GM Gen 5 LT vs Ford Coyote. Which one is better and why. 

Gas motors aren't going anywhere

The 6.2 can be taken to 7.0. and while still sohc, it has massive semi-hemi valve angles, and dual spark plugs allowing for a shit load of fuel and air to be burned..

Or buy the 7.3L godzilla engine they have now. Not a oversized coyote but they share ford's modular whatever thingy.

One last Hoo-Rah, the return of “The Cammer”

Ford did make the 427 SOHC Cammer V8 and let me tell you its the most baddest engine on the planet.

Wish more people had this mindset. I own a mustang but love the LS/LT platform and one of my dream projects is an LS Swapped 77/78 trans am and my dream car is a C7 Z06 Corvette.

@@MrRangersfan123 It’s sacrilegious to put a Chevy engine into a Pontiac. Why not a Pontiac 455 big block?

@@travelinman482 because a modern LS/LT is smaller then a big block chev/Pontiac, more efficient, can make more power and has far greater transmission options to boot. You get the best of both worlds when doing a swap like that in a hot rod. This all coming from a die hard Ford Guy. I'm toying with the idea of actually doing a 7.3 swap in my Fairlane as the aftermarket grows for that engine.

@@rexmilanista Liked your comments. Now, are you talking about more [stock] transmission options? Cause there’s several companies that make aftermarket transmissions for engine swaps, etc. Also, you can make any BB engine build some serious horsepower and most importantly, torque. Dr. Olds used to build some bad ass 455ci engines in his heyday! There’s already a 7.3L Godzilla engine on RU-vid that’s pushing over 1,000 hp.

@J Jones Blue 400…? Ford powertrain?

u can thank GM for the 10spd transmission but stock still 12.6s -13.6s not so impressive and that engine comes with 4 cams so is way more expensive to mod than the LT or LS

​@@xxtriss-lt6Thank GM for what? The 10 speed is all Fords design.Its the 9 speed that came from that joint venture that was used in GM vehicles.

@@jimmillet1442 k

@@xxtriss-lt6 the mustang is by far the most cheap vehicle to mod. what are you even saying. It has by far the most aftermarket support too. Hate if you want but dont lie man.

@@eliteghost0001 tell me u don’t know shit about cars without telling me

It's the joy of getting to drive all maker's designs that makes it so much fun to switch manufacturers every few years when a new version comes out. Getting old ain't bad, since I can now afford a new car every few years. That house I bought in 1977 for $40K and sold for $625K turned out to be a good investment, when I moved to a retirement home that only cost us $50K.

@D.E.B. B must've been nice buying houses in that kind of market. I bought my first place at $325k in 2017, bought a second in 2019 for $488k, and a third last year for $460k. If I were building my investment in your market, I would probably be over a dozen houses in the same length of time. But that was a different time, back before our government destroyed our way of life.

It really does not though. In fact, It does not reach peak torque till about 5krpm. It is the opposite actually. It will still tow, and make a lot of power, but it can’t compare in power to the 3.5 EB, or a diesel in low end torque.

@@calebniederhofer6529 It's not the size of the block which determines when the torque comes on the cam.

Exactly.

They are obsolete. Compare with new engine in model s

@@CHMichael Tesla? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@CHMichael you mean battery?

@@CHMichael your stupidity isn't needed here.

there is a combo of parts between all 3 gens called the 3 2 1 combo and it makes a beast engine

Nah, the LS and LT engines are better...

Yup

When I see a voodoo or coyote with 300k miles and still runs strong we'll talk. Until then I'll go with an LS.

@@smokepeddler I have both Ford and Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 , Ford F-150 FX4 5.4 . every time I have to work on that Ford . absolutely kick myself in the ass .. everytime I get to work on my Silverado ! I'm like hell yes more power what can I do today ! the only thing I will do to that F-150 is a tune . my 97 Z28 LT1 was actually easier to work on then this ford... I'm with you , but even if my Chevy doesn't make 300,000 miles I can still rebuild it easier ! And have fun doing it..

@@banette36 Agreed. my 99 1500 Silverado is so Easy to work on. Everything is accessible and easy to reach. I had a 97 f150 and you had to remove 10 things to replace anything. Both good trucks though.

100% was the best comparison I've seen yet! They all make great motors these days that's for sure.

Since u own all three i wanted ro ask, how much diffrent feeling is the low end torque in the coyote compared to ls?

Coyote is a better motor

@@MegaMma4life would you like to enlighten the rest of us with facts?

@@stephenhodge6441 its a smaller displacements motor that pushes more hp per cubic inch. It revs higher and has a broader power ban. While both motors perform well the coyote is a better motor. Doesn't need 6 liters to produce 1xxx hp. I also personally think the ls motors are superior to the lt tech. I know some of the ls heads flow way better. Now each motor has its short comings but I would chose the coyote everyday over a lt and a ls. The modular motor lineup of Ford even there 5.4 dohc 5.2 dohc 5.8 dohc motors you can push 800 plus wheel with a pd blower and have power from idle to redlibe. Yes you can fo the dame with a lt. Comes down to power per cub fords motors are superior

Niether one, what is there dfi 2 stroke v8 option for 2022?

Lol. This is like elementary 😆 WOW you are easily amused. This is common knowledge bro

@Brian Stafford cause the 2 piece plugs. Im a Ford guy and the 5.4 of that yr is junk

@Brian Stafford the 5.4 isnt half the engine a mod 302 for that matter.

😆 this comment wreaks of clueless

Gotta appreciate the how GM got the pushrod down to a science.......... Coyote guy

Can’t forget the forced induced version of the voodoo, the predator. Pretty damn amazing for the size of it…. LS guy as well.

This comment section makes me happy.

with out a doubt it's one of the best thought out engine platforms ever to be produced .........Hemi Guy

People cant grasp that GM has copied ford for a while now. They are doing so to try to catch up to the fords hp per ci since ford has always our powered GM engines per ci

The guys that most often say that are the guys that swear by the Ecoboost engines.

@@karlschauff7989 Could be I suppose, the eco really cranks out the power, but the only thing it can’t pass is a gas station…Lol

@@powderriver2424 I love towing with my 5.0l, now that being said I wouldn't say it's a good engine for towing. It's doesn't make alot of bottom end grunt especially on regular fuel. The coyote loves premium, empty most won't notice a difference in power except I get a 1.3mpg average better fuel mileage. Now towing, especially on a hot day, premium really helps the mid range power. But unlike the Chevy v8s the coyote pulls strong all the way till the transmissions shifts, making the gears have a longer usable power band. A stock Chevy V8 truck engine seems to run strong up to 3800 rpm and then kinda falls flat, its still pulling strong, it just doesn't gain much after that.

Mostly are EcoBoost owners that bashes on the Coyote V8 and calls it 5.Slow Slowoyote.

I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 140,000 miles and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust. For me I prefer the Coyote V8 over the EcoBoost V6 anyday of the week because I don't deal with turbos breaking because its NA and it sounds wayyyyyyy better as well.

@rross27 we all know the answer... LS

All he did was take all the stats, that you, honestly could have read yourself and made a video.

@rross27 those are all some really cool builds you have had. Personally, I've had both the new LT1 in a 17 Camaro SS. And currently have a 19 Z06 with the LT4. Love both in their own way. The LT1 was a manual with 455/455 in it and she would rip and loved to be "beat" on. LT4 is the same, but you have to be careful as the car is super expensive and the engine is ridiculously more powerful than anything I have ever had. Probably going to get another ZL1 or Z28 in 26 for the last year of the gen 6, Vette will be paid for by then and more of a "show" car. Keeping her stock. Hope you can get your hands on either one in the near future, you will not be disappointed!

@@Hey_Blinkin the coyote is a different monster, it doesn't slap you in the face as much, but it's just insane how it just keeps pulling, and pulling, and pulling, yanno the LS motor might make peak around 4500-6k, meanwhile we're revving to 9 and making more power the whole way there. Completely different, but I prefer the coyote, and fyi if you want a really torquey coyote you can put a cam ground for torque in, like off the f150, and all of a sudden I can't tell much of a difference, but it's much easier to put aggressive cams stock in a DOHC motor so that's why the performance version get such aggressive cams from stock.

@rross27 I had a ‘96 Z28 and the old LT1 got a bad rap due to people using junk optisparks but it was a hell of an engine in its day. It held its ground until the LS1 showed up to take over. It didn’t take much work to get some great results with it.

lol

LT4 and LT5 are the best motors on the planet

@Frank Bonazza III If you can find a LT4 or LT5 in a junkyard grab it.

@Frank Bonazza III you gotta be a ford fan .

@Frank Bonazza III Naw, junkyard trolls love all the Coyote blocks with warped cylinders and grenaded oil pumps.

Coyote Mustang drives past my house daily, sounds fantastic. I had a 02 LS1 w/ headers that sounded like a boat. A fast boat.

I'm a chevy guy but a Ford v8 sounds so much better. Had a few old school 5.0 ho fox bodies, shorty headers, h pipe and Flowmasters sounded amazing . The coyote sounds fantastic as well. I do prefer the low-end grunt of the ls

Yeah when they come apart at 8k rpms on the race track it sounds WILD! the bad part is how long it takes to clean up the mess... dang voodoos

Thanks! Will do!

Bang for your buck, exactly. You can get into Fords 5.2's and 5.4 liters. That's more of a fair fight against GM's LSX.

I've had an '83 Firebird, '85 Bandit II & an '87 GTA, all great cars

I had a Chevy K30 dually truck with the 350 in it. 3spd auto and 4.10 gears. It got about 7-8mpg. Once I swapped a 12 valve Cummins and a 5 spd in it, I had 230hp, 605ft lbs of torque and get 25 MPG. And that truck has the aerodynamics of a giant brick spinning 6 tires and 2 axles.

FWIW, I also have a Gen 1 5.3L LT in my 2000 GMC Sierra, it’s also a FANTASTIC engine! 211k miles and still purrs like a kitty!

The LT motors are a ticking time-bomb.

@@Lupine. its all preference. with the 4 coyotes I've rebuilt at school I could say the same for them lol.

@@BIGEDSIK28 The LTs are throwing rods and having constant injector issues within 30-40k miles.

Retaining the bore spacing from the 91 mod motor has been Ford's original sin. It's the handicap that keeps on handicapping.

@@taylorc2542 "slappy is sloppy when the service comes due" is what an old hotrod guy told me as a kid.

Clown cars and I'll have a few things to do with my Big SEXY HEMI pal.

Agreed I have both LS and coyote.

On the new gen 4, they went back to 302. They had to make a thicker plasma sprayed lining, making a smaller bore, for durability.

Gm junk period wait

Because exotics have flat cams. It’s better for racing and performance idk why people say the corvette is trying to copy the voodoo engine when if anything it’s copying all European cars

Exactly. It looks like the Y block but they also took cues from the Ford Windsor with 10 bolts on the heads and no longer using siamese exhaust ports as the SBC did. The LS looks like the combination of two Ford designs put together. I like both the Coyote and the LS. Go USA.

@@almodequindre8601 Amen to that brother.

@John Stone Yes it did. There are a lot of similarities with the Ford Windsor and with a little machining you can make an LS head fit on a Windsor block. They all take ideas from each other.

@John Stone Well copy and paste into your YT search and enjoy . 351LS Part 6

Lol, having a similar head spacing is not taking something from Ford. Ugh, that was debunked 23 years ago.

@NATHAN ENLOE It would probably be another 300 lbs if it were that big. 😅

@@TheWolfMatt Exactly, so the argument is pointless.

Plus the coyote parts are more expensive good motor tho

@@bryancaballero8113 It's been the one good engine that Ford has put together in more than a few years. Took them long enough.

@@TheWolfMatt too bad gm had to copy a Ford design to make a good engine.

You shouldn't approve.. the FORD GODZILLA 2 valve pushrod is far more appropriate comparison.. AND Ford will get the cube advantage FOR ONCE..

@@onyxphantom6762 Not even close to most expensive

Most expensive to date yes

Got that tuned out the minute I drove it off the lot. Not a big issue if addressed.

I am gm fanboy, but like mentioned in the video, I am fairly unbiased as I respect all American car manufacturers. Imo GM and Chrysler didn't wanna do a cylinder deactivation system.. let's rewind to 2005-6 when the epa was cracking down on big honking displacement engines. Ford went in the way with downsized turbo 4/6 bangers to please the epa. However GM and Chrysler wanted to keep giving the people what they want, the people still wanted ohv V8 engines but the epa wouldn't have it, so D.O.D later changed to AFM for gm and Chryslers MDS systems was designed to please epa standards, that's why gm and Chryslers included these systems in their cars and trucks. Even though it's a terrible system for reliability, they still made it extremely easy to do a physical delete, since they can't do it from the factory floor, they can sell you the parts and information to be able to do so

Eh simple tune out and it's lifter's which is another easy change.

@@anthonycosta1776 How big of an impact does tuning it out make? I got a '20 SS manual so it doesnt have it from factory but from what ive read on different pages, getting it tuned out or having the manual doesnt really save you from the lifters failing.

@@Hamillie_ the lifters seem like you could change em in the driveway 🤷.. They make a dod delete kit for your SS as well.

OHC engines are technically older tech than pushrod. Don't perpetuate the myth.

You gonna bore and stroke it to a 427?

Kudos brother! I cant stand all shit talk these electric car geeks talk about how good for the enviorment they are. Well in 50 years provided we havent whipped ourselves out with something! Id love to se them trying to rid the enviorment of batteries and acid & other crap in them ect,ect! Bye,bye water supply! Hello poisoned food. Hail to the combustion engines💪✌

@@mikeymike4329 honestly this, alternative fuels made using nuclear power are the real right track, put our motors on propane/CNG, alcoholic fuels, hydrogen, etc. We can still have them and make amazing power with them, but at the same time be FAR cleaner, and then there's hydrogen fuel cell cars, you can rebuild their parts when they eventually crap out at quite low cost, they have a very small battery, and they put out water, great for you everyday Joe who only goes a to b, meanwhile when a tesla goes out of warranty they all but force you to junk it for a new one, can't crush them though because then you let all the nasty battery stuff out and ruin equipment and possibly kill people. But no we gotta support Chinese lithium production that probably creates more pollution in a year than all the cars made from 1990-2000 that are still on the road have in the last 3, including those with removed emissions equipment.

I dont know there is something to be said for an electric car and going 0-60 in 2 seconds, thats gotta be fun even if it is mostly silent. You can ALWAYS be the first one off the light no matter what pulls up next to you!

@@AutoGuild *laughs in big tire*

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Thank you sir for making awesome built American power. Please thank your Dad for me too?

My lambo sounds the same with corsa exhaust. 😏

@@elchido3517 let me borrow the lambo this weekend

Bullshit. The LT head flows *better* than the Coyote, with less than half the overall mass, and parts. You really fail to grasp the fundamentals of turbochargers if you think an S480 is going to make more power on a 5 litre engine, than it is on a 6.2 litre engine. Especially when the LT head flows *better* than the Coyote, and sports 60-80 more cubic inches of displacement. You need to binge a little of Richard Holdners channel, you could learn a thing or two...

@@jamesgeorge4874 you sound like you havent seen how well the coyote performs lol

@@jamesgeorge4874 8:43 disproves your agrument.

Nothing flows better than the coyote heads

@@jamesgeorge4874 Richart Holner has just demonstrated that a 4v i6 Atlas engine demolishes the 2v when the turbo boost is turned up. Physics mate, 4v = more flow. This is why all supercars have an engine design like the Coyote, ie, 4V DOHC VVT

The other great thing about the 18+ coyote is that you actually have double the fuel system after a retune, so you can supercharge/turbo them to a higher level without worrying about fuel.

Stay with the 351. 😀

I have this set up in my 67 cougar thanks

I love a Windsor. They are my favorite engines. But as far as new engine swaps go. It might eventually be more ideal to do a 7.3 swap over a coyote. You at least wouldn't have to cut out your shock towers.

@@lloydlehr3473 a 427 us 7 litters:)

@@lloydlehr3473 a 427 us 7 litters:)

Well said!

Nice to finally see a Ford guy understand what this whole argument is about. The coyote is a great engine but the LS just makes more sense for everyday guys on a budget,not to mention size constraints.

@@saltydog7988 Tho the budget and size constraints are heavily exaggerated by some Chevy guys to prove the LS is better for builds. Mod for mod the Ford actually beats the Chevy most of the time in power increase especially boost. It's a little more complicated in size and budget yes, but in the end it will be closer than people like to admit since the Ford doesn't require new parts or to completely build the engine, the OEM parts take massive abuse so you end up not spending money on those at all.

@@raionshishi8290 I hate to disagree,but it’s not the Chevy guys propagating this story. Tell me how many Chevy guys are swapping in a Ford engine vs Ford guys swapping in a Chevy motor? Not too many is my guess. As to the “Chevy just copied Ford” camp…do you really not think if Ford engineers knew what they had designed would they would not have developed it? And if so,what does that say about their engineers? Simple fact is GM engineers unconstrained run circles around Ford engineers. BTW…the magnetorheological shocks that let your Mustangs halfway keep up with Camaro’s? Thank GM for those. Y’all whine incessantly about displacement…5.0 vs 5.3/6.0/6.2. Two different schools of thought…but when GM decides to go for the added complexity of DOHC they’ll wipe the floor with your vaunted “Cowdoodie”. BTW…what’s with Ford and these stupid nicknames? Juvenile. You should be happy GM has stayed with cam in block. Gives you at least SOME room to crow. Dollar for dollar your engine still doesn’t compete with an LS,much less an LT engine. When’s the last time ANY Ford won a racing championship? The sixties or seventies? NHRA…nope. Indy car…nope. Daytona…nope. NASCAR…maybe once in the last 20 years. Shows me what OHC is good for. But do tell me how superior Ford is. The only real claim Ford has is when a goofy Texan named Shelby hot rodded their pathetic product did they stood out. Other than that…nada. And had the powers that presided over GM at the time not reigned Zora Arkus Duntov in…you would not even have LeMans in your pocket. So please do tell me how Ford is God when it comes to engines.

​@saltydog7988 Maybe don't be broke? This isn't about what engine is better for those who are poor its about which one is better period, and the Coyote is better. Far more potential, far more efficient. They love boost and revs. Not sure what there isn't to like about the coyote.

Pushrod engines are cheaper to make

@@slowgoat6089 and fix

And up grade

Yeah, its doing wonders for them in NASCAR

@@Archer441 True and it's a trip that nascar basically uses the LS platform for all the nascar cars.

Love my Windsor.

Cleveland!