Sol: Ky, all my life I've felt like a corrupted force of utter destruction. Like it was my destiny to kill all things. Gears are meant to die. I've seen you fight like you mean it. Like a man possessed. I've seen you show no mercy or regard at all to countless gears, and yet here I stand. So please, for my sake, come at me with everything. Fight me like you mean it. Ky: lol Sol, that's silly. I don't wanna kill you. Sol: YOUR WIFE'S UGLY Ky: *SOOOOOOL!*
@@thechosenfundead6626 i mean, considering how much of a shitty father figure he was to Sin, i don't think it would be that hard to insult his own daughter
Ky : _"DAFUQ YOU THINKING ROASTING YOUR DAUGHTER OF ALL PEOPLE!?!?"_ Sol : _"SO WHAT, ARE YOU BEING A PUSSY ASS NOT DEFENDING YOUR WIFE!?!?"_ Ky : *_"SOL, YOU'RE A $HITTY FATHER!!!!"_*
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Really shows how hung up Sol is about the fact that being a Gear makes him “a monster”. He just doesn’t get that people like Ky, despite knowing that objectively Sol is a Gear, still see him as a person despite that.
There are also 0 side effects in being a Gear, OP, immortal and Sol has developed a way to maintain his human form indefinetely, i don't get what changed for him at the end of Strive when he became human, he lives just as he did before but he just isn't as strong anymore and will grow old.
@@SSJavenger Apparently the Flame of Corruption in him would just make him more Gear-like as time went on, eventually driving him mad. Also something about Sol hearing a voice in his head telling him to destroy everything or something. No idea where that's from. I started with Strive.
@@SSJavenger The way I've come to understand it, the Flames of Corruption were initially implanted to allow Sol to survive the process of becoming a Gear. Asuka (That Man) wasted no quarter in ensuring the survival of his two friends so he gave both of them immortal artifacts to guarantee survival. Post-Strive Sol is still very much a Gear albeit his development potential has decreased a lot. The only way he'll advance is by taking things seriously and actively inventing newer and more suitable equipment. He's more than qualified if the original Outrage is anything.
I think what makes this such a great moment is that Sol's actions are partially fueled by a deep self-loathing that he never managed to get over. He's thought himself a monster ever since he became a gear. He feels that if back then, Ky actually had figured out the truth and came to kill him for it, it would've been the ending he "deserved." It's a common sentiment amongst depressed people- an intense feeling of guilt at your very existence, and anxiety over when the facade will drop and other people will see you for the shitty person your believe yourself to be. By not fighting him 'for real' Ky essentially refused to reflect that anxiety back at Sol, knowingly or not- a kindness Sol feels he doesn't deserve. So the anxiety bubbles up and he lashes out, insulting people he cares about just to get a reaction that justifies his fucked up self-image. But after all that, Ky still shows him mercy. Sol is forgiven- For insulting Ky's wife, yes, but he knows he didn't mean that. He is forgiven for being a gear. He finally gets Ky to meet him on his own terms and is humbled, and then Ky helps him back to his feet.
5:05 That entire sequence is great. Sol tries to pull away for some breathing room, Ky pins his foot to keep him in place, breaks Sol's fucking weapon with an open-hand slap, then breaks the hilt of his OWN weapon on Sol's face, pocket-sands him with the fragments, THEN lets him back off - just so he can charge up the finale.
I know this is really late but I think Sol was trying to counterattack. He was like "Shit he's got me, I need to do something" and tries to hit Ky. But Ky either saw it coming or reacted fast and parried with his hand, which just so happened to fuck with the Junkyard Dog's mechanisms and it broke apart.
For Ky to fight monsters, he had to become one. A brutal, unfeeling killing machine. It's why he sandbags Sol because despite Sol being a gear, Ky doesn't see a monster.
You can also see at around 2:12 to 2:19 that Ky clearly didn't like what he had to become and I figure, he'd like to leave that version of himself in the past.
real talk though holy SHIT what kind of giga-chad move is "smash the hilt of your sword to pieces against your opponents face and then GRAB the fragments and pocket-sand their sorry ass"
4:00 - 4:15 This is probably my favorite dialogue in the scene. It’s a preemptive stroke against every comment that starts with “If Sol had just….” or some variant thereof, and proceeds to lay out a laundry list of excuses. No one is questioning who’s stronger; the answer is undoubtedly Sol, by a large margin. The point is that power isn’t everything when skill, deceit ,and ruthlessness can make up the difference. It’s funny that Order Ky’s mentality is more akin to a mercenary’s than a stereotypical “holy” knight’s: “Forget honor, mercy, or fairness. Nothing’s off the table when your life’s on the line.”
I love how steadily throughout the series Ky, even if he might not ever match Sol in raw power, has been learning his movements and keeping up with him. Far from the days where Sol would just consider him a nothing, Ky has become both a true friend and rival, as much as Sol hates it.
Something I just realized and a lot of people dont. Ky is handicapped in this fight. He is using Eclair not Thunderseal. Eclair is a powerful sword and well suited to Ky but its not on the same level as Thunderseal meaning going against Junkyard Dog, which is Fireseal and I think 2 other pieces of the set, its way underpowered. And Sol got his teeth kicked in. It may not always turn out this way in their fights but it goes to show just how scarily powerful Ky is.
Junkyard dog mkiii is a combination of 3 of the holy relics, and likely Bridget's yo yo. Ky smashes it all to pieces which in my head is why Junkyard dog looks so different in Strive. Because Ky is fucking scary
@@TheEmperorHyperion Spoilers Sol is the one to defeat I-no using the full power of the "Outrage" which he previously couldn't handle, and not even ky was able to defeat Ino with the thunderseal and dragon install. My personal opinoin is that Sol is stronger in terms of raw power, Ky is still the more skilled fighter, hence ky's victory here. Though it is perhaps best that its left ambiguous as to who is truly stronger.
@@xx_toasterreturns_xx1166 -Spoilers- You're basically on the money here, as Ky states in this vid, the dirty tactics and lack of honor are all standard Holy Order techniques made for war, where the only thing that matters is killing, and Ky just happens to be exceptionally skilled on top of that. Sol's indefinitely more powerful, especially with Dragon Install, but as we see in Strive when he's affected by the anti-Gear tech the white house security is using, he's forced to run from problems because he's a sloppy and undisciplined fighter who's used his neigh-invulnerability to just power through attacks up to this point, which Nagoriyuki points out in their first encounter. He manages to maintain Outrage and beat I-no as a regular human only by way of a massive power-supply and the effort of two of the other arguably strongest characters in the world, one of which being Ky himself (who I believe is openly stated to be the strongest person in the cast after Sol loses the Flame of Corruption but I may be misremembering), getting her to expose her weakness for just a second.
@@twhycraig9465 Blazblue was shit compared to Guilty Gear. Not nearly as many defensive options and slower combat. Which is why we now have blazblue cross tag battle to improve the game cause it just wasn't cutting it. Blazblues story was lacking and a ripoff guilty gear sacred weapons story. Hust leave this to the father GG
i love what ky says about 'real fights', how unfairness and deceit are the way to go. he's absolutely right, in a real 1v1 fight to the death, no one gives a shit about 'fighting fair'. it's kill, or be killed; as simple as that. and I REALLY love that it's a 'goody two shoes' character that says it: far too often in fiction those kinds of characters have some nonsensical code of 'battlefield honor' which does nothing to make them more moral, and just acts as a handicap.
And I also love how he's specifically saying that that kind of fighting is wrong. He's an honorable warrior at heart but he's not deaf to the true nature of violence, and he struggles with it like a real person would.
@@Angel-bz5jm i didn't get that at all. and why would a 'real person' struggle with it? if you're fighting to the death, what's wrong with doing whatever it takes to win? this specific kind of 'honor' never made any sense to me. it just seems stupid to be honest. this isn't honor, it's simply self-sabotage
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 that's quite a philosophical question so I hope your ready for a deep answer. Sure fighting just to win and/or to survive is great and all but eventually you need to ask yourself "why do I actually want that?" "What does dose winning actually get me in the grand scheme of things?" "What I'm I doing with my life that is worth the effort of preserving it?" "If my victory doesn't mean anything then why fight at all?" And so people find things worth fighting for. A loved one to protect, a dream to see to fruition, or an ideal to uphold. And in these situations there may be things must come before winning in order to stay true to that goal. Take Batman for instance. Batmans job would be a lot easier if he decided to just murder everybody who croses him. No more villains breaking out of jail, no more waisting effort to save people, and so on. But that's not why Batman fights. (or not in the comics at least.) Batman's goal is to protect life in all it's forms, because his world was shattered by a random act of violence and death, and he wants to make sure that nobody every has to feel that way again. He fights crime in service of that goal, and he isn't afraid to get a little rough with people, but if he where to stoop to the level of killing even if he wins the battle he would lose his personal war. That's why the concept of battlefield honor exists. Sometimes preserving the values you hold is more important than doing whatever is takes to win. In Ky's case he believes in a duel as a way to compare mastery of ones body and mind. Violence is not a solution to him but an art and a way to communicate (befitting of a wise king) Stooping to dishonorable tactics would stop the fight from being about that and turn it into a scramble for meaningless death. That is why he tells Sol that the techniques he used on the battlefield aren't made for a dual. That simply isn't what fighting means to him. And he looks back apon the days when all he cared about was killing with distain. Hope that made sense lol. Have a nice day :)
@@Angel-bz5jm you're conflating several things here: not killing your enemies is very different to being unwilling to use 'dirty tactics'. i'm talking about a fight to the *death* here, where one side *has* to die, which is not what batman's fights are. also, batman has no compunction against using surprise attacks, unorthodox avenues of attack, or other things that would be considered 'dirty', he still does whatever it takes to win, it's just that to him killing the opponent would actually be losing. and just like batman's fights aren't fights to the death, so are formal duesl not necessarily to the death (and even if they are, you can't use surprise tactics in them, so they're still not really 'true' fights), and this is what ky is referring to: non-lethal duels, he doesn't want to kill his dueling opponent, so he limits himself. that's it, nothing to with honor; and it's really not such a weird concept: we have martial arts competitions irl with rules and restrictions that no sane person would ever follow in a real fight to the death. 'And he looks back apon the days when all he cared about was killing with distain' again, where are you getting that from? that's not what i understood at all. he obviously didn't like his time in the war, as all war is hell, but i don't think that he has any remorse about the way that he acted. about what you said in your 7th paragraph, i completely disagree, especially with 'Violence is not a solution to him but an art and a way to communicate (befitting of a wise king)'. that's just wrong: firstly viewing violence as an art isn't 'befitting of a wise king', it's just straight up disgusting; secondly, ky doesn't view *violence* as an art, he views swordsmanship as an art, and while the difference may seem artificial, it's very real and very strong. and of course, i also disagree with 'Stooping to dishonorable tactics', but i've already explained that. and btw, fyi: 'honor of the battlefield' is pretty much a purely fictional concept and no military commander or person in an actual fight to the *death* has ever subscribed to that idea. the only example in real life that comes close is that in europe the church tried to forbid the use of crossbows on the battlefield because they thought it was 'unfair' that a dude with only 1 day of training could kill a knight that has been training since childhood, and even that didn't last for long. i'm sorry for the disorganized form of my reply, i hope that it's still readable enough.
sol and kys deisgns counter each other in every possible way, even to the point sol uses his sword pointing backwards with his left hand whislt ky uses his sword pointing forward with his right hand, such a strange detail but shows a decent amount of consideration into making the characters parallel each other
Ky vs Sol is like a pro player using a bottom tier character vs a competent guy using a broken character. Like Ceekos using Mariah vs a Kakyoin who knows his BNBs
pov: you're an ordinary civilian walking on a sunny day and you suddenly see the king of your kingdom beating up the immortal hero who just saved the world you went home and told everybody but nobody believed any of it
You can actually hear the fear and a bit of choking up in Sol's voice as he told Ky about the Crucades. It's like just remembering it is putting that fear back in his mind.
Sol and and Ky are not longer enemies, they re friendly rival at best, thats why Sol held back, thats why Ky fought honorably, This is what character development looks like, this is not plot armor
Yes, that's why Ky's being honorable and holds back as well when he's fighting with Sol, he want to enjoy the fun in fighting with his fellow formidable rival, like Sol. He didn't thought about Sol being his enemy in the first place. Because Ky's true face is a monster and he also very dirty, brutality when he fights his enemies in war. He'll not gives his opponents a chance to be ready or forming a stance and drawing swords against him.
I never understood the complaining people do about the fact Ky Defeated Sol in this duel when the entire conversation sets up why he was able to. He went before sol said go, fought dirty, and without any real honor. Even when not moving to kill, just the fact he treated it like a fight and not a duel showed the very real difference in their technical skill. Despite Sol's Gear nature. Let alone the fact the Ky has shown very clearly in the story that he is taking on Gear like qualities. Either through something having been done to him, or through his close contact with Dizzy and *cough* potential ingestion of gear cells/dna ( He likes to please his woman what can you say. ). The Idea of Gear strength with Ky's killer's instincts would be rightly terrifying to even someone like Sol.
@@beefylovelord7385 basically, when ky fights, he *FIGHTS* . He plays for keeps, as Edward Elric said; "there's no such thing as 'dirty' in a fight." When he duels, he keeps things fair. Otherwise, he's actually always going for the KILL, no flowery form, preparation, honor, just make sure his foe is down and out. When he wants to "fight" , he going for the win, and gives not a damn to "fairness".
Imagine just being a random bystander in that park and then suddenly all hell breaks loose when these two dudes (one of them being the King) draw swords and start blowing shit up while fighting each other, haha! You'd be scared shitless! Whatever happened to civil unrest, huh? They should both be charged with disturbing the peace, in my opinion.
You’re taking a casual stroll in the park, daily walk. You admire the lush trees and textured grass. Tranquillity. You turn your head, and you see your king call lightning from above to literally smite some random person with a sword, blowing a crater into the ground
There is a keen difference between killing something a fighting something. Fighting = I’m going to beat you Killing= I’m going to do whatever I have to in order to make you stop living And Ky just showed Sol
Jouji Nakata has that effect. Given Sol's character, though, he fits it in a different way -- rough around the edges, showing his wisdom through ACTION, that sort of stuff.
Erh... Sol Badguy is not voiced by Jouji Nakata (aka Alucard/Bias-sama), he is voiced by Guilty Hear creator, composer and designer Daisuke Ishiwatari.
Ky seems to have this sad look on his face when Sol calls himself a monster but doesn’t try to interject or deny it (before punching his lights out for calling his wife one). I wonder whether he knows it’s futile to convince Sol otherwise. Like that combined with him guessing Sol’s motivation at the end, and Sol knowing how to piss Ky off to the point of no return, you can tell how well those two genuinely know each other
Watching this made me think that Sol's biggest and most glaring weakness, he held back way too much. He stubbornly refuses to tap any of his gear powers fully aware the danger he's putting himself into. Sol can easily enter to a dragon install before the battle knowing Ky is going all out. But he didn't. And guess what? Ky kicked his ass as expected.
Ignoring the consequences of the Backyard and strain on Sol's body for using DI (Or DI 2nd), he would've been the wiser if he already had his DI ready to unleash the moment he talked about Dizzy. Sol knew Ky was going to be strong when fighting seriously, and it was a mistake on his part to even think of a possibility to DI when the fight starts. He said it himself, after all. "No wasted movements, no hesitation. No chivalry or honor." Ky took advantage of that thinking, attacking Sol with his cold blooded killing instinct before the former had the chance to move, effectively shutting down any means of counter. True, Sol would wipe the floor with Ky in DI, but that would be the case if the latter gave him the chance to, which he didn't. That, or Ky was just angry that his waifu was called a 'monster'.
I wouldn't say Sol would wipe the floor with him using DI. As he mentioned, Ky still didn't go all out here, and remember that he also has Gear cells he can activate now, which we can tell wasn't done because his eye didn't go red. It would be an interesting fight to see them both actually try.
@@jess4you13 No. That would be Sol. Ky is as human as it gets. Okay, I'm lying. He's somehow Half-Gear but hasn't actually used said Gear powers that should've come along with it. Tl;dr: No, he doesn't have a transformation. The dude's just an ex-killing machine that every Gear and their mother should be afraid of. Think Minamoto-no-Yorimitsu, but the Oni are Gears.
"I want a real Fight!" Ky steps behind him "No... Not that kind of real Fight... Only when i say go" Pretty dense for a PhD. GG really has some great character moments. You can really Tell that these characters mean a lot to the people who make the Game.
Seeing that model of ky during the flashback makes me really want to see that as a playable costume in xrd or strive, wouldn't be that different from xrd ky but the little details count! that and seeing him use the thunderseal in gameplay would've been a nostalgia hit like no other.
@@orein1880 I thought he smashed the pommel into his cheek, then used those broken fragments to blind Sol At 5:11 you can clearly see a blue portion at the top, which is gone in 5:17
Looking back at 5:07 All this time I thought Ky broke both weapons at the same time but no man was using his hands to break sol’s weapon. WHT I see what sol means with ky being the monster
Its more than that if you look closely Ky is trailing the lighting across the gap between the casing of the Junkyard Dog causing the casing to explode off Ky had complete control of the fight from the begining
What this shows is that Sol would be an ultimate monster if he actually had combat training, and a lot of the area would be hella destroyed if ky and sol were allowed to go all out truly, seeing as ky wrecked a lot of the area in just one attack.
5:07 "It was at that moment he knew... he fucked u-" 5:09 "It was at THAT moment he knew-" 5:12 "It was at THAT MOMENT-" 5:21 "FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK"
How come nigga's in Guilty Gear be holding back when it comes to fighting? Like, literally all the time? I know some characters have the power to blow up at least half a continent, but I hate when characters loss only because they didn't "go all out".
Serious Mode Sol blows up mountains, if Ky can keep up with Sol that's getting into mountain killer territory as well. If two dudes capable of blowing up mountains start duking it out for reals an entire country is hosed.
GearheadPrime Serious Sol *only* destroying Mountains is seriously downplaying it, trust me. Considering that Slayer considers all-out Sol a worthy adversary lol. Edit: Basically, RIP Earth and more.
Honestly, imagine a being who at this point couldn't be considered human, wielding a weapon forged from 2-3 parts of the strongest weapon ever made and is considered one of the strongest beings to ever exist, referring to you as "Something."
I was wondering for a while why Sol's sword looked different again in the teaser for Guilty Gear 2020. After seeing this again (I haven't played Rev2 in a while, okay?), I remember now. Damn, the difference between GG1!Ky and Xrd!Ky is like night and day. He's really come a long way.
When exactly did this happen if I may ask btw? I only have Revelator, not Rev 2, but I am pretty sure the story modes of both games simply end with Sol and That Man facing each other or something like that. So I have no clue where the fight in this video fits
@@DestinySpider This clip is from After Story A, only in REV 2. It takes place shortly after the end of the main story of Revelator, but obviously before that big fight Sol and That Man are planning to have with one another.
To find out after all this time I thought Sol was sandbagging and holding back like Ky did, shocked me but it makes sense after hearing that Fredrick was a scientist thrust into powers he did not want.
Towns People : Why is the King walking around without guards? *few Moments later* Town Guard : See that Pillar of light? That was him. Towns People : Point taken.. uhh should you investigate? Town Guard : Hell no, that was Sol Badguy walking with him. Im not walking into that..
Ky has no chance against a full powered dragon sol...i mean for god sake he stopped an energy beam that can kill the strongest gear with his bare hands after he transformed
Watching this I think.. Sol is trying to learn how to be brave like a human. Ky is trying to tell Sol that he's not able to be the person Sol remembers him being.
Its nice to see that given the situation Ky can beat Sol easily to a certain extend, he's even being handicap as many people have said not using thunderseal, showing just how Sol is still more of a scientist with extremely huge power potential fighting with instinct most of the time, vs Ky with lesser power but much higher combat skill and training than Sol.
