fixed a physics issue that occasionally made the game freeze - Chests no longer behave like trash cans (the items used to get deleted) - Fixed a chunk-loading bug that caused the game to crash - Fixed several issues with the lava at the bottom of the world - You can no longer mine it or place on it - Your screen will be covered by a lava texture when you fall out of the world - Items thrown into the lava/void will now be deleted (they used to just fall forever) - Spiders now only drop one hypersilk - Butterflies are much less common, but they have a much larger hitbox - Fixed the visuals when your head gets stuck/clips inside of a block - Removed the crash reporter because it was cringe - Completely overhauled the biome system! - Biomes now generate based on temperature and moisture, which makes their placement much more natural - Biomes are all configured in the biomeInfo.json file, which anyone can modify to create their own custom biomes! - New world generation settings! - Biome size - Terrain amplification - Disable cave generation (makes terrain generate much faster) - Added the *snowy taiga biome*! - Introduces a new block and tree type! - Strafing through chunk borders is now fixed - Added a new way of looking around in 4D! - You can look in 4D without scrolling by holding the middle mouse button or the M key while moving the mouse - Vertical mouse movement rotates along the ZW plane (same as scrolling) - Horizontal mouse movement rotates along the XW plane, which is a totally new way to look around in 4D Miner! - Major bug fix that stops unnecessary chunks from loading - Sometimes dozens of extra chunks would load that weren't supposed to - The fix considerably improves performance - This bug has been driving be insane since before I even announced 4DM, so I'm really happy to have finally fixed it! - Flat worlds will now generate with chests full of every block/item at spawn - The world lighting now becomes dark at night (I know, really spooky) - Glowing objects like flowers and jack o'lanterns appear brighter at night as a result! - Added *pumpkins* and *jack o'lanterns*! 🎃 - Pumpkins can be found in the green biome - Jack o'lanterns can be crafted with a pumpkin and a red flower - Sun and moon have been completely remodeled and retextured - They now have proper 3D textures, and they fit the style of the game better - Added a new song, *The Quantum Winter* by Orionjustmelted! - Various bug fixes and other minor changes - Fixed an annoying lighting artifact at chunk borders, which was most noticeable in flat worlds From December 2022- late march 2023, work on myltiplayer. Functional at announcement but still being tested - 3d Character skins (they have to be 3d so you can see inside them)

@@ultraprincesskenny6790 thanks, i already found about multiplayer in another comment although thought that was it, i know it's a pain to do, I struggled with it for like half a week for my Minecraft clone(accounting code reuse from previous pain), even perlin noise took just a few hours, although multiplayer due to game not being on steam and have potentially shared multiplayer world and due to free addon (Photon) it's just up to 20 players at a time in the whole game

Dolor means pain in latin so maybe dolorium?

Dolor is pain in spanish too!

@@tacticabbage Languages from the same Linguistical Tree

@@omen4s976 Dolorium sounds perfect, to be honest.

Update from dev from discord, "Unfortunately, the video on 4D Miner multiplayer is going to take longer to make than I expected. It turns out I have to move right now, which means I don't currently have enough time to give the video my full attention. I am very glad that I was able to release multiplayer on Patreon before this happened, and I will do whatever I can to make sure 4d4t is running smoothly throughout this whole process. I will probably still have enough time to release a few minor updates to the game (mostly bug fixes), and I will try to work on the video whenever I can. I want to be more up front with all of you when it comes to development stuff, and I really appreciate all of you support. Thank you all for your patience."

If you're talking about mipmapping, it's not helping performance much with 16x16 textures 😅 (the textures would be cached anyway). And it's amazingly easy to enable in OpenGL :)

There will be a new video in June focusing on multiplayer.

true lmao

​@@ultraprincesskenny6790anddd when was june????

@@acefromwithin2079 whenever he says June is

It's already in the game, you can press ctrl+xw, ctrl+xz, or ctrl+zw to line yourself up with any of those axis, which makes the blocks look like 3d

@@enoua5222 when a reply has more likes then the comment itself lol

@@rtxagent6303 f for me 💀

it seems cool at first but implementing it is hard especially when water can flow 'into' the 4th dimension and how that would be represented and also the renderer would need another change to support simi transparency and all the headaches that entails also pleas dont call it hyper water lets just call it water as the more hyper-this and hyper-that things become the more tiresome it becoms to say and also just is kinda boring

bro has voices in his walls

i disagree

Ok I respect your opinion but I just thought it would be more balanced to make other tools still worth obtaining

That’s actually a good idea

Or it could make deadly ore explode which would make it risky and would make the name "deadly" make sense.

@@catabc-rd8dy that idea is a great idea

5d

You and your friend will be prob lose each other

@@lavrasource or they might push your brain out :D

@@lavrasource 4D glasses could make it so you can see each other in each slice of the world!

He said at the end of the video that he was implementing multiplayer next video

Oh i have'nt watched the end of the video 😄 Thanks

I think he gave up on the game (and probably yt)

June