yes fr, like princess can mean pampered. not as bad as brat but still it depends on the tone you’re using and all that. just like any other term, it can easily become an insuly
No Tam & Adam Polly call Ariah that & Ariah's caught up & invested in all of those movies like she said. That's just not a conversation Tam wants to have right now I guess. All's I'm saying is be real about it. That's the show's name for God's sake!!!
The term "princess" can be a term of endearment (in relation to a disney princess) BUT can be also use condescendingly (spoiled/entitled). I have no clue as to how none of the girls were understanding what Jeannie was trying to say.
Nicole Estella TV Jeannie gave the most international and diverse perspective. Lol they literally were talking about Disney Australia and then everyone except Jeannie gave the typical American perspective about our princesses.
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 well for people that are not American that doesn't make sense... Lol 🙈. Like I don't see how princess is in any way derogatory n why it should be a topic. In the same way saying u r beautiful is positive another person can say it in a sarcastic way to mean u think u r all that. But does it mean it's worth discussing if they should change the meaning? I still don't think all that was necessary
Nicole Estella TV I’m just saying it’s other views then just Americans. And this is an American talk show discussing the Australian view on a word. So yeah Jeannie was the only one giving a different cultural point of view.
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 am American talk show discussing the Australian view of the word where 3 Americans disagreed n one Asian American agreed. I get it...
Just noticing, though most in the The Real video's comments are females, every time I find a comment on The Real videos that make me laugh, it's from a guy. Intriguing.
That's exactly what I thought. I figured that the word is probably used differently in Australia where they're running the campaign.... And the ladies at the table are having a hard time discussing it because that's not how the word is often used over here in America😂 It made for an awkward discussion because they didn't have the full story
Yeah but come on!!! Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!! This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!! Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!! I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!! Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
Can this ladies actually HEAR Jeannie?! She actually understands.... i was always called little princess because i was privileged because it seemed like my dad gave me everything but i was always accountable for my actions, worked hard on my things but people thought i was given everything and didn’t really worked.
Everything today is an issue for everyone! Princess is an endearment and there’s nothing offensive with it, stop looking for problems where there aren’t any.
Yeh that made me a little upset. Jeannie was trying to make an example form Cinderella being a servant and Tamera said “Moana wasn’t a servant” and Jeanie never got to finish
@@britbritnicole9211 no...jeannie is right. Sometimes people do be like "okay princess" to girls if they ask for something that the other person thinks is high end or too extreme or too demanding for their liking. It does exist. But they didn't wanna acknowledge it like Jeannie was saying
About the princess thing, I wanted them to really get into Jeanie’s perspective. And I get it. Princesses exist beyond Disney and have before the popularity of Disney princesses. “Bratty” connotations of royalty such as remarks like “yes your highness🙄” when a woman is being “demanding”, DO exist. When “princess” is said, it depends on the context and tone in which it’s said that makes it sexist or not. I think that’s where Jeanie was getting at. However, Disney changed the way princesses were looked at and put them into a positive light which is GREAT. Now when we think of princesses we think of those influential women. I think the parents who are complaining should just adopt Disney’s interpretation of a princess.
Yeah but it shouldn't!!! I hate now how the meaning of it is being taken over by a very negative connotation and I can't stand those righteous pompous feminists who want to distroy and actual beautiful positive word really!! I'm just so sick and tired of it!!!
Lol my birth name is Princess so I find this discussion weird... things are really not that deep. Let me just drop a lil light for some of you in the comments who want to make jokes... My heritage is Nigerian and in Nigerian context ‘Princess’ is associated with royalty, respect, power, strength, beauty and is one of the highest honour you could give to someone. I also live in England and I’ve only ever heard polite comments about my name. I come from very humble beginnings and it’s reminded me during difficult times that I Am Strength + all the other beautiful things my name carries. I guess Some Americans just think differently 🤷🏾♀️
Any word can have a negative connotation people...somebody using the word “sweetie” can say it in a shady way or truly from a good place ...imma need y’all to act like y’all know lol
Exactly. We will have to throw the entire dictionary away at this rate. If we use the word correctly, there is no discussion. We are starting to sound so uneducated.
I hate how nowadays society craps on anything feminine. Nothing wrong with princess. I understand it's important to teach children (especially little girls) about being independent and that they can do things for themselves. But, what's wrong with promoting balance? It's okay to be feminine, caring, gentle, etc. There isn't ONLY value in being masculine, strong, leading, etc. Then Disney princesses are strong in a unconventional way....there is strength in their feminine energy. Feminism is about equality, saying being masculine and feminine are both important and equal. Not that everyone should be masculine and femininity is weak. I hate that narrative.
Seriously everyone wants to be exactly the same nothing wrong with be feminine or masculine if you wanna be a girl and be feminine that’s fine and if you wanna be a man and be masculine then fine everything don’t gotta be all the same
Thank youuuu Mimi!! I sooo agree!! It shouldn't!!! It shouldn't be such a negative toxic word!! And adults should be able to be called that without it being toxic or patronising!! What is wrong with being feminine!? I so agree with you about the Ballance!!! I hate now how the meaning of it is being taken over by a very negative connotation and I can't stand those righteous pompous feminists who want to distroy and actual beautiful positive word really!! I'm just so sick and tired of it!!! If my man calls me his princess I melt!! I feel so good in it!! And it makes me feel even more feminine and lived!! Honestly I'm exhausted that people are trying to trumple this word into such a negative shi*ty connotation!!
Cutting Jeannie off as usual. It is used in two ways. A positive way when it's a younger girl and used to call her adorable, cute, pretty, whatever. And a negative way with an adult woman when she's entitled, bratty, rude, high maintenance, spoiled, snobby or when a woman brings up legitimate issues and others dismiss them with "ok princess".
Yeah but come on!!! Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!! This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!! Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!! I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!! Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
Jeannie gets it, it deffo has negative connotations. I think Disney mean they want to reclaim the term from how at times it is used in a sarcastic way. When someone acts entitled you might say they are acting like a princess to suggest they are being spoilt similar to the phrase 'she thinks she is royalty' . Ofcourse mothers talking to their daughters will use it positively but thats a given.
But I think the deeper question that Tamera was trying to get at is....where did that connotation come from? In all the Disney princess movies, the princess weren't entitled or spoilt. They all had great personalities. Disney has done a fair job in portraying princesses in a positive light. I remember Disney princesses being the most sweetest and caring characters. Maybe I'm missing something.
Michelle A. They literally never seen these Disney movies. The main princess in the princess and the frog was a mean spoiled princess. And the stepsisters in Cinderella were not nice but we princess like rather than Cinderella.
@@mimia.4810 im sure the word had connotations prior to disney and its probably disney fairytales where the idea that everygirl could be a little princess stems from in part but thats not universal or old perhaps where as the spoilt precious,entitled little princess trope is
Yeah but come on!!! Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!! This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!! Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!! I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!! Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
Vando Varela ikr like damnnn. I would have to go to uni, get a whole a$$ degree just to get less then a fraction of what these people sit around making. Ahhhh, the fun.
Loni really??!? She's the most sarcastic and slightly bitter of them all! Naaahh hahaha I find Tamera so beautiful in her personality!! Much more positive and beautiful!
JEANNIE IS BEYOND THIS SHOW ;princess in many of the fairytales we watched growing up meant someone who was waiting to saved by prince charming;DAMSEL IN DISTRESS waiting to be saved,who are victims to evil step sisters and witches and are saved by a prince.Disney only modified the narrative because of the feminist movement .There is no way a kid understands that it not reality especially if we dress them up and call them princess.I grew up believing fairytales and silly soaps that are fashioned the same way.Its an unrealistic protrayal of women.
I disagree, I think Disney princesses taught valuable traits. It depends how you look at it. Most, if not all, of the princesses were kind, gentle, loving, and caring. They remained the same despite all of the negatives of society (represented by witches and evil step sisters lol). I think there is something to be said about people,in real life, with those traits. Disney princesses taught a different kind of strength and power....femininity! Too many times, society shames feminine energy and only acknowledges the strength in masculinity. But there is strength in femininity and Disney princesses had that strength. I think that's what Tamera was trying to get at (which is a fair point) I don't think Jeannie is "beyond" this show.
i feel like Disney princess have come a long especially when you look at the older princess vs the recent princesses but even the older ones have positive things about them
Ladies you all have a point. I rediscovered my kindness and gentleness because it seemed like a weakness for long time, some people look and talk about you like you're an alien but then others are comfoted by it so, so for me it took time to embrace it again and keep it despite cruelty of others. Also, this prince thing coming and saving me, I was completely unaware but yeah subconciously I did expect it despite my mom warrning me when I was a girl that it's not rational. I just tought she was anoying and a pessimist 😂
Temara and Adrienne try to make everything about them and their lives, in a talk show u need to understand other perceptions and ideas, so self centered, let Jeannie and Loni talk more
SERIOUSLY, ALL YOU CAN SAY ABOUT TIANA IS SHE'S ADVENTUROUS??? UGH, all the white ones they have great details and she's just adventurous? Anyone can be that.
They could of said "Tiana was a hard working young women who work really hard and saved her money because she wanted to accomplished her dream and her family's and become a business owner ..she never was discouraged by anyone...like Tiana was a really strong women ..one of the best princess out there !
@@averyjohnson7600 If you're still in college or university it's ok. When you're done and you have to strike out and make your life then its gonna be on you and no one else. I think he's just a good dad and you should appreciate everything you have and how your family got it for you.
I understand why some people find “Princess” sexist. At one of my jobs, my coworker got promoted to manager and whenever she would tell the employees what to do they’d groan and say “yes princess” or “here comes the princess again” which made her seem like she was bossy or too controlling just for doing her job! Yes Disney has done a great job showing princesses in a positive life but in REAL LIFE, aside from children when has being called a princess been a good thing? I think I agree that we need to change the definition of what a princess it. It’s happening slowly though
Natasha Exactly it has definitely been used in a condescending way in the real world especially in the workplace. It was really annoying that they were dismissing Jeannie’s point.
I’ve never associated Princess with spoiled. I’ve always seen it as a compliment. I think of Disney princesses and there’s good qualities associated with them 🤷🏾♀️
Hmm. I haven't heard that term used in a long while. I guess it depends on the context. Nothing is wrong with the word though. As long as it is used respectfully.
The word "princess" it can go many directions and it just depends on how people say it or representing it as. When I think of the word princess as a child it's like oh I'm special in a good way. As a adult I think of it in Disney princess way which is confident, kind, hardworking, adventurous and independent. Like there's a quote from a Barbie movie called Princess Charm School and the character Blaire/Princess Sophia say "There's a princess in every girl " I love that quote so much. So don't think of the word princess in a bad way because it can be in a good way too.
God thank u someone who finally gets it. The whole conversation was just pointless.😴 Since when did the word princess become sexist. Some father and mothers call there baby girl princess. 😒
I’m a guy and one of my guy friends used to call me “princess” as both a derogatory term and a term of endearment. I’m gay. And also at the time I was so nice/noble to EVERYONE that I was sometimes naive as to people’s ill intentions. I took forever to get ready because I always HAD to look good. And i wasn’t hyper masculine like all all the other (straight) dudes in our friend group. So he called me a princess to make fun off all of those afore mentioned traits and to call me high maintenance. But it was also his term of endearment for me because he was my closest friend in that friend group and he’d literally be my knight in shining armor when I needed help with anything or if someone tried to start something with me (even tho I could easily defend myself. I’m not scared to throw hands). But yeah, that is a perfect example of both the positive and negative connotations that could be inferred when calling someone a princess. I’m really confused as to how none of the other girls picked up on Jeanie’s point. She was spot on.
i didn't know there was a definition like that for the word princess lol i get what Jeannie saying i get what everyone saying but i feel like it's not really a negative thing unless you use it that way
Some do mean it positively, with no ill intention. Being fair, some people DO see it as Jeannie described! Otherwise why would it need to be changed? She's right! Me personally, I just feel like whether they change it or not we need to stop encouraging our children to define and redefine themselves based on fiction and/or the opinion of others. Teach them to see themselves for who they are and receive it based on their true attributes and aspirations. If it don't fit just don't receive it. I'm telling you man we are what we eat!
There were many years I did not have the opportunity to Ride Adult Rides, because of kids, but now my grown Granddaughter say I am a Bomb Grandma on the Roller Coaster! My Grandaughter said Granny I am so proud of you!😂😂
why Tamara keep having Lonnie and her negative energy around her family? especially since she stated she doesn't believe in the "girl code" on the Khloe video. she need to keep that chick at a distance!!!!
"You know that's a life lesson. We all gonna be on rides. You ain't going to INCONVENIENCE all of us because you are a BABY!" HAHA savage. Imagine staring at a wide eyed cute baby and saying "Na-uh. U aint inconvenience us, baby! Not this time..." 🤣
In Australia it's used to call someone out on being a high maintenance brat...they complain about the tiniest things...so in these cases you say "toughen up princess"
These girls are ignorant and I'm so glad Jeannie said something. Being a princess is 'cute' when you're young... a 35 year old being called princess is usually not cute...because by then you're a woman, an adult, and you should be independent...you should upgrade to queen
@@elygonzalez677 that's true..but it is also true that princess can be negative. Idk why the girls seemed so oblivious to that word having that connotation
Cinderella was always a Princess, not only through marriage. Her birth mother (the queen) died of illness and so the father married the step mother who forced her down from her princess status to a maid because of jealousy. She simply got her status back at the end of the movie and she showed what a true “princess” encompassed. Getchyo facts straighhhht ;)
So Jeannie needs to be the other mom on this show. Tamera is too conservative and outdated sometimes. I love hearing a different perspective. But it seems to only be respected on topics like this once you are a mother. So please push this Lor blasian out already mai goodness.
