Giving Martyr Logarius a Reason for his Name in BLOODBORNE 

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I constantly forget that “go up baldy” isn’t a common meme that everyone knows and is actually specific to the drawfee community

as a certified bald individual, i really do appreciate J+J discussing how dumb it is to use bald as an insult. also, that mall sounds absolutely fucking insane and if i somehow ended up there i'd immediately assume i'd stepped beyond the veil

"I was trying not to cheese" my sister in christ parrying is not cheesing it's a game mechanic 😅

Bloodborne boss league table update. We have a new leader and our very first to reach double digits! Martyr Logarius - 10 One Reborn - 9 Shadows of Yharnam - 6 Father Gascoigne - 4 Blood Starved Beast - 3 Rom, The Vacuous Spider - 3 Vicar Amelia - 3 Darkbeast Paarl - 1 Cleric Beast - 0 Witch of Hemwick - 0 Total - 39 Average - 3.9 (Also on the discussion of how many times Julia died to Artorias, the answer is 4)

1:08:45 "Murders the shit out of that woman [...] not in a normal way." That describes about half of Bloodborne but yet is still so fitting.

Ok, lore time. In this stream, Julia explores the forsaken Castle Cainhurst. The nobles of Cainhurst stole forbidden blood from the Healing Church and became the Vilebloods (essentially vampires, though this isn’t fully explained). The Vilebloods were enemies of the Church, so a group of hunters aptly named the Executioners attacked Cainhurst and slaughtered everyone they could find, which is why it’s full of ghosts. They could not, however, kill the immortal Queen Annalise, so the Executioner Logarius hid her behind an illusion and parked himself in front of it.

I’m the one who said “no one cares” at the end, and let me explain… I hate to see Julia weigh her success on outside feedback, I just want her to feel awesome about kicking ass! But it sounded a bit harsh in hindsight. We think you’re great Julia! Whatever you do, and no matter how many attempts it takes you, you are so fun to watch.

A fun note about the localization: They're only called "One Third of Umbilical Cord" in the American version. In other versions, it's just "Third Umbilical Cord". Some speculate that they're actually intended to be whole umbilical cords, from the fourth generation of Great Ones (the third generation after the first). Also, there are four of them in the game, and any three will work, so it can't be 3/3 of the same cord.

I mean the whole answer to "what's the deal with making fun of people who are bald" is 100% the deal is toxic enforcement of deeply ingrained standards of masculinity/virility (and yes it sucks)

"I learned the terms for medieval architecture stuff but I lost them. Haven't you ever lost anything? Your purse? Your car keys? Well, it's rather like that: Now you have it and now you don't!"

Please, do not ever change that crown. Lem was born to wear it.

I just bit the bullet and shaved my head due to hairloss and y'all starting the stream by calling out the bald jokes really hit ✊😭thanks guys. had to sit through every person at work making a joke and it felt insane that it was just... kosher to be mean to me for something about my appearance I couldn't change? absolutely insane behavior

As someone with trichtillomania (hair pulling), even though my head hair is fully recovered, i rlly appreciate the calling out bald insults for an added reason- for some of us, baldness (or i my case bald spots) are the result of physical or mental illness

Jacob's "enter into a new challenge with a comedic level of confidence instead of going in thinking you're going to fail" is, for people like me, actually great advice. I deal with a lot of my insecurities with humor, and I've found that if I'm "in on the joke", being jokingly confident can lead to just being *actually* confident and kind to myself.

Honestly, mad props to our closed captions writer, especially throughout the kombucha-cmuboocha-kuhmbucha bit

I was washing my face during the Logarius win in the original stream so I wasn't looking at the screen, but I just kept hearing parry noise after parry noise and was like. oh yeah she's got his ass now lmfao

I'm a mathematician and coach who has spent a lot of my life studying how we learn, the nature of things being difficult to get good at, and games in general, and Julia is really impressive when it comes to skill level and patience with these games.

I’m ~young~ and balding. It’s honestly a lot less chill than people make it out to be. The common experience people have is light hearted jokes about balding, but actually being young and balding is a wildly different game. You stand out from all your peers. The more you work around it the more you feel like you’re hiding something, so even if you weren’t embarrassed or bothered you start to feel shame. Because of common sentiment, it very much will come up in dating. Hell. Drawfee has made jokes about it. They didn’t mean any harm and it wasn’t taken that way, but it would be nice at some point if we didn’t

Raising Canes: So one of my friends said no sauce at a Raising Canes. This is a mistake. Cane's chicken tenders are NOT good on their own. They are barely salted, barely spiced, but extremely breaded. It's a great texture with almost no flavor. They are meant to be perfect vehicles for Cane Sauce. Get the Cane Sauce, you fools! Thank you for listening to my TED Talk.

1:23:40 - This is really important, and I'm so glad Jacob said it! The focus on small things in particular. When your brain is not cooperating, everything feels Too Big, so focusing on little victories is a STELLAR way to build confidence!

yammers, hump into this stream to find cats! 6:17 concerning cat + joy clambers over 7:52 camera corner cat + background cat 9:31 2 cat + olive leaves 10:37 joy leaves 26:26 joy has something to say 27:50 her head rollin 28:25 29:34 joy being affectionate 30:00 joy was being cute + making joy be patient 31:05 she cleanin 32:35 let the cat spirit help you fight 33:10 cat tongue 34:40 joy's gotta go 48:59 olive climbs over 50:28 olive's here + storytime 1:06:40 orb olive 1:16:15 smolive is being windblasted 1:26:44 olive got excited by positive self talk and had to leave 1:29:25 she's back + tail vibrates 1:30:13 what a cat 1:35:30 synchronized aww + too cute 1:45:23 checking on flat olive 1:48:50 leggies out 1:56:58 very cute stretch from comfy cat 2:00:05 background joy + twitchin olive trustin j^2 2:01:11 joy leaves olive alone + more on olive’s trust 2:03:37 problematic joy makes olive long 2:04:47 joy doing her meows 2:05:58 head scritches 2:06:28 pretty cat head empty wants pet + she leaves 2:08:23 joy's making her demands as co-host now 2:12:28 joy's hosting skills + play time w/ wurmpus extra: 1:01:35 my ramen brand recs are indomie and paldo, they always pack a flavor punch

jason and julie are now on my to-rob list and the first thing i'm going for is that princess jellyfish box set

i just went to that mall today …. the entire chilis building indoors is truly a sight to behold

I need Jacob to know how much I appreciate the positive self talk spiel. I am a licensed counselor who works with college students and that was absolutely so beautiful I wanted to cry. I've been a fan of yours for several years, thank you so much for everything you do. ❤

Jacob dropping some cognitive behavioural therapy

I think someone should animate that positive self talk part whilst Julia was fighting The One Reborn. It was incredible to watch Julia defeat a boss she was struggling on whilst talking positively :)

im a transmasc individual on T and i say all the time how excited to be bald i am/excited abt my hairline receeding etc. it started as a joke to preempt my weird feelings about hair loss but now im actively excited to see how my body changes that way :)

Love that the run where Jacob did this huge speech on mental health and appreciating your successes and believing in yourself, was the one Julia beat The One Reborn on. It worked!

All hail King Lem the Sour.

Note the constantly recurring theme of pregnancy and birth and all associated things. Everything is about clotted blood and unbilical cords and things being born and reborn.

Julia is so good at the game that using an intentional strategy feels like cheesing to her…

Jacob is a true king. That mental health advice was exactly what I needed to hear

I like to think Ghibli Miyazaki is the Evil One because he’s battling his dark side for so long. Souls Miyazaki is the Silly One

I've been looking up Bloodborne lore as I watch these and I think it's utterly unfair that the Vilebloods don't get more story. I know that the game is about the Great Ones and breaking the illusions but I want more Vilebloods!!! tell me more about these vampires, From Software!!!!!!!!!

I was going to say Jacob with the loose hair looks like he'd be in Coldplay circa 2008

Everyone's old pal Marty Logarius

Useless historical fact: Julius Caesar was frequently mocked by his political rivals for being bald. Apparently, when he was awarded the honor of getting to wear a crown of laurels, he wore it whenever possible to cover up his bald spot.

I think that Mall you fpund was a verified Liminal Space left over from the 90s

Jacob is giving 80s heartthrob and I am here for it

Jacob don't lie to me you know when you listen back to the first time you said kombucha you put some extra stank on the KOM

I had the same experience at that mall. I just needed some work clothes and had just moved to the area, spent the entire day wandering around and buying random things. When I was there they had a store where everything was $8 and the fashion was amazingly gaudy

the subtitles on these vods are soooo so good, thank you

My cat lives in between my windows in the summer, she is a non-newtonian liquid and I would have to remove 3 panes for her to not to do it, so I "let" her. I don't know about Joy though

It’s SO funny to hear them talk about the palisades mall because I grew up going there and I can picture every thing they’re talking about- I knew as soon as they said ropes course lmaoo it’s wild how normal all of that was to me

title goes hard

1:30:11 the music scared the ever loving christ out of me here bc it sounded like a Tornado siren starting up 😭😭😭

Just gonna timestamp the mental health talk at 1:20:21 for myself, because I genuinely needed to hear that, thanks Jacob

surprised joy at 6:55 I love her

i hope that next time you guys pass through north jersey, you stop by the american dream mall. it's got like 3 theme parks, a full garden, a museum, etc. it's so wild

I absolutely love the Julia souls experience bc its always a deep dive into her mind, I find it very interesting

It's always interesting to see how different people struggle or excel at different bosses. I personally have always gotten through the one reborn really quickly, but Father Gascoin is always an early game brick wall for me.

It's been so long since i've been to any mall other than the mall of america that this mall sounds completely normal to me

1:12:00 Julia talking about how she's got it back, while effortlessly dodging blood and bullets without even really trying.

That is an insane steal of a manga sale!! Never seen that before from all the places w manga I’ve browsed!! Lucky find!

My dad was on the construction crew for the Pallisades Center, weird to hear them talk about lol

42:04 As someone whose brain also “works stupid”, I can relate to this heavily.

I know when Julia's about to beat a boss because it's ALWAYS the moment I'm distracted doing something else

Soooo to throw my two cents in about the Kombucha. I pretty sure they were talking about how Jacob emphasized the COME in Kombucha very hard lol, he pronounced it correctly just put heavy emphasis on the tee-hee word.

The goal posts talk is something I love to hear as a person with chronic fatigue. I got into that mindset around 2020ish with all the depression and shit, but it’s done wonders to help with my acceptance of my disabilities. And I’ve been able to help spread that love with my dad who’s health and disabilities have certainly hit a rough patch the last few years. I’m glad such fantastic advice is being shared and spread like this. And as someone who (via religious trauma) believed themselves to be worth absolute dirt and than any form of confidence was being disrespecting to god. And I finally accepted that that isn’t ok. And that jokey over confidence did wonders for my self esteem. I don’t think I’ll ever stop. Even when it isn’t goal oriented, being exaggerating about your confidence builds that confidence

Here's a little tip I picked up from watching speedruns: if you buy armor sets in the upper fountain with insight you can then sell them for free blechoes, in order to buy other armor sets or what have you.

raising canes is my guilty pleasure... it's really only guilty because it's ungodly expensive LOL

I love this Playthrough Julia is doing awesome maybe she'll pary a really tough enemy and get their legendary weapon by both of the falling off the cliff like last time. But seriously she is doing awesome!

44:00 is exactly how i feel about this sort of game and its SO SO relieving to hear from someone else, always think im like going insane when i try to explain it

omgjfc JULIER YOU CAN DO IT idk if she did it I'm not watching live but I am frickin STOKED WOOOOOOOOOOO

I know it was followed up by a joke about headless ghost women to defuse the tension, but Jacob saying "You're allowed to just say you feel a way, with no explanation" (43:19) really hit me. I also try to explain everything and have a hard time articulating my feelings and reasons for them, so that was really nice, wholesome, and important to hear.

My first play through I think I struggled with Martyr Logarius most out of every boss in the base game. Some of the DLC stuff I had a harder time with but he demolished me for a while, and I came here way later than Julia.

Re 46:00 discussion of best weapon - I feel like bloodborne just proves how good Julia is at these games since the weapons aren't really better than each other and she is still wiping everything out just So Fast.

As a folicly challenged individual, I appreciate the opening rhetoric.

I'm not 100% sure but i believe you can resurrect the Queen of the Vilebloods after Alfred bonks her. So if you want to see Alfred with his mighty weapon and helmet i think you can do so just for the content.

pre-stream chat on this one was great and I definitely didn't absolutely own someone with a very good joke 😇😇

The whole positive mental health talk while fighting The One Reborn was so cool and really resonated with me. I also got so excited when Julia beat the boss right after. I'm so glad to have role models like you guys, like actual adults doing cool stuff and being silly but also heartfelt when needed. Being an adult like Jacob and Julia (and kinda all of Drawfee) is what I strive for in life now, as a person who never even expected to make it to twenty (I'm 21 now). In short, thanks for all you guys do and keep up the good work!

I’ve never wanted to go to a mall so badly

This mall story is like the opposite of the Willy Wonka experience

I always love how muppetey the worm carls are

I really wanted to support Julia's budding career as a teacher of life skills by watching the Finance class when it came out!! But I shouldn't engage with money advice for my mental health, so I did not. :/ It's not that I'm not interested! I majored in Economics and I love learning! But I'm disabled, and therefore legally obligated to remain in poverty to continue to "deserve" my health insurance, and it's just a whole mess. Love you guys, you're real bright spots in the tedium of waiting months at a time for underpaid people several states away to get around to my pile of paperwork out of, like, literally hundreds of thousands, just to deny me again in a reverse-ageism situation, because obviously, people under 70 can't be disabled! Right? :P

The raising canes in manhattan had a live DJ when I went in there...

At the beginning of the final fight with grandpa I felt the win coming and full screened. What an amazing win tho Julia just had to do what comes naturally to her: parrying

That mall you found sounds like a lot of the malls here in the Philippines ✨

"i am an only child today" - joy and olive sometimes

bloodborne is one of my all-time favourite games, and watching Julia grind her way through it is thoroughly entertaining

Carnegie Mellon students have their own way of saying kombucha?

As someone who also has naturally thick, choppy/wavy hair, I feel Jacob's pain with hair growing out rather than down and how the sides get so out of control.

for my own reference and anyone else who wants to rewatch jacob and julia’s very good mental health convo here’s the time stamp for when it starts:) 1:18:40 ends around here 1:27:11

I swear to god Jacob made up one or two of those fast food places. I refuse to believe those are all real

That mall is just what every semi-successful mall feels like now. If it’s not 90% boarded up stores, it’s got the ropes course, go kart, motion simulators, and weird novelty versions of chain restaurants. Destiny USA in syracuse also has a wonderworks which looks like a museum crashed into the roof of the building and everything in it is upside down

As a bald person, i agree with Jacob about the perks. You wouldn't believe how much money I saved on hair care products until I grew out my beard

Anytime I am saying good bye to someone I believe I will never see again I always say 'May you find your worth in the waking world'

life is like a hurricane, here with dog birds.

Julia's string of viscerals was so damn _satisfying_

This was the first SSS stream I caught live on Twitch and I got to see the TOR victory and BOY was it hype! GREAT stream, yall!

Macaroni Grill still exists, there are just a lot fewer of them now

I feel Julia's pain. I had a harder time with Martyr Logarius than with Orphan of Kos. Something about fighting on the uneven roof vs a flat surface kept throwing me off.

1:21:21 genuinely really good advice! Thanks Jacob!

Congratulations to Jacob for being smart and normal.

i think if Hayao and Hidetaka Miyazaki fought, Hidetaka would just let himself be killed. The guy is a masochist.

Martyr? I hardly know her!

Thank you Jacob for the positive self talk. I needed that today

That positive self-talk discussion was just what I needed today.

1:20:24 jacobs advice for low self confidence (loved it! Real good read)