Rory got what she deserved. She was coddled, spoiled, and made to believe she was special; she let those things go to her head. It's the whole "peaking in highschool" cliche: tell a kid they're amazing, special, and their own little snowflake their whole life and they'll literally amount to nothing afterwards. What Rory got, was a healthy dose of reality and nothing less than she deserved.
I agree! She was a very great role model until she left dean for Jess and then that’s when I was like what?? My heart broke because I thought she’d be better than that the rest from there was a whole downfall. She became super entitled and stubborn. Even her choosing Yale in the end was an even bigger mindfuck!
To be fair, the reboot was a very watered down version of the end of the original series which started to suck. The Netflix series was all vaneer. And "Gillie" never grew up because her mom and grandmother kept telling her how perfect and smart she was. Even as a former fan of the original series, I found this tedious.
Yes! I ended up hating Rory because she started acting like a nasty person, and in the revival she was still being that. Yet every one raves about her for some reason.
i used to really like the show as well but now that I am older than when i first watched it it was rather infuriating. lorelai just got on my nerves constantly with her babbling on about some nonesense while being the most immature woman ever. then we have rory, who never really faced an obstacle in her life (or did she? i honestly cannot remember) and has always been told that she was basically a semi god; and she is the most insufferable selfish idiot ever. she cheats on almost all of her boyfriends and doesnt care when she hurts someone else. after all, she is perfect ,right ...
Ilka .Waffy there's lots of things I don't like about rory but I don't remember Sheila cheating any boyfriend (besides the one from the reebot). Liking someone while with someelse is not right, but it's not cheating. And she beeing with Dean but liking Jess and not admiting this, for me, *was* the show showing that no, Rory is a good kid and all but no, she is *not* perfect. I didn't like her personality in the reboot but I did like that they showed that she was struggling with work, that even though she was all "perfect and all" she didn't end up having a perfect like full of perfect success, like so manter shows do.
@@itsGINA11 Oh yeah, you are right, I forgot about that, that was bad. But I think that was one of the show's attempt to show that she wasn't all that good, that perfect. I liked the fact that when Lorelai found out she imediatly was totally against what Rory did. PS: sorry for any mistake with my english
The first episode of the last season. That way you don't really get any closure, but you are dropped into a fully developed world and have to make sense of it.
Rory is a horrible person. Lorelai finally gets her shit together. Emily is the true star of the show. Kirk is insane. Logan gets way too much screen time. Jess doesn't get enough screen time. Marty is nowhere to be seen. Paris is a goddess. That's all you need to know.
Rory only deserved logan because they both a horrible person.. not dean not even jess.. dean is lucky ..getting married..have kids..live a happy life..for jess to hv his whole life still pining for rory..is just sad..he deserve someone better..
@@jennebaram9881 Well she was literally a child when she had Rory. Loralei was mature where it mostly counted, which was getting a job and working her way up to be pretty successful, she got an education, and gave Rory everything she possibly could.
The show was about a teen mom who left her rich lifestyle and made it on her own, her daughter was very bright and got accepted into prep school but she couldn’t afford it because at the time she only ran an INN she didn’t own it, so she has to go back to the very people she left to ask for their help financially and they agree as long as she has dinner at their house every Friday night and they explore their entire family dynamic, why Lorelai left, and Rory’s journey and coming of age story and navigating different relationships. They also live in Connecticut not Minnesota. Rory does become a douchebag.
From what I read up, the actual series is better than the revival, as the revival is being met with mixed to negative responses from critics to fans. It's like the Cursed Child of Gilmore Girls if that's an analogy you can get.
Guypersonmanthing3 yes the actual show is so much better. There were a few moments like the new song from the musical, the wedding, Lorelei telling her mom about the happy moment with her dad, and emilys job. Besides that the revival made me angry as a fan. Jess deserved better, Rory's boyfriend deserved better, and the two main characters seems unrecognizable.
Gilmore Girls, the original series, was great. The reboot was was a nostalgia fest without the charm or hilarity of the original. It was for nostalgia and to let us know where they went. I'll be happy to watch the original again, trying to forget the reboot.
Same here... I am watching it with my "twin sis" for the second time... we've watched the entire 7 season run FOUR TIMES.... and this second reunion series deal is likely the LAST... it's just not very good by comparison... even with SOME good things- Emily and Lorelai FINALLY getting some maturity and peace between them... Rory FINALLY getting some life direction... Luke and Lorelai FINALLY getting married (shoulda ended the orig series with THAT imho).
@@NeverlandSystemPixie It really feels like the revival was supposed to be the plot of season 8, set right after Rory graduates from Yale. But it's been like 9 years and all the characters are still pretty much where we left them. Rory floundering after college, thrown off by not finding immediate success and needing some time to figure out her life would be fairly relatable in her twenties. In her thirties, it's just sad.
@@Botandarun Yeah, if it had been RIGHT after, or even a year later... But being sooooo long after, it just felt weird. That "final four words" thing totally lacked the punch it COULD have had... I mean Rory is TWICE the age her mom was when she had her. Had she been in her early 20's... it would have been more similar and had more punch. Plus, she just was an AWFUL PERSON in that miniseries. "Forgetting" the doting boyfriend over and over?! Being "the other woman" in an affair?! STILL being the clueless shiftless little girl mode so many years AFTER college?! IDK... it just didn't fit for so many reasons.
Sadly, I agree. My mom, sisters and I used to love watching it. With the Netflix series, I watched it with a whole new friend group who had each grown up watching it. My mom and sisters watch it as well. We. All. Hated it.
It's sad, but it really is how most guys like him are treated. I mean, you have to see it from a girl's angle. Would YOU, as guys, enjoy being around somebody, as a friend, who only fidgets uncomfortably and talks about how great you are all the time and constantly has a nervous look on his face? I mean, maybe for a while, as a novelty, but it'd get old real quick.
I'm a guy and I was a HUGE fan of the show when it was in its early years. In the later years it just became stupid. Sounds like the revival just carried on the stupidity of the later years. But here's the basic premise of the show (or at least what it was, originally): Lorelai was a rebellious teen who got pregnant at 17 and ran away from home. She had the baby (Rory, who you thought was her sister) and made a life for herself as a housekeeper in the bed and breakfast. Her parents are super-wealthy, but they want to control her, and they continually criticize her. So she doesn't have anything to do with them, instead choosing a humble life with independence. When the show opens in season 1, Rory, who's super smart and ambitious, is entering high school, and Lorelai wants her to go to a prestigious prep school to help her get into Harvard, which is Rory's dream. But that requires money. So she makes a deal with the devil -- uh, her mom: they'll pay for Rory's tuition if she agrees to have dinner with them every Friday night, along with Rory. This creates a lot of tension, as her relationship with her parents sucks, though they have a great relationship with her daughter. Oh, and she worked her way up to managing the bed and breakfast that she started out as a maid in, as a teenager. So that's the premise of the show. It was actually really great, with very very real character situations, and real character development and emotions, along with some very, very funny humor. The writing was actually brilliant the first few seasons, and it was really great television. After the first few seasons, though, it just sort of became an empty shell of going through the motions of the same types of devices, but without the real depth and character development and sharp humor. It became pretty unwatchable towards the end. So, again, sounds like the revival is just following the form of the show, without the real substance that made it great. People love the characters, and I think the popularity of the show is largely due to people being able to see their favorite characters again, and forgetting about how bad the show is compared to how it was, which made them love it in the first place.
Huh. I never watched the original series and the review made me even less interested. But this actually sounds kind of interesting. Maybe I'll check it out.
Great, all that just to be thrown out the window so that not one single new watcher would know any of this. And it really doesn't matter anyways, as none of that info translated into actual plot points for the fucking show, which defeats the whole god damn purpose of a god damn show.
marylizabetha she's been like that forever (remember how she treated Dean?) they just showed what happens when you act like that for 10 years without your rich family to coddle you and fall back on. Rory is kinda jerky
It's like you forgot how she ignored Dean's insecurities and act like his upbringing was nonsense. Kept on talking with Jess despite Dean's insecurities and knew he was stealing his girl.
The reason Lorelai was firing those chefs was not because the one guy moved the coffee maker, it was because nobody could compare to Sookie in all the different ways she wanted them to. There's a lot of stuff that just doesn't make any sense in the revival if you don't have the context of the full series before that.
Why would she have a problem with it? It's completely normal for people in couples to differ in what each other likes. To be honest, if she did have a problem with this video, then I would say that she would be a bit immature. The only connection between this video and austinmcconnell's fiancee is that she was watching it and that is how he decided to watch the episode. If, in my relationship, my girlfriend wanted to make a video on one of my favourite shows, e.g. Sherlock, about why she doesn't like it, she can go for it and I will even help point out faults that I have found with the show. Why should I take offence?
6:44 Okay what? She's not upset about money at all, she's literally only mourning her dead husband which is a perfectly natural, acceptable thing to do . . .
@@hwlsgrl Yeah but it is explained in the episode that the husband died, so that was obviously what she was sad about. I agree that the Netflix show wasn't as good as the original show, even though it already went downhill in the last few seasons, but that point didn't make a lot of sense.
As a diehard Gilmore Girls fan, I can tell you that the Netflix special does a horrible job of representing the characters from the 7 season show. They were deeply developed characters and all of the extra dialogue often serves to deepen the audience's connection to the town and to the world of the show. They really dropped the ball here.
This doesn't sound like a guy who "just saw this episode", this sounds like a bitter fan of the show that really hates what they've done to it. Gilly Gillmore? Nice.
A lot of the things you had problems with were established an explained in the series. Emily is horrible to her wait staff, which is why she can never find good help. This was a running gag all through the show and so it got a nod in the revival. If you're awful to people you're going to have a hard time finding people that want to work for you. Makes sense to me. The pointless "can't get a cell phone signal" bit was intended to take us on a tour of stars hollow, showing us all the old spots and invoking the nostalgia of remembering what happened there.The revival was intended to be a love letter to fans, and if you didn't watch the show prior it's simply not going to be as enjoyable for you. However I'm glad you watched it for your significant other, because a lot of guys would sneer at that thought and refuse to watch something girly. You made a few fair points but the revival was not written to bring in new people.... but rather as a farewell wave to the established following.
THIS. Currently rewatching the show with my boyfriend, we’re up to season 7 (the worst of the original in my opinion, which makes sense cause it’s a different writer)
@@cameronfield4617 No, that was a total messed up thing that they made up. Although she had some bad moments, over all she was a good person/girlfriend/friend and, actually, this reunion thing kind of fucked some characters up just cause Amy Palladino (the writer) wanted to end the series with a twist meant to be delivered in the original series several years ago (but couldn't cause she wasn't writing the script at the time the show ended). That's why some characters got their evolution thrown in the trash, such as Logan, or got their personalities flipped so they could fit the damn plot that they wanted. FUCK, THEY MADE ME GET ANGRY AT ONE OF MY FAVORITE SHOWS
Same! However, I don't think it's a comedy and you're supposed to laugh at loud with the dialogues. I think what you get (at least that's what I get) it's a more ongoing subtle ambient with a laugh from time to time. You made me think about it!! :P
by staff you mean a possibly past-her-prime writer who is so out-of-touch with her fanbase and own characters that she insists on ending the show the way she should have ended it 10 years ago completely disregarding the fact that there was another final season after she was booted out but refuses to watch on the grounds that she wasn't part of said final season? Then yes.
But yeah I watched all four and it just with my partner we both believe that Amy made a big mistake in trying to ignore the final season. Yes it wasn't well liked but the events happened. Logan and Rory shouldn't have even been a thing in this new stuff. Just really bad things like that.
Honestly, the Netflix revival was pretty bad. I still watched it and laughed at the references of the original show, but it relied too much on the source material instead of providing a new story for us to enjoy. Rory's (Gillie) personality was endearing and entertaining when she was a teenager and even a college student, but it stops being enjoyable once you realized after all this time she hasn't grown at all. Same goes for pretty much every character of the show maybe with the exception of Lorelai's mom who's forced to grow out of her wife roll and into her own person. That being said, if there's a sequel of it (because to top this mess, it ends in a somewhat cliffhanger), I'll definitely be watching.
I like how, he got almost everything wrong in the first few minutes xD Alexis Bledel who plays Rory, Lorelias daughter (not Gillie, who' Lorelais sister) said when she got the script for s4 she flipped! She said, she built this character, and the shows writers destroyed Rory, by being a side chick, dropping out of college, being spoiled etc.
I love the original series but the remake was painful, really painful. I'd recommend watching a bit of the original and seeing if it catches you. Cause the witty dialogue is actually witty and funny in the original while the dialogue in this was... forced and like it was trying to mimic the original dialogue and failing badly. I really, really don't understand the hype/adoration around the reboot cause it's really bad and doesn't really have a plot. Mainly cause everything was very nicely finished when the show ended.
IsThatEtchas It was off. But when you think about it, the lead writers tend to only do the significant, turning-point episodes.. the filler is what makes it work. This was GG sans filler, with a bad attempt at filler with the play. In order to get the ending, this was the price. I enjoyed it for the context of what it was.
I don't think you need to like a character. But there's a difference between framing a narrative around a character where you're meant to root for them to succeed and find them likeable and framing a narrative around a character that's an asshole. The narrative treats Rory like she deserves whatever job, school, relationship, friendship etc that she wants, it pushes her as likeable, but she's not. That's the issue. Even when she truly deserves to fail because she didn't even try, the narrative pushes a "relatable/feel bad for her" vibe and that isn't deserved. I love unlikable characters but Rory is accidentally unlikable, they didn't mean to make her a terrible person. And the narrative still treats her like the sun shines out her ass and that she does deserve whatever she wants.
This. Women centered shows get way more flak for being shallow and indulgent than the male counterparts. We all know GG is unrealistic and priviledged, we just wanna watch someone eat junk food all day and still be pretty and have hot guys pine for her because it's wish fulfillment.
Gilmore girls is my favorite series ever ever ever. With being said, if I was in your shoes, and saw that episode withou any back story I would feel the same. And actually, you right about some of the things you said about the characters, even if you got every name wrong except for lorelai aahah Ps. The Emily thing was a bit harsh, it was a terrible thing that happened and the actor actually died
I would think the same as him if I had only watched the revival. I was frustrated too with the way Rory acted and how kinda cliché she became. But the show's totally different from when it first started.
The only thing that you said which I thought was unfair was in regards to Emily. You came off as thought her having money means she shouldn't feel any pain or deserve any empathy for having lost her husband of over forty years.
I was gonna point that out myself, but from what I can see this show probably doesn't have the capacity to be that deep and real anyway. Also Heather just because he glossed over or misrepresented one tiny thing doesn't make him an idiot.
Eden Gallagher 👏👏 yes! You can't judge a show from a revival that takes place 10 years after the original show concluded. The original series has a whole lot more character and really shows the development and the great side to the characters in the series, which this revival sorely lacks, trying to fit a years worth of a show with all the hype surrounding it, into four episodes. idk if any of that made sense but basically you can't judge the revival. the actors haven't touched these characters for nearly ten years, they can't be perfect.
Emily was the only character in this revival that have a plot going on. Was so cute see her finding confort in the maid and her family, like fixing something inside her that was broke for years and made her fire all that other women
The original series is actually pretty good. I’ve watched the entire thing twice and I love it. The revival series isn’t the best and I think it was probably made just for the sake of it. There wasn’t really and real need for it.
The sad thing this was all good fun years ago. A witty single teen mother/daughter duo basically growing up together, dealing with family drama and romance and school and work and romance and familiy drama.... But by the end of the series, drama was getting over the top. Characters became static... or unlikable, because they didn't grow or change. Quirky became neurotic and self-sabotaging narcissism. Except... for one saving thing... Rory and Logan were growing up in what was the only stable, mature relationship of the show... up until she was hesitant to get engaged while trying to establish her career. Season 7 rushed to wrap up the series, but didn't have time for any real, proper resolution concerning relationships. Luke and Lorelei pulled a Ross/Rachel and got together at the LAST possible moment as if a fudge ton of snowflakes hadn't ever come between them and Rory was still in love with Logan, despite being optimistic about her career. Well the revival gave us an opportunity to see what those relationships would look like down the road... how was the career that Rory chose over Logan? Non-existent. Her character development that she had with Logan? Gone for both of them. Although not entirely OOC, it was certainly a regressed version of her character (and Logan's). What about Lorelei? Still self-centered which is apparently okay with Luke because she deigns to live with him. Still an emotional wreck who is completely unable to communicate any of the good intentions in her heart until she has a few mental break downs and decides to go on a hike then get married to fix it all. What about Luke? Still nervous that Lorelei will run? And... did he do anything else? DUDE. And did they ever get married and have kids like the show always said Lorelai and Luke wanted? Not really. Their lives have been complete disasters. And none of this made their journey any BETTER. It just made it MORE confusing and messed up. Especially since it didn't fix any of the old problems they had with the characters and just added more. I mean, maybe that's life to some extent... but I also think most people learn and grow. But I do like the snappy repartee and the town of Stars Hollow. Some of the gags were just problematic though. Like Paul.
ifonlyclanax33 season 7 sucked because they got rid of the writer/creator of the show. The witty banter that Rory and Lorelei usually have disappeared and the show lost its charm 😒
TheVintageCamera I'd agree with you except she was heavily involved in the revival and I personally feel like it was a big failure and she made them worse off than the series finale did. I get that she wanted her original ending to be a "full circle" kind of thing, but 9 years later that's just a little ridiculous and it seemed like she couldn't adapt these characters to having some kind of evolution in that time period.
Haha this was funny, my husband's comments exactly. But this is not the "first" episode/chapter of the show. It's a 7 season show and was shot about 10 years after the series ended. So you should do another video about the actual "first" episode. Would loove to hear your comments on that. :)
This is so funny! You can kind of only get the revival if you're an old fan. You're right, it's about as "pointless" as our own first-world lives. Putting on Gilmore Girls is a little like catching up with an old friend, a funny, quirky, emotional old friend who will tell you about her real life and warm your heart as you think of the good old days. But if she's not your friend...you don't care.
I love Gilmore Girls. That being said, I agree with his points. Lorelai and Rory were so much more likeable in the original series but when I watched the Netflix revival, I wanted to shake them!
I really don't like the revival, it's not a good representation of the show, but the coffeemaker thing he said made me slightly very mad because of all the stuff was really hoping on with Sookie there
The original series is like this too. I never watched it when i was a kid and so missed the boat. Tried to watch it as an adult and it was like banging my head against a brick wall. I guess it was one of those nostalgic shows you had to watch way back in the day to get and like
Lol this was hilarious, and honestly I don't blame you for thinking any of these things. As someone who was a true fan of the original seasons (seriously I've seen them all like 6 times), this "revival" sucked. All the characters were turned into terrible people. I'm surprised they even got Alexis to come back and play Rory. If I read the revivals script and saw what they did to a character that I played for 7 years like that I'd be heartbroken. None of the plot lines were interesting what so ever except for some of the things with Emily. The humour was off beat and felt forced, it didn't have the same tone as the original series. And don't even get me started on that musical bullshit, like for real, what was that. The ending with the final four words was bullshit and Amy Sherman Palladio should have had more respect for her fans than that. This revival was bullshit and I think we should all just pretend it never happened To be honest
I couldn't believe how much they brushed over the fact she repeatedly cheated on her boyfriend with an engaged person. That's not what good people do, poor Paul
Stephanie Eckl I know... within the first 5 seconds we are introduced to him the joke of "who's Paul?" Was already over done. I thought they'd make that it last for just one episode but no they did it for all 4 like wtf. Rory just became a piece of shit LMAO
This was so funny. I don't know why i'm into Gilmore Girls. You're absolutely right. The main characters are self important jerks and nothing is relatable. But in the beginning it brought me a fluffy comfy feeling of prettiness and love (when Gillie was first dating and I was about to start dating) and since then it's sort of been like crack.
Even the worst of sequels usually have some sort of subtle hints to help clue in new people. Having a ton of references that add no plot points or anything for a full minute just for that "reference haha" moment is not good writing especially when half your audience can't get that "reference haha" moment _because they didn't watch the original because of bad writing._
Dated a girl once who adored this show. Asked me to watch it, and I did; watched every single episode and the entire Netflix thing, too. For having seen just one episode of the revival, I gotta admit I'm impressed with how much you actually get correct. My feelings were the exact same most of the time: Both Lorelai and Rory are incredibly inconsiderate and not at all likeable.
I think they’re unlikable at times, but not all the time. I mean, correct me if I’m wrong but most of us can be unlikable sometimes throughout life. So I just think it makes it a bit more realistic.
You make many valid points. I still enjoyed it for the sake of nostalgia, which is what they were counting on since it wasn't nearly as good as the original (which was only good from the perspective of my teenaged self).
The first few seasons are actually pretty good, the characters are all round and the acting is good, it's cute and funny but not boring. It's not too in your face and it makes you feel warm inside...
During the TV show, you watch they live, and in the end of the series, you see how experiences can shape people’s minds. You’ll see the results in the revival
Just wanna say you shouldn't judge the original series by the revival. The OS is amazing and the revival was actually pretty tough to watch at times (and I'm saying this as an avid fan of the show)
Well, the show wrapped up originally without the series creators. Their contracts weren't renewed, and they weren't allowed to participate in anything.
I thought I was the only one who felt this way!!!!!!!!!! The OS is beyond amazing. The revival was like watching GG but in a nightmare, with bad broadway bits and horrid horrid writing/etc etc.
I really don't feel like it holds up. I used to like the original when I was younger and would randomly watch it when it was on TV. I tried to watch it again recently when I found out it was on netflix, and I just couldn't stand it. It felt like some amateur with a shitty webcomic was forcing a million unfunny jokes a minute.
Okay like I understand a lot of your points here, I was a major fan of the original show so I think maybe I get more about the way the characters work and some jokes that had in the revival were for long time fans of the show but just because Emily has money and a 'mansion' doesn't mean that losing the love of her life and husband of over 40 years isn't difficult and doesn't flip her entire world upside down. No matter who you are and where you come from it's still just as devastating.
Most of your points were fair, seeing as you've never watched the show. But I don't understand why you would call Emily mourning her husbands death a "first world problem".
I love Gilmore girls and i love the fact that every character came back but the revival was awfull. By the end I hated Rory and Lorelai. The only hing i wanted that, for me would save the show, was that Rory and Jess get back together because after this 4 episode he seems the only one who coul bring back my Rory !
I'm in the demographic of this show, and I love it, and I wasn't laughing either most of the time. Gilmore girls is not a comedy, nor a sitcom. It's okay not to laugh
Then what is it? Background noise? A static placeholder to suppress your thoughts and feelings with meaningless dribble? Is it on par with the Fast and Furious movies? Just a bunch of eye candy to distract the masses? Are women attracted to shallow wittiness and pretend problems? I don't understand.
My girlfriend watches this show and it was something we "could do together" I saw the entire season couldn't tell you one detail about anything about the show.
I respect your views on this and as an old Gilmore Girl fan myself I hated the revival. Its really not the thing I would recommend new viewers to watch. More to see it from the beginning seasons showing a sweet fast talking young mother with her booksmart kid going through the hurdles of growing up and everyday life with relationship to family and friends and work and school. And they happen to live in a small town with quirky characters and the grandparents/parents are wealthy wich Lorelai has struggles with and doesn't want to be a part of their way of life. Its a series of mother-daughter love and sociopolitical struggles. Sprinkled with pop cultural references. And yes they are not perfect. Lorelai has a messy love life and childish tendencies towards her parents. And Rory is considered perfect and able to conquer the world with her intellegence. But other than that its a really good and heartwarming series. Maybe it mostly relatable for women. But I know men who loves it too. And the revival was utter crap. I can see why anyone would turn against it.
kamileishon I totally agree I wish they never did the revival it ruined the jokes.Im obsessed with the original show like I could recite some episodes 🤭
You know what's sad? That we live in a world where a guy can't put out a video like this without the comments overflowing with people who feel personally attacked because someone just criticised some TV show they happen to like. Despite assurances of "I don't mind if you like it, but it's just not for me". Despite the video at no point taking aim at the people who enjoy this sort of stuff, but only the show itself. Have we really become so empty and shallow that our sense of self-worth can not survive such criticism on a product, whose creation we didn't even play any part in? Have we become so programmed by the mass media that we seek identity not by the things we do, but the things we consume?
This is amazing. Yes. I’ve never heard a more accurate description of this series. My friend made we watch it, because she loved it. I’ve never felt such pressure to relate to such entitled, waspy, self-absorbed, unappreciative, too well off for their level of accomplishment characters since I accidentally attended a posh summer school one year as a teen.
Its supposed to be about inter-generational mother - daughter conflict between 3 generations in a family. The mother is viewed as a failure by the grand mother because she rebelled and had a daughter out of wedlock at a young age (to escape her affluent upbringing). The mother in turn views the grand mother as a failure because her wealth and snobbery isolates her. The grand daughter is often a pawn caught somewhere in between these women. More mature than her own mom who uses her to re-capture lost youth through being more of a friend than mother. The Grand Mother fears history repeating itself and gives the grand daughter a taste of wealth through gifts and private schooling to negate her mother's influence - and often just to to spit in her eye.
dothedeed What you described is very true in the original series. Especially seasons 1-3. However this 'sequel' is rather dumb and I wish they had never made it because it makes the original show look bad.
I used to love this show when I was younger, but this is accurate. Watching the reunion made me realize how arrogant and selfish Rory & Lorelei are. Not only in the new episodes but how they would act like the world only revolves around them.
It was really sad to watch Rory (Also known as Gilly LOL) just be drained of any substance or purpose. I mean season 1 she started out a sweet, likeable, and RELATABLE high schooler who wanted to go to Harvard. You know, her family have a bit of a money problem, they eat lots of takeout, but through all the struggles, they keep it light. Well, all that quickly changes when Jess moves to town and she quickly falls for him, kissing and flirting with him as she's still dating Dean. Then, there's the entire Logan debacle that completely turned her into a rude, un-relatable, rich snob who thinks their life is super hard, and just expects everything to be handed to them.
I wish this hadn't been your first experience with the show. Not to say you would've all-out loved the original but speaking as someone who did, I still hated the revival. It shone a terrible light on all characters but especially Rory (known to you as Gillie, which, LOL). So glad you called her out on that plot about Paul. Man was that cruel af. And also those stupid scenes where Lorelai kept firing chefs for the dumbest reasons (the coffee machine being moved was the worst, yes). And yes, the show has no plot but in the original series that was never a problem. The revival, on the other hand, was torture to get through. All in all, I agree, it was pretty much first world problems. This revival had too much budget and didn't care about real life at all. Like, maybe talking to a person and asking them to marry you instead of their fiancee instead of crying about how much you love this guy who will clearly be with you if you just ask. Ugh.
I wouldn't be so harsh about the Netflix Series because I think it improved in the 3rd and 4th episodes. However, having seen a lot of the original series but now trying to view it through the eyes of a "newcomer" to Gilmore Girls, I can totally understand that especially in the first episode, you have to dislike Lorelai and Rory. How did Rory became an utter, self-centered asshole? How did Lorelai become a self-pitying bitch? That totally bugged me, too.
Rory and Lorelai have been that way for most of their adult lives. It probably just became more obvious in the new series because it's been a decade and they're mostly the same. Rory especially is the worst because she seemed to be so motivated and have such potential at the end of season 7, only to be making poor decision after poor decision forever more.. *Sigh*
I don't really know what point you're arguing here? For seven seasons I loved Lorelai and mostly tolerated Rory. Then this revival came along and I had trouble liking or being entertained by Lorelai and could barely stand Rory on my screen without heaving. To assume that my reaction to them completely changed because they stayed the same is kind of an illogical line of thinking, wouldn't you agree? The revival was bad on a variety of levels but absolutely terrible on its character work on the two leads and that's why the revival ultimately flopped in fandom opinion.
Exactly. Rory failed to grow as a character and it was annoying. Logan and his buddies never grew up either. And Luke really is the only one adulting haha. All in all, I kind of wish I could forget most of the new series and try to remember back fondly on that small town charm...
Haha, this was a spot on review of the Netflix episodes! The episodes were too long and they had a difficult time sustaining a plot. I loved the way Lorelai speaks, but I will admit it fit the character more when she was in her early 30s, and feels childish when she's pushing 50.
you’re watching this without context or reason. it’s like going to a high school reunion where you don’t know anyone and have no nostalgia for this “school”
A couple of the problems pointed out here are problems I saw in the OS too (though the OS was certainly better.) GG is a show I desperately want to love because of the setting and the down-to-earth simpleness vibe, but a couple things keep me from truly enjoying it.
How is it that it's cold enough to need a hat and scarf yet simultaneously warm enough that you don't need to button your jacket? Seriously, it's a weird thing to note, but every single person in the clips is outdoors in the snow and has an open jacket. Things like that get to me.
That's such bullshit. The pilot episode of a show is meant to be a hook, it's what determines if there will even be more than one episode. It's meant to make people interested enough to continue, and 45 minutes is *plenty* of time to accomplish that. This is less "A show I watch because it's good" and more "A show I watch to fill the void in my head".
I disagree, a lot of my favorite shows started off weird or slow. Have you seen the pilot to House M.D? It has a completely different feel. Bojack Horseman, one of my favorite series has a slow start that fails to even hint at the tone it takes later down the line. Rick and Morty's first episode is easily one of their worsts, I'm not even sure it's written by the same crew because it skips all the witty dialogue. I'm not saying all good shows suffer from this, but I don't think watching one single episode is giving an entire series a fair shot.
I think it is totally reasonable to watch a single episode and judge the rest of the series on it's merits. It's an effective acid test. If the episode is bad, it shows you the crappiest parts of the show, and let's you weigh whether further time investment is worth it, because it could be that everything is better from there, or it could be that everything is worse. When a person says, "Oh but it gets better," It means it got better for them. That information is really only useful if you know the person saying it, and you can guess why it got better for them based on their past preferences. I think most people who know what they like become aware when they won't like something pretty early into it.
To me the only part worth watching was Dean's last scene. He's happy and has a growing family and finally got away from Rory the brat and made something of himself. The rest bored me.
Okay, that was hilarious. I am an avid Gilmore Girls fan and I have to say that you are pretty accurate about the new series because it was a let down but the old series is much better; it still has that nonsense content but makes you laugh more and while carrying a plot
But isn't the point of a new series a way to make new fans? It sounds to me like only hardcore fans would watch it, which would be the kiss of death for most shows. This is no way of gaining new casual fans.
Velvet and Vibranium I think the original writer was just itching to have her original ending. EVERY main plot led up to the last four words. It was terrible.
Okay, the Wi-Fi password joke actually works and part of why it does is that it gets repeated. The dude hates his customers and is fucking with them - at least that’s my interpretation of this distilled interpretation of the joke
I think the point of the reboot was to show how the characters changed after so many years, and they changed for the worse. I think we arent supposed to sympathise with them at all.
I'm a fan of the series, but still think your criticism is spot on. The problem with "A year..." is that it is pure fanservice by nostalgia, so much that it didn't leave much room for something really new - like Paul who had to go to instead parade all of Rorys (Gils) exes. And yes, the main characters turned out to be surprisingly unlikeable. Lorely firing the cook(s) was the same as her mother firing her help every episode, which was originally part of making her, basically the antagonist of the original show, unlikable. But even than you could spot how much they are actually alike. And Rory (Gils) turning out the way she did was actually quite a nice curveball for all those for whom she was a role model early on. Why she was it out of the scope of this comment though.
Avery M it was good until around season 4, then it went totally down hill because rory just became entitled because she raised as the “perfect” person and the whole town praised her. Even when she got arrested for a felony, she had people pay her way out and dropped out of college because one person told her she couldn’t do something (because it was probably the first time)
